Street Racing & Kill Stories - 460 rwhp z06 vs 550 awhp 12 gtr

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VIHxEMfs4dU&feature=player_embedded


Damn. Never had a chance. How do you puppykick a c6z06 lol?

was hard to watch lol

LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

No passanger in the GTR and about the same weight with the zo6 having the passanger with the GTR having 100 more hp to the wheels....LOL

Gonna talk with the gtr owner and see if this can happen again but both with no passengers and the z06 adding a filter and tune. Well see whats up then

It should be a close race, with no passanger in the c6z and the GTR the same way.....LOL

man that was nasty..nice cars though..

WOW...That was bad for the Z06. I am thinking that on passenger in the Z not going to help him.

LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

No passanger in the GTR and about the same weight with the zo6 having the passanger with the GTR having 100 more hp to the wheels....LOL

I doubt their weights are even, GTR still weighed a bit more. Yes the GTR had more power, but what people always forget about those cars is that boost + dual clutch trans = seamless shifts with virtually no loss in boost. That combo is better than an old torque converter and a turbo. Gotta drive your ass off to beat it.

I doubt their weights are even, GTR still weighed a bit more. Yes the GTR had more power, but what people always forget about those cars is that boost + dual clutch trans = seamless shifts with virtually no loss in boost. That combo is better than an old torque converter and a turbo. Gotta drive your ass off to keep up with it.I've been saying this first time I herd one shift, err the lack of shifting atleast lol If you gave them a 6speed with a clutch I bet it wouldn't be half as impressive as a car.

I doubt their weights are even, GTR still weighed a bit more. Yes the GTR had more power, but what people always forget about those cars is that boost + dual clutch trans = seamless shifts with virtually no loss in boost. That combo is better than an old torque converter and a turbo. Gotta drive your ass off to beat it.

It all depends on what year the c6z is. I am guessing that the GTR is about 3600lbs to 3700lbs with the driver. A 07+ c6z is about 3500lbs with a drive. I am giving them a 200lbs driver. Put the passanger at 200lbs and the c6z is right there with the GTR in weight. Then add 100whp on that and the seamless shifts and you have a win for sure with the GTR.

Take the passanger out and it will be a close race with the c6z pulling a little like a car but thats it.

.... and if I folded my penis in half it would be six inches long....
Great vid. The race was a loss for the Z-o6. WGAF about what CUDDA happened....

And the color of the Nissan..... smooooth.

I like both those cars

Curb Weights (lbs)
GT-R Premium GT-R Black Edition

Total
3829 3821

http://www.nissanusa.com/gt-r/specifications.html



The GTR is giving up a lot weight to the Z06. Even with two passengers the Z is lighter.


insideline.com has it at almost 3900 for the one they tested. 3888lbs
http://www.insideline.com/nissan/gt-r/2012/2012-nissan-gt-r-full-test-and-video.html

Both had passengers. Dayum! Intake and tune woulda helped. But aint closin the deal...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fmOuMftZsu4&feature=player_embedded

Edited

And the plot thickens.

was hard to watch lol

This. I was squinting my eyes while watching lol. The second vid from inside the GT-R made it look even worse.

Needs full bolt ons prolly

Too late someone already addressed it.

Awesome cars.
Put 2 or 3 passengers in the GTR with none in the Z06 and the GTR would still pull away. Passengers had nothing to do with it.

i guess it doesnt take much for a gtr to beat a c6z,good races!

when it comes to boosted cars you cant beat the $ to hp ratio that is gained from a tune. Its going to take the z06 full boltons and a cam to equal the power gains the gtr picked up from just the exhaust and tune.

I really don't like GTR's but considering the drag Cd (lower than a C6 and C6Z) but I forget exactly (GTR .26 IIRC vs .28 C6 and .33 C6Z) and the benefit of F/I without having to shift and loose boost on the shifts, the GTR's are amazing and will always be strong, even stock-

With that said, I'd still rock the C6Z :)

yeah i agree, gonna take more than a tune and filter for the zo6. Good run though

Tune and filter will add 30 rwhp. We shall see

Tune and filter will add 30 rwhp. We shall see

Tune and filter, and we will see the C6Z get smoked all over again.

in the nov.2011 issue of road and track...''the two second club''...the 2012 GTR was quicker to 45mph then the porsche 911 turbo S and veyron SS...that is saying something...for basically a v6 with a automatic and weighing so damn much. it really is some car...but as stated above, that trans. really helps...i guess the Z06 would need ''ranger'' to do the driving...

Wtf man... Im getten tired of all this quartermile bs!

