Gen 5 Camaro External Bolt-On Tech - Seems sluggish down low




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glennster
06-14-2011, 08:58 PM
200 miles so far and did a 1-2-3-4 today at WOT. Was surprised by the below 4k lack of pull but freight trains up high. Maybe just tight, I'll give it at least 500 miles before wailing to hard or this needs driven different then our old 2000 Z28.


Wesmanw02
06-14-2011, 11:08 PM
200 miles so far and did a 1-2-3-4 today at WOT. Was surprised by the below 4k lack of pull but freight trains up high. Maybe just tight, I'll give it at least 500 miles before wailing to hard or this needs driven different then our old 2000 Z28.

I haven't driven a new SS, but remember you're carrying around a lot of weight, that can make it feel slightly sliggish down low. Up top the power takes over and you don't notice it as much.

I recently drove a new 2011 5.0 mustang, wasn't very impressed with the low or mid-range power at all. It was plenty smooth and sounded great, just didn't set you in the seat at all. All the power in those new 5.0's is on the top end, hence the 7K redline. For street driving I prefer to have more low end and mid range power though.

blk/slvr02ss
08-07-2011, 09:27 AM
Torque Management holds u back alot in the Camaro plus the weight but even my Vette comes on slow then really pulls hard top end !


JUICED1
08-18-2011, 08:51 AM
Give it some break in miles a tuner and maybe some headers!! :D
The torque management is a bummer but a Superchips tune can even get ride of that.

YO-EL
12-04-2011, 01:53 PM
Have you read about the fuse pull? #5 & #20 overnight to offest possible low octane gas from the factory?

Apparently, the few gallons of 87 from the factory put the car in the low octane table..
Won't automatically reset. Even if you used 93 on the first fill up, the computer STAYS in low octane table until its reset manually..

Pull #5 & #20 let sit overnight, insert them, & you'll be in the high octane table.
Should see a big difference in performance..

2SSRSinBama
12-04-2011, 06:15 PM
I think that is for the L99s

YO-EL
12-04-2011, 06:20 PM
Yep, sorry about that.. Didn't see he had LS3

glennster
12-24-2011, 08:36 AM
Just had to loosen up and learn to slip the clutch at the track. Runs easy high 12's at at or over 111. Just added long tubes/off road pipes and getting tuned in the spring. Love the car.

AJG383
12-24-2011, 11:12 AM
The fuse pull will work with the LS3 also, if you have had low octane gas in the tank. I found that after about a few thousand miles and several oil changes the LS3 really woke up. For low end torque I can strongly recommend 4.10's. The car is a whole new animal after that. Headers also, but then you are hooked on mods.

JHL88
12-24-2011, 08:34 PM
id do the fuse pull like others have mentioned with a fresh tank of 91/93 octane with no ethanol if you can find a station that sells it. it also takes about 1500-2000 miles for these cars to start really running good. i know, mine did the same thing

glennster
12-24-2011, 10:05 PM
Did the fuse pull a while back and really felt no difference. I'm about 900 miles now and dumped the break in oil at 500 miles. At 300 miles it ran a string of 13 teens at 109-110 and at 600 miles with 3500 and a clutch slip to keep the RPM up I went 13.02/12.86 and then 12.75, MPH was 110.9-111.3.

JHL88
12-24-2011, 10:33 PM
you ran a 12.75... i say your car is running just fine :)

2SSRSinBama
12-24-2011, 11:04 PM
I know what he is talking about though, if you ride in a 4th gen and then get in a 5th gen.... it just seems like the 5th gen lacks the "throw you in the back of the seat" pull of the 4th gen... its not slower by means you just don't get the "feel" that you get at WOT in a 4th gen...

Dark SS
12-25-2011, 01:48 AM
I know what he is talking about though, if you ride in a 4th gen and then get in a 5th gen.... it just seems like the 5th gen lacks the "throw you in the back of the seat" pull of the 4th gen... its not slower by means you just don't get the "feel" that you get at WOT in a 4th gen...

