Chevrolet Performance LSX Challenge Series and LSX Shootout - Total LSX Car Count

Does anyone know what the total LSX car count was?

All told... 51

Nice. I think the Rumble was at 26. I think we were at 26 in Fla. With fuel prices rising, I think the car count is great.

Nice. I think the Rumble was at 26. I think we were at 26 in Fla. With fuel prices rising, I think the car count is great.

No one would say it's a slam dunk, but to see the numbers stay consistent is encouraging and for the most part healthy.

I know we are all scratching our heads over the lack of fifth gen stuff out there racing. Perhaps it's still too soon for the less than hardcore guys to get their rides dirty, which is understandable.

We'll see what happens when the "second half" of the season begins in Bowling Green.

And... thanks to those who made it to the first two races and to Scoggin Dickey for picking up their entry.

Camaro5's event was the same weekend in Arizona, so some heads up 5th gens went to that. LPE, TSP and some others were there.

Offhand I am seeing 30-40 5th gens out there running some good times. I think that scene is growing.

Camaro5's event was the same weekend in Arizona, so some heads up 5th gens went to that. LPE, TSP and some others were there.

Offhand I am seeing 30-40 5th gens out there running some good times. I think that scene is growing.


The sage has spoken. Thanks John. Oh, and about me calling you back...

I would not be surprised to see 250 cars at Bowling Green this year in Sept.

I hope you are right about that estimate cause if I saw 250 there, or any ls only event, not only would I be surprised I would be stunnened and speechless.

It will definately be interesting to see who shows at Bowling Green and the World Finals in Indy...

Derek

i know im bringing atleast 5-6 more cars with me to bg and indy, they just were not commited enough to go as far as the first two races.

i know im bringing atleast 5-6 more cars with me to bg and indy, they just were not commited enough to go as far as the first two races.

same here we have pittsburgh crew that will travel a little bit but not liek the first 2 events. gonna hype it up at the shop and get more of my customers to go.

I have a feeling LS fest in BG will be the biggest of the year

What was the car count at Gateway last October? Could it possibly be just being to far south? I want to be there bad just to much damn $$$$ I am going to try and make BG and Indy for sure. BG is about 6 1/2 hours and Indy is a little closer. Those are doable.

Gateway was around 125 but that counts lsx true street which we did not have at the first two races.

One thing that was noticeable being this was a NMRA race weekend as well, was the ratio of Stangs to LS cars, it had to have been 10:1, at least.

How do you get more LS cars to follow this series?

I was there, but didn't bring a car this go around, went with a friend who raced instead.

I thought the turn out was light everywhere, including Rumble, by comparison to other events I have attended.

Drag Radial, All Motor, Real Street were all thin again as well. Hoping to see this grow and turn into NMRA level racing.

Maybe more classes like the NMRA has??

It sure seemed that way with the stangs ;)

Yeah I'm sure the lack of 5th Gens was partially do to the Camaro5 Fest in Phoenix. However, after going to that event I think it will be a year or two before we see a lot of 5th Gens at the race track. They seem to be a little different crowd. Not that it's a bad thing, but they don't seem to be real concerned or interested in taking their cars to the races and racing them. Seemed like a lot of people out there have never even been down a drag strip in any car. There were a handful of cars with bigs and littles and I think we were one of two cars on a slick that I saw. They are just a different group than the guys you find over here and I think it will take a bit before you see the majority of them doing the more performance based mods and racing their cars.

Jon

True Street will be at the Holley LS Fest!

It was the same way with the Late Model HEMI crowd once the cars warranty expires then you will see more. The average person cannot afford these things yet. Once they are on the used car lots and get affordable it will get better

Unfortunately I won't be able to make BG or Indy. My brother's wedding is on Oct 9 and I'm the best man and my wife and I are expecting a baby girl that should be here in 4-5 weeks. Maybe if the baby is really good and sleeping all night I can sneak away to BG, but with a 16 month old brother needing attention it's probably not likely.

I used to dream about racing the LS1tech racing series and only went to the Thunder Shootout once the last year it was run. After the series was canceled I always said if there is ever another LS only series I will do whatever it takes to support it. So I can say with all honesty that I am sad to not be able to make it.