Look.... For the handicapped people who know nothing about drag raceing and keep quoteing magazine 0-60 and quartermile ect.


The pre 12 gtrs trap 116-122 mph
The 2012s trap 120-126 mph

Thats the bottom line that matters in roll raceing.

Stock z06s trap 122-128 mph
Stock vipers trap 125-131 mph
Stock zr1s trap 126-132 mph



What this means.. Despite all the awd and quarter mile shit is that stock for stock a z06 and 12 gtr is a drivers race and the viper or zr1 will jog away.

When they make a gtr that traps 130s like the american beaste then ill get excited. Until then the 12 gtr is just now doing what the 06 z06s did. The 11 gtr is just doing what the 03 viper did.


Stop quoteing 0-60 times ect. This is the street raceing forum were 90 percent of the time we are raceing from rolls and the 0-60 in 2.x dont mean sh#t, if your trappin low to mid 120s your gonna getyanked by stock american cars from 60-150 mph

so a viper and zr1 is a close race?

so a viper and zr1 is a close race?

Statistically, the ZR1 and '08 or newer Viper is a very close race. But pre-'08 Viper would get yanked by the ZR1.

The viper beat the zr1 on 0-150 mph testing

Vip=16. 4
Zr1=17. 0

Also on top gear the viper pulled the zr1from 0-155 mph but at 160 the zr1 passed and by 180 mph the zr1 was a car or so ahead.

The same day same track comparison had the zr1 trap 127 and the viper 128 in car and drivrer

Ones 3350 pounds and the other is 3450 pounds. Both have 550 rwhp stock. But the zr1s more weather dependant.

Wtf man... Im getten tired of all this quartermile bs!

Look.... For the handicapped people who know nothing about drag raceing and keep quoteing magazine 0-60 and quartermile ect.


So you're telling me you are handicapped?? You just quoted top gear and car and driver in your post above.

Seems strange to me.

I am confused with the original video of the GTR and Z06. The race was between a close to stock Z06 and a modified GTR. Last time I checked, the GTR does not come with 550 Hp to the wheels. So what is so surprising about this kill?
If you want to show that then why don't you show a h/c/i Z06 or a supercharged Z06?

Will this prasing of the GTR ever end? Way to much GTR ass kissing.

The viper beat the zr1 on 0-150 mph testing

Vip=16. 4
Zr1=17. 0

Also on top gear the viper pulled the zr1from 0-155 mph but at 160 the zr1 passed and by 180 mph the zr1 was a car or so ahead.

The same day same track comparison had the zr1 trap 127 and the viper 128 in car and drivrer

Ones 3350 pounds and the other is 3450 pounds. Both have 550 rwhp stock. But the zr1s more weather dependant.All of this is bs, because a bolt on gtr just waxed a light as aluminum 427 vette. Nothing else happened, so keep talking bs numbers that mean nothing. Add an intake and tune to the vette, it will lose again:judge:.

I am confused with the original video of the GTR and Z06. The race was between a close to stock Z06 and a modified GTR. Last time I checked, the GTR does not come with 550 Hp to the wheels. So what is so surprising about this kill?
If you want to show that then why don't you show a h/c/i Z06 or a supercharged Z06?

Will this prasing of the GTR ever end? Way to much GTR ass kissing.

Because the race was a stock z06 to a modded GTR. Who said it was a surprise?

I am confused with the original video of the GTR and Z06. The race was between a close to stock Z06 and a modified GTR. Last time I checked, the GTR does not come with 550 Hp to the wheels. So what is so surprising about this kill?
If you want to show that then why don't you show a h/c/i Z06 or a supercharged Z06?

Will this prasing of the GTR ever end? Way to much GTR ass kissing.


Its a bolt on GT-R vs a bolt on Z06. Even with full bolt ons on the Z06 it would still lose. Also the GT-R is close to stock as well. Intake exhaust and a tune is next to nothing. Bottom line is with boost its easier to make power. Not to mention the weight difference.

Because the race was a stock z06 to a modded GTR. Who said it was a surprise?

Because it seems to be the common thing lately to show how a GTR is better than a Z06. To demonstrate this, a video is always posted of a modified GTR aganist stock or lightly modifed Z06. Post up a modied Z06 against a modified GTR. Hell, if you want to compare the two with boost, post up a ZR1 against the GTR. :usa:

Because it seems to be the common thing lately to show how a GTR is better than a Z06. To demonstrate this, a video is always posted of a modified GTR aganist stock or lightly modifed Z06. Post up a modied Z06 against a modified GTR. Hell, if you want to compare the two with boost, post up a ZR1 against the GTR. :usa:

You post a full bolt on Z06 against a full bolt on GT-R the Z06 would still lose, like I said. The term "modified" is a broad term. Rather than get caught up on all of that just enjoy the show.

