Gen 5 Camaro External Bolt-On Tech - OnStar Begins Spying On Customers’ GPS Location For Profit




libertyforall1776
09-22-2011, 10:36 PM
I didn't see this feature advertised... :eek2: Time to disconnect that system if you haven't already...

OnStar Begins Spying On Customers’ GPS Location For Profit | Jonathan Zdziarski's Domain (http://www.zdziarski.com/blog/?p=1270)

OnStar Begins Spying On Customers’ GPS Location For Profit
Posted on September 20, 2011 by Jonathan Zdziarski

I canceled the OnStar subscription on my new GMC vehicle today after receiving an email from the company about their new terms and conditions. While most people, I imagine, would hit the delete button when receiving something as exciting as new terms and conditions, being the nerd sort, I decided to have a personal drooling session and read it instead. I’m glad I did. OnStar’s latest T&C has some very unsettling updates to it, which include the ability to sell your personal GPS location information, speed, safety belt usage, and other information to third parties, including law enforcement. To add insult to a slap in the face, the company insists they will continue collecting and selling this personal information even after you cancel your service, unless you specifically shut down the data connection to the vehicle after canceling.

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libertyforall1776
09-22-2011, 10:48 PM
1984 is not appealing. No cars will be tracked if we do not consent. Consent is required for anything like this to ever be done. Quite simple, really.

How to disconnect OnStar:
Camaro5 Chevy Camaro Forum / Camaro ZL1, SS and V6 Forums - Camaro5.com - View Single Post - How to disconnect OnStar? (http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showpost.php?p=1140366&postcount=54)
or:
How to Take OnStar Out of a Car | eHow.com (http://www.ehow.com/how_5330281_onstar-out-car.html)

ANTICOP RAM AIR
09-22-2011, 10:56 PM
LOL.. they have been doing this since the public release of GPS units... how else do you think your GPS knows when there are traffic jams? Your iphones do it as well...


DietCoke
09-23-2011, 12:51 AM
LOL.. they have been doing this since the public release of GPS units... how else do you think your GPS knows when there are traffic jams? Your iphones do it as well...

GPS knows traffic jams from the FM traffic bandwidth receiver built into them, not from big brother telling them there's a traffic jam. GPS satellites don't have the bandwidth to monitor GPS, onstar works on a completely different principle.

Do you wear a tin foil hat?

ANTICOP RAM AIR
09-23-2011, 08:18 AM
GPS knows traffic jams from the FM traffic bandwidth receiver built into them, not from big brother telling them there's a traffic jam. GPS satellites don't have the bandwidth to monitor GPS, onstar works on a completely different principle.

Do you wear a tin foil hat?

lol.. no. But I have used several GPS as well as the one on my Iphone and they have apps where people can report traffic conditions and other shit.. I just figured thats what it was... but if a satellite can tell a little box where you are, why cant other people see it?.... I know for a fact it can be done because I used technology in the Army that does just that.. it was called FBCB2. That was a couple of years ago too so Im sure they have something better. we could watch and track all our buddies and know where they were as well as targets we were to engage....

libertyforall1776
09-23-2011, 09:47 AM
Hmm, slightly off topic, but Stingray II?:
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424053111904194604576583112723197574.html

http://si.wsj.net/public/resources/images/P1-BC606_Stingr_G_20110921180755.jpg

lol.. no. But I have used several GPS as well as the one on my Iphone and they have apps where people can report traffic conditions and other shit.. I just figured thats what it was... but if a satellite can tell a little box where you are, why cant other people see it?.... I know for a fact it can be done because I used technology in the Army that does just that.. it was called FBCB2. That was a couple of years ago too so Im sure they have something better. we could watch and track all our buddies and know where they were as well as targets we were to engage....

ANTICOP RAM AIR
09-23-2011, 09:53 AM
the new shit is called JV-5.. it was in testing phase when I was on my way out.. I got to see it but never use it.. its is a new Blue Force Tracker (BFT) but I have next to no information on it.. there is some out there but the specifics of course, are kept secret... I do know it was a joint effort between branches so we could see what the other was doing.. FBCB2 didnt have that great of a capability and we were often shooting at members of our own team... that happened a lot believe it or not....