It pisses me off to see the size of the NMRA and the number of people that show up to race compared to the car count in the challenge series. LS1tech has 172,000 members. Where are they????? A single post in the drag tech section can get 1000 views in a few days but we only get 51 cars at the track for a LS specific race?? The kicker is that there is no entry fee thanks to Scoggin Dickey. I know Bradenton was a far drive and expected low car count, but I thought it would double for Atlanta.

I really wish I could make the last two races and still have a touch of hope for Bowling Green. How about everyone that reads this and has yet to show up for one of these races suck it up and show up for me? I promise you'll have a great time. Walk around the pits and talk to some people and it will be even better. I look forward to seeing my friends from across the country more than the actual racing. Get out there and see for yourself!!!!!

Sorry to hear this Cliff. I thought you were only going to miss one event. I agree with you about people reading the threads and not showing up. I like the posts about I am still working on my car. I think people need to s%#t or get off the bowl. So many people out there read the thread about how great each event is. You don't have to be a die hard racer to participate, just come out and have fun like everyone else. It is sad that the car count is so low. I really thought the same about the car count in Atlanta. Maybe we will all be surprised in BG.

That was well said for sure!! I enjoyed meeting the folks that came from all over and the local LS folks as well that came out on Saturday to race! I hope you do get to slip out of the house and make it to Beech Bend! This past weekend I got to meet folks from NY, NJ, IN, LA, PA, AL, TN, GA, NC, OH, FL, MI and SC. I now look forward to seeing them again in the future!

Rob you are also correct I have no idea what I am doing but I had a great time!! What better way to learn you get in for free and race your car down a 1/4 mile track!!!!!!!!

N2

hell yeah checking in for PA crew! but cliff nailed it on the head. .

Cliff had a great time !!! Couldn't agree more. Thank you scoggin dickey for the entry and nmca for having the series. I hope the 5th gen gets bigger I wish I could trade two wins for the Indy win I want the block for the firehawk. Will have the 5th gen and hawk in BG.

True Street will be at the Holley LS Fest!
I heard there was NOT going to be true street at BG, but there would be a
X275 class?
When will the classes be anounced?

Ray, there will be True Street in Bowling Green... Don't you worry about that!

True Street will be at the Holley LS Fest!Ray, there will be True Street in Bowling Green... Don't you worry about that!:cool: :thumb:

Will it have the various ET breaks (ie: awards for the closest to 9.0, 10.0, 11.0 etc.) just like the True Street class at the other events?

Sorry to hear this Cliff. I thought you were only going to miss one event. I agree with you about people reading the threads and not showing up. I like the posts about I am still working on my car. I think people need to s%#t or get off the bowl. So many people out there read the thread about how great each event is. You don't have to be a die hard racer to participate, just come out and have fun like everyone else. It is sad that the car count is so low. I really thought the same about the car count in Atlanta. Maybe we will all be surprised in BG.

Yeah, my LSX season is most likely done. It upsets me that we now have the best opportunity ever to come together as LS enthusiasts and so few take advantage. If someone is wishing to be a part of it then they need to get while the gettin is good or they may miss the chance. Two years from now if the series gets canceled those people are going to wish they had begged, borrowed, or financed the money to participate. I have about 13-1400 bucks in fuel and hotel fees to go to the first two races charged on my credit card. Let me tell you that's a small price to pay for so much fun!

Something of this magnitude needs to have the support of more than 50 cars to survive. Thankfully we have the help of the NMCA to keep it going. So many cry that they want a standalone LS event and not be piggy backed with the NMCA. How long do you suppose that would last with 50 cars showing up to race?

For those that complain that it's just too far away compared to this or that; I can go an extra 300 miles for roughly a 90 dollar fill up. I'm sure most pulling an open car hauler fall close to this number. Most of the time the difference between what is supposedly too far and what is not is less than 300 miles. Is 90 bucks really enough to deter someone from showing up? I would have thought the free entry offer would have made people look at this pretty hard, but I guess not.:judge: /end rant

That is right and even less for those not pullin' a trailer

Was there even a ls1 car in any class from the Atlanta area.
People always complain the races are always to far north.
I can not believe no cars from the surrounding area showed up to support the race.
Heck its vengeance and gmmgs back yard.
We get 5 to 10 ls cars on a weekday test and tune.

