User Support & Resources - thoughts about making ebay a requirement for the For Sale section

Just wondering what the Mods would think about making it a prerequisite to post the stuff on ebay before posting in the for sale section so people dont continue to get scammed making the buyer and seller more protected...

Ebay has scammers too. ;) Inversely, not everyone is interested in using ebay, but that doesn't automatically make them a scammer. I don't think it's right to make established members post an auction if they don't want to. In general, it's not the people with long standing reputations and good trader ratings that will suddenly start scamming people (I know that does happen sometimes, but it's not the norm). Forcing those members to post an auction wouldn't really help prevent scamming. It's the new people that you have to watch out for.

The only way to be 100% sure that you won't get scammed is to do everything in person. Anything beyond that is a gamble, calculated or not.

very good point, it was just an idea... didnt know if it would be feasible or not

Seller can sell how/when he wants, same for the buyer. Perks of a free market. Why would anyone want to restrict that is beyond me.

it was just a thought, to give ebay protections to the buyer and sellers

the itrader system is great if people would check out who their buying from...you still have paypal protection for as much as thats worth

it was just a thought, to give ebay protections to the buyer and sellers

Then buy and sell on ebay. Simple as that.

yeah post on ebay so people wont get scammed :bang: :eyes: :buttkick:

Easy guys, it wasn't a bad idea.

I believe crager just put it into effect today or yesterday making it invisible to anyone without 6 months 50 posts

I believe crager just put it into effect today or yesterday making it invisible to anyone without 6 months 50 posts

That's been around forever.

No. Its supposedly anyone new now cannot even see regional ads wtb ads classifieds or anything completely. It's been a topic the past few days.

http://www.ls1tech.com/forums/user-support-resources/1419281-attn-mods-scam-alert.html

Another problem I see with this is I never really thought of the classifieds as an auction (which I hate and why I don't use E bay). On here the seller posts their fair price and then buyers can haggle a little but for the most part if your willing to pay the price you get the part. I would hate it to turn into a "well whoever will give me the most gets it"

Another problem I see with this is I never really thought of the classifieds as an auction (which I hate and why I don't use E bay). On here the seller posts their fair price and then buyers can haggle a little but for the most part if your willing to pay the price you get the part. I would hate it to turn into a "well whoever will give me the most gets it"

I agree; LS1 Tech is not an auction house, nor should it be.

The site founders felt this way too, and it's outlined in the posting rules (see #2 & #3 below):

Site rules or "FAQ" can be found in User Support & Resources (http://www.ls1tech.com/forums/showthread.php?t=697907) and the 50 post/6 month rule (http://www.ls1tech.com/forums/showpost.php?p=6882681&postcount=3).
Failure to follow these rules may result in your threads being locked, deleted, or moved. Depending on the severity of your actions, or frequency of your actions, your user account could be suspended or banned.

1. CONSOLIDATE / ADDING PARTS / PARTS SOLD all of your for sale items into ONE thread. Do not post a separate ad for each item or they may be merged with the improper title which we do not have time to change.
Chose an appropriate title for your thread if you plan to sell parts and add more later on. In the first post you can list more parts and edit a part "sold" so buyers know exactly what to check back for.

2. PRICE IS REQUIRED. We do not permit ads without an asking price for each item. "Best Offer" is not an allowable substitute for posting a price. You may ask for $1 but a price must be listed regardless.

3. EBAY LINKS AND OTHER LINKS. We allow links to ebay ads, but you MUST have a buy-it-now price posted, or an asking price to stop the auction in your ad here (Not just in the link). If it is from another site or from here, do not use a link but post the full text instead with pictures if you have them listed.

4. CITY / STATE / COUNTRY are required info for each ad. Buyers and sellers reserve the rights to privately ask for full contact information on any purchase or sale.

5. PARTS WANTED / WILLING TO TRADE. We have a separate Parts Wanted forum, please post what you are looking for there. "Willing to Trade" should also be posted there. Vehicles also belong in the vehicles for sale forum. Threads posted here of those kind will be deleted.

6. TTT / BUMPING. Do not "TTT" to-the-top or "Bump" your threads to the top of the forum more than ONCE per day. If you do this more than permitted, we may just delete your thread. Be considerate to others, your ad is not any more special than theirs. This includes "Payment sent", "Received Payment" and general chatter.

7. MEMBER FEEDBACK. Do not post member feedback in the classifieds forums. We have a separate "Member Feedback" forum at the bottom of the sales area of the main forum index.

8. SELLER HARASSMENT. If you are not interested in buying something from someone, do not negatively haggle them about the price, or post things that intend to hurt potential sales. Comments should be kept constructive.

9. DIBS. There is no "dibs" calling on this site. Just because you replied first, that does not guarantee you a sale. The item could be listed on several sites, in different forums, in the newspaper, on ebay, etc... so don't call dibs and act like a crybaby if you do not get the sale. Seller reserves all rights to sell or decline a sale to whomever he wishes.

10. NO TWO PARTY OR AT THE SHOP SALES. This means no more "I'm selling for a friend/my Brother/my Cousin" posts and will be deleted immediately. If the seller has parts coming off a car still at a shop and not off the vehicle, you must state you do not know what condition those part(s) is in. Seller assumes all responsibility of anything they post for sale, not the shop or a friend/relative.

11. FRAUD & RISK. Buy and Sell at your own risk. LS1TECH and its staff are not responsible if someone rips you off or doesn't send parts out in a timely manner. This classifieds section is a free service for the community, and it is YOUR responsibility to handle all transactions in a low-risk method. DO NOT contact us if there is a dispute between you and someone else, we are NOT INVOLVED. You can help minimize fraud risk by doing these suggestions:

Pay using www.paypal.com , using a credit card. This way, if a part does not arrive, you can do a charge back through your credit card company.
Always ask for full name, residential address, phone numbers of both buyers and sellers. An honest seller should have no problem disclosing this info to you privately.
If possible, ask for photos of the for sale items. This may help prove they actually have the item to sell. Tell them to stick a piece of paper in the photo that says "LS1TECH" on it, maybe with a date. That prevents them from reusing old photos from someone else's sale.
Shipping things C.O.D. is risky. Try to use UPS, Fedex, or USPS Delivery Confirmation so that you can track shipments. Have someone sign for it if it is expensive.
Ask for references from other members, hopefully from other members who have been registered for longer than one year and are active here.
Use your gut feeling. If something seems too good to be true, or a seller/buyer seems a little shady, don't take the risk.

I've never been burned on tech, but I have been burned on ebay.:lol: Just check out who you are buying from, takes a few seconds, its worth the time.

The time I had issues on ebay I should have checked the detailed feedback. The person was a good ebayer, until about the time I bid on a phone, opps. Should have seen that people were starting to get screwed over.:lol:

That's been around forever.

No, whats been around forever is you cannot POST in a classified ad. You can view them.

Easy guys, it wasn't a bad idea.

Thats a matter of opinion. Anyone who attempts to take the free out of free market is a bad apple.

I believe crager just put it into effect today or yesterday making it invisible to anyone without 6 months 50 posts

Exactly, invisible.

I agree, there are as many scammers on Ebay as anywhere else.

it was just an idea, holy crap...

it was just an idea, holy crap...

No hard feelings.....just cheerful debating:D

After eBay and Paypal fees, the seller is out 12% + listing fees. Screw that.

eBay could add a second level of verification for who a seller is, but it wouldn't be a guarantee.

i think this thread should be locked, it was just a thought, too many people seem to be against it....

i think this thread should be locked,

Agreed.........

Agreed.........

Done.