Chevrolet Performance LSX Challenge Series and LSX Shootout - Please go to NMCA " lounge" board to vote below

When we began the 2011 LSX Rumble campaign qualifying was to be based upon 3 qualfying rounds closest to index pairing.

Unfortunately some LSX Rumble competitotrs did not have the correct index after first round qualifyiing at first race in Bradenton so the rules were changed mid stream to a similarity of NMRA Super Stang which is no qualfying at all until AFTER first round eliminations.

For me it sure does suck to sit around for two days test and tuning while everyone else is qualifying.

I challenge the NMCA to change back to original 2011 LSX Rumble rules for INDY and RETURN qualfying back to 3 qualifying rounds closest to index similar to NMCA LM/EFI and LSX/CAM as originally written for 2011 and at least make Thursday Friday and Saturday interesting for LSX Rumble at INDY same as for LSX Camaro.

Does any other LSX/Rumble participants agree or disagree ?

Thanks for your reponse regardless if you agree or not

I voted to leave it as is, and offer a explanation why.

Working 3 of the first 4 LSX Shootouts, there are PLENTY of racers that have never done that kind of an event, or just index racing in general. I don't have the figures in front of me, but I double checked EVERY SINGLE INDEX with the competitor Sunday morning when they were called to the lanes for first round back in 2009, and there were quite a few changes I had to call up to the tower.

Some of it comes from competitors not used to racing an entire weekend where the performance of your car can change quite a bit, and the time to figure it out is appreciated. Then there are some that haven't done any competitive racing (TNT and grudge nights mostly), and therefore have no real clue what their cars might run on a track they've never been to before.

I've seen the tense looks when I asked a driver for an index in tech inspection, and some even gave me the "you mean I have to tell you a choice now before making a single pass?" Since I've raced for 20 years I don't fall into that category, but for new faces and people to take interest in a bigger event like this, I think you have to make a few exceptions to accommodate them. I even witnessed the slight confusion from a few drivers in Bradenton as well when I was talking with numerous drivers, and I wasn't even working that event.

Why does it suck to test and tune for 2 days versus the qualifying on a sheet other than the points you miss out on? Not busting balls here, but curious.

I understand the points rationale, but hope you can see my side of it as well.

Derek

I would like to see it done exactly as it was done at last year's Shootout at Gateway...but Derek definitely makes a great point above as well.

Being well dialed in with my car, having checked the track's altitude and the weather forecasts for the weekend in detail prior to arriving in there and also having the ability to add/subtract some weight from the car I personally knew exactly where I'd fall in ET. I knew it was one of two numbers and the one I 'tentatively' gave during 'tech in' was in fact the one I ended up running so there was no need to inform the organizers of an ET/class change.

But not everyone knows that so I understand the possible need to do it another way.

But I do still vote for the old system. :burn:

I voted to leave it as is, and offer a explanation why.

Working 3 of the first 4 LSX Shootouts, there are PLENTY of racers that have never done that kind of an event, or just index racing in general. I don't have the figures in front of me, but I double checked EVERY SINGLE INDEX with the competitor Sunday morning when they were called to the lanes for first round back in 2009, and there were quite a few changes I had to call up to the tower.

Some of it comes from competitors not used to racing an entire weekend where the performance of your car can change quite a bit, and the time to figure it out is appreciated. Then there are some that haven't done any competitive racing (TNT and grudge nights mostly), and therefore have no real clue what their cars might run on a track they've never been to before.

I've seen the tense looks when I asked a driver for an index in tech inspection, and some even gave me the "you mean I have to tell you a choice now before making a single pass?" Since I've raced for 20 years I don't fall into that category, but for new faces and people to take interest in a bigger event like this, I think you have to make a few exceptions to accommodate them. I even witnessed the slight confusion from a few drivers in Bradenton as well when I was talking with numerous drivers, and I wasn't even working that event.

Why does it suck to test and tune for 2 days versus the qualifying on a sheet other than the points you miss out on? Not busting balls here, but curious.

I understand the points rationale, but hope you can see my side of it as well.

Derek

Well I agree with this since I fall into that catigory, With gatway and memphis closed the nearest 1/4 (nhra) track is about 200 miles away, so I havent been able to participate in any organized racing. I would love to try the index racing and i would think my car should be close to a 10.5, but like, said, I have no clue what my car will run on a 1/4 track or one that has good prep to say the least. Unfortunatly my car doesnt have a cage to pass tech this year along with a 10 bolt (im driving my car there) ill have to pass on racing this year.

I don't mind the way they currently do it, I was one of the confused racers in bradenton because we'd just got the car together the week before and I had NO idea what it was going to run, so I appreciated the extra time.

I vote to leave it the way it is, because I would imagine there will be a lot of people there that aren't used to racing their car and some TnT passes will help them get better, making competition better

Whats wrong with test and tune but the final test and tune make it qualifying. So you put your index on the last run thats your index and your qualifying pass then do a latter.
I think we did this at Fla this year.

Hope that came out right.