May be add a car show so we can get car count up and maybe some will start to race when they see how fun it can be.

I would like to thank everyone who is working so hard to get this series going. I will continue to support and recruit for the good of the ls community.

We will be bringing more cars from the Ohio area for BG and Indy.

That was well said for sure!! I enjoyed meeting the folks that came from all over and the local LS folks as well that came out on Saturday to race! I hope you do get to slip out of the house and make it to Beech Bend! This past weekend I got to meet folks from NY, NJ, IN, LA, PA, AL, TN, GA, NC, OH, FL, MI and SC. I now look forward to seeing them again in the future!

Rob you are also correct I have no idea what I am doing but I had a great time!! What better way to learn you get in for free and race your car down a 1/4 mile track!!!!!!!!

N2

was nice meeting you as well, you beat me in the first round!!! :D

Yeah, my LSX season is most likely done. It upsets me that we now have the best opportunity ever to come together as LS enthusiasts and so few take advantage. If someone is wishing to be a part of it then they need to get while the gettin is good or they may miss the chance. Two years from now if the series gets canceled those people are going to wish they had begged, borrowed, or financed the money to participate. I have about 13-1400 bucks in fuel and hotel fees to go to the first two races charged on my credit card. Let me tell you that's a small price to pay for so much fun!

Something of this magnitude needs to have the support of more than 50 cars to survive. Thankfully we have the help of the NMCA to keep it going. So many cry that they want a standalone LS event and not be piggy backed with the NMCA. How long do you suppose that would last with 50 cars showing up to race?

For those that complain that it's just too far away compared to this or that; I can go an extra 300 miles for roughly a 90 dollar fill up. I'm sure most pulling an open car hauler fall close to this number. Most of the time the difference between what is supposedly too far and what is not is less than 300 miles. Is 90 bucks really enough to deter someone from showing up? I would have thought the free entry offer would have made people look at this pretty hard, but I guess not.:judge: /end rant


I hear you, I think I had 800 in fuel to florida and 400 in fuel to georgia, not counting hotels/food. And well I'm a big boy so food is important. But I wouldn't have it any other way, even if it does elicit a few dirty looks (:eyes:) from the woman. I had a blast at the first two races with you guys, I wish you could make it to another one!!

Was there even a ls1 car in any class from the Atlanta area.
People always complain the races are always to far north.
I can not believe no cars from the surrounding area showed up to support the race.
Heck its vengeance and gmmgs back yard.
We get 5 to 10 ls cars on a weekday test and tune.

May be add a car show so we can get car count up and maybe some will start to race when they see how fun it can be.

I would like to thank everyone who is working so hard to get this series going. I will continue to support and recruit for the good of the ls community.

We will be bringing more cars from the Ohio area for BG and Indy.

I know vengeance had their truck there, I raced against it in qualifying, otherwise I might've seen 1-2 cars there with georgia license plates on them, thats it

Yeah, my LSX season is most likely done. It upsets me that we now have the best opportunity ever to come together as LS enthusiasts and so few take advantage. If someone is wishing to be a part of it then they need to get while the gettin is good or they may miss the chance. Two years from now if the series gets canceled those people are going to wish they had begged, borrowed, or financed the money to participate. I have about 13-1400 bucks in fuel and hotel fees to go to the first two races charged on my credit card. Let me tell you that's a small price to pay for so much fun!

Something of this magnitude needs to have the support of more than 50 cars to survive. Thankfully we have the help of the NMCA to keep it going. So many cry that they want a standalone LS event and not be piggy backed with the NMCA. How long do you suppose that would last with 50 cars showing up to race?

For those that complain that it's just too far away compared to this or that; I can go an extra 300 miles for roughly a 90 dollar fill up. I'm sure most pulling an open car hauler fall close to this number. Most of the time the difference between what is supposedly too far and what is not is less than 300 miles. Is 90 bucks really enough to deter someone from showing up? I would have thought the free entry offer would have made people look at this pretty hard, but I guess not.:judge: /end rantYou make excellent points here, now I feel guilty as hell for sitting out at least the Atlanta race. :nono: Especially considering Scoggin-Dickey's generous subsidy.
But it wasn't just the fuel costs but probably also the strong threat of rain that unfortunately contributed (for me at least)...it's one thing to spend that kind of money on fuel, hotel, tolls just to possibly go out 1st round but it gets even more frustrating if there is an event rain out. :(
I have every intention of making it to Indy in October but after reading what you've written I'm really going to try and make the Holley LS Fest in Bowling Green as well.