And one other thing, getting tied up on boost vs N/A is stupid. Because at the end of the day its whatever car gets to the finish line first that matters.

You post a full bolt on Z06 against a full bolt on GT-R the Z06 would still lose, like I said. The term "modified" is a broad term. Rather than get caught up on all of that just enjoy the show.

And one other thing, getting tied up on boost vs N/A is stupid. Because at the end of the day its whatever car gets to the finish line first that matters.

I got ya man!
Maybe for fun, I will head over to the GTR forum and post a Supercharged ZO6 spanking a GTR. I am sure that post will be treated with love and kindness. I will enjoy that show.

Here is what I think is stock vs stock.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yfEAYnjRSUs&feature=player_embedded

Just came across this video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k7tTxfLUtOc

Must be the full bolt on's. Lol.

nope
Stock 2012 GTR
Intake/Tune C6Z06

the vid with the dude wearing the darth vader mask...i dunno, it sounds like he is really pussyfooting that thing. maybe it's the video or whatever but i don't think he's winding it up enough and fuck dude my wife can shift way better than that. no joke.

the vid with the dude wearing the darth vader mask...i dunno, it sounds like he is really pussyfooting that thing. maybe it's the video or whatever but i don't think he's winding it up enough and fuck dude my wife can shift way better than that. no joke.

not only that but the Z06 has a passenger which weighs atleast 150lbs+, while the GTR has no passenger...

Depends on the speed they raced from..

From 50 plus mph i easily yanked a 09 gtr worst than tailawag yanked tat 12. But from a 30 mph roll i barely edged out the stock gtr.

Tailawag races that 12 gtr again from a low roll and it will be much differant. Every factory stock 12 gtr is a low low low 11 car outta the box with any random person driving.

But it is wnat is is and from that 50 plus roll the gtr got yanked

not only that but the Z06 has a passenger which weighs atleast 150lbs+, while the GTR has no passenger...

Look again at the video. The GT-R in that vid had a passenger too so don't talk about weight. Its not like the Corvette already has a 700lb advantage lol.

Look again at the video. The GT-R in that vid had a passenger too so don't talk about weight. Its not like the Corvette already has a 700lb advantage lol.

if thats the case then i would like to see the in car video from the GTR...nowadays everyone has camera

Cam swap in the C6 Z and then run train on them ho's. lol

if thats the case then i would like to see the in car video from the GTR...nowadays everyone has camera

Look at :37 in that video. You can tell there is a passenger in the GT-R because the passenger is about 2 inches shorter than the driver and turned his or her head toward the Z06. 20/20 vision son!

As for the Camera thing, shit happens. Somebody could have forgot to take a video. And not everyone has a magic Z06 like you do lol.

Look at :37 in that video. You can tell there is a passenger in the GT-R because the passenger is about 2 inches shorter than the driver and turned his or her head toward the Z06. 20/20 vision son!

As for the Camera thing, shit happens. Somebody could have forgot to take a video. And not everyone has a magic Z06 like you do lol.

sure man whatever you say :jest:

no magic here just one good tuner and a decent driver, but this is isn't about me so lets not get off topic ;)

i guess it doesnt take much for a gtr to beat a c6z,good races!

its doesnt take much at all for the 2012 gtr to beat one . they lose no momentum shifting

A bone stock 12 gtr from a 30 roll will yank slowvette. 490 rwhp aint gonna cut it. 60 roll slowvette could get a w.

Prove me wrong if you can but id put money on this one after my experiences with gtrs and 500 rwhp z06s

A bone stock 12 gtr from a 30 roll will yank slowvette. 490 rwhp aint gonna cut it. 60 roll slowvette could get a w.

Prove me wrong if you can but id put money on this one after my experiences with gtrs and 500 rwhp z06s

Still on his nuts about him yanking all those modded Vipers I see :swing:

I'd walk that gtr easy.

SRT8 > lsx/jap technology.

A bone stock 12 gtr from a 30 roll will yank slowvette. 490 rwhp aint gonna cut it. 60 roll slowvette could get a w.

