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wcryan
04-21-2011, 12:16 PM
http://shop.gforce1320.com/category.sc?categoryId=22

Is that 500$ kit the one you want to get rid of wheel hop? I just want to make sure before I go ahead and start placing an order.

Also.

The pinion support brace..... Is it worth it?
http://www.neweraperformanceparts.com/default.asp?S=500&A=F&CategoryID=894291&SearchMode=false

All input would be great. Thanks


greddy91
04-21-2011, 12:25 PM
I'll sell you the pinion brace out of my for sale section ad if you really want it. Save you some cash.

What year is your v?

Ultimately if you're going to kill it 100% you still won't get it done with all of this stuff. If you want to improve it 80%..

AWH Bushings, the diff bushing, and a single side of the axle duo will get you there the most cost effective manner possible.

If you will go to the track or launch on good pavement at all, IMO, DO NOT BUY THE PINION BRACE. If you're going to be doing highway pulls and not worry about launching, then it still has minimal value at best.

tweeter81
04-21-2011, 02:15 PM
I'll sell you the pinion brace out of my for sale section ad if you really want it. Save you some cash.

What year is your v?

Ultimately if you're going to kill it 100% you still won't get it done with all of this stuff. If you want to improve it 80%..

AWH Bushings, the diff bushing, and a single side of the axle duo will get you there the most cost effective manner possible.

If you will go to the track or launch on good pavement at all, IMO, DO NOT BUY THE PINION BRACE. If you're going to be doing highway pulls and not worry about launching, then it still has minimal value at best.

I disagree with the above post. The AWH cradle bushings to absolutely nothing to stop wheelhop, the diff bushing is only good because the stock one is so crappy that it wears out fast and allows the front of the diff mounting to make metal on metal contact (but again, this bushing does nothing for the wheelhop), and you will still have some hop with only one axle installed.

I guess results vary, because I have completely eliminated wheelhop with the GForce axles. The only time I still get some is in very wet conditions, but nothing can stop an IRS car from hopping under those circumstances.

I have run the full anti-wheelhop kit with a pinion brace in the past and it is a waste of time and it will transfer tons of vibration and weird noise into the cabin of the car. All of our diffs whine already, so when you basically tie that to the frame you are going to get obnoxious noises.

If you spend the cash on these axles (both of them), you should be set. Of course, the axles won't erase any damage that was done to the diff case prior to their installation, so if you wheelhopped your car before, the diff could still fail in the future, it will just take a hell of a lot longer than without the axles.


rjoffe
04-21-2011, 02:15 PM
Wheel hop can be controlled for free, just modulate the right pedal :)

Seriously though, I have the "inexpensive" single Hendrix axle and Spectre Werks subframe bushings, and they kill a good bit of it. In my experience the worst was in the rain, this combo has significantly reduced that.

wcryan
04-21-2011, 03:25 PM
tweet
your talking about the set for 500$ correct?

07CTS-V
04-21-2011, 03:49 PM
Tweeter81 is correct. Just get the set of both Gforce axles and your wheelhop will be almost completely gone. I believe the set is like $550.

wcryan
04-21-2011, 04:19 PM
Thanks Brian

tweeter81
04-21-2011, 05:20 PM
Tweeter81 is correct. Just get the set of both Gforce axles and your wheelhop will be almost completely gone. I believe the set is like $550.

Yep. I paid $550 for my set about a year ago. It's a truly cost effective way to eliminate wheelhop and give yourself more peace of mind.

GhettoTy
04-21-2011, 06:45 PM
Thats what I'll be getting also. Little more insurance than just one side and really don't want to spend the money on the full race setup.

wcryan
04-21-2011, 08:20 PM
I would have gotten these earlier, but I never knew they were in the 500$ range. I thought they were all in the thousand dollar ranges

SVT F15O
04-21-2011, 08:45 PM
I have the G-Force kit in my car and I have NEVER experience wheel-hop. In my opinion it is the first thing EVERYONE should do when buying these cars. There is absolutely no reason not to.

wcryan
04-21-2011, 08:51 PM
except when your car comes without wheel hop. hahaha

whisler151
04-21-2011, 09:13 PM
Gforce axles here and zero wheel hop.

wcryan
04-21-2011, 10:05 PM
I like these positive reviews

itsslow98
04-22-2011, 12:02 AM
Thats what I'll be getting also. Little more insurance than just one side and really don't want to spend the money on the full race setup.

Not really gaining any insurance by doing 2 axle shafts. That part stock wont break usually, its the CVs, and the pair wont reduce any more hop then just the one side. Just saying.

wcryan
04-22-2011, 03:26 AM
im confused

itsslow98
04-22-2011, 03:28 AM
If you gotta do Gforce i would save my money and just do this
http://shop.gforce1320.com/product.sc;jsessionid=051C72D428EFD7383E09F38438C9 53F2.qscstrfrnt01?productId=51&categoryId=22

Or you could call Hendrix Engineering and get there kit.

GhettoTy
04-22-2011, 05:19 AM
If you gotta do Gforce i would save my money and just do this
http://shop.gforce1320.com/product.sc;jsessionid=051C72D428EFD7383E09F38438C9 53F2.qscstrfrnt01?productId=51&categoryId=22

Or you could call Hendrix Engineering and get there kit.

You don't think it's worth the extra 230 bucks to get both axles?

tweeter81
04-22-2011, 09:25 AM
Not really gaining any insurance by doing 2 axle shafts. That part stock wont break usually, its the CVs, and the pair wont reduce any more hop then just the one side. Just saying.

I think it is safe to say that pretty much everybody else in the thread disagrees with what you said.

There have been a couple of reports of guys using just the one axle and still have about 20% of the wheelhop left. I have heard of one person with just the one axle that completely eliminated hop, but most still have some.

The entire point of buying both axles (and not being a cheap asshole) is that they were designed with different materials than stock and much different diameters so that the harmonics of wheelhop will be broken up. If you are only using one axle, you aren't getting the full effect.

greddy91
04-22-2011, 10:07 AM
I had one axle - I had hop still in the rain... Both axles still don't eliminate hop in the rain.

One axle provided enough anti hop/traction to allow a blown diff on a 1-2 shift... Maybe if I had both done then I could have blown the diff on the launch. Woe is me.

07CTS-V
04-22-2011, 10:24 AM
Not really gaining any insurance by doing 2 axle shafts. That part stock wont break usually, its the CVs, and the pair wont reduce any more hop then just the one side. Just saying.

I did one axle and it eliminated about 1/2 of my hop. Both axles took care of about 90%. Just sayin.

wcryan
04-22-2011, 11:06 AM
k, im doin both..... We'll, I was going to anyways. But I was a little confused for a minute. haha

Gforce Engineering
04-22-2011, 10:06 PM
Great feedback here guys, our CTS-V anti wheel-hop axles are one of our hottest selling axles and by far the best anti wheel-hop solution on the market.

Thanks
Chris

wcryan
04-23-2011, 04:53 AM
any deals on the axle kit? : )

dre2013
04-25-2011, 09:37 AM
damn, never realized the one axle is only $269! ill be ordering that next week. i dont give a shit about wheel-hop in the rain, shouldnt be going WOT in rain anyways.