That is right and even less for those not pullin' a trailer:secret2: :disgust: ;)

You make excellent points here, now I feel guilty as hell for sitting out at least the Atlanta race. :nono: Especially considering Scoggin-Dickey's generous subsidy.
But it wasn't just the fuel costs but probably also the strong threat of rain that unfortunately contributed (for me at least)...it's one thing to spend that kind of money on fuel, hotel, tolls just to possibly go out 1st round but it gets even more frustrating if there is an event rain out. :(
I have every intention of making it to Indy in October but after reading what you've written I'm really going to try and make the Holley LS Fest in Bowling Green as well.
:secret2: :disgust: ;)


I'm glad to see I may actually sway a few that are on the fence to come on over! As much as it would suck to drive that far and lose out first round, most of my point is that it's more than just racing. It's like a vacation with a really big family that all manage to get along and share the same interest. It doesn't matter if I lose out first round or break on Friday evening I will still stay until Sunday evening and hang out with my LSX brothers and sisters!

Was there even a ls1 car in any class from the Atlanta area.
People always complain the races are always to far north.
I can not believe no cars from the surrounding area showed up to support the race.
Heck its vengeance and gmmgs back yard.
We get 5 to 10 ls cars on a weekday test and tune.

May be add a car show so we can get car count up and maybe some will start to race when they see how fun it can be.

I would like to thank everyone who is working so hard to get this series going. I will continue to support and recruit for the good of the ls community.

We will be bringing more cars from the Ohio area for BG and Indy.

I saw a few Georgia plates and that's not nearly enough. The Georgia folks can't pull the weather card(This isn't a poke at those reluctant to make a long haul due to the forecast). What gets me is we always hear about the huge number of LS race cars in Texas but it doesn't look that way to me. If there are so many then you would think there would be a larger number of Tx plates in the pits. There was one Texas car registered in Rumble and I believe he came with the SAM team. Where's the Texas racers?????

It’s great to see this kind of dialog on here for a lot of reasons. From my perspective we are finally seeing what I believe to be the transition away from petty arguments about rules, placement of sponsor decals on paint, long time between rounds, etc., and actually focusing on the big picture.

Sure, many of the gripes we’ve heard and read about after each years shootout have been warranted, but have, for the most part, fallen under the micromanage category. That’s not saying there haven’t been mistakes and miscues along the way or that there isn’t room for improvement, because there always is. To me though, what I’m seeing is a dedicated group of hardcore racers, joining together in an attempt to birth something new. Guess what? There is no such thing as painless childbirth. The labor pains we are experiencing now, should result in a wonderful new entity, which we all can nurture and watch grow and when it’s old enough to walk on it’s own two feet, stand back and pat each other on the back.

For those of you who were at Commerce, it really was an in-your-face reality to see all of those Mustangs wasn’t it? We can argue all day long for and against the Bowtie or the Blue Oval, but when it’s all over, the reality is, Mustang/Ford drag racing is kicking (as it has been for years) everyone’s ass. Those in attendance at Atlanta Dragway, witnessed it first hand.

I didn’t expect to see the response I did to that fact. I honestly expected to see and hear a bunch of whining about too many Mustangs stinking up the show for the LSX faithful, followed by rallying cries to get all of our scalps for allowing it to happen – for me what I see here are a few of you guys finally “getting” it. In order for this series to work, we all need to work together, at least for a while.

Several years ago, When John Ryan and Tony Whatley approached Jamie Meyer and the NMCA, to discuss what would become the first LSX Shootout, there was always an underlying hope that it could grow into a series of it’s own, but if it couldn’t, perhaps it could become something akin to the World Ford Challenge. Granted, comparing the two would be difficult since the WFC was Ford specific, not a family of engines that were Ford specific. If we wanted to compare apples to apples, there would have needed to be a World Ford Three-Valve Challenge or something similar.

Keep in mind, what we all are involved with here is different than what has been done before. We are, in many ways, doing something that hasn’t been done successfully in the past (an engine specific racing series… except for the HEMI). While it may appear that we react slowly, we are in fact, reacting methodically and deliberately, relying on a whole lotta years of experience putting these types of things together – we are crawling before we walk.