Prove me wrong if you can but id put money on this one after my experiences with gtrs and 500 rwhp z06s

i already got the W from a 60 roll against a 550whp GTR with a bad clutch.

and i made 480 not 490

That guy with the Vader mask was indeed "pussy-footing" it. :rotflmao: No doubt about it, also sounds like he was short-shifting. I recently test-drove a c6z and it sure would take practice to get good at, which I can do in my sleep with my c5, so I'm not dissing that particular driver. The video AWDTBSS posted much better shows someone who can shift a c6z the right way.

I'd walk that gtr easy.

SRT8 > lsx/jap technology.

I just about passed out reading this....and your sig haha

i already got the W from a 60 roll against a 550whp GTR with a bad clutch.

and i made 480 not 490


I beat a 600 awhp gtr from a 70 roll when I was 490. Whats your point?

Listen up. Getten tired of sayin this sh*t. From a 60 plus roll gtrs are slow. A stock gtr does 60-130 in 10.0 seconds. The 12 gtr does it in 8.5 seconds.

For referance a stock z06 does it in 8.2 seconds. From a 60 plus roll thet are nothing special.

But race one from 30-120 mph and even if its stock your racing an 11.5 second pre 12 gtr or an 11.1 second 12 gtr..


Those cars are completely jeckle and hyde when racing from a low or high roll

ok...sorry i quoted 0-60mph and quarter mile times killemall...how stupid of me to indulge you...and then what did you do, but the same thing i did ....and by the way, racing is not spelled without an E...this of course coming from someone who doesn't know a damn thing about racing, and like you ''never'' fudges your races with your car....sorry 'bout your damn luck...

I just about passed out reading this....and your sig haha

All these kids up in here are little league.

I'd walk every single one of them.

I beat a 600 awhp gtr from a 70 roll when I was 490. Whats your point?

Listen up. Getten tired of sayin this sh*t. From a 60 plus roll gtrs are slow. A stock gtr does 60-130 in 10.0 seconds. The 12 gtr does it in 8.5 seconds.

For referance a stock z06 does it in 8.2 seconds. From a 60 plus roll thet are nothing special.

But race one from 30-120 mph and even if its stock your racing an 11.5 second pre 12 gtr or an 11.1 second 12 gtr..


Those cars are completely jeckle and hyde when racing from a low or high roll

ijJgZWGO3VI

I've driven this GTR ( not in the video ) in Vegas at the track and this car is very fast and pulls real hard after the turbos spool. The car perfect in every way. Very fun to drive and the computer controls everything. Yeah you can put bolt ons the Z06 but just put a boast controller on the GTR and Bye bye. LOL

I beat a 600 awhp gtr from a 70 roll when I was 490. Whats your point?

Listen up. Getten tired of sayin this sh*t. From a 60 plus roll gtrs are slow. A stock gtr does 60-130 in 10.0 seconds. The 12 gtr does it in 8.5 seconds.

For referance a stock z06 does it in 8.2 seconds. From a 60 plus roll thet are nothing special.

But race one from 30-120 mph and even if its stock your racing an 11.5 second pre 12 gtr or an 11.1 second 12 gtr..


Those cars are completely jeckle and hyde when racing from a low or high roll

my point is to make you look like an idiot but you just do that to yourself

wow you actually count that race you had for 5 seconds a win?? :jest:

keep cutting videos short which is what you are good at!!! mybad you just delete them now!!!!!!!!!

your viper must have ubber top end for pulling harder the higher the roll :jest:, next time do 80 rolls!! you may pull harder :jest:

ijJgZWGO3VI

you are right killemall is a ricer!! how strange, a ricer driving a Viper :jest:

now i've heard it all!!!!!!:jest:

hey everyone unlike killemall, i have videos that are actually not cut, and haven't been taken down..this races were back when i was at 450rwhp!!!:jest:

it must kill you killemall to see this vid again

http://www.streetfire.net/video/08-viper-headscam-vs-intake-c6-z06_725525.htm

and this one against a 550+whp GTR that has trapped 132 at PBIR in West Palm Beach Florida

http://www.streetfire.net/video/c6-z06-vs-gtr-whks-570kit_718090.htm

Raceing got dammit. Raceing

I after e except after c?

Aint none of my races cut. I post wins and losses and have an equal amount of both. Ive raced more gtrs in the past year than many will ever.

Race a 12 gtr from a 30 roll and prove me wrong. You me and even a zr1 will behind the gtr.

Its nocoincidence that the gtr won the worlds greatest drag race. Go to the gtr forum and dead stock tbey are averageing 11.0 to 11.3 mph.

I wasnt a gtr belieaver till I raced Rskys stock 11 Gtr from a 30 roll. Sticking by my viper from 30-120 with just 420 awhp. From 60 yea I decentigrated him. But theirs still somthing to be said about those cars.

