Pontiac G8 2008-2010 - Tune only g8gt vs new 5.0 with exhaust! Youll b supprised!

Ok Ive got a couple videos for proof that GM/pontiac produced a badd azz family ride!!! That new 5.0 thats supp to be so badddd wasnt so baddd! I expected him to just walk away and put a half mile on me but we ran to bout 125 and he may have 4 or 5 lengths on me. Now keep in mind he has 4.10 gears and a man tranny! A simple gear change in the G8 and it would be alot diff!!! Im wrkn on vidds!

Ok try em n lemme know what yall think!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LHqw9fIq8qk&feature=youtube_gdata_player

Heres the next one.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y74k7SB2bsg&feature=youtube_gdata_player

Keep in mind how badd a stick shift car will pull a auto on topend! If we would have went from a dead stop as ur supp to do he never would of caught me!! Till wayyyyy fast anyway!

Lance, the G8GT is an awesome car.

But take it from someone who has owned both cars, they are not close.

The new 5.0 is in a different league.

Lance, the G8GT is an awesome car.

But take it from someone who has owned both cars, they are not close.

The new 5.0 is in a different league.

Ok I wont spoil ur fun just cause you own one. I just think its pretty rediculous! You dont have to tell me how close they are or arent cause I saw it! We raced prolly 5 times and the one longest video that I posted was the most he outran me! Give me some gears and Ill be all up in his leauge! I just find it pretty amusing!

Lance, the G8GT is an awesome car.

But take it from someone who has owned both cars, they are not close.

The new 5.0 is in a different league.

^^ +1 ^^

Kids....what are you going to do with'em ???? :bang:

Ok I wont spoil ur fun just cause you own one. I just think its pretty rediculous! You dont have to tell me how close they are or arent cause I saw it! We raced prolly 5 times and the one longest video that I posted was the most he outran me! Give me some gears and Ill be all up in his leauge! I just find it pretty amusing!


That guy just can't drive.........and you can't base a comparison off
one experience.

Look at George's sig.....He had the fastest bolton G8. Now look at his sig
again his Stanger time is faster with a tune only.

The cars aren't even close. I can admit that and
I own a 478rwhp G8.

That guy just can't drive.........and you can't base a comparison off
one experience.

Look at George's sig.....He had the fastest bolton G8. Now look at his sig
again his Stanger time is faster with a tune only.

The cars aren't even close. I can admit that and
I own a 478rwhp G8.

DRUGS beat me for that title. He went 12.13 to my 12.16

With longtubes, high flow cats, Xpipe, stall converter, CAI, Tune, front runners, and ET Streets. I also had an underdrive pulley.

Which was kinda my point, because to get my 5.0 auto to run the same times I needed: a tune.

That's it. I could, and did, run 12.teens with OEM tires. With drag radials, I easily beat those times. In worse air.

G8's are heavy, Mustangs are lighter... not rocket science. Takes more power in a G8 to run with the same power Mustang. Especially with the Mustangs better gear ratios and higher revving engine. Personally I haven't had any problem beating them in my family car.

Its not hard to beat a G8... there are tons of cars that can beat them. Hell my Subaru beats 99% of G8's and its not awe inspiring, beats most Mustangs too and its my wife's daily. Its always funny to see people get beat by a chic in a ricer!

For the OP - for sure get headers and gears along with a retune and you'll be happy with it for a little while longer!

Do you want to tell him that its going to cost him a $grand to do a gear swap, or should I?

Do you want to tell him that its going to cost him a $grand to do a gear swap, or should I?

Depends on which way he wants to go... to swap to a Camaro rear then sure it will cost about $1000-1100. Gears alone are available now for under $500, if he knows how or knows someone who can install them then it'll be a bit cheaper. But works out about the same if he pays a shop to do it.

Personally I think the Camaro rear is the better option unless your gonna jump straight to a 9"! The driveshaft and axles will still be looming worries with the Camaro rear if your going to race the car a bit.

Lots of slightly used rears starting to popup on eBay now for much less, couple guys in our group have got them well under $1,000, some for half that.

Then there's the peg leg burnouts....And that's even with the camaro diff.

Then there's the peg leg burnouts....And that's even with the camaro diff.

True, but I dont have to worry about that anymore with a spool! :D

11.88 to a 12.16 ohhh yeah thats really a diff leauge! The guy can drive also! Make all the excuses you want. Im not interested in modding the family/wifes/kids/grociery car! Georges 11.88 isnt tune only BTW is it? After street racing a 600rwhp ss m6 for the past 7yrs ,I think I know a badd driver when I see one! Good luck with your 5.0s.