UMD_Jesse
09-23-2011, 09:56 AM
Unplugging it is the right move. It's your civic duty to prevent big brother from prying in to your life any more than necessary. Also its a double slap in the face....you pay for it, and they profit from your info! At the very least they ought to pay you to turn it on.

2002_Z28_Six_Speed
09-23-2011, 10:32 AM
No wonder they wanted to give me a free year of service.

libertyforall1776
09-23-2011, 07:50 PM
Not surprising that OnStar/GM is not a member of the Digital Due Process (DDP) coalition, which is supporting amendments to ensure the government can't track your cell phone or obtain online content such as emails, photos, documents and backup files without first going to court to get a search warrant.

According to the EFF, the current version of the ECPA (Electronic Communications Privacy Act) is vague on whether these documents and information -- including the tracking of your cell phone -- are presently protected from government intrusion without any form of warrant.

OnStar is in part, basically a cell phone + GPS...

Digital Due Process :: Who We Are (http://digitaldueprocess.org/index.cfm?objectid=DF652CE0-2552-11DF-B455000C296BA163)

http://cdn.macrumors.com/article-new/2011/09/ddp.png

DietCoke
09-23-2011, 08:18 PM
lol.. no. But I have used several GPS as well as the one on my Iphone and they have apps where people can report traffic conditions and other shit.. I just figured thats what it was... but if a satellite can tell a little box where you are, why cant other people see it?.... I know for a fact it can be done because I used technology in the Army that does just that.. it was called FBCB2. That was a couple of years ago too so Im sure they have something better. we could watch and track all our buddies and know where they were as well as targets we were to engage....

FBCB2 is not a gps signal based system, FBCB2/Blue force tracker is a two way satellite radio, which is why every system has 2x RX and 2x TX pods on top of the trucks. It actually transmits to the military sat. Additionally, information is shared between local vehicles VIA encrypted PCM/FM band radio. A GPS receiver, on the other hand, works off of relative strength of a fixed GPS signal, and triangulates your location based off of relative strength of signal from known satellites and their geosynchronous locations. Two completely different style systems.

ULTIMATEORANGESS
09-23-2011, 08:41 PM
can law enforcement legally use this info against you?

Tan327
09-23-2011, 09:22 PM
I know for a fact it can be done because I used technology in the Army that does just that.. it was called FBCB2. That was a couple of years ago too so Im sure they have something better. we could watch and track all our buddies and know where they were as well as targets we were to engage....

Nope, I'm commo and we're still using the same old FBCB2's lol.

ANTICOP RAM AIR
09-23-2011, 10:02 PM
Nope, I'm commo and we're still using the same old FBCB2's lol.

is commo still 31U?.. they were changing a bunch of shit when I was on my way out.. I was in 4ID, we were the first to field test a lot of shit.. all the retro shit for the M109A3 Paladin AFCS systems and shit... That was all us. We were testing something different but I guess it isnt out yet... That FBCB2 still run on Windows98.. lol it did when we were using it.. our guns rolled on win2000 and NT.. thats how old that shit was.. I got out in 2007...

brandonppr
09-23-2011, 10:16 PM
can law enforcement legally use this info against you?

They can after December.
The info is for sale. Your employer could even tell were your car was when you called in sick. Your insurance co can tell if you speed. Cops can tell if you speed.
It is supposed to me anyomous, but when your car is parked at your house and they know that how is that possible? Onstar leaves this kinda open ended.

I have been an Onstar fan for a long time because they didn't sell the info, but this is too much. My Onstar will be disconnected before december.

If onstar wants to sell my info then they need to pay me, not me pay them to sell it.

