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Old 10-03-2011, 01:42 PM
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I raced my friends stock, lid/catback ls1 from a dig and a 20 roll and both times I stayed with him. I actually pulled about a fender on the dig. Is this about right? They're both autos he has 3.23's and I do too. I have intake/cutout/longtubes/nitto 555 tires.
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Ya it does, at the lower speeds up to about 90-100mph you would keep up and then the LS1 should pull on you. At higher roll speeds the LS1 should pull like from 40-50+mph. Thats my experience atleast having both LT1 and LS1 cars and racing them. Even with all the mods a stock and well maintained LS1 pulls higher numbers at the wheel. I had a bit more mods then you on my past LT1 cars and highest i ever dynoed on a dynapack or dynojet was 274 rwhp, stock LS1 cars are usually going to be higher then that even for an auto but not by a whole lot. Just depends some LS1's dyno better then others as ive seen the numbers all over the place. Good run OP
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Thanks! Should I get a stall and 3.73s?
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My old 97 WS6 did well for what it was from a dig with 555R's, full exhaust, 3.73's, and 3600 stall. Surprised quite a few bolt-on Ls1 drivers even
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i pulled an ls1 camaro with the mods i have in my Trans Am from 60-120 by about a car so, its not unheard of...and definitely a stall. made a big difference in my car. not sure if you'll notice a huge difference from 3:23 to 3:73...
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I would think the bolt on's would let you pull a stock ls1 car
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A stall in an auto car will make 100x the difference a set of gears would. That should no doubt be your next mod. You should put some distance between you and him then.
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Thanks guys!
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Give the LS the same bolt ons and see what happens
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Originally Posted by gregrob
Give the LS the same bolt ons and see what happens
I hope your kidding lol
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Jesus, the LS1 is already starting off with

Much better flowing heads
1.6rrs
Better flowing intake
Better flowing exhaust manifolds

Thats just to name a few. Giving the LS1 the same bolt-ons argument is played out. To an LT1, the LS1 is already starting off with bolt-ons.

Put a stock LT4 against a LS1. Bet the LT4 wins more times than not.
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Originally Posted by Fly on the wall
Jesus, the LS1 is already starting off with

Much better flowing heads
1.6rrs
Better flowing intake
Better flowing exhaust manifolds

Thats just to name a few. Giving the LS1 the same bolt-ons argument is played out. To an LT1, the LS1 is already starting off with bolt-ons.

Put a stock LT4 against a LS1. Bet the LT4 wins more times than not.
Thats a lauph. Now your comparing a motor with a big cam in it. How bout you compare the lt4 to an ls6 than lol. Still the ls1 is a FAR better motor than either the lt1 or lt4. My first car was a 93 z28 so I'm not biased. Just stating the facts.
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Originally Posted by Mavn
I raced my friends stock, lid/catback ls1 from a dig and a 20 roll and both times I stayed with him. I actually pulled about a fender on the dig. Is this about right? They're both autos he has 3.23's and I do too. I have intake/cutout/longtubes/nitto 555 tires.
All LS1's don't run the same and you can account for driver error. Going from a dig anything can happen. I have owned both lt1/ls1 and I can assure you ls1 is a completely different animal. My car bone stock would have put 3 cars on your car in the 1/4 mile and than pulled away hard up top. My friends bolt-on lt1 wasn't even close to my stock ls1 and than my friends cam/bolt-on lt1 couldn't run with me when I had a lid and cutout. When I had my cam/bolt-on z28 I was getting pulled by almost stock ls1's. Takes alot to get an lt1 running like the ls1. I know from personal experience. Now I also had a friend with a 383/cammed/bolt-on lt1 that gave a good suprise to alot of ls1's!
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IMO, modded lt1's are no joke, but with stock restrictive manifolds, a4's with 2.73's run like turds from what ive seen
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Originally Posted by gregrob
Give the LS the same bolt ons and see what happens
Who gives a ****? "What if" or "equal mod" discussions are retarded. The cars raced with what they had, we got a result, end of story. If the LS1 comes back with those mods, then it's fine to talk about it.

Originally Posted by Fly on the wall
Jesus, the LS1 is already starting off with

Much better flowing heads
1.6rrs
Better flowing intake
Better flowing exhaust manifolds

Thats just to name a few. Giving the LS1 the same bolt-ons argument is played out. To an LT1, the LS1 is already starting off with bolt-ons.

Put a stock LT4 against a LS1. Bet the LT4 wins more times than not.
I bet not.

Stock LS1 rockers are 1.7 btw, not 1.6.
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Originally Posted by z99ls1
Thats a lauph. Now your comparing a motor with a big cam in it. How bout you compare the lt4 to an ls6 than lol. Still the ls1 is a FAR better motor than either the lt1 or lt4. My first car was a 93 z28 so I'm not biased. Just stating the facts.
Spec on a LT4 cam with 1.6s : lift 476/479 dur 203/210

2001 LS6 cam
207/217 int/exh @ 0.05" duration 0.525" / 0.525" int/exh lift 116 LSA

2002+ LS6 cam
204/218 int/exh @ 0.05" duration 0.551" / 0.547" int/exh lift 117 LSA

Seems to be a good bit of difference.
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Originally Posted by WSsick
Who gives a ****? "What if" or "equal mod" discussions are retarded. The cars raced with what they had, we got a result, end of story. If the LS1 comes back with those mods, then it's fine to talk about it.



I bet not.

Stock LS1 rockers are 1.7 btw, not 1.6.
I used to have an LT4 vette. I never ran up against a stock LS1 anything that out ran me at the track. I was running a consistant 13.0-13.15 @107-108. I am sure there are some stock LS1s that run better times but, like I said, more times than not.
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LS1 > LT1 nuff said.
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Originally Posted by gregrob
Give the LS the same bolt ons and see what happens
Everyone knows that an LS1 will beat an LT1 if the mods are even. Seems like youre upset that the LT1 stayed with the LS1...
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Originally Posted by F-Body_4_Life
Everyone knows that an LS1 will beat an LT1 if the mods are even. Seems like youre upset that the LT1 stayed with the LS1...
I am? My LT skull ***** LS cars regularly.


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