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First allow me to begin by saying I'm not sure if the problem is suspension or tire related. I was coming home today when I nailed it, got the car up to about 105MPH just for fun, then the car started feeling sloppy, I could feel the tail being lazy. I've had this happen before when I had low tire pressure in the back, so I figured it was running low. I got back checked all the tires, except the rear passenger side one. I put the tire gauge on to check it...after about one second the whole thing blew off! The entire thing blew apart into pieces. Therefore I wasn't able to check the pressure on the last one.

My question, does this happen a lot with these things? Never had it happen before, is it a sign of too much air?

Why is my car feeling sloppy? I remember in the middle of summer when the days were over 90 degrees the car would feel sloppy, but at night time it would feel nimble and sharp again. Today was cool, barely breaking 70 degrees...heat shouldn't affect it. Any ideas please?
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How is your panhard holding up?
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How is your panhard holding up?
What's the panhard?
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How is your panhard holding up?
Exactly what I was thinking! I had a bolt loosen up and fall out of the panhard years ago...Felt VERY sloppy on the road....

OP, the panhard bar stabilizes the side-to-side motion of the rear end. It bolts to the chassis on the passenger side and mounts to the rear end on the driver's side.
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Originally Posted by hardrock21
Exactly what I was thinking! I had a bolt loosen up and fall out of the panhard years ago...Felt VERY sloppy on the road....

OP, the panhard bar stabilizes the side-to-side motion of the rear end. It bolts to the chassis on the passenger side and mounts to the rear end on the driver's side.
So you're saying a bolt might be loose on here? Any pictures or advice on how I can get in there and check it out? I'm glad we might have narrowed this down.
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So you're saying a bolt might be loose on here? Any pictures or advice on how I can get in there and check it out? I'm glad we might have narrowed this down.
I'm not saying anything happened...I'm just giving advice on things to check. If you google image panhard bar you will get a ton of results on what one looks like and you can glance underneath the rear of the car and make sure yours is still attached.
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Originally Posted by WhiteKnight '01
First allow me to begin by saying I'm not sure if the problem is suspension or tire related. I was coming home today when I nailed it, got the car up to about 105MPH just for fun, then the car started feeling sloppy, I could feel the tail being lazy. I've had this happen before when I had low tire pressure in the back, so I figured it was running low. I got back checked all the tires, except the rear passenger side one. I put the tire gauge on to check it...after about one second the whole thing blew off! The entire thing blew apart into pieces. Therefore I wasn't able to check the pressure on the last one.

My question, does this happen a lot with these things? Never had it happen before, is it a sign of too much air?

Why is my car feeling sloppy? I remember in the middle of summer when the days were over 90 degrees the car would feel sloppy, but at night time it would feel nimble and sharp again. Today was cool, barely breaking 70 degrees...heat shouldn't affect it. Any ideas please?
What shocks are you on right now?
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What shocks are you on right now?
Stock shocks and I just passes 70,000 miles. I'm buying the SLP Bilstein set of 4 in the beginning of November. Do you recommend I go with the slightly cheaper HD shocks, or the regular slightly more expensive shocks? I'm going off of ws6store's website.

Also, my friend tells me he can install the shocks. But he says the front ones are struts, which are more difficult to install while the rear ones are shocks. Is this true?
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Shocks are easy to install - struts are easy to but you will need a spring compressor for the struts.
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Originally Posted by projectX
Shocks are easy to install - struts are easy to but you will need a spring compressor for the struts.
Where do I get a spring compressor from? How much do they cost?
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Free at an auto parts store - check around - autozone is def one of them - you just give them a small deposit borrow it, bring back and get your deposit back. Far as the work basic hand tools and a vice to hold the strut while you decompress the springs. Hope his helps.
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I'm really excited about adding the new shocks. I'm trying to get an idea of how much of a difference I will feel on a 70,000 miles car.

Would you say the difference is like going from 200HP car to a 350HP car, as far as analogies go? I ask 'cause my last car was a 2003 Monte Carlo SS, lol. Will it feel like a new car again?
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Every car is different but I would say shocks make a huge difference - you will def notice the difference - before and after.
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Originally Posted by WhiteKnight '01
Stock shocks and I just passes 70,000 miles. I'm buying the SLP Bilstein set of 4 in the beginning of November. Do you recommend I go with the slightly cheaper HD shocks, or the regular slightly more expensive shocks? I'm going off of ws6store's website.
SLP bilstiens from Stranoparts.com (or better yet Koni SAs if you really want a handling improvement)
Also, my friend tells me he can install the shocks. But he says the front ones are struts, which are more difficult to install while the rear ones are shocks. Is this true?
Both front and rear are shocks, but front are coil over shocks (they are not struts, cars with struts do not have an upper A-arm (ours has an upper A-arm).
And yes it can be a PINA to do the front, but mostly because the upper shock bolt get seized on with rust.
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Originally Posted by WhiteKnight '01
I'm really excited about adding the new shocks. I'm trying to get an idea of how much of a difference I will feel on a 70,000 miles car.

Would you say the difference is like going from 200HP car to a 350HP car, as far as analogies go? I ask 'cause my last car was a 2003 Monte Carlo SS, lol. Will it feel like a new car again?
The car will feel better than new because even brand new decarbons are lackluster at best.
200 vs 350hp difference with bilstiens, probably not(but still a big difference)... But with konis, yes and then some.
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Order your parts from Sam Strano. Order new springs while your at. Call him up, he will get you a great deal and is very knowledgeable with quality parts. I bought shocks and springs from him and it could not have been easier.
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Stranoparts are $8 cheaper than ws6store, so I guess I will go with him. So long as shipping is free too. It's also good to know that the fronts are not struts, should make the job a little bit quicker now.



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