View Full Version : Got the smack down from a c6 lol


senicalj4579
12-13-2011, 02:14 PM
My 01 ss in sig vs manual c6 (I have no idea what year)

Saw him coming up in the rearview. Intitial thought was "oh shit a c6 im all done" lol and it wasnt some old dude out for a drive that never wants to beat on his car either. It was some dude who was ready to race.

1st race.
So he pulled up to me at about 65mph he gives me 3 honks. I jumped out to about a car length lead right from the start because he was late on the gas. I wasnt paying attention to the speeds we went but I wanna say by the time 10 sec went by he was flying by me.

2nd race.
I pulled up to him and we did a 45mph roll. This time at the 3rd beep we were both dead on. I hung with him neck and neck for maybe 7 sec till he started to run away lol.

I knew I was going to get my ass handed to me but I was curious how bad I would get beat. I wonder how much better it would have been for me on the 1/4.

sujomatt
12-13-2011, 02:32 PM
You hung with a C6 for 7 seconds? I call BS on the time table lol. But good death standing your ground

senicalj4579
12-13-2011, 02:36 PM
The time estimates were totally guesstamates but I really believe it was at least 5sec we were door to door. Then he was gone lol

sweetC5
12-13-2011, 02:48 PM
Nice runs man, never back down... better to loose then to puss out! Unless there is traffic! Nice looking car bty, I love those rims. I had them on my 4th gen with 315s on back.

Sticks n Stones
12-13-2011, 03:08 PM
sounds like you ran into a LS2 C6. Good runs regardless. I do love those totally random street encounters that turn into close, worthy races.

senicalj4579
12-13-2011, 06:02 PM
Nice runs man, never back down... better to loose then to puss out! Unless there is traffic! Nice looking car bty, I love those rims. I had them on my 4th gen with 315s on back.

Thanks. I was actually the one that asked for it so he would have been the puss if nothing happened :lol: Usually everytime I see a vette its an old guy who drive it like a horse is pulling it. Yea I think the zr1s look just fine for my taste :)

sounds like you ran into a LS2 C6. Good runs regardless. I do love those totally random street encounters that turn into close, worthy races.

Yea most likely. Once we got up top a little he really took off.

LS1rob00
12-13-2011, 06:39 PM
Nice! Agreed on it being an LS2 C6, but you shouldn't be that scared haha. My buddy has one (his driving could use some work) but I was able to get him on a few runs that we did from a roll/dig. Did it sound modded or stock?

sweet99ss
12-13-2011, 06:53 PM
If you ran the times in sig with a higher d/a I would say it was an ls3, but with your mods it was probably an ls2. I run side by side with my friends ls2 vette with my z28 with full-bolts tell the very top end

sweet99ss
12-13-2011, 06:54 PM
Btw how fast did you go from the 45mph roll and how many lengths did he put on you?

MACH32V
12-13-2011, 06:54 PM
My 01 ss in sig vs manual c6 (I have no idea what year)
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I knew I was going to get my ass handed to me but I was curious how bad I would get beat. I wonder how much better it would have been for me on the 1/4.
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Op...If you went with that C6 from a dig at the track, you would have ET'd him pretty good running 11.9 with a 1.6 60'. The Vette would have playing catch-up with you...but coming fast due to your 112mph trap. :burn:

PBMGTO
12-13-2011, 07:22 PM
Nice death...11.9 @112 thats pretty fast for a bolt on fbod...must be a record. How much weight rdduction is done?

GXPPOWER
12-13-2011, 07:27 PM
11.9 with only 326 rwhp.... your car must have some serious weight reduction. it should take quite a bit more power to run that....?

Tyler Z28
12-13-2011, 08:15 PM
Nice death...11.9 @112 thats pretty fast for a bolt on fbod...must be a record. How much weight rdduction is done?

exactly my though i wish i could do :hail:11's with bolt on's and stall.

senicalj4579
12-13-2011, 08:25 PM
Nice! Agreed on it being an LS2 C6, but you shouldn't be that scared haha. My buddy has one (his driving could use some work) but I was able to
get him on a few runs that we did from a roll/dig. Did it sound modded or stock?

