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i want to go with a cc503 cam olny for my DD. what all new parts will i need for the swap? im trying to keep everything stock i can. dont have the $ for all supporting changes that help.
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with the cc503 you could get the comp hardened pushrods for 40$, Pick your own 1.6 rockers but comp pro mags are good, Valve springs you will need, OEM replacement timing chain, gaskets of sorts. Should do lifters as well. And then a mail order tune.
Heres how i would budget it...
pushrods - 50$
valve springs - 250$
Camshaft- 275$
timing chain - 35$
Mail Order Tune - 200$
Rocker arms- 275$
Gaskets + fluids - 125$
Misc (tools and broken stuffs)- 150$
That comes out to 1360$ if i did my math right, and yes its prices plus some, But trust me, you will never stay within a budget. Its way to easy and sometimes out of your control to go over budget.
If you dont have 1500$ to spare, dont do it. You wont get out of it cheap if you want to do it right, and when it comes to this sort of labor, you dont want to do it twice.
Obviously you can get used parts, but they need to be available. During my entire build i found no used parts, and deffinetly no used parts when i needed them.
Heres how i would budget it...
pushrods - 50$
valve springs - 250$
Camshaft- 275$
timing chain - 35$
Mail Order Tune - 200$
Rocker arms- 275$
Gaskets + fluids - 125$
Misc (tools and broken stuffs)- 150$
That comes out to 1360$ if i did my math right, and yes its prices plus some, But trust me, you will never stay within a budget. Its way to easy and sometimes out of your control to go over budget.
If you dont have 1500$ to spare, dont do it. You wont get out of it cheap if you want to do it right, and when it comes to this sort of labor, you dont want to do it twice.
Obviously you can get used parts, but they need to be available. During my entire build i found no used parts, and deffinetly no used parts when i needed them.
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Thats what I was afraid of. My budget is the least I can speit, but I don't want to half *** it. Mods are GmmG CB, highflow y pipe and cat, moroso csi, trans go hd2.
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Or yea, rocker studs too, those are another 40$ lol. Plus plugs and wires if you havent done em.
Alot of the over spending comes from the "might as well why im in there" colum mixed with the "Another trip to the parts store" colum.
IF you can get deals on the parts then you might not be as bad off. Im just giving the numbers off of what i spent (or close to it). I went with high end stuff tho so i dont know prices of the stuff that works for the cc503. Valve springs could be half of that, i dont know.
I do know that its extremly hard to find a used CC503.
Alot of the over spending comes from the "might as well why im in there" colum mixed with the "Another trip to the parts store" colum.
IF you can get deals on the parts then you might not be as bad off. Im just giving the numbers off of what i spent (or close to it). I went with high end stuff tho so i dont know prices of the stuff that works for the cc503. Valve springs could be half of that, i dont know.
I do know that its extremly hard to find a used CC503.
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X2 ive spent the last 3 months slowly getting parts together to do a cam swap and by the time i realized how much it actually takes to do i was already committed. looking back all that $ could have a made a sweet bolt on car with suspension... or maybe even fixed the hole in my fender
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I don't have time for my car to be down for headers cause it's my DD it's all I have I figured if I was gonna put my self in that position I wrould go bigger power gain instead of 20-25 from headers.
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Also if you dont have the $$ or time right now, wait till you have the money and time, do it right the first time. If not you will most likely be dissapointed.
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I drove my car with the lunati voodoo 60121 (similar to CC503) with stock manifolds, borla y-pipe, gutted cat and a flowmaster muffler for 6 months before I upgraded the whole exhaust to pacesetter mid-tubes and magnaflow catback; honestly the gains were minimal, I would guess 10-20 hp maybe....headers and magnaflow actually made my car more quiet than before. IMO the stock Y-pipe is the bigger restriction than the manifolds themselves but regardless headers are better especially once your revving to 6500 RPM with a cam. My point is, there is no absolutely right or wrong way to mod your car...there are BETTER more financially efficient and easier ways to do it which is what people are saying but that's up to you to pick what mods and what order to put them on.
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If I understood this right, you're saying that your car would be down for less time doing a cam install rather than headers?
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What I said was if my car is gonna be down I'd rather do a can swap than headers because I figured it would be worth the time down from hp gain of cam over headers, but i seem to be mistaken.
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Get a stall and headers first. The cost of both will be equal to a cam swap, easier to do and give you considerably better gains than the cam on stock manifolds would.