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04-22-2011, 09:54 PM
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Please help me find this fitting! I have this:
it is a Russell Specialty Adapter Fitting RUS640850 EFI Adapter -6 Male To 3/8" SAE Quick Disconnect Female
I am using this on a 2010 Fuel pump module and running 3/8" line to my LS6. I need a short section of hard line, and I can not for the life of me find the female fitting that goes over the flared 3/8" line for this damn fitting!!!
I've been searching for two days now, and everything I have found is either a compression fitting or a coupler...nothing that just joins them! Please help me!
it is a Russell Specialty Adapter Fitting RUS640850 EFI Adapter -6 Male To 3/8" SAE Quick Disconnect Female
I am using this on a 2010 Fuel pump module and running 3/8" line to my LS6. I need a short section of hard line, and I can not for the life of me find the female fitting that goes over the flared 3/8" line for this damn fitting!!!
I've been searching for two days now, and everything I have found is either a compression fitting or a coupler...nothing that just joins them! Please help me!
04-22-2011, 10:42 PM
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Earls Performance part number 65006erl you can get it from summit for $10 it is a compresion fitting that will go on the 3/8 Line. Then you can use a short length of -6 AN line to couple it all together.
or you could use 165106ERL, same kind of thing it is a compression fitting above but with with a female end. This one and the tube nut listed below are a little more tricky b/c there is no flexability to the connection.
I personally do not like the Tube nuts because they are a -AN flare that is not your standart brake line flare and can cause fuel line leaking problems. The compression fittings work like a dream and are even good on stainless.
or you could use 165106ERL, same kind of thing it is a compression fitting above but with with a female end. This one and the tube nut listed below are a little more tricky b/c there is no flexability to the connection.
I personally do not like the Tube nuts because they are a -AN flare that is not your standart brake line flare and can cause fuel line leaking problems. The compression fittings work like a dream and are even good on stainless.
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04-22-2011, 10:47 PM
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So you're looking for the fitting that you'd use on the hardline to connect it to the male side of the RUS640850 fitting?
That would be an AN flare nut, and sleeve.
Nut: http://www.aircraftspruce.com/catalog/hapages/an818.php
Sleeve: http://www.aircraftspruce.com/catalog/hapages/an819.php
Assembly after flaring:
Flare the tube to 37 degrees.
Hydraulic shops that deal with hardlines should have these in steel, but will refer to them as "JIC". I'm not 100% sure, but I believe the difference between AN and JIC is in how they are tested and certified. Regardless, they work the same way (same flare angle and thread size/pitch).
That would be an AN flare nut, and sleeve.
Nut: http://www.aircraftspruce.com/catalog/hapages/an818.php
Sleeve: http://www.aircraftspruce.com/catalog/hapages/an819.php
Assembly after flaring:
Flare the tube to 37 degrees.
Hydraulic shops that deal with hardlines should have these in steel, but will refer to them as "JIC". I'm not 100% sure, but I believe the difference between AN and JIC is in how they are tested and certified. Regardless, they work the same way (same flare angle and thread size/pitch).
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04-23-2011, 07:52 AM
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So you're looking for the fitting that you'd use on the hardline to connect it to the male side of the RUS640850 fitting?
That would be an AN flare nut, and sleeve.
Nut: http://www.aircraftspruce.com/catalog/hapages/an818.php
Sleeve: http://www.aircraftspruce.com/catalog/hapages/an819.php
Assembly after flaring:
Flare the tube to 37 degrees.
Hydraulic shops that deal with hardlines should have these in steel, but will refer to them as "JIC". I'm not 100% sure, but I believe the difference between AN and JIC is in how they are tested and certified. Regardless, they work the same way (same flare angle and thread size/pitch).
That would be an AN flare nut, and sleeve.
Nut: http://www.aircraftspruce.com/catalog/hapages/an818.php
Sleeve: http://www.aircraftspruce.com/catalog/hapages/an819.php
Assembly after flaring:
Flare the tube to 37 degrees.
Hydraulic shops that deal with hardlines should have these in steel, but will refer to them as "JIC". I'm not 100% sure, but I believe the difference between AN and JIC is in how they are tested and certified. Regardless, they work the same way (same flare angle and thread size/pitch).
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04-23-2011, 12:54 PM
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Maybe you're thinking of the compression style fittings? (Which I wouldn't use, btw).
Like these:
The sleeve in the AN / JIC system actually just makes a transition between back of the flared tube and the nut, allowing the nut to apply force on the back of the flared tube more evenly, and prevent wear on the back of the flared tube, it doesn't really have anything to do with sealing. The inside surface of the flared tube and the machined surface of his russell fitting will do all the sealing.
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Earls Performance part number 65006erl you can get it from summit for $10 it is a compresion fitting that will go on the 3/8 Line. Then you can use a short length of -6 AN line to couple it all together.
or you could use 165106ERL, same kind of thing it is a compression fitting above but with with a female end. This one and the tube nut listed below are a little more tricky b/c there is no flexability to the connection.
I personally do not like the Tube nuts because they are a -AN flare that is not your standart brake line flare and can cause fuel line leaking problems. The compression fittings work like a dream and are even good on stainless.
or you could use 165106ERL, same kind of thing it is a compression fitting above but with with a female end. This one and the tube nut listed below are a little more tricky b/c there is no flexability to the connection.
I personally do not like the Tube nuts because they are a -AN flare that is not your standart brake line flare and can cause fuel line leaking problems. The compression fittings work like a dream and are even good on stainless.
http://www.summitracing.com/parts/EAR-165106ERL/
Originally Posted by Summit Racing
Notes 50 psi maximum pressure.
I'm not too sure why it matters if AN / JIC aren't standard brake line fittings? I also don't know why you think AN will cause fuel line leaking problems, and then go on to recommend AN adapters? Or even why AN / JIC would cause any such leaks to begin with.
Some reading for those who are interested:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/JIC_fitting
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AN_thread
Some more:
http://www.mechanicsupport.com/articleStronger.html
The above article suggests only using AN with AN... which I do agree with... But at 58 psi, we're so far below the maximum working pressure that I'm not sure it would matter anyways.
The article also says that many fittings sold as "AN fittings" are in fact industrial (JIC), not AN, so we don't specifically know if that Russell fitting is truly AN to begin with. At 58 psi I'm not too concerned.
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04-23-2011, 11:11 PM
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I'm pretty sure that this is what I am looking for and going to buy. All of the other items that you guys have been pointing out are the ones I have found that are either male ends (I need Female) or compression fittings, which may work with steel lines, but I just feel more comfortable with flared fittings on an pressurized lines.
I didn't really think it would be that hard to find either, but damn if it isn't one of the most challenging things I've searched for. I know that Russell has to make something--hell they make the female connector, surely they manufacture a male end right? NOPE...unless you are looking for a compression fitting, they don't.
Thank you to everyone for looking, hopefully this will be the most challenging part search of the build!
I didn't really think it would be that hard to find either, but damn if it isn't one of the most challenging things I've searched for. I know that Russell has to make something--hell they make the female connector, surely they manufacture a male end right? NOPE...unless you are looking for a compression fitting, they don't.
Thank you to everyone for looking, hopefully this will be the most challenging part search of the build!
04-24-2011, 04:58 PM
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What I should have said is that the AN/JIC are not a typical brake flare and require a specific flaring tool, and if not flared with this tool will cause leaking.