After the initial success of the first shootout in Memphis, there was a lot of chatter about the need for a standalone series. As many of you already know, John and Tony had already attempted that very thing a few years earlier only to be met with a lot of Internet commitments that rarely materialized. Yeah, it’s easy to pound out “I’ll be there” on a keyboard, but it’s another story when you look at the 100 pieces your ride is in on the garage floor and the 200 bucks you have in your checking account.
That’s the reality folks. While we all want to think there is no reason on earth not to have 300 LS cars show up to a race, they just won’t – not yet.

Some may read this and shake their fists or hop on here and say “If the rules were right you’d have more cars!” or, “You guys are idiots because you don’t allow xyz in this class. I know of 50 cars would show up if you did!”

Yeah, right.

We all know you can’t please all of the people all of the time. The NMCA also knows the rules for the heads-up classes aren’t perfect, but it’s a start and you can’t have an end until you have a beginning.

As most of you here realize, GMPP, Holley, Scoggin-Dickey, the NMCA and all of the class and contingency sponsors have plopped right into your laps, a great opportunity. You wanted a series? You got it. No, it may not be the perfect fit, having to sit in your pits as Mustang after Mustang chugs by on the way to the lanes, or while bracket cars are once again taking a test hit, or be parked on the grass, but it sure as heck is better than nothing.

While we, along with the rest of those underwriting the Challenge Series, had hoped for a better turnout, it sure as heck could have been worse. Remember what I wrote earlier about being methodical and deliberate? If we add ten cars per event, it’s growth, and that’s positive growth. Using the earlier childbirth metaphor – a human being becomes human, one cell at a time. The same with a racing series.

The NMCA believes in this series, as does GMPP, SDPC, Holley, and everyone else involved.

For those of you who have attended one of the first Challenge Series events, thank you for making the effort. For those of you who haven’t raced yet, we ask that you take the next few months, and get your shit running, fixed, or start saving your bucks to get to Bowling Green in September and Indy in October.

It’s great to see this kind of dialog on here for a lot of reasons. From my perspective we are finally seeing what I believe to be the transition away from petty arguments about rules, placement of sponsor decals on paint, long time between rounds, etc., and actually focusing on the big picture.

Sure, many of the gripes we’ve heard and read about after each years shootout have been warranted, but have, for the most part, fallen under the micromanage category. That’s not saying there haven’t been mistakes and miscues along the way or that there isn’t room for improvement, because there always is. To me though, what I’m seeing is a dedicated group of hardcore racers, joining together in an attempt to birth something new. Guess what? There is no such thing as painless childbirth. The labor pains we are experiencing now, should result in a wonderful new entity, which we all can nurture and watch grow and when it’s old enough to walk on it’s own two feet, stand back and pat each other on the back.

For those of you who were at Commerce, it really was an in-your-face reality to see all of those Mustangs wasn’t it? We can argue all day long for and against the Bowtie or the Blue Oval, but when it’s all over, the reality is, Mustang/Ford drag racing is kicking (as it has been for years) everyone’s ass. Those in attendance at Atlanta Dragway, witnessed it first hand.

I didn’t expect to see the response I did to that fact. I honestly expected to see and hear a bunch of whining about too many Mustangs stinking up the show for the LSX faithful, followed by rallying cries to get all of our scalps for allowing it to happen – for me what I see here are a few of you guys finally “getting” it. In order for this series to work, we all need to work together, at least for a while.

Several years ago, When John Ryan and Tony Whatley approached Jamie Meyer and the NMCA, to discuss what would become the first LSX Shootout, there was always an underlying hope that it could grow into a series of it’s own, but if it couldn’t, perhaps it could become something akin to the World Ford Challenge. Granted, comparing the two would be difficult since the WFC was Ford specific, not a family of engines that were Ford specific. If we wanted to compare apples to apples, there would have needed to be a World Ford Three-Valve Challenge or something similar.

Keep in mind, what we all are involved with here is different than what has been done before. We are, in many ways, doing something that hasn’t been done successfully in the past (an engine specific racing series… except for the HEMI). While it may appear that we react slowly, we are in fact, reacting methodically and deliberately, relying on a whole lotta years of experience putting these types of things together – we are crawling before we walk.

