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Old 07-08-2011, 03:39 PM
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Default 1997 Cobra vs 1994 Z28 **VIDEO**

Both cars have mild bolt-on setups. The Cobra is a stick car (obviously) and the Z28 is an automatic. The Z28 also has an electric waterpump, which I forgot to add to the mod list in the video.

The Cobra belongs to dvj38 on SVTP and the Z28 is my brother's.

As usual, I appologize for the watermark and for the inevitable hatred of the music.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_KUbtaFNdQw

Thanks for watching, guys!

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I actually thought the cobra would do better since gears really wakes those up. Mods are about similar. The camaro did really well and i dont see that color often especially were i live, nice camaro.
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Originally Posted by karpetcm
I actually thought the cobra would do better since gears really wakes those up. Mods are about similar. The camaro did really well and i dont see that color often especially were i live, nice camaro.
The driver of the Cobra was definitely counting on being able to get a better launch. Also, with better shifting he would have pulled harder up top. He just got the car back on the road, so once he gets some practice with it we'll set up a rematch.

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Good kills/ death. The third run reallys shows the huge dead spot at 35 for the Camaro. loses a car at 35 but stays even at 45 lol I have 2.93s in mine and anything in the high 30s or low 40s is just awful for me.
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Great runs! Outcome expected. Would have been nice to see how a 6spd LT1 would of done on the roll races.

This reminds me of a thread a while back where a few guys were arguing with me that a mild bolt-on/geared 96-98 Cobra was a drivers race for a bolt-on LS1, and that an LT1 was no match - not even on the radar. I wonder if F8L Byte, It'llrun, Bitemark and the rest of them will chime and explain what happened in this case...
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I would love to see how a 6-speed LT1 would do, but there are very few around here.

I do think that the Cobra would have walked out maybe another car or so with better driving, but I also think that a 6-speed LT1 would be a bit faster from a roll than the A4.
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Agreed. A4s aren't as stout from a roll of course. Now a 6M LT1 w/ 4.10s is a different story.
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I did a roll race with a friend of mine a long time ago when i had a 93 Z28 M6 full bolt ons with 4.10's against his auto with exhuast and intake, both cars being LT1's. Gave him every roll mph he wanted and the outcome was bad. Funny thing was when i drove his car i thought damn this thing pulls and when it downshift it hits hard, i didnt think it was going to be that bad. One race we went from about 25mph and by the time i got to 95-100 i had 4-5 cars. On the other hand he gave me a good run from 0-50-55mph, had about 1- 1 1/2 cars. Car pulls off the line clean, i thought he would lag a bit with the 2.73's but i guess i really suck with 60ft anyway.
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good runs!
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Yeah. My brothers old 2.73 geared A4 ran good off the line too. The rear 315's wouldnt spin much if any at all so he could literally stab and go, while the car in the other lane sat there hunting for traction. Haha
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Originally Posted by Redfire 03
Yeah. My brothers old 2.73 geared A4 ran good off the line too. The rear 315's wouldnt spin much if any at all so he could literally stab and go, while the car in the other lane sat there hunting for traction. Haha
I love going from a stop in mine. Unless your a totaly jerk and smash it, it wont spin. Most things that have raced me from a stop spin and I'm on old 255 street tires lol Can't wait for DRs and a stall.

Then I hit second and wonder why my cars still slow...45-90ish...
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2.73's are definitely a hinderance. My brother's car ran 14.33 @ 98.0 mph (1675 DA) all stock with 2.73's. The first thing I did to the car was swap in a 3.42 rear from a 6-speed LS1. By comparison, my 1994 Trans Am (A4) ran 14.1 @ 97 mph stock, but with 3.23's.
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Originally Posted by Redfire 03
Great runs! Outcome expected. Would have been nice to see how a 6spd LT1 would of done on the roll races.

This reminds me of a thread a while back where a few guys were arguing with me that a mild bolt-on/geared 96-98 Cobra was a drivers race for a bolt-on LS1, and that an LT1 was no match - not even on the radar. I wonder if F8L Byte, It'llrun, Bitemark and the rest of them will chime and explain what happened in this case...
If I recall, most people were saying that a geared/bolt-on Cobra would be a driver's race against most bolt-on LS1 F-bodies in the 1/4 mile. As a rule, Mustangs have usually been strongest from a stop. Though everybody has jokes, I don't think anybody would deny that bolt-on LT1s are strong cars.
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Originally Posted by ZFreie
I love going from a stop in mine. Unless your a totaly jerk and smash it, it wont spin. Most things that have raced me from a stop spin and I'm on old 255 street tires lol Can't wait for DRs and a stall.

Then I hit second and wonder why my cars still slow...45-90ish...
On the '93s, from a roll the 2.73 cars have a 'sweet spot' right around 30-35 ish, where if you yank it from D to 1st gear position (which will actually be hidden on a GU2 car) @ WOT, it will hit - HARD! Get it into 2nd before you hit the limiter and it will pull much harder than rolling out in 'D' and letting it shift on its own. Thats the good thing about the 700R4(4L60) in '92/93...they will shift on command with little to no delay.
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I'm not sure about the 93's, but on the 94+ cars that came with 2.73's, you had to cut off some kind of stop to manually downshift it into 1st gear.
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IMO a 96-98 Cobra with bolt ons is a good race against a bolt on LT1 and a 99-01 Cobra with bolt ons is a good race with a bolt on LS1 (saything this last part from my own experience)
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Originally Posted by Irunelevens
If I recall, most people were saying that a geared/bolt-on Cobra would be a driver's race against most bolt-on LS1 F-bodies in the 1/4 mile. As a rule, Mustangs have usually been strongest from a stop. Though everybody has jokes, I don't think anybody would deny that bolt-on LT1s are strong cars.
That's a pretty ignorant statement to make when F-bodies have put out quicker 0-60 and quarter-mile times both stock for stock and bolt-on for bolt-on, from 1993 to the end of its production in 2002.

The part about the drivers race with a bolt-on LS1 is just comical.
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Good runs. Time for a stall in the ol' LTjuan.
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man, nice runs.
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Originally Posted by Redfire 03
That's a pretty ignorant statement to make when F-bodies have put out quicker 0-60 and quarter-mile times both stock for stock and bolt-on for bolt-on, from 1993 to the end of its production in 2002.
Maybe he's talking launching harder? That's what I've always thought of about stangs. Can launch much harder off that than the 10 bolt (on the track), but other than that, I can't see what Irun14s is saying. Mustangs like to stick around until ~50 then die off quick.

The part about the drivers race with a bolt-on LS1 is just comical.
Eh, maybe a very well driven Cobra vs a non-headered LS1, I could see it. Definitely can see it against a 2.73 LS1, even one with headers. My buddy's was a totally ******* dog with those gears.


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