Generation IV Internal Engine 2005-2014 LS2 | LS3 | LS7 | L92 | LS9

max oil temp

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 05-21-2011, 05:23 AM
  #1  
Teching In
Thread Starter
 
matoakley's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: Hereford
Posts: 24
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default max oil temp

Hi

I have put a standard LS3 in my TVR griffith with MAST ecu. I have oil to water cooler, and ecu has raised max revs to 6800. it is dry sumped.

Car running very well and i am starting to win! However if driven hard on track day or testing, oil temp rises to 130 degrees. Water temp stays at 92.(Oil temp in sump 125)

130 seems a bit high to me. should I be adding another cooler?

Will MAST ecu record very high oil temp as fault.

Many thanks for advice

Matthew
Old 05-21-2011, 05:53 AM
  #2  
TECH Fanatic
iTrader: (3)
 
Orange Juice's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Hamilton Ontario
Posts: 1,214
Received 1 Like on 1 Post

Default

You might want to convert those # into farenheit.
Old 05-21-2011, 06:03 AM
  #3  
Teching In
Thread Starter
 
matoakley's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: Hereford
Posts: 24
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Thank you

Ok. Oil max of 130 is 266F and water temp of 92 is 197F
Old 05-21-2011, 08:41 AM
  #4  
TECH Fanatic
iTrader: (9)
 
1lejohn's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: Pasadena Texas
Posts: 1,318
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts

Default

That seems a little high since you are running a cooler. My car used to see 240 temps with no cooler. I added a forced air cooler and my temps stay around 200-230 now. You might add a fan to your set up. Or don't run a water to oil just an air to oil. The water is adding heat. How big is the cooler and where is it mounted.
Old 05-21-2011, 07:30 PM
  #5  
TECH Enthusiast
iTrader: (12)
 
cbr600rx7's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
Posts: 701
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts

Default

220-240 sounds about right. Not sure if 266 is that bad but with the cooler i would think your oil temps would be a little lower. I think the highest i have ever hit was 250 and that was with no cooler and running the hell out of it for a good 10 minuets strait.
Old 05-22-2011, 03:59 AM
  #6  
Teching In
Thread Starter
 
matoakley's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: Hereford
Posts: 24
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Thank you.
Yes those are my thoughts I would prefer it to be lower but im not sure if 266 will do any harm.
It is a hillclimb car so runs flat out from cold (or as warm as I can get it idling in padock) hence oil water cooler helps to initially heat the oil and is then supposed to keep temp reasonable.
I have no problem with oil temps when hillclimbing or sprinting as runs are short. Using 6800 in each gear seems to be the cause of the heat it is also a relatively new engine perhaps 2000miles( all flat out!)(ecu records 88 hours run time and 610 starts)
The dry sump system may also add a little heat I suppose. Extra coolers also add weight!

So my question remains, is it safe to run good oil this hot and would MAST ecu record excessive heat as a fault?

Many thanks

Matthew

Last edited by matoakley; 05-22-2011 at 04:02 AM. Reason: Add more info
Old 05-22-2011, 02:24 PM
  #7  
TECH Fanatic
iTrader: (6)
 
TurboAv's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Tonopah, AZ
Posts: 1,455
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Default

I don't see a problem with that hot and synthetic oil. It will be a bit thinner at that temp though. What weight oil did your builder recommend with that engine? You may want to talk with them about possibly going with a little higher viscosity.

Edit: I really see no problem if you are changing it often also. I tend to change my oil after a day of racing. Whether I think it needs it or not.
Old 05-23-2011, 04:34 AM
  #8  
TECH Resident
 
rsz288's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: Right here, right now!
Posts: 794
Received 4 Likes on 3 Posts

Default

As TurboAv points out, it depends on what oil.

Mineral...it would be on the way to the graveyard at 130C.

Mobil 1 for example AOK at 170C. Other syns, semi syns, somewhere in the middle. But generally all good to at least 130C.
Old 05-23-2011, 11:11 AM
  #9  
Teching In
Thread Starter
 
matoakley's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: Hereford
Posts: 24
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Generally use Valvoline 5:30 fully synthetic

Engine builder is GM, it was a new crate engine just with drysump and MAST ecu added.

I change oil every 1000miles

Thank you

Matthew
Old 05-24-2011, 12:17 AM
  #10  
TECH Senior Member
iTrader: (18)
 
DONAIMIAN's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2002
Location: NW Houston, TX
Posts: 10,036
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts

Default

Those temps are nothing for synthetic. Both seem to be in line.
Old 05-26-2011, 03:45 PM
  #11  
Teching In
Thread Starter
 
matoakley's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: Hereford
Posts: 24
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Smile

Thank you

I will watch it carefully

Matthew



Quick Reply: max oil temp



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 11:07 PM.