Crash7557
09-24-2011, 12:46 AM
You have to search on YouTube but there's a video of onstar helping the police. Think it was a promotional video for law enforcement (to coax them to pay into it). It was a vehicle speeding down the highway. The officer scanned the car and onstar locked all the doors, rolled down the Windows, and wirelessly turned off the fuel pump and killed the accelerator.
This was like 5-6 years ago and that was only for a traffic stop. Other capabilities advertised were automatic speed limiters when you enter certain roads. So like when you go on the highway, you will go only 55 and only be able to accelerate at a predetermined "safe" rate.
This means also that new laws would follow that would penalize people for an inactive monitoring device. Same as an OBD-2 violation automatically fails inspection.
Welcome to the world of liberals.

Crash7557
09-24-2011, 12:58 AM
Here's the video: if it doesn't work then youtube search "gm onstar high speed pursuit preventitive technology"

http://m.youtube.com/index?desktop_uri=%2F&gl=US#/watch?v=ZIIM8rw0au8

brandonppr
09-24-2011, 01:24 AM
GM's OnStar Unit Alters Privacy Policy, Drawing Senators' Wrath (http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/g/a/2011/09/23/bloomberg_articlesLRZE566K50Y4.DTL)

Sept. 23 (Bloomberg) -- General Motors Co.'s OnStar vehicle navigation service revised its customer-data policy in a way that appears to "violate basic principles of privacy and fairness," two U.S. senators wrote in a letter to the company.

OnStar told customers in an e-mail this week that it may continue collecting data from vehicles of subscribers who have canceled the service. Customers must contact OnStar to halt the data collection under the policy change effective Dec. 1, according to the e-mail.

Democratic senators Al Franken of Minnesota and Christopher Coons of Delaware objected to the change in a Sept. 21 letter to OnStar that urged the company to reconsider its data policy.

"OnStar is telling its current and former customers that it can track their location anywhere, anytime -- even if they cancel their subscriptions -- and then give or sell that information to anyone as long as OnStar deems it safe to do so," the lawmakers wrote.

OnStar will respond directly to the senators, OnStar spokesman Adam Denison said. He declined to say when the company would reply or share details of its response.

OnStar delivers navigation and security features such as emergency assistance to GM cars using the global-positioning system. The service has more than 6 million customers in the U.S., Canada and China, according to the company's website.

Franken and Coons asked the company whether it has experienced any leaks of customer information and what it does to protect such data. The senators said OnStar's actions underscore the need for legislation to protect consumer information online including people's location.


Privacy Bill


"OnStar's actions appear to violate basic principles of privacy and fairness for OnStar's approximately six million customers -- especially for those customers who have already ended their relationships with your company," the senators wrote.

Franken introduced a bill in June that would require companies such as Apple Inc. and Google Inc. and mobile- application developers to obtain permission from mobile devices such as smartphones before collecting location data and sharing that information with third parties.

Franken, who chairs the Senate Judiciary subcommittee on privacy, technology and the law, held a May 10 hearing on mobile privacy with executives from Apple and Google.

His location bill is co-sponsored by Coons and Democratic senators Richard Blumenthal of Connecticut, Richard Durbin of Illinois, and Robert Menendez of New Jersey, along with Bernard Sanders of Vermont, an independent who caucuses with the Democrats, Coons spokesman Ian Koski said in an e-mail

libertyforall1776
09-24-2011, 12:52 PM
^ The *LAST* thing we need is MORE government involvement in GM! :eek2:

The free market has the best solution -- just disconnect OnStar, OR take your dollars elsewhere.

ULTIMATEORANGESS
09-24-2011, 03:36 PM
onstar was supposed to be good.


another way greed screws things up.

ANTICOP RAM AIR
09-24-2011, 04:29 PM
onstar was supposed to be good.


another way greed screws things up.

no shit...

brandonppr
09-24-2011, 07:16 PM
http://www.onstar.com/tunnel-web/webdav/portal/document_library/downloadable/PrivacyStatement-2011-USE.pdf