Depends on which way he wants to go... to swap to a Camaro rear then sure it will cost about $1000-1100. Gears alone are available now for under $500, if he knows how or knows someone who can install them then it'll be a bit cheaper. But works out about the same if he pays a shop to do it.

Personally I think the Camaro rear is the better option unless your gonna jump straight to a 9"! The driveshaft and axles will still be looming worries with the Camaro rear if your going to race the car a bit.

Lots of slightly used rears starting to popup on eBay now for much less, couple guys in our group have got them well under $1,000, some for half that.

More often than not, it will wind up costing the average guy $1000 or more to change gears in a G8.

11.88 to a 12.16 ohhh yeah thats really a diff leauge! The guy can drive also! Make all the excuses you want. Im not interested in modding the family/wifes/kids/grociery car! Georges 11.88 isnt tune only BTW is it? After street racing a 600rwhp ss m6 for the past 7yrs ,I think I know a badd driver when I see one! Good luck with your 5.0s.

11.88 @ 118.11, tune and drag radials only. That's it.

DA -1500'

Or do you prefer the 12.19 to 12.09s that I ran with the OEM tires and tune only in air from -600' to +600'?

So yea, 11.88 tune and drag radials only vs. 12.16 and every bolt on there is for the G8.

Different league.

lol sorry kid but you're going to need a lot more than a gear change to keep up with a new 5.0

11.88 to a 12.16 ohhh yeah thats really a diff leauge!

The G8 had full bolt-ons. You're questioning someone who has owned one of each and has no bias?

The bolt on G8's they're talking about are the GT's and not all G8's.

lol sorry kid but you're going to need a lot more than a gear change to keep up with a new 5.0

Lol KID to you cause Im no kid but anyway I could care less what ur track times are or were! We were street racing and went from a roll to avoid tire spin. The mustang cant pull my G8 in first gear or second gear and a little in third then alot in fourth! Thats pitiful! Proof of my statement is in the video. Dont care if youve had five of each it is a muscle car and wont pull the G8 till topend! If you dont know enuff bout street racing to see that then you need to get off the track and spend a little time on the street! Videos dont lie! Every gear was hit and pulled till time to shift no excuses here! 430hp so called rating with 4.10s vs maybe 400 with what 2.92s/3.23s and still didnt pull me Ill stick with GM and never jump ship!

lol sorry kid but you're going to need a lot more than a gear change to keep up with a new 5.0

I got it covered ;)

The mustang definitely needs the driver mod. My G8 has a cam, stall, gears, etc and I recently raced a new 5.0 with intake, full exhaust, and tune. We went several times from a 40 roll to around 140 and I only got him by 2 cars. He had a time slip for 11.9 on street tires. With a good driver you would get owned by a new 5.0

I got it covered ;)

Will a cam only A6 5.0 run a 11.45?

Will a cam only A6 5.0 run a 11.45?

The autos are running good these days :( Going 11s with only a tune and a tire is crazy.

Cam plus what other mods? There are bolt-on a6s running deep 11s without head/cam work but I'd like to see what mods you are considering basic.

Will a cam only A6 5.0 run a 11.45?

I doubt if you can find a cam only A6. There will have to be a tune involved and most likely there will also be at least some sort of cold air intake, and without a doubt a tune.

Lance, most of us are G8 owners, and G8 fans, however most all of us have a great deal of respect for the new 5.0 Mustangs.

Will a cam only A6 5.0 run a 11.45?

Should run faster assuming stall and drs.... Tuned 5.0 makes close to the same HP as my car does and weighs 200-300lbs less..

Will a cam only A6 5.0 run a 11.45?


I ran my 11.88 same day, same track as devilish.

G8's are heavy, Mustangs are lighter... not rocket science. Takes more power in a G8 to run with the same power Mustang. Especially with the Mustangs better gear ratios and higher revving engine. Personally I haven't had any problem beating them in my family car.

Its not hard to beat a G8... there are tons of cars that can beat them. Hell my Subaru beats 99% of G8's and its not awe inspiring, beats most Mustangs too and its my wife's daily. Its always funny to see people get beat by a chic in a ricer!

For the OP - for sure get headers and gears along with a retune and you'll be happy with it for a little while longer!

I know we aren't unbeatable, but I don't know about tons of cars. I don't think we are necessarily easy to beat either.

Damn, some of you sure are ball busters.

Good runs OP. Ive yet to have a 5.0 take the bait and run but its gonna be fun when it happens.