I would of loved to see what happens from a dig. Ill bet it would of looked even better for me.
I had my passenger window down on the 2nd run and all I could hear was my ory and borla sound bouncing off the side of his car lol. No, it didnt sound modded at all.

Also FWIW my car is 3200lbs and he did have a passenger in the car.


If you ran the times in sig with a higher d/a I would say it was an ls3, but with your mods it was probably an ls2. I run side by side with my friends ls2 vette with my z28 with full-bolts tell the very top end

Yes once we were more up top he started pulling and then freakin gone. My car was doing 12.0s in 60f weather. Da was +500 during that time.


Btw how fast did you go from the 45mph roll and how many lengths did he put on you?

Oh man like I said in original post I wasnt paying attention to the speeds but I can tell you once he started to pull he was freaking gone. On the first race I jumped out on him and the saw him pulling from behind. Once he started to pull I saw how fast it was gonna be over. So once he pased me I let out.


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Op...If you went with that C6 from a dig at the track, you would have ET'd him pretty good running 11.9 with a 1.6 60'. The Vette would have playing catch-up with you...but coming fast due to your 112mph trap. :burn:

Yea thats what I was thinking unless he was a super driver? See this is the times I wish I had a manual. Highway rolls and mpg.


Nice death...11.9 @112 thats pretty fast for a bolt on fbod...must be a record. How much weight rdduction is done?

Its far from a record dude. I dont even make the top 50 list. My car is 3200lbs without me. Im 210.
The same car did 12.0 in -1200 da full weight.
Heres the 2nd best 11.9 that same night.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WsG2UrUS7sw

http://ls1tech.com/forums/11-second-club/1473990-11-918-minor-boltons-ss3600-weight-reduction-vid-inside.html



11.9 with only 326 rwhp.... your car must have some serious weight reduction. it should take quite a bit more power to run that....?

Well slowhawks mustang dyno reads low so they say. My car dynoed 337rwh and 343rwt on another dyno before the stall.


exactly my though i wish i could do :hail:11's with bolt on's and stall.

Its really not that hard.

sepno77
12-13-2011, 10:03 PM
Auto ftl.

67RSCamaroVette
12-13-2011, 10:35 PM
He's got a stall, should do pretty well frum roll, compared to a stock stall in the dead spot. My 3200 TCS stall flashes QUICK, turbo spools instantly, and instant tire smoke.. does the same thing at 60.. a stall works wonders.

sweet99ss
12-13-2011, 11:07 PM
Auto ftl.

People who say that know nothing about cars. Just saying.... 45mph roll isn't the best spot to race an auto from either though. Either 25 or 55 is a good roll spot with 3.23's in f-bodies. Get a cam in there and you will be the one pulling up top!

sweet99ss
12-13-2011, 11:14 PM
Its really not that hard.

Easy for you to say lol. It isn't to hard in - d/a maybe, but when the best d/a you get is 2000 ft above it makes it a little more challenging. My brother is going for 11's with bolt-ons in 2500 ft d/a. If he ran in the negative d/a you had he would be 11.8's.

SincalT/A
12-13-2011, 11:32 PM
People who say that know nothing about cars. Just saying.... 45mph roll isn't the best spot to race an auto from either though. Either 25 or 55 is a good roll spot with 3.23's in f-bodies. Get a cam in there and you will be the one pulling up top!


Converter choice will make or break a autos sweet spot.With only a few mods my cars sweet spot is 1st 0-20 2nd 40-50 3rd pulls relatively hard from 80 up.Currently running a ss4000 with 3.23's but,I did run a Circle D 3200 which was better more at the top of each gear.

NiteRiderWS6
12-13-2011, 11:47 PM
I would of loved to see what happens from a dig. Ill bet it would of looked even better for me.
I had my passenger window down on the 2nd run and all I could hear was my ory and borla sound bouncing off the side of his car lol. No, it didnt sound modded at all.

Also FWIW my car is 3200lbs and he did have a passenger in the car.




Yes once we were more up top he started pulling and then freakin gone. My car was doing 12.0s in 60f weather. Da was +500 during that time.

Oh man like I said in original post I wasnt paying attention to the speeds but I can tell you once he started to pull he was freaking gone. On the first race I jumped out on him and the saw him pulling from behind. Once he started to pull I saw how fast it was gonna be over. So once he pased me I let out.