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Privacy Statement
Effective as of December 2011
What updates did OnStar make to the Privacy Statement?
The following key changes were made to our January 2011 Privacy Statement:
• We have added more detailed information about the information we collect about you and about your Vehicle, including how we collect your information, what we do with it and how we share it. For example, unless the Data Connection in your Vehicle is deactivated, information about your Vehicle may continue to be collected even if you do not have a Plan.
• In addition to other purposes set out in the prior version of the Privacy Statement, we may use the information we collect about you and your Vehicle to improve the quality of our Service and offerings and may share the information we collect with law enforcement or other public safety officials, credit card processors and/or third parties we contract with who conduct joint marketing initiatives with OnStar.
• Finally, we have added additional information about how OnStar safeguards your personal information.
Nothing is more important than the safety and security of you and your family. At OnStar, we apply that belief to every aspect of our business, including the protection of your personal information. You have a right to be confident your information is kept secure and to understand our privacy practices, specifically, what information we gather, with whom we share that information, how we use that information to make your driving experience safer and more convenient, and what we do to protect your information. We are committed to making your safety and the security of your information a priority.
This privacy statement applies to information we obtain about our U.S. customers and their cars or trucks (“Vehicle/s”) through a number of ways including: through any use of the emergency services, navigation services,
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OnStar Hands-Free Calling and other services OnStar offers (“Service/s”), when there is an active two-way connection to the Vehicle (“Data Connection”), through our Web site, or any communications between us. We understand there may be others who use your Vehicle or your Service, and we want you to understand the importance of telling all occupants of your Vehicle (including other drivers and occupants who may be in the Vehicle without you) or those who use the Service or Data Connection about how their information may be collected, used, or disclosed by OnStar.
Unless the Data Connection to your Vehicle is deactivated, data about your Vehicle will continue to be collected even if you do not have a Plan. It is important that you convey this to other drivers, occupants, or subsequent owners of your Vehicle. You may deactivate the Data Connection to your Vehicle at any time by contacting an OnStar Advisor.
If you purchase or enroll in additional Services such as OnStar Vehicle Diagnostics, you should read this privacy statement alongside any specific privacy practices for those particular Services.
1. INFORMATION ONSTAR COLLECTS
A. What Information does OnStar collect?
The information we collect about you includes:
• your contact information, (including your name, address, telephone number and email address);
• your billing information (including your credit card number);
• information about the purchase or lease of your Vehicle, such as the vehicle identification number (VIN), make, model, year and date of purchase or lease and selling/preferred dealer; and
• other information that you voluntarily provide to us (such as your language preference, your license plate number and/or your emergency contact information).

The information we may collect from your Vehicle includes:
• information about your Vehicle’s operation, including such things as diagnostic trouble codes, oil life remaining, tire pressure, fuel economy and odometer readings;
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• information about crashes involving your Vehicle, including the direction from which your Vehicle was hit, which air bags have deployed, and safety belt usage;
• information about your use of the Vehicle and its features, such as whether you have paired a mobile device with your Vehicle;
• information about when your Vehicle’s ignition is turned on or off and when your fuel is refilled; and
• in the limited circumstances listed below, the location and the approximate speed of your Vehicle based on the Global Positioning System (“GPS”) satellite network:
• when there is a request for Service (for example when you request driving directions);
• when there is an air bag deployment or automatic crash response (so we can inform emergency Service Providers);
• when there is a request for Stolen Vehicle Assistance (to assist law enforcement in the recovery of your Vehicle);
• when needed to protect the safety of you or others (for example, to locate a missing person);
• when needed by us or our Service Providers for our quality, research or troubleshooting purposes;
• as required by OnStar for the delivery of new or enhanced services that you have requested;
• as required by law; or
• for any purpose, at any time, provided that following collection of such location and speed information identifiable to your Vehicle, it is shared only on an anonymized basis.
If you use Hands-Free Calling minutes, we may obtain certain Customer Proprietary Network Information (CPNI) such as call detail records, the number of minutes purchased, the date minutes were purchased, the number of remaining minutes, and their expiration date. We do not share CPNI information specific to you with third parties for their marketing purposes.
B. How does OnStar collect my information?
OnStar collects information about you and your Vehicle in several different ways, including:
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• from what you, the maker of your Vehicle, its affiliates or any successor or assignee of a significant part of its business (your “Vehicle Maker”), our affiliates, and Vehicle dealers provide to us;
• from your use or purchase of OnStar Services;
• from correspondence between us;
• from OnStar Web pages you visit;
• from our wireless service providers, your satellite radio provider, third-party data providers, and any other person, company or entity who provides any Service or Equipment (“Service Providers”); and
• from your Vehicle itself when the OnStar hardware of software embedded in the Vehicle (“Equipment”) is enabled, or when there is a Data Connection (even if you do not have a Plan).

