View Full Version : How many full weight F bodys w/o power adders are in the 11's?


ICRAZY6
09-12-2011, 11:31 AM
I almost broke into the 11's yesterday and I was wondering how many other full weight f-bodys are doing it? I had full interior, 3/4 a tank of gas, and even the spare tire in.
R/T .177
60' 1.731
330 5.039
1/8 7.758
MPH 90.10
1000 10.117
1/4 12.099
MPH 114.87

This was my best of 3 runs at Byron Dragway in Byron, IL. Temp was about 85*.

Should I be running faster with the mods in my sig?

Thanks,
Ken

jebuzws6
09-12-2011, 02:47 PM
You should be running mid 11's to low 11's with those mods, i think maybe the DA might have had something to do with it.

Cold06
09-12-2011, 03:54 PM
all thats out of my car is the spare but I weigh over 400lbs, but its a cam'd head lq9

racerrit
09-12-2011, 09:17 PM
My car is full weight cam swap n runs 11.8s all day in the heat

BODUKE
09-12-2011, 09:51 PM
Full weight camaro z here h/c. That temp is a killer for your et. Cooler weather will put you in the 11's.

SalvageZ28
09-12-2011, 10:01 PM
full weight for me. mods are in my sig. 11.5 at 119 last saturday in 85 degree weather.

MNBlade
09-12-2011, 10:50 PM
3655 lbs with me in it and 1/4 tank, running 11.86 at 115 Mph, 1.72 60' with mods in sig.

Our cars are pretty similar minus heads and gears, I would say with good air you will get into 11.5 to 11.6.

wrencher
09-12-2011, 11:04 PM
There's a lot of full weight cars in the 11's.
What tires did you have on there @ Byron?
The strano/koni stuff is great, I run it too but not optimal for the strip :(
Byron hooks pretty good should have 11's easy if you got that 60' down some.

OrgnDonr
09-13-2011, 07:31 AM
Im full weight, cam & intake, no suspension, running 11.7, 1.9 60'.

ICRAZY6
09-13-2011, 09:22 AM
I had MT Et streets on it. I set the tire pressure at 20psi and it didn't seem to spin. I brake stalled it up to 2000 rpm and left on the 3rd light. I'm thinking the DA was 30.05 for the day. Do you think it would of left harder just going off of idle? What should I do to get it launch harder and get my 60' down? Thanks for the help. I'm going to try one more time at the track this year before putting it away for the year.
Ken

ICRAZY6
09-13-2011, 09:23 AM
Oh, would going back to the stock springs help? I still have them, and currently scrap some exhaust getting in and out of the driveway.

projectX
09-13-2011, 09:43 AM
Yeah your car should def be lower 11's it would seem with all those mods.

ICRAZY6
09-13-2011, 10:03 AM
Well if anyone could please give me some insight as to what I need to do to set the car up to get it there please chim in.

01ssreda4
09-18-2011, 12:34 AM
Here's mine, full weight, cam only.

http://ls1tech.com/forums/multimedia-exchange/1420480-updated-two-trips-tnt-pics-vids.html

MYSLOWS6
09-18-2011, 12:12 PM
Full weight no heads or cam here 11.9x's

Looks like your 60' needs to come down a bit

Stippy17
09-18-2011, 12:25 PM
Ive ran a best of 11.76 @ 114.8 and my car still has more in it with better DA, and Ive since done more suspension mods.

Patriot 227cc Heads
224/230 Comp Cams .581/.592
LS6 Intake
Ported Throttle Body
Pacesetter Headers, TSP ORY, Corsa Catback
SS3600 Stall
3.42 Gears
UMI Panhard & Lower Control Arms
26/10.5/16 MT Bias Plys


And now I have a UMI Torque Arm & LCA Relocation Brackets. This year I bought 15" bigs n littles and run 275/50/15 MT Drag Radials. Im also installing an UD pulley as soon as it arrives.

senicalj4579
09-18-2011, 09:49 PM
My 01 ss did a 12.0 112mph full weight but it was in -1000 da. Full exhaust, lid, ssra, ss3600 on hoosier 275 40 17s.
Then I took out about 150lbs and did 12.0 in +500 da. In a couple weeks ill go up and should break 11s.

cookba
09-18-2011, 09:58 PM
ICRAZY6, what is your H/C/I setup?

