Header wrap help...
06-01-2011, 02:42 PM
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Header wrap help... Is this all I need to get the job done? Any tips or insight from y'all before I tackle this?
http://www.summitracing.com/parts/DEI-010110/
http://www.summitracing.com/parts/DEI-010110/
06-01-2011, 03:10 PM
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1) get a 5gallon bucket of warm water and soak the wrap in it for at least an hour.
2) wear long sleeves and rubber gloves (this has fiberglass in it)
3) there is no such thing as too tight, haha.
4) dont **** yourself when your engine bay is smoking from the wrap cooking in or smelling weird for a while
5) I prefer safety wire over those weak *** metal zip ties.
They actually make a new style wrap that supposedly is better than the old school fiberglass stuff you chose. A friend of mine used it with what looks like good success. it's called lava wrap or something.
http://www.racepartsolutions.com/pro...d=HSP%2D37wrap
2) wear long sleeves and rubber gloves (this has fiberglass in it)
3) there is no such thing as too tight, haha.
4) dont **** yourself when your engine bay is smoking from the wrap cooking in or smelling weird for a while
5) I prefer safety wire over those weak *** metal zip ties.
They actually make a new style wrap that supposedly is better than the old school fiberglass stuff you chose. A friend of mine used it with what looks like good success. it's called lava wrap or something.
http://www.racepartsolutions.com/pro...d=HSP%2D37wrap
06-01-2011, 03:13 PM
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Ive used the Titanium DEI wrap, no need for any coating and it looks great. Id also think about using something like this.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Therm...s#ht_500wt_661
It may help with the heat issues we have with longtubes.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Therm...s#ht_500wt_661
It may help with the heat issues we have with longtubes.
06-01-2011, 03:33 PM
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Honestly, you'll probably want a couple more long ties, but 2" x 50' rolls are just the right amount for what you need. If you can, set the finished headers out in the sun to dry out faster--if you leave them inside, they'll take two days to dry.
By the way, be prepared for the worst mess that you've ever seen (a lot of the black stuff in the wrap comes out in the water and gets everywhere). If you have a deck or patio, wrap the headers outside. Otherwise, put down lots of water-resistant materials (2-3 layers of cardboard works) to avoid ruining your carpet. Wrapping will probably take an hour per header if you do a good job, so it might be a good idea to queue up some TV shows or podcast episodes before you start.
By the way, be prepared for the worst mess that you've ever seen (a lot of the black stuff in the wrap comes out in the water and gets everywhere). If you have a deck or patio, wrap the headers outside. Otherwise, put down lots of water-resistant materials (2-3 layers of cardboard works) to avoid ruining your carpet. Wrapping will probably take an hour per header if you do a good job, so it might be a good idea to queue up some TV shows or podcast episodes before you start.
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06-01-2011, 06:58 PM
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I have heard wrapping a turbo manifold can cause them to crack because it holds in too much heat. But turbos produce a bunch more heat. I think with the heat issues our engine bays have already that header wrap is probably good insurance (esp for our motor mounts...)
06-01-2011, 07:04 PM
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When the positive battery cable melted through my car was completely dead. Had it towed to the dealership for them to troubleshoot. Sure, I could have then had it towed home and done it myself for cheaper but I let them do the work.
When the alternator wire melted through my car was shutting off when I would make a turn or accelerate hard. Again, with electrical issues I go to the dealership and let them do it. I could have done that job myself cheaper but was way easier to let them do it.
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Honestly, you'll probably want a couple more long ties, but 2" x 50' rolls are just the right amount for what you need. If you can, set the finished headers out in the sun to dry out faster--if you leave them inside, they'll take two days to dry.
By the way, be prepared for the worst mess that you've ever seen (a lot of the black stuff in the wrap comes out in the water and gets everywhere). If you have a deck or patio, wrap the headers outside. Otherwise, put down lots of water-resistant materials (2-3 layers of cardboard works) to avoid ruining your carpet. Wrapping will probably take an hour per header if you do a good job, so it might be a good idea to queue up some TV shows or podcast episodes before you start.
By the way, be prepared for the worst mess that you've ever seen (a lot of the black stuff in the wrap comes out in the water and gets everywhere). If you have a deck or patio, wrap the headers outside. Otherwise, put down lots of water-resistant materials (2-3 layers of cardboard works) to avoid ruining your carpet. Wrapping will probably take an hour per header if you do a good job, so it might be a good idea to queue up some TV shows or podcast episodes before you start.
06-01-2011, 09:35 PM
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Exactly, DEI Titanium @ 2ea 50' rolls and .032 safety wire on mine.
No wetting, less mess, higher temp rating, and a really cool carbon fiber-ish look! That last one sold me on my purchase. Now if i could find a way to wrap my seats in it and not itch from the fiberglass while driving around the local schools naked!
No wetting, less mess, higher temp rating, and a really cool carbon fiber-ish look! That last one sold me on my purchase. Now if i could find a way to wrap my seats in it and not itch from the fiberglass while driving around the local schools naked!
06-01-2011, 09:59 PM
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DEI wrap + the DEI SI paint-- after a year 15% of the SI paint has burned off.. I soaked the wrap too. used the same procedure as #2
huge pain in the *** but worth it.. this has deff kept my engine bay temps down - my CS Motor mounts look brand new after 8k and a19hr drive from Fl to NJ. only stopped for fuel
huge pain in the *** but worth it.. this has deff kept my engine bay temps down - my CS Motor mounts look brand new after 8k and a19hr drive from Fl to NJ. only stopped for fuel
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06-02-2011, 06:39 AM
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Thanks guys.
I think this is the stuff to get: http://www.summitracing.com/parts/DEI-010127/
I'll also get 4 sets of these: http://www.summitracing.com/parts/DEI-010202/
I think this is the stuff to get: http://www.summitracing.com/parts/DEI-010127/
I'll also get 4 sets of these: http://www.summitracing.com/parts/DEI-010202/
06-02-2011, 09:59 AM
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Truth is a non-SS header would rust just as fast without wrap as with, if nothing else, the difference is marginal at best. I think this mess got started when people would unwrap their non-SS headers after 5 years and "omg look at the rust!!!..." not taking into account what a set of painted headers would look like without wrap to begin with after 5 years, haha.