brandonppr
09-24-2011, 07:17 PM
2. HOW WE USE THE INFORMATION WE COLLECT
OnStar uses information about you and your Vehicle for a variety of purposes including:
• to provide Service to you, including checking and maintaining your Equipment;
• to manage or operate the Data Connection;
• to communicate with you about your account;
• for troubleshooting, analysis and research purposes;
• to enhance and improve the quality of our Service and offerings;
• as required by law;
• to protect the safety of you or others;
• to prevent fraud or misuse of the Service;
• to allow us, and our affiliates, your Vehicle Maker, and Vehicle dealers, to offer you new or additional products or services; and
• for other purposes provided the information is anonymized.
3. WHO WE SHARE YOUR INFORMATION WITH
OnStar is able to provide a safer, more convenient driving experience by sharing selected information with selected parties.
A. We share selected information with the following third parties:
• roadside assistance providers;
• emergency Service Providers;
• law enforcement or other public safety officials;
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• our wireless Service Providers;
• your satellite radio provider;
• credit card processors;
• data management companies; and
• others as may be required to provide Service, to manage or operate the Data Connection, to protect the safety of you or others, or as required by law.
B. We may also share information we collect about you or your Vehicle with the following (this does not include the sharing, other than on an anonymized basis, of the location or speed of your Vehicle, or your safety belt usage or credit card information):
• your Vehicle Maker, to enable it to evaluate or research the safety, quality, usage and functionality of its vehicles, to contact you with important information about your Vehicle or for marketing purposes;
• our affiliates, to enable them to provide Service or the Data Connection, to evaluate or research the safety, quality, usage and functionality of the Equipment, Service or Data Connection, to contact you with important information about your Vehicle, or for marketing purposes;
• Vehicle dealers, to assist in servicing your Vehicle, or for marketing purposes;
• your satellite radio provider and our wireless Service Providers, to enable them to contact you with important information about your satellite or wireless services or for marketing purposes;
• third parties with whom we contract with to conduct joint marketing initiatives with OnStar;
• your fleet company, if you drive a Vehicle that is part of a fleet;
• your rental company, if you drive a rental Vehicle; and
• any third party, provided the information is anonymized
Your Vehicle Maker may obtain information from your Vehicle independently from OnStar. Please refer to your owner’s manual and Vehicle Maker’s privacy statement for additional information.
There may be instances where we sell some or all of our business operations. To the extent that the business operation that is sold relates to the Equipment, Service or Data Connection, we may transfer your information as part of the transferred assets.
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Does OnStar share or sell anonymized information?
Anonymized information is data that can no longer be identified as belonging to you or your Vehicle. We may share or sell anonymized data (including location, speed, and safety belt usage) with third parties for any purpose, which may prove useful for such things as research relating to public safety or traffic services.
We will comply with all laws regarding notifying you and obtaining your consent before we collect, use or share information about you or your Vehicle in any other way than has been described in this privacy statement.
4. YOUR CHOICES REGARDING THE INFORMATION WE COLLECT
If you would like to limit the permitted uses or disclosures of your personal information (other than those required or permitted by law), you may contact us to discuss your options or to obtain further information by pressing the blue OnStar button in your Vehicle, or by calling 1.888.4.ONSTAR (1.888.466.7827).
Can I choose my communication preferences?
We use a number of methods to contact you to tell you about Services and offerings that may be of interest to you. This includes postal mail, telephone calls and, if you have provided us with an email address, electronically. Because we recognize that you may not want to receive marketing messages from us and that you may prefer to be communicated to via one particular method, we offer you a choice as to how you would like us to communicate with you.
You can manage your communication preferences in a number of ways, by following specific opt-out instructions provided in the communication, or by contacting us.
Changing your communication preferences will only stop delivery of marketing-related communications. We may continue to send you important service or account related information via these channels. We may also send you important messages using the Equipment in your Vehicle to provide you with information regarding important Service or
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account issues or to notify you about the cancellation of your Service or the deactivation of the Data Connection. You may choose not to receive these types of messages by contacting us as outlined above.
Supplemental Information for California Residents:
Your California Privacy Rights: California privacy law requires us to provide California residents with specific disclosures about our privacy practices, including telling you about the information we share with other third parties for their marketing purposes. You may request a copy of this information on an annual basis by contacting us.
5. UPDATING YOUR PERSONAL INFORMATION
Do I have access to my personal information?
We provide quick, convenient access to your personal information on our Web site or by phone. If you would like to access or ensure accuracy of your information, you can contact an OnStar Advisor from your Vehicle, call 1.888.4.ONSTAR, or visit our Web site at OnStar.com - onstar.com (http://www.onstar.com).
Can I obtain a copy of personal information about my account or my Service events?
You can request a copy of information relating to your account or Service event by calling 1.888.4.ONSTAR.
6. SAFEGUARDING YOUR PERSONAL INFORMATION
Where is my information processed or stored?
OnStar and its Service Providers may process and store information about you or your Vehicle in the United States, Canada, or other jurisdictions from which the Services or Data Connection will be provided and where the privacy laws may differ from those in the United States. Information may be available to government or its agencies in the country where the data is processed or stored under a lawful requirement in that country.
What does OnStar do to safeguard my information?
We recognize the importance of safeguarding personal information in our possession. To protect your information from loss, misuse and unauthorized access, disclosure, alteration, destruction and theft, we have implemented and maintain a number of technical, administrative, and
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physical safeguards. For example, sensitive information, such as credit or debit card information, is encrypted when transmitted between your computer and our Web site servers via the Internet.
If a third party Service Provider is used to provide the Data Connection or Services that require access to your personal information, we require that each party has appropriate security measures to maintain the safety of your information. We also require that your information is only accessible to authorized individuals and only for the purpose of providing the Service or Data Connection.
For certain Services, such as door unlocks, we will ask you for your Personal Identification Number (PIN) to help identify you (or other people you have authorized). We also require you to have a username and password in order to access your account through our Web site. You are responsible for keeping your PIN, username, and password secure and you should not disclose them to anyone (unless you wish to authorize them to access your account or Service and possibly incur charges on your account). It is important that you maintain the confidentiality regarding your PIN, username, and password at all times as we cannot be responsible for any unauthorized use of OnStar when the appropriate authentication has been provided. You may periodically wish to update or change your PIN, username, and/or password and can do so at any time.
We provide Service to you through wireless networks. Although it is illegal for unauthorized people to intercept your calls, such interceptions of wireless carriers can occur.

