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Old 07-11-2011, 04:52 PM
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Default How to set up ABS and E Brake to 9"

This is what im considering at a local buy-----
Moser 9" p/c black but has had lca relos and BMR arb brackets welded on after the rear was completed so they aren't coated at all, just cosmetics obviously. Rear is STOCK WIDTH, TRU-TRAC DIF, 4.11's with about 2000 miles on them and is Quiet! Nodular center, 31 spline and will come with backing plates but is not set up for abs or parking brake. All you will need is your T'bolts. Also has 1/2" studs.


How much/what would i have to do to set it up for ABS and E brake?
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Do you need it set up for just ABS, or do you also have traction control? Bob
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if the car is just ABS and not equipped w/ traction control we have a retrofit kit available to make the abs kit work w/o major mods to the rearend or center section. We also have the necessary brackets and tabs available to hook up your e-brake cables and brake hoses. call us if you are needing these items.
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My car has traction control too. however the rear i am looking at isnt set up for that. Could you pm me the price of that kit please.
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Originally Posted by BashamWS6
My car has traction control too. however the rear i am looking at isnt set up for that. Could you pm me the price of that kit please.
For traction control you need to have your axles machined to install the reluctor rings on them. You can send your axles to Moser in Portland to have them machined. 260 726-6689 is their ph#. Bob
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Originally Posted by BashamWS6
My car has traction control too. however the rear i am looking at isnt set up for that. Could you pm me the price of that kit please.
If you want to keep the 4-channel ABS/TC, it will be some $$$. It will involve R&R both axles, getting and pressing on reluctor rings and new brake backing plates (unless the non-TC ones can be drilled-not sure about this). Definitley refer to the sponsers posting to this thread, Brute Speed & Midwest ... they do this every day!
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Originally Posted by Bob@BruteSpeed
For traction control you need to have your axles machined to install the reluctor rings on them. You can send your axles to Moser in Portland to have them machined. 260 726-6689 is their ph#. Bob
See ... posted before I finished typing my post!

I don't know how important the ABS/TC system is to you or if your WS6 is a DD, but since I am running a spool, a reluctor ring for my 3-channel (ABS only-single ring mounts on the carrier) SS was not possible, I am running with my "ABS INOP" light on and no ABS.

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Traction control is worthless anyways... So ill probably just delete it. I don use it
My ebrake and abs i definantly want
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Unfortunately for you, you cannot do without TC and keep the ABS on a 4-channel car unless you do it electronically somehow with the switch. The ABS reads from the same place as the TC (reluctor ring on each axle at the brake backing plate) and controls both ABS and TC with a seperate brake line from the module to each rear brake.
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http://shop.brutespeed.com/Brute-Spe...nformation.htm

The above link shows the locations of both ABS and ABS/TCS. Bob
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Originally Posted by Bob@BruteSpeed
http://shop.brutespeed.com/Brute-Spe...nformation.htm

The above link shows the locations of both ABS and ABS/TCS. Bob
This is a great link, but know, you cannot put an ABS-only (3-channel) REAR in an ABS/TC (4-channel) CAR and vice versa, you cannot put a ABS/TC (4-channel) REAR in a ABS-only (3-channel) CAR. Let me qualify this statement a little .... and expect the systems to work.
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BashamWS6 bottom line is you would be best to leave the rear end as is or keep shopping for one that better suits your needs. You will be investing a bunch of time and even worse money to transfer this particular rear end to do what you want from it.
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Originally Posted by MidwestChassis
BashamWS6 bottom line is you would be best to leave the rear end as is or keep shopping for one that better suits your needs. You will be investing a bunch of time and even worse money to transfer this particular rear end to do what you want from it.
Thats what i started thinking.
So looks like i will probably be calling both you and bob to get some prices.
4-channel 9" with approx 4.11s
This will see a 3.5hr trip at 75-80mph about 4 times a month so we may go a little Lower on the gears ....
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Originally Posted by BashamWS6
Thats what i started thinking.
So looks like i will probably be calling both you and bob to get some prices.
4-channel 9" with approx 4.11s
This will see a 3.5hr trip at 75-80mph about 4 times a month so we may go a little Lower on the gears ....
No problem as the both of us can get you into something. With our rear end we can set you up with our rebuildable billet clutch posi and a long arm and keep the vehicle as close to stock feeling as possible.
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Originally Posted by BashamWS6
Thats what i started thinking.
So looks like i will probably be calling both you and bob to get some prices.
4-channel 9" with approx 4.11s
This will see a 3.5hr trip at 75-80mph about 4 times a month so we may go a little Lower on the gears ....
http://shop.brutespeed.com/Moser-9-I...c-Truetrac.htm

The Moser nine inch with a Trac-Loc is what I would go with for your car. The 4 channel ABS/TCS is an option. These rears ship out just two days after the order is received. 3.75 gears may be the way to go since you see some long trips with your car. Let me know if you have any questions. Bob
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i am somewhat new. but this is what a member told me to go with

housing backbrace (may be overkill)
additional Meziere rear side filler cap assy
4 channel abs axle mod
billet clutch type posi(rebuildable)
black powdercoating on the rear and red on componenets (for looks obviously but i like it)
PST 3.5" aluminum driveshaft(M6)
completely assembled rearend ready to bolt-in
4.11 Yukon gear
(This Guy Had a MWC Fab9)

Also i was told the full length torque arm and polybushing mounts would help keep the ride smooth.
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Originally Posted by BashamWS6
i am somewhat new. but this is what a member told me to go with

housing backbrace (may be overkill)
additional Meziere rear side filler cap assy
4 channel abs axle mod
billet clutch type posi(rebuildable)
black powdercoating on the rear and red on componenets (for looks obviously but i like it)
PST 3.5" aluminum driveshaft(M6)
completely assembled rearend ready to bolt-in
4.11 Yukon gear
(This Guy Had a MWC Fab9)

Also i was told the full length torque arm and polybushing mounts would help keep the ride smooth.
Well I can help you with that for sure and we can definitely mix match powder colors and it does look good doing so. Just one more custom touch that can be done with a MWC rear end.

I will send you a PM with all the details.
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Originally Posted by BashamWS6
i am somewhat new. but this is what a member told me to go with

housing backbrace (may be overkill)
additional Meziere rear side filler cap assy
4 channel abs axle mod
billet clutch type posi(rebuildable)
black powdercoating on the rear and red on componenets (for looks obviously but i like it)
PST 3.5" aluminum driveshaft(M6)
completely assembled rearend ready to bolt-in
4.11 Yukon gear
(This Guy Had a MWC Fab9)

Also i was told the full length torque arm and polybushing mounts would help keep the ride smooth.
If you're going with a standard Moser 9 inch, you won't need a backbrace. I recommend a backbrace if you go with a fabricated 9 inch. Take a look at the fabricated nine inch that Moser makes, it is a impressive unit that ships out in two days. http://shop.brutespeed.com/Moser-M9-...y-Complete.htm Bob
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well both are reputible companies. no lie there so the only thing that will separate is pricing. and there is a $400 difference (i wont say due to thread rules)
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well both are reputible companies. no lie there so the only thing that will separate is pricing. and there is a $400 difference (i wont say due to thread rules)
Yes, both build a good rear. The Moser fabricated rear is more money but the customer gets it several months sooner. Either one though gets you a good rear. Bob
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