Prove me wrong. Race a stock 12 gtr from a 30 roll and beat it. I just think this will be much harder than many are aknowledging

Take this for what it is...ya run what ya brung, no excuses. No what if or Buts

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uDP7Pty8Qnw&feature=player_detailpage#t=15s

Aint none of my races cut. I post wins and losses and have an equal amount of both. Ive raced more gtrs in the past year than many will ever.

Race a 12 gtr from a 30 roll and prove me wrong. You me and even a zr1 will behind the gtr.

Its nocoincidence that the gtr won the worlds greatest drag race. Go to the gtr forum and dead stock tbey are averageing 11.0 to 11.3 mph.

I wasnt a gtr belieaver till I raced Rskys stock 11 Gtr from a 30 roll. Sticking by my viper from 30-120 with just 420 awhp. From 60 yea I decentigrated him. But theirs still somthing to be said about those cars.

Prove me wrong. Race a stock 12 gtr from a 30 roll and beat it. I just think this will be much harder than many are aknowledging


I have no freaking idea what you are trying to say. In one post you blast the GTR saying you owned it with like 200hp, then in another one you say it's impossible to beat?

after reading killemall's posts, it occured to me that an education is not necessary to afford vipers and corvettes. and all this time i thought i needed to have a phd or something to roll a viper.

that is all.

Last time I will say it and make it as plain as possible.

From a 60 mph roll the gtr pulls just like any other 420 to the wheels 3900 pound car. Meaning not that fast. (imagine ls3 vette with intake/exhaust)

From a 30 mph roll the 420 to the wheels gtr pulls like a 3200 pound 500 rwhp car. (imagine a ls7 vette with intake/exhaust)


Now to the 12 gtr.

From a 60 mph roll it pulls like a 480 to the wheels 3900 pound car (imagine stock ls7 vette)

From a 30 mph roll it pulls like a 550 rwhp 3200 pound car (imagine zr1 with no cats)


Its truly somthing to experience. These cars hit third gear before 60 mph. The agressive gearing plus seemless shifts plus awd make a stock 12 gtr only beatable from 30-130 by serious cars.

If you ever run into one lure him to a 50 plus mph start or youll be sorry

Since when do LS3s with intake/exhaust get 420rwhp?

[QUOTE=s346k;15651734]after reading killemall's posts, it occured to me that an education is not necessary to afford vipers and corvettes. and all this time i thought i needed to have a phd or something to roll a viper.

that is all.[/QUOTE

You can go buy a yellow one just like mine for 45k. I know people spending almost that much on new camaros ect. No edumacation required.

My vipers stepping up in performance real soon. Gonna be a zr1 eater..

2ssarme... Its too complicated to break down for you. Not trying to be offensive. But your just not grasping what Im saying

you never fudged any races...ooook...every time i seen a race of yours , if would just end anytime someone was starting to win....and racing is spelled like this, but who gives a shit...all i was trying to say was that road & track tested those three cars and that was what they had gotten...GTR quickest to 45mph...that was it and then you state '' you're tired of people talking about magazine times'' and then you go and do the same thing !!!!....hello kettle i'm black....you have a gorgeous viper dude, but your attention span is killing you...you make a big deal out of nothing....shit

You can go buy a yellow one just like mine for 45k. I know people spending almost that much on new camaros ect. No edumacation required.



You mean not everyone wants a used hot rodded car?

Can anyone tell me the point of this thread? 460rwhp to 550awhp in a race. Um NO SHIT whos going to win. De De Deeeeee!!!!

You can go buy a yellow one just like mine for 45k. I know people spending almost that much on new camaros ect. No edumacation required.

My vipers stepping up in performance real soon. Gonna be a zr1 eater..yeah, i know, i'm just giving you a hard time. you introducing positive manifold pressure to that beast, or what?

Can anyone tell me the point of this thread? 460rwhp to 550awhp in a race. Um NO SHIT whos going to win. De De Deeeeee!!!!

The same can be said for a 550 rwhp 3800 lb cobra and a 420 rwhp cammed ls3 vette.

Im putting on a 25 wet shot. Should be good for 1-2 mph higher traps.

Everyone better watch out!

Thanks about my car.

Im a big belieaver in buying used sports cars. 7 years ago I bought a brand new c5 vette for 51k. Took it the drag strip regurly and met many owners with c5s.

These guys had used 00s and 02s 99s ect. They paid 20s and 30s and the bottom line was that my new 04 looked exactly like theirs. Only differance was I paid 20k more so I could take the plastic off the seats. Felt like an idiot and will never buy a new sports car again.

