Heads/Cam/Stall build -- need advice
06-03-2011, 05:47 PM
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Heads/Cam/Stall build -- need advice hey there guys, im now in the process of piecing together a major mod bump for my DD, just looking to get some advice, ive done tons of reading on cams and purchased the one i felt suits my needs the best, i also just bought valve springs to go with it. i know there is still LOTS more to get, im just moving step by step, im not in a rush to get this all put in. im doing it once, so i want to do it right, just looking to get some guidence from the more experienced members of this board. small side note, my car only has 19k on the clock and it only sees 6k miles a year so its not heavily driven.
Here is what i have so far (just started) :
NSSP cam (230/232 .612 .602 114LSA)
Patriot Gold Valve springs
Ti retainers
Here is a short list of what i have read that im going to need (missing anything?) :
Hardened pushrods (unsure of length, any recommendations?)
Ls7 lifters and new trays, or Morel/Lunati link bar lifters (will Ls7 lifters work well?)
Ls2 timing chain and gears (car has less than 20k so do i still need one?)
New factory oil pump and water pump (same^^)
Rocker trunion upgrade (not sure if needed)
SLP UDP
160* Thermostat
GM headgaskets.
FAST 102
Ported LS2/LS3/LS7 TB
Ported 243s (either WCCH or AI)
ARP head studs.
Coolant and at least one oil change
3200 Circle D or 3600 FTI converter
my goal after this is all said and done is to be at around 445-450whp.
am i missing anything? just looking to get pointed in the right direction for my build, like i said, im in no real hurry so im open for discussion about parts. thanks alot fellas.
Here is what i have so far (just started) :
NSSP cam (230/232 .612 .602 114LSA)
Patriot Gold Valve springs
Ti retainers
Here is a short list of what i have read that im going to need (missing anything?) :
Hardened pushrods (unsure of length, any recommendations?)
Ls7 lifters and new trays, or Morel/Lunati link bar lifters (will Ls7 lifters work well?)
Ls2 timing chain and gears (car has less than 20k so do i still need one?)
New factory oil pump and water pump (same^^)
Rocker trunion upgrade (not sure if needed)
SLP UDP
160* Thermostat
GM headgaskets.
FAST 102
Ported LS2/LS3/LS7 TB
Ported 243s (either WCCH or AI)
ARP head studs.
Coolant and at least one oil change
3200 Circle D or 3600 FTI converter
my goal after this is all said and done is to be at around 445-450whp.
am i missing anything? just looking to get pointed in the right direction for my build, like i said, im in no real hurry so im open for discussion about parts. thanks alot fellas.
06-04-2011, 01:06 AM
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I would just port your oil pump, and if your already that far into it I would upgrade timing chain. It would suck to wreck something just because you cheaped out on a 100 dollar timing set. Ls7 lifters will do the trick, im using them with the stock lifter trays. Also I didnt see any mention of rod bolt upgrade?? A must in my opinion. Sounds like a cool project though ( if only it had a t56 
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I would just port your oil pump, and if your already that far into it I would upgrade timing chain. It would suck to wreck something just because you cheaped out on a 100 dollar timing set. Ls7 lifters will do the trick, im using them with the stock lifter trays. Also I didnt see any mention of rod bolt upgrade?? A must in my opinion. Sounds like a cool project though ( if only it had a t56 )
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06-04-2011, 06:19 AM
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First of all, you made a good selection of the cam for a DD car.
Do you have any bolt-ons on the car right now? cold air intake, headers, exhaust system, gear ratio, fuel pump, injectors....etc?
I'm asking because you will need all of those supporting mods to reach your goal. I think that it's better if you go with a high pressure oil bump like Melling.
Have you decided on your engine compression ratio? In other words, are you going to mill your heads or use a thinner head gasket?
With your targeted level of power, I don't think that upgrading rod bolts is required.
With your cam and ported 243 heads by a reputable company, I don't think that reaching 450 rwhp will be hard at all.
Good luck with your build.
Do you have any bolt-ons on the car right now? cold air intake, headers, exhaust system, gear ratio, fuel pump, injectors....etc?
I'm asking because you will need all of those supporting mods to reach your goal. I think that it's better if you go with a high pressure oil bump like Melling.
Have you decided on your engine compression ratio? In other words, are you going to mill your heads or use a thinner head gasket?
With your targeted level of power, I don't think that upgrading rod bolts is required.
With your cam and ported 243 heads by a reputable company, I don't think that reaching 450 rwhp will be hard at all.
Good luck with your build.
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First of all, you made a good selection of the cam for a DD car.
Do you have any bolt-ons on the car right now? cold air intake, headers, exhaust system, gear ratio, fuel pump, injectors....etc?
I'm asking because you will need all of those supporting mods to reach your goal. I think that it's better if you go with a high pressure oil bump like Melling.
Have you decided on your engine compression ratio? In other words, are you going to mill your heads or use a thinner head gasket?
With your targeted level of power, I don't think that upgrading rod bolts is required.
With your cam and ported 243 heads by a reputable company, I don't think that reaching 450 rwhp will be hard at all.
Good luck with your build.
Do you have any bolt-ons on the car right now? cold air intake, headers, exhaust system, gear ratio, fuel pump, injectors....etc?
I'm asking because you will need all of those supporting mods to reach your goal. I think that it's better if you go with a high pressure oil bump like Melling.
Have you decided on your engine compression ratio? In other words, are you going to mill your heads or use a thinner head gasket?
With your targeted level of power, I don't think that upgrading rod bolts is required.
With your cam and ported 243 heads by a reputable company, I don't think that reaching 450 rwhp will be hard at all.
Good luck with your build.
thanks for the advice man!
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bump from the dead!
im heavily considering doing an LS3 top end for my build, i understand that PTV clearance will be tight and that flycutting may be required. aside from these, will this cams traditional split work be a problem for making power? i really like this cam because of its power and drivability combo, i really like the cost/hp ratio of the LS3 top end.....will both of these work together to get a solid 450 whp??
im heavily considering doing an LS3 top end for my build, i understand that PTV clearance will be tight and that flycutting may be required. aside from these, will this cams traditional split work be a problem for making power? i really like this cam because of its power and drivability combo, i really like the cost/hp ratio of the LS3 top end.....will both of these work together to get a solid 450 whp??