Yea thats what I was thinking unless he was a super driver? See this is the times I wish I had a manual. Highway rolls and mpg.




Its far from a record dude. I dont even make the top 50 list. My car is 3200lbs without me. Im 210.
The same car did 12.0 in -1200 da full weight.
Heres the 2nd best 11.9 that same night.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WsG2UrUS7sw

http://ls1tech.com/forums/11-second-club/1473990-11-918-minor-boltons-ss3600-weight-reduction-vid-inside.html





Well slowhawks mustang dyno reads low so they say. My car dynoed 337rwh and 343rwt on another dyno before the stall.




Its really not that hard.

I would say you right where you should be as far as times. My buddy had a 02 Z28 with full bolt ons, tune, gears and a SS3600 stall and he went 12.4@112 before the stall and 12.1@113 with the stall and DR's at full weight. Far from a record tho lol

NiteRiderWS6
12-13-2011, 11:51 PM
You hung with a C6 for 7 seconds? I call BS on the time table lol. But good death standing your ground

why BS? if it was a LS3 then maybe but a LS2 it sounds just about right. My old Full bolt on, Tuned WS6 ran dead even with many stock LS2 vettes up until about 120+ and then they would start a slight pull but noting to serious.

chriswildermuth
12-14-2011, 12:49 AM
Vettes are slow.

senicalj4579
12-14-2011, 07:31 AM
He's got a stall, should do pretty well frum roll, compared to a stock stall in the dead spot. My 3200 TCS stall flashes QUICK, turbo spools instantly, and instant tire smoke.. does the same thing at 60.. a stall works wonders.

Yep no doubt its better not only from a dig but highway speeds to. Very happy with the ss3600.

People who say that know nothing about cars. Just saying.... 45mph roll isn't the best spot to race an auto from either though. Either 25 or 55 is a good roll spot with 3.23's in f-bodies. Get a cam in there and you will be the one pulling up top!

Yea I wasnt going to respond to that comment. I dont bash manuals. Theres times I wish I had one...highway rolls and mpg but im happy with my auto most of the time. I beat up on cars with alot more power at stoplights its great. Dont have to worry about shifting when im with the lady getting a nice hummer its all good :)
Hell yea I want a cam. A good set of heads also :burn:


Easy for you to say lol. It isn't to hard in - d/a maybe, but when the best d/a you get is 2000 ft above it makes it a little more challenging. My brother is going for 11's with bolt-ons in 2500 ft d/a. If he ran in the negative d/a you had he would be 11.8's.

Oh yea dont get me wrong I understand that. Im not claiming my car is super freak or anything. It ran what it ran in the da it ran whatever lol.


Converter choice will make or break a autos sweet spot.With only a few mods my cars sweet spot is 1st 0-20 2nd 40-50 3rd pulls relatively hard from 80 up.Currently running a ss4000 with 3.23's but,I did run a Circle D 3200 which was better more at the top of each gear.

This was my first stalled auto. I was going to go with a pt4000 for these type of situations on the highway but was worried about going to big. So I went with ss3600. I love it but I wonder what the pt4000 would have been like.


I would say you right where you should be as far as times. My buddy had a 02 Z28 with full bolt ons, tune, gears and a SS3600 stall and he went 12.4@112 before the stall and 12.1@113 with the stall and DR's at full weight. Far from a record tho lol

He must have ran in some good da huh? My car before the stall full weight did 12.6 in -1000 da.
People usually assume I have a ss4000 stall when they see 11s. The car probably would of had 11s no problem with a 4k stall.
Yes I think I would of had to do a 11.7-11.6 to get on the top 50 stock internal. So still far from any record lol



why BS? if it was a LS3 then maybe but a LS2 it sounds just about right. My old Full bolt on, Tuned WS6 ran dead even with many stock LS2 vettes up until about 120+ and then they would start a slight pull but noting to serious.


Yea see thats the thing. After we were door to door once he started to pull it was no contest. The top end of that vette was strong. It wasnt a weak walk away more like a runaway lol

sujomatt
12-14-2011, 07:42 AM
why BS? if it was a LS3 then maybe but a LS2 it sounds just about right. My old Full bolt on, Tuned WS6 ran dead even with many stock LS2 vettes up until about 120+ and then they would start a slight pull but noting to serious.