Yup, same thing here.

MI-Z/28
12-25-2011, 12:56 PM
12.75 @ 110mph bone stock. My God, these 5th Gens sure are slow! :eyes: :lol:

Good run!

ZTwentyAteU
12-26-2011, 01:12 AM
Its not really slow, your talking about a rattle trap 4th gen vs a tight and refined 5th gen.

I had the same though when I had a 5th gen, and my buddies 600 all motor RWHP 5th gen seemed tame compared to my 425hp DD 4th gen I had at the same time..Its like riding in a honda at 100 and riding in a benz at 100...its all in your mind

Midnight00SS
02-13-2012, 11:49 AM
The fuse pull will work with the LS3 also, if you have had low octane gas in the tank. I found that after about a few thousand miles and several oil changes the LS3 really woke up. For low end torque I can strongly recommend 4.10's. The car is a whole new animal after that. Headers also, but then you are hooked on mods.

Did the fuse pull a while back and really felt no difference. I'm about 900 miles now and dumped the break in oil at 500 miles. At 300 miles it ran a string of 13 teens at 109-110 and at 600 miles with 3500 and a clutch slip to keep the RPM up I went 13.02/12.86 and then 12.75, MPH was 110.9-111.3.

So when i get my 2012 SS LS3 will this fuse pull thing work or is a waste of time? wuts the compression ratio on these cars?

and wut do u mean by putting breaking in oil in them? i never heard of that before?

AJG383
02-25-2012, 10:22 AM
So when i get my 2012 SS LS3 will this fuse pull thing work or is a waste of time? wuts the compression ratio on these cars?

and wut do u mean by putting breaking in oil in them? i never heard of that before?

On a new car, you might need a fuse pull if your dealer puts a tank of mid or low octane gas in you tank. The LS3 has a compression of about 10.7:1. Your car comes with Mobil 1 in the engine. You should change it after about 500-1000 miles after you break her in.

Midnight00SS
02-27-2012, 09:18 AM
On a new car, you might need a fuse pull if your dealer puts a tank of mid or low octane gas in you tank. The LS3 has a compression of about 10.7:1. Your car comes with Mobil 1 in the engine. You should change it after about 500-1000 miles after you break her in.

ok cool, which fuse numbers do i pull? and it wont hurt anything or set any codes off?

AJG383
02-27-2012, 10:22 AM
http://http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=38964The #5 and #20 fuse as shown in this link.

Midnight00SS
02-27-2012, 11:35 AM
http://http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=38964The #5 and #20 fuse as shown in this link.

links not working

AJG383
02-27-2012, 02:37 PM
Sorry, go on C5 and do a search for fuse pull and you will find it.

Midnight00SS
02-29-2012, 06:48 AM
Sorry, go on C5 and do a search for fuse pull and you will find it.

ok thanks

Mongoose Z-71
05-28-2012, 10:55 AM
Heres the corrected link

http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=38964

TheNewCzar
06-11-2012, 08:02 PM
My 2011 L99 seemed sluggish at first but not as bad now. First I put on a CAI and that seemed to help high end but low end was still sluggish. I then read about the air meter issues with some versions. I pulled my air meter and found it to the one of the "weak" versions. When I replaced with a known good air meter the sluggish feel decreased dramatically. Then I installed the adm cold air scoop and things improved more. The car now feels "jumpy" like my 2000 WS6.

DietCoke
06-11-2012, 09:04 PM
My 2011 L99 seemed sluggish at first but not as bad now. First I put on a CAI and that seemed to help high end but low end was still sluggish. I then read about the air meter issues with some versions. I pulled my air meter and found it to the one of the "weak" versions. When I replaced with a known good air meter the sluggish feel decreased dramatically. Then I installed the adm cold air scoop and things improved more. The car now feels "jumpy" like my 2000 WS6.

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