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Old 10-20-2011, 06:16 PM
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Here's my question - we have a 2000 Corvette we're using as a project car (the introduction is here: http://www.lsxtv.com/features/editor...g-project-y2k/) that did 315 or so to the wheels in stock form, and now has an LS6 manifold, long tube headers, x-pipe, axle back exhaust, a cam swap, and a "canned" tune from FAST plus a few other bits and pieces.



It's doing 385 to the wheels now, and I'm sure there's more to be had from the existing hardware with a real tune, but once that's sorted, we're thinking about doing a nitrous plate system.

My main question is how big we can jet the nitrous kit and still have a good margin of safety with the stock short block. I've got a LNC-2000 waiting to go on to handle pulling timing, so detonation should not be an issue. I'm just wondering what the consensus is on how much spray we can run without hurting it.

The bonus questions are "when are we gonna run out of fuel pump?" and "what's your recommended fueling upgrade?"

Thanks in advance for your help...
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Everything I have read says 150 is perfectly safe. That's why I chose to run a 150 on my stock shortblock car. A walbro 255 pump is an easy and effective way to support the power level you are looking for. As far as injectors, stock should be fine as long as you are spraying the car with a wet shot. Good luck.
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buddy. seems like the sky is the limit. some have hit em pretty hard and have run really strong, and others have hurt em with baby shots. Just make sure you have all the proper things, tune safe, and let her rip. I have heard as high as 300hp
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Yah, definitely going with a wet system. I should also mention that a new clutch is in the works, too. I've been kind of hard on the stock one...
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Originally Posted by oneoverwrx
Everything I have read says 150 is perfectly safe. That's why I chose to run a 150 on my stock shortblock car. A walbro 255 pump is an easy and effective way to support the power level you are looking for. As far as injectors, stock should be fine as long as you are spraying the car with a wet shot. Good luck.
Ran 150 shot on a 99 for yrs, ( it was a lease, so didn't want to go higher). No problems.

Alot of the problems occur on the Launch with a Bigger shot, the car Boggs & then you get a back-fire.

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buddy. seems like the sky is the limit. I have heard as high as 300hp
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we have a local guy here spraying 300 on a stock short block, not saying thats recommended, but i have seen it done on his car for 2yrs straight now...i would stay at 150hp to be safe
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So far myself, cam and a few more have hit thm with over 300. I truly think 250 could could be ran for years with todays technology. 250 is the new 150! Lol....
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Carter, with your 137mph trap im guessig your car is puttig down about 650whp?
i was watching some vids of your car last night, goddamn that thing 60fts..lol.. im trapping 130mph and still cant crack 10s on my GTO..lol..on a auto..
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I'm still a vaj......150 lol
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Originally Posted by Carter01
250 is the new 150! Lol....
Thats good ... LOL !
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Hey, gotta apologize to everybody for making the noob mistake of not reading the FAQ at the top of the section - it pretty much answered all my questions once I bothered to actually go through it... d'oh!

Thanks for the feedback though. I'm gonna make "250 is the new 150" my motto now!
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If we are talking safety, put 200 in it with a NGK b8ef plug and it will love for a long time with 8-10 degrees pulled. We have put 300 plus through ours and the heads are off right now and everything looks fantastic with 2 years of use.

If I remember you're from the west coast, come see us at the SCSN this year, we'll be running street challenge. I'll give you some pointers etc
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Remember nitros is like a hot girl with a std. You wabt to hit it ,but your afraid of the consequences.
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Originally Posted by camscam02
If we are talking safety, put 200 in it with a NGK b8ef plug and it will love for a long time with 8-10 degrees pulled. We have put 300 plus through ours and the heads are off right now and everything looks fantastic with 2 years of use.

If I remember you're from the west coast, come see us at the SCSN this year, we'll be running street challenge. I'll give you some pointers etc
I'll be sure to come find you. I won't be running the Corvette though...
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The safe point is 150 on average. If you want to step out of the box and throw more at it the LSX platform is pretty strong. OUr plate system would be exactly what you want if you are wanting to move up in the power level. You will find alot of our customers doing 250-300 on our plate systems. However there is a tuning step that needs to be followed as moving up. I can help you understand this and walk you through it just like I have many other guys using our products at this power level.

You will start to se the factory fuel system having issues around 450 to 500 hp on most applications. A racetronix system would get you up to about 650 rear wheel hp. Anything over that I would suggest one of our corvette specific dedicated fuel systems.

Let me know if I can help in any way.
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Originally Posted by 02ws.sik
Remember nitros is like a hot girl with a std. You wabt to hit it ,but your afraid of the consequences.



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