After the initial success of the first shootout in Memphis, there was a lot of chatter about the need for a standalone series. As many of you already know, John and Tony had already attempted that very thing a few years earlier only to be met with a lot of Internet commitments that rarely materialized. Yeah, it’s easy to pound out “I’ll be there” on a keyboard, but it’s another story when you look at the 100 pieces your ride is in on the garage floor and the 200 bucks you have in your checking account.
That’s the reality folks. While we all want to think there is no reason on earth not to have 300 LS cars show up to a race, they just won’t – not yet.

Some may read this and shake their fists or hop on here and say “If the rules were right you’d have more cars!” or, “You guys are idiots because you don’t allow xyz in this class. I know of 50 cars would show up if you did!”

Yeah, right.

We all know you can’t please all of the people all of the time. The NMCA also knows the rules for the heads-up classes aren’t perfect, but it’s a start and you can’t have an end until you have a beginning.

As most of you here realize, GMPP, Holley, Scoggin-Dickey, the NMCA and all of the class and contingency sponsors have plopped right into your laps, a great opportunity. You wanted a series? You got it. No, it may not be the perfect fit, having to sit in your pits as Mustang after Mustang chugs by on the way to the lanes, or while bracket cars are once again taking a test hit, or be parked on the grass, but it sure as heck is better than nothing.

While we, along with the rest of those underwriting the Challenge Series, had hoped for a better turnout, it sure as heck could have been worse. Remember what I wrote earlier about being methodical and deliberate? If we add ten cars per event, it’s growth, and that’s positive growth. Using the earlier childbirth metaphor – a human being becomes human, one cell at a time. The same with a racing series.

The NMCA believes in this series, as does GMPP, SDPC, Holley, and everyone else involved.

For those of you who have attended one of the first Challenge Series events, thank you for making the effort. For those of you who haven’t raced yet, we ask that you take the next few months, and get your shit running, fixed, or start saving your bucks to get to Bowling Green in September and Indy in October.

Well said.

I am really sad that I cannot be at any Events this year either. I enjoy racing with a lot of you guys and showing you up! :D When you own a shop, it's very difficult to "shut down" for more than 1-2 days without having a huge loss in profits so until they move one closer to Texas :cry:

I'm still waiting on some All Motor Rule Changes...

I think there are a lot of members on here that do not even own or actively have an LS car, so they don't show up. I tell everyone I meet in Tx how great these Events are, but most are on a tight budget and don't have $$ to travel far, etc.

As much as it would suck to drive that far and lose out first round, most of my point is that it's more than just racing. It's like a vacation with a really big family that all manage to get along and share the same interest. It doesn't matter if I lose out first round or break on Friday evening I will still stay until Sunday evening and hang out with my LSX brothers and sisters!That is key right there :thumb: ...I had SUCH an awesome time at the Shootout in St. Louis (Madison) last October that even if I hadn't faired as decently as I had in competition (won the 13.0 LSX True Street segment and made it to round 2 in LSX Rumble) I still don't believe that it would've made the event any less fun for me. :)
Hanging out in the pits with friends and watching some awesome racing is reason enough to be there. I went as a spectator only at the very first one in Memphis in '07 and that too was a great time.







For those of you who were at Commerce, it really was an in-your-face reality to see all of those Mustangs wasn’t it? We can argue all day long for and against the Bowtie or the Blue Oval, but when it’s all over, the reality is, Mustang/Ford drag racing is kicking (as it has been for years) everyone’s ass. Those in attendance at Atlanta Dragway, witnessed it first hand.

I didn’t expect to see the response I did to that fact. I honestly expected to see and hear a bunch of whining about too many Mustangs stinking up the show for the LSX faithful, followed by rallying cries to get all of our scalps for allowing it to happen – for me what I see here are a few of you guys finally “getting” it. In order for this series to work, we all need to work together, at least for a while.I think we should all be quite thankful for those Mustangs, they carry a lot of weight and truly help keep other series/venues (like the LSx) going during these somewhat 'dry' times. :nod:

Very moving Scott...I was there and I now feel guilty i raced EFI and not LSX Challenge Series :(

I hope you count me in the numbers

Very moving Scott...I was there and I now feel guilty i raced EFI and not LSX Challenge Series :(

I hope you count me in the numbers

Your situation is a bit special Edgar. You committed to running EFI before there was an LSX series. I know you were torn between running EFI and the LSX races this year. But how do you pass on the chance to run a season with the number 1 on the window?