brandonppr
09-24-2011, 07:17 PM
7. OUR ONLINE PRACTICES
Does OnStar use “cookies” or other online tracking technologies?
We may use cookies and other tracking devices on our Web sites. Using cookies on our sites provides benefits to you, such as allowing you to maintain your account login information between visits, or locating a nearby dealer. The use of cookies also allows us to measure site activity to provide a better user experience. Cookies and other tracking devices may be used to tell us for example, the time and length of your visit, the pages you look
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at on our site, the site you visited just before coming to ours, and the name of your Internet service provider.
We may use third parties to serve OnStar advertisements on other Web sites. In serving OnStar advertisements, these companies may use cookies and other tracking devices to collect certain information about your visits to other Web sites (such as browser type, IP address, which page was visited, and time of day). This information may be used to evaluate our online advertising campaigns or to tailor promotions and other marketing messages to you.
You may be able to change your preferences regarding your cookies. Please refer to your browser Help instructions to learn more about cookies and how to manage their use.
8. HOW TO CONTACT US WITH QUESTIONS ABOUT OUR PRIVACY PRACTICES
For answers to frequently asked questions about our privacy practices, please visit our Web site at OnStar.com - onstar.com (http://www.onstar.com). If you have a specific concern about the privacy of your account information, you can contact the Privacy Manager via email at privacymanager@onstar.com. You can also write OnStar’s Privacy Manager at OnStar Privacy Manager, P.O. Box 1027, Warren, Michigan, 48090-1027, or call us at 1.877.299.1372. Please include your contact information and a detailed description of your request or concern. If you are an existing subscriber, please also include your OnStar Account Number.
9. CHANGES TO THE PRIVACY STATEMENT
We may need to update this privacy statement from time to time as our business and Services expand, or if we are required to do so by law. If we do, we will post the most up-to-date version on our Web site so you should periodically check our Web site for any updates.
If we make any change which materially affects our privacy practices regarding the collection, use, or disclosure of your personal information, we will notify you by sending an email to the email address you have provided,
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or, if you do not have an email address on file with us, by postal mail. We will also post a notice of the change on our Web site.