When guys tell me they spent 39k on a brand new ss camaro the first thing that pops in my head is why the hell didnt he get a used ls3 09 vette? Or a 06 z06 or 03 viper?


Slowvette....... What can I say man. Perhaps one day we will meet on a long dusty road and the truth shall set you free. I am planning to move back to the states.

Because they wanted a slow car lol
Jk
Prolly just cause they wanted a new car and thought it looked cool (personally I think its ugly but its their money)

Um no TimThe same can be said for a 550 rwhp 3800 lb cobra and a 420 rwhp cammed ls3 vette.

ahhh well...it's good to see SLOW VETTE has seen what i and others seen in your video's...anytime you start getting pulled the video....ends...wow, who would have thought that possible...look up in the sky..it's super killemall...faster then a speeding veyron, able to leap tall buildings without downshifting and disguised as mild mannered dweeb, he always fights the good fight letting everyone out there that NOTHING can beat his viper...love your guy dude, but you really are full of yourself...and now your the ''pulling'' all of us...

Because they wanted a slow car lol
Jk
Prolly just cause they wanted a new car and thought it looked cool (personally I think its ugly but its their money)


I don't know about that I think they look good. I'd rock one! :D

http://blog.caranddriver.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/01/2012-Nissan-GT-R-placement2-626x382.jpg

ahhh well...it's good to see SLOW VETTE has seen what i and others seen in your video's...anytime you start getting pulled the video....ends...wow, who would have thought that possible...look up in the sky..it's super killemall...faster then a speeding veyron, able to leap tall buildings without downshifting and disguised as mild mannered dweeb, he always fights the good fight letting everyone out there that NOTHING can beat his viper...love your guy dude, but you really are full of yourself...and now your the ''pulling'' all of us...

Cant make everyone happy. Thats why I focus on makeing me happy. My car is 9 years old and still lookin good and decently fast. Thing is when your rockin a viper makin street racin videos with a mask on your gonna have some fans and some people who think your retarded. Whos right? I think both...

Bottom line is I try to contribute good videos to this section. Hit or miss its a fun hobby

I don't know about that I think they look good. I'd rock one! :D

http://blog.caranddriver.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/01/2012-Nissan-GT-R-placement2-626x382.jpg


I couldnt. If youve ever seen a gtr parked next to a nsx vette or viper it looks like a huge regular car. My vipers 47 inches tall. Vette is 48 inches. Fgt is 44 inches! (sick)

Gtr has to be 50 plus inches tall. To me the low widelook screams supercar while the gtr screams fast camry.

I respect the gtr for being a world class car. 11s quarter... 7s attne ring... 190s top speed. But at the cars and cofees ive attended it quickly disapeared

I couldnt. If youve ever seen a gtr parked next to a nsx vette or viper it looks like a huge regular car. My vipers 47 inches tall. Vette is 48 inches. Fgt is 44 inches! (sick)

Gtr has to be 50 plus inches tall. To me the low widelook screams supercar while the gtr screams fast camry.

I respect the gtr for being a world class car. 11s quarter... 7s attne ring... 190s top speed. But at the cars and cofees ive attended it quickly disapeared

Maybe to you but the sheer size, width and unique look screams different to me. And check this out. I went to a Caffeine and Octane event in Atlanta and there was a ZR1 parked next to a GT-R. None of the people paid attention to the ZR1 while everyone was asking questions about the GT-R. Just sayin'

I don't know about that I think they look good. I'd rock one! :D

I was talking about the 5th gen Camaro not the GTR :lol:

Maybe to you but the sheer size, width and unique look screams different to me. And check this out. I went to a Caffeine and Octane event in Atlanta and there was a ZR1 parked next to a GT-R. None of the people paid attention to the ZR1 while everyone was asking questions about the GT-R. Just sayin'





I hate to say this on this site but here goes.

Honestly you could park a 91 nsx worth 20k or a 92 viper worth 25k next to a 12 zr1 and by the end of the day the old viper/nsx would have generated 2 to 3 times more attention.


This is just the curse of the corvette. While we on this site and many other automotive forums appreciate the c6 z06 and zr1 as being somthing somewhat special (especially the zr1) the average 90 percent of americans who never visit these car sites just see another corvette c6 no differant than the one there brother, aunt or buddies at work have.

Honestly z06s at the cars and cofee ect might as well be camrys. Gtr as well. The gtr gets snuffed by the porshe owners rather quickly when they see how it looks in comparison to their 150k ptts. Almost everyones comment is its ugly or boreing and thats that.

