Dyno Guesses & Bench Racing Forum - An SS vs a mustang, Who would win? [priceless noob question]




Thrdlife
12-06-2011, 04:34 PM
2000 SS has
- SLP intake
-ram air hood
-cat back straight pipe
- automatic
107k miles
2003 4.6 Mustang has
- 75 mm Throttle body
- BBK shorties and flowmaster 40's
- Cold air intake
- and the tune that is on it, is the tune from when he had a supercharger with a 4lbs pulley. A lil rich but not too bad.
- 5k miles on a new 4.6 motor [ he blew the old one with his v2 vortch ]


ULTIMATEORANGESS
12-06-2011, 05:00 PM
without his SC its no contest.

Thrdlife
12-06-2011, 05:28 PM
Yeah me and my buddy haven't raced yet but he is more then positive that he will smoke me... i believe he ran in the high 13's at the drag strip but he won't tell me. His first pass was a 14.2 and the fastest I saw was a 13.8


bestlude
12-06-2011, 05:30 PM
without his SC its no contest.

+1..

Did you just get your car?

Thrdlife
12-06-2011, 06:00 PM
Yeah just got it on saturday. it is an slp edition car with the zo6 rims picked it up for 5k even :nod:

86lxnotch
12-06-2011, 06:00 PM
you'll toast him w/o his blower on it unless one of two things occur.......you cant drive for chit or he is some miraculous driver. i believe neither will occur so youll win, coming from a mustang guy

Thrdlife
12-06-2011, 07:00 PM
Thanks, I just need to practice my launch >;]

BOBS99SS
12-07-2011, 05:22 AM
4.6 mustangs have to be some of the slowest cars ever made in near stock form, even with his mods i just dont see it beeing close, what does he have for gears? its not going to matter just asking. i have had a 4.6 before it took alot to get that thing moving.

BOBS99SS
12-07-2011, 05:23 AM
ram air hood doesnt add any power , just an appearance mod

98F-1camaro
12-07-2011, 08:17 AM
You should be able to win pretty easy. My buddy had an 03 with an off road H pipe, cat back, intake, and gears I think. best I could get out of that car was 13.8. My 98 Camaro with full exhaust (mid length headers) and a lid I was going ~13.1-13.3 (couldnt launch it good, never better than a 2.0 60ft).
(both these cars were sticks.)

Not to mention my Camaro was prob trapping close to 7 mph more (~110mph to his ~102mph I think)

BLK85
12-07-2011, 08:42 AM
Im actually going to go with driver's race, with the slight edge going to the SS.

hmorris7000
12-07-2011, 08:45 AM
mustang will win by 4 bus lengths that 4.6 is a monster on a supercharger tune :violin:

-Ross-
12-07-2011, 08:46 AM
I think it depends on traction and the gearing in the mustang.

-Ross-
12-07-2011, 08:47 AM
You should be able to win pretty easy. My buddy had an 03 with an off road H pipe, cat back, intake, and gears I think. best I could get out of that car was 13.8.

Your buddy's car was a pig or you're not including the fact the car had no traction off the line. A 13.8 (with a good launch) out of that car with those mods is pathetic. Auto or Manual?

Rawr256
12-07-2011, 08:58 AM
Providing you don't have the horrid Auto gears (can't remember them exactly) you should edge him out. Going to go with it being mostly a drivers race, if you go long enough though even if you botch the launch you will still come around him.

98F-1camaro
12-07-2011, 11:07 AM
Your buddy's car was a pig or you're not including the fact the car had no traction off the line. A 13.8 (with a good launch) out of that car with those mods is pathetic. Auto or Manual?

the 60' was prob around a 2.0 and it was a 5 speed. Im guessing as to what the mph was but I cant be sure since it was so long ago.

Maybe your thinking of a Cobra cause a stock 03 GT with, an h pipe, cat back, cold air intake, and some 3:73's is a pig.

As I recall those GT's were a decent race for an LT1, not an Ls1.

why87
12-07-2011, 11:13 AM
2000 SS has
- SLP intake
-ram air hood
-cat back straight pipe
- automatic
107k miles
2003 4.6 Mustang has
- 75 mm Throttle body
- BBK shorties and flowmaster 40's
- Cold air intake
- and the tune that is on it, is the tune from when he had a supercharger with a 4lbs pulley. A lil rich but not too bad.
- 5k miles on a new 4.6 motor [ he blew the old one with his v2 vortch ]

I'm going to guess you're about 16-17, and your buddy a few years older. If he ran a 13.8 with a s/c, I'd say without it its a drivers race.

metalmilitia606
12-07-2011, 11:21 AM
Yep driver's race for sure.

Thrdlife
12-08-2011, 03:09 PM
I'm going to guess you're about 16-17, and your buddy a few years older. If he ran a 13.8 with a s/c, I'd say without it its a drivers race.

Not exactly 16 or 17 but you close... Anyways he ran a 13.8 W/o the supercharger gonna run him from a 30 roll tonight.

30mph in the ls1 camaro is about the top of first gear? [auto]

I heard that the 2000slp autos have a slightly higher gearing then the other automatic camaros.

thunderstruck507
12-08-2011, 03:17 PM
Not exactly 16 or 17 but you close... Anyways he ran a 13.8 W/o the supercharger gonna run him from a 30 roll tonight.

30mph in the ls1 camaro is about the top of first gear? [auto]

I heard that the 2000slp autos have a slightly higher gearing then the other automatic camaros.

If you're gearing let's your car downshift into first gear from a 30mph roll you should be good. If it hangs itself in 2nd gear, you will get your ass handed to you off the bat and won't have time to catch up.

I suggest you make sure you know what your car is going to do before hand otherwise you will give him an ego.

doser1
12-08-2011, 10:40 PM
soo who won??? i think the camaro should of won use to be a ford guy and ls1's slighly modded would crush them 2v gt's modded now if he was saying a new 5.0 gt there would be nooooo way haha.. def from reading this was a drivers race...

Thrdlife
12-08-2011, 10:59 PM
I raced the mustang from a 40mph roll. I pulled on him but not by much probably half a car by the time i hit 90mph. Same results every race except one time we did a 15 roll and I walked the dog on the mustang after about 60mph he just gave up

thunderstruck507
12-09-2011, 08:40 AM
A ~40-45 roll with stock stall and stock gears is one of the worst races you can ever run. The next contender being a 70+ roll that won't kick from 4th to 2nd.

Bread and butter for an automatic is something that gets a good chunk of 1st gear. Once you get a stall a 50-55mph roll should be fairly aggressive too. That being said, save up for a 3600 converter, shift kit, and cooler. You will have an entirely different car.