Your situation is a bit special Edgar. You committed to running EFI before there was an LSX series. I know you were torn between running EFI and the LSX races this year. But how do you pass on the chance to run a season with the number 1 on the window?Exactly, I agree...and who knows, maybe next year or the year after he'll enter the LSX Challenge series instead. :D

SCOTT,
You nailed it. You have the brass to say it, Myself and Cliff danced around the truth.

Yes, I do own a Mustang and would have been there racing it if it was not for the NMCA LSX Series. I am a coordinator with Edgar with our Corvette Challenge Series. Edgar is in charge of the Brackets and I coordinate the Index. I understand everything the NMCA is doing for the LSX Series. You need to crawl before you walk. We made the rules for the first season, then we modified them for the following season then so on again. We try to make the rules fair for all. As you said, we will not please all. My number goal is to be fair, 2- then to try to please the racer if within reason.

I commend you and the staff for all that you do. I also need to thank ALL of the sponsor's for stepping up to a new series. That is a huge risk for all.

When the contingency list was posted I went shopping. I feel that WE NEED TO SUPPORT THOSE THAT SUPPORT US. My daily driver looks like a race car with all the decals. :D My thought behind this was to purchase the items listed to show my support.

I wish I could do something to increase the car count. How can you top Scoggin-Dickey. They are paying for your entrance fee. What do I have to do? Tow your car to the track?

Hey Cliff, your excuse's are not acceptable. :pissed: I don't want to hear about your brothers wedding, your having a baby........ I am joking. At least you were able to come out for two events. Next season you will be out there making up for this season. I also remember that your son may not adjust well with the baby. I have been there, I have a 3 year old and a 5 year old. I brought them to the last race. If you heard screaming, that was them. :D

I hope those that don't post and just read will respond by attending, I hope those that have been working on there vehicles will attend, I hope those that have some other excuse will attend. If you are confused, read this thread again.

Everyone thought the Shootout was so great, now we have a four event series. HELLO!!!??? WAKE UP!!!??? I would have displayed the picture of the horse being beaten, but I was not able to find it.

PS:
I really want to thank all of the people that came out. I see it as one large family. Someone is need of help, we are all there to help. That alone says a lot.

Those that think they have to tow there cars to these events are wrong. I drove mine 11 hours to fla and 4.5 hours to ga. Then raced all weekend loaded the drag radials in the back seat and drove back home. Found a hotel for 60 bucks a night on friday afternoon before the storm hit in ga. Planned to camp out at the track. And still had an fantastic time and didnt spend much money.

When the contingency list was posted I went shopping. I feel that WE NEED TO SUPPORT THOSE THAT SUPPORT US. My daily driver looks like a race car with all the decals. :D My thought behind this was to purchase the items listed to show my support.And here I thought you did it so that you could collect the BIG contingency ca$h when you won! :eek: :D :lol: ;)
All kidding aside, EVERYONE wins when the racers support the sponsors that support the series. :nod:




What do I have to do? Tow your car to the track?Oh wow, you would do that for me Rob?! :eek: I thank you SO much for the offer, we'll firm up the plans for loading my car into your trailer for the Bowling Green race at the next Corvette Challenge. :P :D :jest: ;)




Everyone thought the Shootout was so great, now we have a four event series. HELLO!!!??? WAKE UP!!!??? I would have displayed the picture of the horse being beaten, but I was not able to find it.Here it is: http://images.ibsrv.net/ibsrv/res/src:forums.corvetteforum.com/get/images/smilies/beatdeadhorse5.gif :D

