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Old 10-26-2011, 04:40 PM
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I have the mods listed in my sig and I'm planning on a pro charger. I do want to get as close to 500 whp as possible. So my question is p1 or d1? I also planned on the brute speed fmic kit with which ever one I get, for future mods. Also is it worth getting the 8 rib right away? I've seem belt slip at 400 hp. And if I get the brute speed d1 it will also be $200 cheaper than the p1 if I get the fmic and 8 rib on both... According to the site...
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Get the D1 and the 8 rib. It will give you room to grow later with out having to upgrade the blower or from 6-8 rib. Also resale will be better with the D1 and 8 rib than a P1 and 6 rib
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Dont know which car your adding it too but you need the 8-rib out of the gate, D1sc or even f1-d would work. Front mount is a good choice. And even with moddest boost 500 rwhp is a walk in the park. Good luck with your build.
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Originally Posted by dschmittie1
Get the D1 and the 8 rib. It will give you room to grow later with out having to upgrade the blower or from 6-8 rib. Also resale will be better with the D1 and 8 rib than a P1 and 6 rib
Thanks for the input! I was thinking the samething but I wanted to make sure I wasn't making the wrong decision.
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Originally Posted by fatmat80
Dont know which car your adding it too but you need the 8-rib out of the gate, D1sc or even f1-d would work. Front mount is a good choice. And even with moddest boost 500 rwhp is a walk in the park. Good luck with your build.
Lol yeah I need to fix that thanks. But it's the last car that ran 12.6. And I'm still running on a stock bottom end so I don't want to put an f1 yet, that's later and thanks I hope it goes well too.
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8-rib here on a D1SC, couldnt be happier. made 571rwhp on 5.5-6psi.
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Everyone has steered you correctly. Let me know if you have any questions on my kits. Thanks! Bob
Thanks I definitely will be doing that. Soon also can anyone give me a recommendation on injector size? I'm planning on the 340 pump.
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And one more thing if anyone knows, is the pin kit worth it at this stage or should I wait to see if the crank even spins I don't plan on going over 8 psi on this engine
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Definitely go 8 rib and a D1SC. After you put the kit on your gonna want more and the D1 will have quite a bit of room to go. I'd get some 60lb injectors. If you have the extra coin I would look into Lonnies Dual intank setup as far as fuel pumps go.
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Do 80's instead of 60's you might do a brute speed cam
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FWIW i made 523rwhp and 468tq with the basic P1 kit and 9lbs... But i bought the kit used for cheap..

If buying new i would defenitly go with the D1 and more importantly I would upgrade the standard J-braket to the Aster braket that i believe you can get as an upgrade from Bob@Brute with their kits.

As for fuel i would just get a walbro pump, the Hot Kit, and 60lb injectors

And one more thing... you might as well pin the crank
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i pinned my crank, its easy. and its highy recommended by bob .if for some reason that pulley slips on the snout of the crank, it can trash it. might as well spend the $100, and take the time and do it right.

i have a racetronix pump with the hotwire kit and 60# injectors and my car runs fine. i didnt drop any fuel pressure either.
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Run 60lb an hr injectors from the start and run dual 255 or dual GS-340's. That fuel system is tame enough for 500 wheel and capable of into the 700's as is. I would also recommend pinning the crank just because of how easy it is and how big the consequences are if it becomes a problem later on. Buy the better parts now and you won't kick yourself later wishing you did lol...IE: 8 rib kit, twin pumps, 60lb/hr injectors, crank pin. I ran 10psi with my stock bottom end, D1SC, 317 heads and a Z06 cam....with meth it made 590/563.
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Damn. I wonder why I made 100ftlb less torque. Kinda makes me mad lol
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Meth made a decent difference....I love the stuff...I swear I'm not a junkie....lol
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D1, front mount, 8 rib or spring tensioner, pin crank for sure. And most definatly bob at brute speed! He used to loan pin kits, call and see if he still does
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Make sure you have your mind set on what dampner your using before u pin your crank. If u use the ATI u will need the ATI side pin kit. I overlooked this and ordered the wrong one just tryin to save you some time.
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^ mine was a side pin also. I have the kit laying around with the drill bit and pin if u wanna buy it. let me know.
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Originally Posted by allout06
^ mine was a side pin also. I have the kit laying around with the drill bit and pin if u wanna buy it. let me know.
So what is the side pin kit? ... I've never really heard of a side pin kit.. :/

Also thanks everyone for the input it's really helping a lot in deciding everything...


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