The mustang definitely needs the driver mod. My G8 has a cam, stall, gears, etc and I recently raced a new 5.0 with intake, full exhaust, and tune. We went several times from a 40 roll to around 140 and I only got him by 2 cars. He had a time slip for 11.9 on street tires. With a good driver you would get owned by a new 5.0

Other then not power shifting...I dont see a problem with his driving :eyes:.
But the new stangs are def. badass. Power/weight ratio wins everytime.

Damn, I see some love and some some discontent here. Both are nice cars but both were built for different purposes. I respect both of them!

That 3-4 shift in the last video was horribly long.

What are your mods on the g8?

I've owned both cars as well. My mustang ran stock what my g8 did with LTs,cai and tune. Roll racing both had similar trap speeds so it should be about equal.

The new 5.0 pony is a winner. Ford got it right. I'm a dad, got kids, need four doors and lots of rear seat room. It was the G8 or a 'vette, given the benefits of the G8 I can live with the limitations.

And... Kona Blue is the best color. Period. Sharp looking cars.

fivoh- I have only a tune no other mods!

The newer 5.0 is a murderer!
Hell i bet with a full exhaust, intake, DRs, and a tune you'll hit 10s.

Those new 5.0's are no joke thats for sure, my next door neighbor got one some time ago so I raced him with the G8 GXP and he got me by about half a car, so I took out the vette and raced him he beat me by 2 cars...LOL he sprayed the shit out of me..

I think it's funny that were on a ls site, everyone is defending the new 5.0 and the op still won't let up.

Trust me, were ALL butt hurt over that motor n that car, but a spade is a spade...

I joined this site the day it opened and throughout the years I've noticed that many people on here talk without having a clue. They read something and take it as gospel so they repeat it. I've seen too many members post videos of them beating faster cars only to be chastized by those know it all naysayers. At 48 and with many builds behind me I can honestly say that I can drive and have outdriven my share of so called faster cars. With that said, good runs Lance. Install a few mods and go have some fun racing against the invincible. But most importantly, remember that maybe 30% of what gets passed around here is acurate and worth listening to.


Angel

I joined this site the day it opened and throughout the years I've noticed that many people on here talk without having a clue. They read something and take it as gospel so they repeat it. I've seen too many members post videos of them beating faster cars only to be chastized by those know it all naysayers. At 48 and with many builds behind me I can honestly say that I can drive and have outdriven my share of so called faster cars. With that said, good runs Lance. Install a few mods and go have some fun racing against the invincible. But most importantly, remember that maybe 30% of what gets passed around here is acurate and worth listening to.


Angel

A few of us have owned both cars.

I'd say I have a pretty decent perspective on which car is faster.

Or maybe I'm wrong...

A few of us have owned both cars.

I'd say I have a pretty decent perspective on which car is faster.

Or maybe I'm wrong...

Thats bc your G8 was slow:D

A few of us have owned both cars.

I'd say I have a pretty decent perspective on which car is faster.

Or maybe I'm wrong...

If you have owned a G8 and a new Mustang you are in the minority here. There's no question that the new Mustang is faster, that's obvious, it's just when a slower car has a good run against a faster car, the clueless and naysayers come out of the woodwork to make excuses for the faster car when they should be at the very least be praising the driver of the slower car for hanging in there. The truth is that for the most part the majority of what they say is nothing more than what they've heard someone else say. That's part of the reason that after being on here since 2001, I post very little, although there are times that I can't help myself. I love the new Mustang and I am glad Ford finally got it right. I also smoked one the other day... but I wasn't driving the G8. :)

Angel

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O0Dc_jp4l9o

Good run.

Good run.

That was George.. I keep posting it to mess with him... :D

If you have owned a G8 and a new Mustang you are in the minority here. There's no question that the new Mustang is faster, that's obvious, it's just when a slower car has a good run against a faster car, the clueless and naysayers come out of the woodwork to make excuses for the faster car when they should be at the very least be praising the driver of the slower car for hanging in there. The truth is that for the most part the majority of what they say is nothing more than what they've heard someone else say. That's part of the reason that after being on here since 2001, I post very little, although there are times that I can't help myself. I love the new Mustang and I am glad Ford finally got it right. I also smoked one the other day... but I wasn't driving the G8. :)

Angel

No one is doubting he had a good run but his comments make it sound like
the Stanger is a piece of junk and the G8 is the greatest thing since peanut butter and jelly. Whether its stock vs stock, or equally modded cars, the new Stanger will beat a G8 95% percent of the time.

No one is doubting he had a good run but his comments make it sound like
the Stanger is a piece of junk and the G8 is the greatest thing since peanut butter and jelly. Whether its stock vs stock, or equally modded cars, the new Stanger will beat a G8 95% percent of the time.