Dan
09-18-2011, 10:31 PM
A bigger stall & less gas..You need to get that 60ft down

flintwrench69
09-19-2011, 10:50 AM
A bigger stall & less gas..You need to get that 60ft down

A 1.73 60 is not that bad really. I was in the same boat trying to get in the 11s this weekend, if I couldve gotten a 1.7 but my car just wouldnt hook at all.

twizted_creations
09-19-2011, 04:25 PM
I did it on stock 3.23s and a 28" wrinkle wall Mickey tire last time I went to the track. LS6 heads with a bit of work and a baby reverse split cam.

This year I plan on going back with good DA, 28.5 ET streets, and 4.10s, better heads and tune to boot.

Any guestimates?

ICRAZY6
09-20-2011, 08:59 AM
ICRAZY6, what is your H/C/I setup?

I have an older TSP grind for the cam, 231/237 112+2 and Patriot LS6 Stage II heads. As far as intake, I'm running a Fast 90/90. I know that the car has more in it. It maybe my launch technique that I need to work on. 1st pass, I held the car at 1000-1200 rpm to launch, netted me a slower 60' time but 2mph faster at 116mph. The next to times it was about 2000rpm when I launched.

I'm also trying to think if I adjusted my pinion angle when I lowered the car. I plan on putting the are up on jack stands tonight and checking that out. Along with installing my Line-Lock.

If anyone has some sugestions to get me into the 11's throw them out there. Thanks,
Ken

79TAKid
09-25-2011, 10:25 PM
Full weight with bunch of crap in the car.. just drove 2 1/2 hrs to the track and went 7.16 @ 100 w/ 1.48 60' lol

Mike Morris
09-26-2011, 08:01 PM
Jack and tire in car
Low 11s in good air with mods in sig-stock rims,all sway bars on,full interior,working ac blah blah

Mike Morris
09-26-2011, 08:03 PM
I have an older TSP grind for the cam, 231/237 112+2 and Patriot LS6 Stage II heads. As far as intake, I'm running a Fast 90/90. I know that the car has more in it. It maybe my launch technique that I need to work on. 1st pass, I held the car at 1000-1200 rpm to launch, netted me a slower 60' time but 2mph faster at 116mph. The next to times it was about 2000rpm when I launched.

I'm also trying to think if I adjusted my pinion angle when I lowered the car. I plan on putting the are up on jack stands tonight and checking that out. Along with installing my Line-Lock.

If anyone has some sugestions to get me into the 11's throw them out there. Thanks,
Ken

Try a 1300 launch with 18psi in the tires and smack it hard while powerbraking it. Over inflate your front tires by 10psi and barely trip the lights when staging.
Where is your car shifting at WOT?

Heyfred
09-26-2011, 09:18 PM
11.905, 113.19mph, 60' 1.528

http://i62.photobucket.com/albums/h109/Dyno65/Camaro/DSCN5220.jpg

lemons12
09-26-2011, 09:23 PM
11s full weight is easily attainable with full bolt ons.

Get the 60' where it should be.. Either fix your suspension, fix the tune, or change the converter... Whichever is cashing the issue.

green28
09-26-2011, 11:00 PM
Full weight bolt-on car ran a 12.03 @ 111. I would have thought your 60 ft would be lower and the MPH seems low for a h/c/i car, even in the warm weather.

ICRAZY6
09-27-2011, 04:22 PM
Try a 1300 launch with 18psi in the tires and smack it hard while powerbraking it. Over inflate your front tires by 10psi and barely trip the lights when staging.
Where is your car shifting at WOT?