Those that think they have to tow there cars to these events are wrong. I drove mine 11 hours to fla and 4.5 hours to ga. Then raced all weekend loaded the drag radials in the back seat and drove back home. Found a hotel for 60 bucks a night on friday afternoon before the storm hit in ga. Planned to camp out at the track. And still had an fantastic time and didnt spend much money.Same here :nod: ...I drove my Z28 out to St. Louis from New Jersey with my tires and various travel accessories loaded in the back, roughly 1850 miles round trip (plus driving to/from the hotel/track each day), stayed at the Super 8 for $55.00 per night, ate their 'not so great but still edible' free continental breakfast before the track each morning and ate relatively cheaply at night. Even without the $100.00 I won in the True Street race, total for fuel, tolls, race entry, hotel and food all came in at well under $600.00.
CLEARLY worth it for the combination of racing (participating AND spectating), road trip/vacation, fun with friends in the pits and just straight up supporting an awesome race. :nod:
The 'trailering' racers don't have it as good (fuel :nono:) but generally speaking, many of them bought the trailer specifically for events such as these so it only makes sense to use it for that. :)

Oh wow, you would do that for me Rob?! :eek: I thank you SO much for the offer, we'll firm up the plans for loading my car into your trailer for the Bowling Green race at the next Corvette Challenge. :P :D :jest: ;)

Ha Ha, I will not tie the car down and I will leave the back door open. We will see how far I can go before we notice the car is on the hwy with us. :usa:

Those that think they have to tow there cars to these events are wrong. I drove mine 11 hours to fla and 4.5 hours to ga. Then raced all weekend loaded the drag radials in the back seat and drove back home. Found a hotel for 60 bucks a night on friday afternoon before the storm hit in ga. Planned to camp out at the track. And still had an fantastic time and didnt spend much money.

I can vouch for Keith he was pitted beside me! I am glad he went to go find a motel room before the storm. I know I saw him one time trying out the passenger seat on that GTO to see how it would sleep!

Enjoyed meeting and racing with you see you soon!

N2

Ha Ha, I will not tie the car down and I will leave the back door open. We will see how far I can go before we notice the car is on the hwy with us. :usa:

Rob,

As big and long as that trailer is his car would stay in there with no straps ;)

N2

Ha Ha, I will not tie the car down and I will leave the back door open. We will see how far I can go before we notice the car is on the hwy with us. :usa::lol: ;)





Rob,

As big and long as that trailer is his car would stay in there with no straps ;)True! :D

....You don't have to be a die hard racer to participate, just come out and have fun like everyone else....

Truer words were never spoken.

Lots of great comments in here. Scott, thank you for making the bold statements that needed to be said. As mentioned, I wish more could take advantage of this opportunity, especially the local racers. Looking forward to seeing everyone on Indy!

Derek

Its real easy, the people that want to complain about every little thing, just don't go! We are more than lucky to have any kind of race at all, especially FOUR. Not everyone can make every race, not all the rules can be bent for everyone to fit, you just have to suck it up and go, if you can't, then enjoy all the outlets from the races like live streaming. I have a great time hanging with all the people I know from over the years, and the new ones I meet, its worth every bit of the $$$ to go. Thanks NMCA for including LSX, and thanks Scoggin Dickey for paying entry fee.......I don't see how people can complain about free entry! :usa:


I will see yall in bowling green!

Those that think they have to tow there cars to these events are wrong. I drove mine 11 hours to fla and 4.5 hours to ga. Then raced all weekend loaded the drag radials in the back seat and drove back home. Found a hotel for 60 bucks a night on friday afternoon before the storm hit in ga. Planned to camp out at the track. And still had an fantastic time and didnt spend much money.

AND Keith rides by himself, thats hardcore

Just read the Editorial by Scott in the FSC magazine. wanted to say nice write up and bump this thread!

i have not read it yet. Going to get it now

I understand what Scott is saying completely. I just read the article today (after coming home from the West Coast Shootout) I have been hosting a similar type of event at Fontana for the last 4 years that started as dedicated to the LS cars. The event would not have survived if I did not open it up to other vehicles.

I think there are some issues that people are not taking into account. I spoke with the track manager from Atlanta today and we were comparing notes about what it takes to get the younger generation into a series. What was universal is that they will come for TNT, but the younger crowd is not interested in a series. I had plenty of 5th Gens racing this year but all but 1 was in the TNT.

I am discussing a plan with a racer here to try some ideas to get the street guys into competitive series racing. Will see how it goes.

Scott I will be back tomorrow, may see you then.

I disagree I'm 27 now raced last four LSX shootouts with five other buddies that raced everyone too and were all in our 20's