I'm certain that everyone including Lance knows this. I guess when they say it's all in the interpretation they mean it. I read it as a man who was excited about having some good runs against a faster car. I give credit where credit is due. It just seems childish that many would rather defend what they wish to believe rather than what actually transpired. Either way good on him.

Angel

BTW, Happy Easter. :D

Thats bc your G8 was slow:D

I put the converter in Saturday night. Ready to give it another go, with your bottle turned off?

;)

PS.
My G8 was fast for what was done to it. There are still only two bolt on-converter G8s that have gone faster. One of them was driven by a girl that I outweighed by at least 150lbs. And she went 12.15 to my 12.16. Hell, even Dave only beat me by .03 and I still insist that if the LSD hadn't died that day, he wouldn't have beaten me.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O0Dc_jp4l9o

Yes, a cammed, geared, convertered G8 on drag radials can beat a 5.0 with just a tune and street tires.

LOL

I should hope so.

;)

NO WAY! My best friends second cousin removed twice from Tubelo has a new 5.0 and there's no way any G8 can beat it! :D:


Angel

I put the converter in Saturday night. Ready to give it another go, with your bottle turned off?

;)

PS.
My G8 was fast for what was done to it. There are still only two bolt on-converter G8s that have gone faster. One of them was driven by a girl that I outweighed by at least 150lbs. And she went 12.15 to my 12.16. Hell, even Dave only beat me by .03 and I still insist that if the LSD hadn't died that day, he wouldn't have beaten me.

I'm all for run what you brung... If you don't bring enough thats your problem not mine lol.... But I'll run a motor lap with only muffler delete

NO WAY! My best friends second cousin removed twice from Tubelo has a new 5.0 and there's no way any G8 can beat it! :D:


Angel

Not once in this thread did I use anyone as example, except for me.

Direct experience.

I wish people could just welcome the new competition from Ford and look forward to GM stepping up their game. They can start by making the Camaro about 300-500 lbs lighter.

I wish people could just welcome the new competition from Ford and look forward to GM stepping up their game. They can start by making the Camaro about 300-500 lbs lighter.

:chug::chug::chug:

Not once in this thread did I use anyone as example, except for me.

Direct experience.

Not about you George. Just poking fun at the general direction this entire site seems to have taken. For those that remember, it resembles LS1.com back in 2001 when we branched off and this site was created. Anyhow all's good and I've had my fun, now I have to go spend money so that I can keep up with the Ford guys, at least with my G8.


Angel

DRUGS beat me for that title. He went 12.13 to my 12.16

With longtubes, high flow cats, Xpipe, stall converter, CAI, Tune, front runners, and ET Streets. I also had an underdrive pulley.

Which was kinda my point, because to get my 5.0 auto to run the same times I needed: a tune.

That's it. I could, and did, run 12.teens with OEM tires. With drag radials, I easily beat those times. In worse air.

and this might have just convinced me

wanted a G8 for a long time - test drove 2 of them just could never pull the trigger on it.

Never thought I would look at a mustang but a tune and drag radials to run 11s - that is stout and more than enough for a fun street car

My shitty bolt-ons only G8 has still yet to lose to a tuned/exhaust Mustang 5.0. Have raced quite a few now.

My shitty bolt-ons only G8 has still yet to lose to a tuned/exhaust Mustang 5.0. Have raced quite a few now.

When would you like to race?

I have headers and a converter installed now...

:D

When would you like to race?

I have headers and a converter installed now...

:D

Ya ya there's always one. Anything can be fast but I gotta vouch for the other guy... most of the 5.0 jockeys in my neck of the woods are gun shy. Can't get 'em to bite on the G8. They should nut up and give it a shot sometime, not all of us are cammed up and ready to go ;)

As long as my "stang goes 11.44, I'll be fine...

As long as my "stang goes 11.44, I'll be fine...

Hopefully faster then that... bolton subarus are running 11's now for $10k cheaper. I'd be pissed if I had over $30k into a domestic and it didnt go 10's.

Hopefully faster then that... bolton subarus are running 11's now for $10k cheaper. I'd be pissed if I had over $30k into a domestic and it didnt go 10's.

I was joking. John's best is an 11.45.

Also, Subari don't interest me and "over $30K" doesn't mean the same to all people.

We've done this before. Someone who buys a current model year new car will have more into their car than someone who buys a used car or a left-over.

Early adopters always pay more...

lol I know I was just stirring the pot...

As long as my "stang goes 11.44, I'll be fine...

When do you think you'll have to start cracking the engine open to get more out of her? You're quick already...