brandonppr
09-24-2011, 07:32 PM
From what I understand. OnStar is owned 27% by the U.S. government and 12% by the Canadian government.

brandonppr
09-27-2011, 01:38 PM
Onstar decided NOT to track data after people unsubscribe, but I guess they will still sell data of subscribers.


General Motors' OnStar service on Tuesday said it has dropped plans to keep collecting data from OnStar-equipped vehicles after owners have canceled the service.

The move comes in the wake of complaints about the data-collection plan from consumers and at least two members of Congress.

OnStar had told subscribers that, starting on Dec. 1, the company would have been able to sell or share anonymized data--data that doesn't identify an individual customer or vehicle--about vehicle location, speed and safety-belt usage with third parties. A customer would specifically have to ask OnStar to shut down the data connection, separate from canceling the service.

"We realize that our proposed amendments did not satisfy our subscribers," OnStar president Linda Marshall said in a statement. "This is why we are leaving the decision in our customers' hands. We listened, we responded and we hope to maintain the trust of our more than 6 million customers."

Democratic Sens. Chuck Schumer of New York and Al Franken of Minnesota objected to the plan, saying that it violated consumers' privacy.

"By tracking drivers even after they've canceled their service, OnStar is attempting one of the most brazen invasions of privacy in recent memory," Schumer said.

In a letter to the Federal Trade Commission, Schumer called for an investigation of the potentially unfair practice. Schumer also contacted OnStar, asking it to abandon the changes to its policy.


Read more: http://www.autoweek.com/article/20110927/CARNEWS/110929900#ixzz1ZBALdjCz

libertyforall1776
09-28-2011, 03:18 PM
TomTom was also caught selling customer data this year:
TomTom apologise for selling customer satnav data used for police speed traps | Mail Online (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-1381491/TomTom-apologise-selling-customer-satnav-data-used-police-speed-traps.html)

TomTom To Sell GPS Data To Road Authorities, Private Companies (http://www.smh.com.au/digital-life/cartech/outrage-over-tomtom-speed-traps-for-motorists-20110506-1ebc2.html#ixzz1LeEc4DCe)

It is not dead, this is a temporary measure to fool people. TomTom took the same tactic in the past where they were sharing/selling data, stopped, but guess what, reportedly they are doing it AGAIN.

So will OnStar!


Not only that, but Maryland is trialing an in-car spy system, I'm sure other states are thinking similar 1984 schemes:

http://static.prisonplanet.com/p/images/september2011/230911letter1.jpg
Maryland MVA Trials In-Car Spy System Alex Jones' Infowars: There's a war on for your mind! (http://www.infowars.com/maryland-mva-trials-in-car-spy-system/)

This is real.

01ssreda4
10-05-2011, 04:16 AM
Unplugging it is the right move. It's your civic duty to prevent big brother from prying in to your life any more than necessary. Also its a double slap in the face....you pay for it, and they profit from your info! At the very least they ought to pay you to turn it on.

Agreed :nod:

z99ls1
10-05-2011, 07:32 AM
Everybody with onstar rip that shit off now and tell them why you ripped it out!

UMD_Jesse
10-05-2011, 07:49 AM
Also, if people refused to buy cars with onstar then GM might start to change their tune. Tell the dealer to rip it out for you.