Cadillac CTS-V - Guesses on Dyno results
cbloveday
04-05-2011, 05:38 PM
Any idea what she will dyno? Engine has 750 breakin miles on her and plan to dyno tune saturday. I will have around 1000 miles on her by then.
Mods are in my sig. :nod:
Looking for guesses without the NOS.
JJSimon904
04-05-2011, 07:05 PM
enough make us all want a V2...final answer
GulfM3
04-05-2011, 07:56 PM
Stock blower internals, as in it's still a 1900 correct? I'll guess 675.
cbloveday
04-05-2011, 08:50 PM
Yes still a 1900. I made 707 rwhp on the LSA without nos before I yanked it out for this motor. I hope to do better than 675.
Still I can run alot of nos through this without worry. I ran a 35 nos pill through ths LSA when I hit used NOS.
itsslow98
04-05-2011, 09:37 PM
Itll make a lot, but please stop calling it nos, its nitrous.
Blakt Out
04-05-2011, 09:51 PM
Itll make a lot, but please stop calling it nos, its nitrous.
It's nitrous unless he's using that specific brand. Kinda like asking for a Kleenex and getting that actual brand. Never know.
But yeah...:hijack:
I'm guessing 735. I've built engines before only to gain reliability and peace of mind. Plus, I think we innately guess low so we aren't stupid.
itsslow98
04-05-2011, 10:08 PM
even if his system is made by NOS, its still nitrous oxide systems.
cbloveday
04-05-2011, 10:13 PM
The system is made by nitrous outlet. Sorry rookie mistake :bang:
Blakt Out
04-05-2011, 10:14 PM
even if his system is made by NOS, its still nitrous oxide systems.
Word. I don't call it "Nos". No way. Makes me feel like I'm trying to be Vin Diesel or something. It is a bit gay. Or a few bits gay, even. Just drinkin' beer and typin'. Gotta say, I agree with you, man.
JJSimon904
04-05-2011, 11:03 PM
Naawwwzzzzzzz!
93SlowBird
04-05-2011, 11:08 PM
~725.
wcryan
04-06-2011, 11:18 AM
740...
GulfM3
04-06-2011, 02:30 PM
Yes still a 1900. I made 707 rwhp on the LSA without nos before I yanked it out for this motor. I hope to do better than 675.
Still I can run alot of nos through this without worry. I ran a 35 nos pill through ths LSA when I hit used NOS.
707 is very impressive! I guessed 675 thinking your blower would be maxing out.
Watch your intake air temps to see how close your 1900 to its max efficiency.
Or slap a 2300 on there and shoot for 9's with 900hp :D
cbloveday
04-06-2011, 02:37 PM
Best I got last year with the LSA and 1900 was
10.38 @ 134.36 with a 1.497 60 ft. This was with a 35 nitrous pill.
I know of another V2 who has gotten into the 9s with a forged LSA, 1900, & a 200 shot.
I believe he ran a 9.855 @ 139.70, so it can be done.
For how long, I do not know. That is why I went to this setup.
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DrSpeed
04-06-2011, 03:43 PM
even if his system is made by NOS, its still nitrous oxide systems.
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_HVRI3srPSSw/SeUQysvlIPI/AAAAAAAABQA/8F-6uJaSQbw/s400/X69Oj3.jpg
cbloveday
04-10-2011, 05:19 AM
Tuning tonight. Will post up with baseline rwhp.
cbloveday
04-10-2011, 11:49 PM
Just walked in the door. I left at 6:30 am this morning. Very Long Day. Jesse of WAIT4MEPERFORMANCE was a champ as usual.
The day was anything but usual. Got to the shop and Jesse immediately installed a TB plate capable of 200 shot.
The plummed super charger had not arrived and upon discussing the application with Jesse, we agreed that running the plate first would be best.
He believes the 1900 probably couldn't handle much more than 200 if that.
He thought wheel spin would be an issue with more than a 200 shot and he was absolutely correct.
The base line dyno was approximately 725rwhp with only 8.5 lbs of boost. I say approximately because we ran several runs and got bad wheel spin on the dyno.
We originally thought the tranny was slipping but eventually decided to do a run with nitrous and 3 people in the trunk. I was the smallest of the 3 @ 225lbs. It was almost comical. Even with the junk in the trunk, it was hard to get a clean run. You could smell rubber and see smoke off the tires. I should have brought my VHT. LOL
Eventually, we were able to do a relatively clean run with 150 shot of nitrous
Max RWHP 870
Max torque 804
Max Boost 9.9
A/F 11.5 to 11.4
The blower is limiting us from more boost and more power.
The plugs looked great, as they were checked in between runs. We used the NGK tr6. I capitulated to Jesse on using non projected plugs. His point was proven by having them installed and I got codes and rough idle during breakin.
Anyway, this is work in progress and this year should be fun sorting out the additional 300 ftlbs of torque at the track.
Below is the dyno from the run. I will search through the thread to see who gets the cam.
http://i183.photobucket.com/albums/x99/cbloveday_bucket/dyno410.jpg
cbloveday
04-10-2011, 11:55 PM
Just walked in the door. I left at 6:30 am this morning. Very Long Day. Jesse of WAIT4MEPERFORMANCE was a champ as usual.
The day was anything but usual. Got to the shop and Jesse immediately installed a TB plate capable of 200 shot.
The plummed super charger had not arrived and upon discussing the application with Jesse, we agreed that running the plate first would be best.
He believes the 1900 probably couldn't handle much more than 200 if that.
He thought wheel spin would be an issue with more than a 200 shot and he was absolutely correct.
The base line dyno was approximately 725rwhp with only 8.5 lbs of boost. I say approximately because we ran several runs and got bad wheel spin on the dyno.
We originally thought the tranny was slipping but eventually decided to do a run with nitrous and 3 people in the trunk. I was the smallest of the 3 @ 225lbs. It was almost comical. Even with the junk in the trunk, it was hard to get a clean run. You could smell rubber and see smoke off the tires. I should have brought my VHT. LOL
Eventually, we were able to do a relatively clean run with 150 shot of nitrous
Max RWHP 870
Max torque 804
Max Boost 9.9
A/F 11.5 to 11.4
The blower is limiting us from more boost and more power.
The plugs looked great, as they were checked in between runs. We used the NGK tr6. I capitulated to Jesse on using non projected plugs. His point was proven by having them installed and I got codes and rough idle during breakin.
Anyway, this is work in progress and this year should be fun sorting out the additional 300 ftlbs of torque at the track.
Below is the dyno from the run.
http://i183.photobucket.com/albums/x99/cbloveday_bucket/dyno410.jpg
JJSimon904
04-11-2011, 12:20 AM
Holy crap, 870 with the 1900 is impressive..even with nitrous! You guys searching for 1000hp with the new blower setup?
cbloveday
04-11-2011, 07:32 AM
Holy crap, 870 with the 1900 is impressive..even with nitrous! You guys searching for 1000hp with the new blower setup?
The 1,000 hp is really obtainable. It was 80 degrees on the dyno.
I'll have some fun this year. No plans for blower upgrade at the moment.
My wife wants me to settle down a little with mods.
She is doing our taxes as we speak. :(
See what happens. Tranny probably won't last long and will be rebuilt when that happens.