But even the mass produced gtr at 12k a year is more special than any of the 30k vettes made a year. Simply put..... theres no entry level 50k gtr.

Love vettes. But they are just americas sports car

I dont know about a NSX getting more looks then a ZR1. I was at a Cars N Coffee meet today and there was a NSX and ZR1 the ZR1/Z06s got way more looks

i can understand that in this country most of us want to see cars from overseas as compared to what we see on a daily base's...as far as killemall says, well i guess some people would rather look a a nsx over a ZR1 !!!!....lolol not me...to each there own...there are some cras on this forum that are gorgeous and would much rather look at a beautiful f-body, vette, viper, shelby then any nsx...and for those people who hate the way the GTR looks, at 2.7 0-60 and a 11.1 quarter i would be happy...now a question killemall...how the hell does a viper beat a ZR1, when the ACR can even beat it...again yes magazine results...11.70 vs 11.21????...maybe in your world as a owner of a viper it does....and i did like the mask in the video...

The viper has been testedhead to head with the zr1 and is faster till 160 mph.

Look it up

the title should read stock C6Z06 vs GTR 550rwhp

road & track tested them together
-ZR1 0-60 3.3 0-100 7.4 1/4 mile 11.4@125.5
-09 Viper SRT10 0-60 3.4 0-100 8.2 1/4 mile 11.7@122.8

Car and Driver also got
-ZR1 0-60 3.4 0-100 7.6 0-150 16.4 1/4 mile 11.5@128
-Viper SRT10 ACR 0-60 3.4 0-100 7.7 0-150 17.5 1/4 mile 11.8@126

thanks AWDTBSS for that, 'cause he gets upset when you quote magazine times....pooooor baby...i have never heard of a viper beating a ZR1...the 600hp srt10 viper barely beat the Z06 , and lets not start at what RANGER ran with the ZR1...10.74 @133.00...if killemall owned the ZR1 it would be faster, what ever he has is better then what anyone else has...it's all about you, still trying to make us all believe your viper beats veyron's, agera's etc...now for the first time, you're actually ''pulling'' someone...you're viper is the only thing you have that makes you relavent...

Im just keepin it real. I dont own a 600 hp viper or zr1.

They are very close. They both walk away from stock z06s quite easily. Dont belieave any hype. Your average Z06 is a 125 mph carvwhen diven well. 126 is very good and 127 is amazeing.

The viper or zr1 will hit 127 with a novice driver.

Ive got some time to kill so ill find you some info.

Here you go. This is what it looks like when a mid 120s car races a high 120s car

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c2j5bDlir_g

Saddest part is the z06 wasnt stock like the viper. I know the owner and that blue viper went 10.9 at 130 mph stock on the stock oem rubber.

The reality is Ive beaten modded z06s back when I was just 470 rwhp. (got beat too) now at 500 rwhp a stock z06 is an easy lunch. The last 500 rwhp z06 i raced didnt have a passenger while i did and we both won a race and tied the third.

Thats a z06 with 50 rwhp over stock.

Now your telling me a stock 450 rwhp 3200 pound z06 is as fast as a 550 rwhp 3400 pound viper?

The viper beat the zr1 to 150 mph. 16.4 for the viper and 17.1 for the zr1. The viper also beat the zr1 on battle of the supercars to 60 mph and then 160 mph.

As well get it right. The viper didnt trap 122.8. It trapped 128 mph to the zr1s 127

Heres what corvette forum had to say when the viper and zr1 went head to head and the viper had a higher trap speed and was faster to 150 mph. Better you here it straight from them than me..

http://forums.corvetteforum.com/c6-corvette-zr1/2233667-zr1-vs-lp640-vs-sl65-black-vs-srt10-2.html

Ill leave with this. The viper and zr1 can both no bullsh$t get into the 130s stock



132 for the viper and 133 for the zr1 while the z06 has never eclisped 128. If youve ever been to a dragstrip 4-5 mph is a huge azz whoopin.

Love the z06. The recrd for my old viper is just 124 mph. 4 mph behind the z06 and nearly 10 mph behind the new viper and zr1.

So really Im not biased to any of these cars. Just trying to beat them like everyone else on this site. With my current mods ive got the z06 on lock but still not ready for the viper/zr1. But My plan starts tomorrow. Hopefully everything installed in the next week then zr1 huntin time!

I just posted magazine times that show the exact opposite lol

ZR1 > viper.

Even I can agree to that.

:jest::bs:I hate to say this on this site but here goes.

