Fenris Ulf

Wet or Dry? How are the Darton's holding up?

Fly By

Iron blocks dont leak <img border="0" title="" alt="[Razz]" src="gr_images/icons/tongue.gif" /> J/K

The Dartons have an Oring issue from what they told me. There were 2 orings where they went into the block at the base of the sleeve. They have since added another oring.

Think about it: How long will it take those Orings to dry-rot, and begin leaking? No one seems to bring up this point. I have before, but no one seemed to care.

Good luck with whatever you chooose! <img border="0" alt="[cheers]" title="" src="graemlins/gr_cheers.gif" />

The BeaSSt

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We have had zero problems with this block.

Dave
SAM 436
www.thebeasst.com

Fenris Ulf

I also heard from another source that there were some issues still to be sorted out with the wet sleave. Does anyone else have some info?

The BeaSSt

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</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by Fenris Ulf:
<strong> I also heard from another source that there were some issues still to be sorted out with the wet sleave. Does anyone else have some info? </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Yep, I have heard the same thing from a very reliable source. We have a dry sleave setup in ours. I have heard of problems with delivery among other things on the wet ones.

Dave
SAM 436
www.thebeasst.com

JPR

We did 4 dry sleeved blocks and trashed 2 of them. Were going to use them for the Darton system, yes, cutting out brand new sleeves that were just installed, the reason being (pulls up soap box) is becuse the Cometic gaskets were all leaking, 4 sets and 1 single to be exact, so I though, well, if I'm going to sell 382+ cubed blocks out of state or anywhere for that matter, I must have a sure fire way to make sure the blocks/gaskets don't leak at all! this was before I knew about the Fel Pro 1041's mind you. So, I brought 1 of the leakers back, installed the 1041's and all is well? seems to be at this time. So, We went over to the Darton sleeve process in the mean time because I was told by Darton that they have there own style head gaskets, better more consistant bores and the modular fit, and a wider selection of sizes blah blah. I saw a few of them on the forum doing well, now it seems I shot myself in the foot again? I didn't know there was an "O" ring sealing problem with them especially hearing "Oh there the best over bore Technology as of yet for the LSx's to date" so I guess it's another round of trial and error for us again? I have my own direction I am going to try with 1 core block in respect to over boring and it can't be any worse than what we just went through. Were installing the one Darton block next week and I will give an update.

Joe.

<small>[ February 28, 2003, 05:42 PM: Message edited by: JPR ]</small>

rob-ss

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by JPR:
<strong> Were installing the one Darton block next week and I will give an update.

Joe. </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Joe, this is Rob from Maryland. I talked to you about a 382 all bore recently. Make sure you post your results. I'm saving my pennies <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="gr_images/icons/wink.gif" />

Fly By

Correct me if im wrong, but NO one is using the Integrated Deck sleeve setup correct? no one that I heard had this setup at all as of december. Ligenfelter had one that was supposed to go on the dyno. Im sure that we would of heard about the results if they were positive. Maybe with Johns condition things got put on hold. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Confused]" src="images/icons/confused.gif" />

JPR

When you say intergrated block set-up, I am assumming your talking about the Darton system, yes, there are quite a few out there. One forum member is runing in the low low 10's with a Darton 382 solid roller, his name escapes me right now though, just do a search I guess.

Hey Rob, thanks! the 382 dry sleeved blocks are doing fine NOW, but it was quite a bit of heart ache in the beginning, learning curve I guess, I fixed them and there fine now. I have the one 382 all bore going back on the dyno with QTP headers/QTP ORP along with an upgraded 232/236 full edit session next week, I think we can get around 460+ RWH through a 33 splined 4.10 12 bolt/steel drive shaft, were not off that far right now, we will see.

Joe.

<small>[ February 28, 2003, 11:02 PM: Message edited by: JPR ]</small>

Fly By

Joe, you are talking about this? <img src="http://www.dartonsleeves.com/images/LS-1,-ecotec-blocks.jpg" alt=" - " />

AFAIK, I thought that no one had this setup in a car yet <img border="0" title="" alt="[Confused]" src="images/icons/confused.gif" />

JPR

Yes, Thats the Darton wet sleeve system.

JS

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I believe Cartek has the Darton "MID" sleeved blocks.Give them a call for pricing and info.

JS

Fenris Ulf

BeaSSt, is SAM doing the sleaving now? How consistent is their process?

Any updates JPR?

Fenris Ulf

TTT

LQ4somona

Is the C5R block out of your price range? I looked into every aspect of the resleeved blocks and have decided that the only way to go is to run this block. D**m pricey though, but it will be worth it. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="gr_grin.gif" />

Fenris Ulf

The C5R block is out of the question. I would sooner follow in Harlan's footsteps than pay that much money for increased displacement.

Does anyone have the sleaving thing down?

Richard@WCCH

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FWIW guys I spoke to a guy named Reese at MTI Racing in Marietta, GA. Phone number is (770)919-7774. He's got a BUNCH of oversized sleeved blocks in stock. He's using sleeeves from a company called Advanced Sleeve in Ohio. I believe he said that the maximum bore size available is 4.060". I'm not a cheerleader of theirs, but thought I'd pass the info to anyone who's interested.

Cheers,
Richard <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="gr_stretch.gif" />

Fenris Ulf

If I was going 4.060" the iron block would be a better choice, but thanks for the info.