When do you think you'll have to start cracking the engine open to get more out of her? You're quick already...

Not till I get to the 10s...

Hopefully.

;)

Not till I get to the 10s...

Hopefully.

;)

So you're going to bolt on boost first?

Hard to compare time slips from state to state. The 5.0 is a nice car meant to go fast but as for me I like the challenge of making a slower car go faster than the slimmer faster cars. Can you make a Mustang a 10 second car yes. Can you make the G8 a 10 second car yes. At the end of the day the guy with the best mechanic/tuner and $$ wins... Enough said...

So you're going to bolt on boost first?

Nope.

Hard to compare time slips from state to state. The 5.0 is a nice car meant to go fast but as for me I like the challenge of making a slower car go faster than the slimmer faster cars. Can you make a Mustang a 10 second car yes. Can you make the G8 a 10 second car yes. At the end of the day the guy with the best mechanic/tuner and $$ wins... Enough said...

No, actually, it's pretty easy.

Use DA and compare...

No, actually, it's pretty easy.

Use DA and compare...

I'd rather be at the same track same day but thats just me. You could look at the weather channels and they all tell you something slightly different. Perfect example I checked the Dragtimes weather conditions for Barona dragstrip 1030am yesterday and it said something like 2000+ DA. The guys with the straight track cars and their fancy gadgets are telling me their gadgets/DA meter was reading 3900+. So its not as easy as you think but I'll take your word for it.

I dont like to tell people my car is faster than theirs until we line them up.

Nope.

Cool. You always seem to squeeze the most out before getting into serious changes. Good luck!

Comparing the mustang to the g8 is like comparing the mustang to a c6 z06. I just don't get why it's even being discussed... Just because George has owned both doesn't make unbiased; it just makes him more informed than most :)

Here's a crazy idea, since the g8 never made it passed 09.5 lets compare mustangs from similar years. We all know the coyote motor was created in responce to camaro and its ls3.

obviously the 5.0's are fast and nice... but sadly like all mustangs there a dime a dozen.

Comparing the mustang to the g8 is like comparing the mustang to a c6 z06. I just don't get why it's even being discussed... Just because George has owned both doesn't make unbiased; it just makes him more informed than most :)

I didn't bring up the subject...

;)

11.88 to a 12.16 ohhh yeah thats really a diff leauge!

Ummmm, yeah....it kinda is, especially when you note the 5mph difference in trap speed. For me, trap speed is more telling.

In that second video, that Mustang was walking away pretty good.

I have a G8 with a few parts on it too. It's not slow, but I have no delusions. The 5.0 is a beast of a car for the money and takes so little to make it pleasantly fast. When it comes down to it, anything you do to a G8 will produce even better results on a 5.0. It was available when I bought my G8. I simply didn't want a car that I would see someone else driving every other block. Plus I wanted a 4-door.

Hopefully faster then that... bolton subarus are running 11's now for $10k cheaper. I'd be pissed if I had over $30k into a domestic and it didnt go 10's.

11's without NOS is 1/3-1/2 the price of 10's without NOS for most cars.

There was a guy at the track with $20k into a 2010 Camaro that ran a best ET of 12.4 and a best trap of 118 on ET Streets. That just ain't right.

11's without NOS is 1/3-1/2 the price of 10's without NOS for most cars.

There was a guy at the track with $20k into a 2010 Camaro that ran a best ET of 12.4 and a best trap of 118 on ET Streets. That just ain't right.

lol that's horrible! Seems to be in need of the driver mod.

I ran 12.5 with $1,100 into my G8.

Good runs to the op but, Add 2 doors to the mustang and then compare hahaha. I've liked the G8 since they've came out. I just recently bought one and I'm impressed at how well it rides for what it is, a heavy ass v8 sedan that gets 26mpg on the highway. I was looking at getting a new ss or 5.0, but having one kid and another on the way, they weren't options any more. I know my wife loves the thing.

BTW, my dad can beat up your dad

There was a guy at the track with $20k into a 2010 Camaro that ran a best ET of 12.4 and a best trap of 118 on ET Streets. That just ain't right.

Something seems quite off with that. He must have a set of wheels that cost $16,000.

I know how to settle this, it can be done over any distance with a video camera.

I'll put my 2 year old grandson in his child's seat in the back of my G8GT, some brave 5.0 driver can do the same. We'll see how fast each can retrieve said child. If you don't have a grand son somebody will let you borrow one I'm sure! You probably have to buy them an ice cream cone though.

Sorry for reviving an old thread, I'm laid up with a torn cartilage and a little bored.

All in good fun guys! Drive safe!

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