It's shifting right at 6800 rpm. I think the tune is spot on. Didn't think to over inflate the fronts. Going to try to go up again before putting the car away for the winter. Still need to look into my DS angle after my lowering the car 1.25".

jheath5193
09-28-2011, 04:41 PM
it is not hard to run 11s in a full wieght LS car, mine runs mid to high 11s n/a depending on the weather, stock bottem end, stock head lq4 with cam, bolt ons, 3:42s, built 4l60e....should run high tens on the gas, ran a 11.0 when it 90degrees lol, i will find out here in a few weeks when i get home for good

ICRAZY6
09-29-2011, 03:01 PM
Oh, the smell of this shit ponds of Kandahar. Brings back memories....

jheath5193
09-29-2011, 05:45 PM
Oh, the smell of this shit ponds of Kandahar. Brings back memories....

its still here, still smells like shit lol

ICRAZY6
09-30-2011, 08:15 AM
Stay safe and get home soon.

big dave
09-30-2011, 10:10 AM
One thing I've noticed is that the majority of the cars in this thread are a4s. I think it would be more interesting to find out how many m6s have done it. Mine has gone as quick as a 12.02 @ 116.5 at a 3660 rcwt, on street tires, with just bolt-ons. That was in negative da. My h/c times are in my sig.

spicebird98
09-30-2011, 10:57 AM
One thing I've noticed as that the majority of the cars in this thread are a4s. I think it would be more interesting to find out how many m6s have done it. Mine has gone as quick as a 12.02 @ 116.5 at a 3660 rcwt, on street tires. That was in negative da.

Agreed, what 6 speed cars are running what they actually should be based on mph? not many.

Camaro Z
09-30-2011, 12:27 PM
Agreed, what 6 speed cars are running what they actually should be based on mph? not many.

I'm in the 7.6's @ 93-94 hitting the limiter before the traps. Heading to a 1/4 mile track next weekend, based on my 1/8th mile times/traps I should be in the 11.6-11.8 range at 116-119.

jheath5193
09-30-2011, 05:56 PM
Stay safe and get home soon.

thanks man i got less than 2 weeks then im outa here

big dave
10-01-2011, 07:27 PM
Agreed, what 6 speed cars are running what they actually should be based on mph? not many.

That mph advantage the 6 speed has is offset by the 60' the autos have. It should even out but somehow it doesn't. Last night I ran an 11.61 @ 120.4mph, but with only a 1.71 60', it kept me from running a time that matches the mph. I've seen a4s run in the high 10s at 120 mph

turbowhistle86
10-02-2011, 11:12 AM
If anyone has some sugestions to get me into the 11's throw them out there. Thanks,
Ken

Put that bitch on a diet and press the gas pedal harder :rotflmao: Honestly, I'm pretty surprised you haven't gotten this thing deep into the 11's with all of your mods. The suspension might be some of the issue, but your 60' times really aren't that bad. I wonder if the converter isn't part of the problem. Did you try bringing it up to around 2K to launch? You're not going to blow those ET Streets away at Byron, its always prepped well. Hell, I couldn't spin my street tires out of the hole.

nocooler
10-02-2011, 07:16 PM
That mph advantage the 6 speed has is offset by the 60' the autos have. It should even out but somehow it doesn't. Last night I ran an 11.61 @ 120.4mph, but with only a 1.71 60', it kept me from running a time that matches the mph. I've seen a4s run in the high 10s at 120 mph


I just ran a 11.34@122 w/1.56 60' - still has more in the 60', but it's getting there.

lemons12
10-02-2011, 08:42 PM
Manuals et and mph match for being a manual and same for auto.

Et is effected more by the sixty foot than mph. Auto usually has .2 on a manual and a manual usually has 2mph on an auto.
It takes a hell of a driver for a manual to match the et of a stalled auto both traps being the same.. Damn near impossible really.

flintwrench69
10-02-2011, 10:14 PM
Manuals et and mph match for being a manual and same for auto.

Et is effected more by the sixty foot than mph. Auto usually has .2 on a manual and a manual usually has 2mph on an auto.
It takes a hell of a driver for a manual to match the et of a stalled auto both traps being the same..
Very true.
Damn near impossible really.

No not really just takes some practice.