Honestly you could park a 91 nsx worth 20k or a 92 viper worth 25k next to a 12 zr1 and by the end of the day the old viper/nsx would have generated 2 to 3 times more attention.

killemall, i was talking about stock vs stock...now your strarting to sound like mystic...all he did was grab video's and say this or that....now here's something you hate...a magazine time...road & track : viper SRT10 ACR ;11.6@122.6...ZR1 11.5@128.7...AND THE ACR WAS THE QUICKER OF THE VIPER'S THEY PRODUCE...so that's why i added that...not a big difference, but a difference nontheless...''have i ever been to the track''????....i grew up in englishtown, NJ...raceway park, worked there...see i don't come on here and brag like ''some'' people do...it depends on who tests each car, i have seen ZO6's run 12.20 and a ford gt run 12.89...can we sat driver mod...can a ZR1 RUN HIGH 10'S...just ask ranger, i like viper's, but LOVE ZO6's and ZR1's...your turn...

here's a wrestlemania main event...in one corner we have ohioborn 80 and in the other corner killemall...can you imagine how long that thread would go...''IF YOU CAN SMELL WHAT KILLEMALL IS SMOKING''.......nsx???...nsx??? are you serious ??? you would compare that thing to the cars on this forum...wow...hey dude just pull the needle out...CAMARO98Z28 SAID IT BEST....LOLOLOLOLOLOL...

here's a wrestlemania main event...in one corner we have ohioborn 80 and in the other corner killemall...can you imagine how long that thread would go...''IF YOU CAN SMELL WHAT KILLEMALL IS SMOKING''.......nsx???...nsx??? are you serious ??? you would compare that thing to the cars on this forum...wow...hey dude just pull the needle out...CAMARO98Z28 SAID IT BEST....LOLOLOLOLOLOL...

I'm probably one of the few people on this board that think the NSX is an awesome and bad ass looking car, but I think he went a little too far with that comparison. I highly doubt a ZR1 is going to disappear next to those two cars.

MTN Z ..not putting the NSX down, it's just the things he says that do not make sense except to him...and with all the mods on your viper killemall you still do not believe that you can stay with a SRT10 viper or ZR1....i wouild have believed that you could...

Dont know. Would love to find out. Love my car but I dont think its 130 plus capable yet. New viper and zr1 defiently are.

Had many people tell me my nsx was better than my viper when they were side by side in my driveway. A 91 nsx vs a srt10 viper.

Some of you arent grasping. To many people the race car driver desighned one off exteriored nsx was a game changer in the automotive world.

To these people the nsx is a very special car that has a place in history that has been extinct now for 7 years. To them the zr1 is just another vette.

To me my srt was easily heads and shoulders above my nsx. It was easily worth twice the money and easily outperformed the nsx in every catergory on paper.

But still 75 percent told me the nsx was better when they saw them side by side. If it can steal attention away from a 90k viper that their are only 9k in the world of... Then it candefiently steal attention from a 115k vette that their are 10k in the world of (zr1) and another 200k clones of. C6/z51/z06.

You see c6s everyday.


To get back on somewhat topic. Head to head same day testing showed the viper to be faster. Yea you take differant test from differant days and anythings possible. But head to head the viper was faster.

What the hell are we bickering about anyways. Dayum. They both trap 130 plus mph.

Ones 3350 pounds and 550 rwhp fi
The others 3450 pounds and 550 rwhp na

You cant get any closer than that. Do you want the rarest and fastest super vette or do you want a viper. Just that simple. Zr1 could kinda blend in to traffic a lil easier than the viper, so really depends on your personality.

tl;dr

a srt10 viper will not walk away from a Z06...sorry have seen both of them in person and it's a heads up race...seen it live many times, with the slight edge going to the viper...though a ZR1 will start to pull on a Z06 at higher speeds even though the Z06 is less weight...also since 2006 the Z06 has put on a little weight, with '06 being the lightest C6Z06....and we're not bickering, we're talking cars...not asking if you're car traps 130mph, was just asking if you and a srt10 we're roll racing, i believe with the additional mods you've done you should be able to keep up...just my two cents...

and yes i agree with you about vipers standing out more in a crowd then a 'vette...more unique looking with the srt10 being the best looking , love that new hood...but i don't like standing out in a crowd, would much rather have a Z06, ZR1 or GRAND SPORT for that matter....i respect other's taste...you like vipers and i love corvettes, but would rather have a AVENTADOR then anything else, just wish it sounded as good as what it re-placed...

You don't like standing out...but you want an Aventador? :confused:

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