I was at work with a headcold (still have it), I honestly forgot about LS2 C6's. I wasn't trying to be a dick or anything like that lol. :burn:

OP, where in CT are you from? I am in Glastonbury a stones throw from the pike. We should meet up this spring if you're down.

senicalj4579
12-14-2011, 07:49 AM
I was at work with a headcold (still have it), I honestly forgot about LS2 C6's. I wasn't trying to be a dick or anything like that lol. :burn:

OP, where in CT are you from? I am in Glastonbury a stones throw from the pike. We should meet up this spring if you're down.

Norwich :D
I was just in your town trying to get a job at hart mechanical on Mon.
Yea theres a couple other guys who wanna meet up from ct. We should all do that. Maybe even have a cruise up to the track or something :D

sujomatt
12-14-2011, 07:59 AM
Oh nice lol - I actually used to work at Computer Sciences Corporation in Norwich a few years back. The drive got old fast. I hate Route 2 lol

senicalj4579
12-14-2011, 08:14 AM
That must be in the industrial park? I dont mind rt2 theres lots of long straight aways. I get to your town 30-40 min not bad at all!

s346k
12-14-2011, 08:24 AM
but when the best d/a you get is 2000 ft above it makes it a little more challenging. My brother is going for 11's with bolt-ons in 2500 ft d/a. If he ran in the negative d/a you had he would be 11.8's.there is a lot of trut h the the da statement. my old a4 car went 12.0s @ 111 @ 2250' here in good old indiana. i never cared enough to get it out in the cold months. correcting to sea level is good for an idea, but i don't think it was that fast. the calculator i used said the car would've gone 11.7s @ 113. it still had a raceweight of over 3500lbs. da makes a difference in the outcome for sure, but trying to correct a time seems like something that is very hard to do. there are a lot of factors to consider. i think they correct too much.

i love stalled autos. m6s are great until you want a 1.5x 60', then you're looking at spending half the value of the car on parts just to withstand such a launch.

PBMGTO
12-14-2011, 09:13 AM
I would of loved to see what happens from a dig. Ill bet it would of looked even better for me.
I had my passenger window down on the 2nd run and all I could hear was my ory and borla sound bouncing off the side of his car lol. No, it didnt sound modded at all.

Also FWIW my car is 3200lbs and he did have a passenger in the car.




Yes once we were more up top he started pulling and then freakin gone. My car was doing 12.0s in 60f weather. Da was +500 during that time.




Oh man like I said in original post I wasnt paying attention to the speeds but I can tell you once he started to pull he was freaking gone. On the first race I jumped out on him and the saw him pulling from behind. Once he started to pull I saw how fast it was gonna be over. So once he pased me I let out.




Yea thats what I was thinking unless he was a super driver? See this is the times I wish I had a manual. Highway rolls and mpg.




Its far from a record dude. I dont even make the top 50 list. My car is 3200lbs without me. Im 210.
The same car did 12.0 in -1200 da full weight.
Heres the 2nd best 11.9 that same night.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WsG2UrUS7sw

http://ls1tech.com/forums/11-second-club/1473990-11-918-minor-boltons-ss3600-weight-reduction-vid-inside.html





Well slowhawks mustang dyno reads low so they say. My car dynoed 337rwh and 343rwt on another dyno before the stall.




Its really not that hard.

Thats pretty damn fast for a minor bolt on fbod...I was under the impression those were H/C/I type numbers. Wheres the nos?? :jest: I see your cutting a pretty good 60' so that prob helps a lot. Congrats!

senicalj4579
12-14-2011, 09:38 AM
Thats pretty damn fast for a minor bolt on fbod...I was under the impression those were H/C/I type numbers. Wheres the nos?? :jest: I see your cutting a pretty good 60' so that prob helps a lot. Congrats!

Thanks. Nahhh man theres tons of f bodies doing these times and better but like what has already been said the da has alot to do with it. If I ran in -1000 da like alot of the top 50 stock internal guys I bet I would of at least bumped #50 off the list. My car responds better to a drop in the da better than what the calculators say. Im guessing the cai ssra has alot to do with that.