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LSTransAm11
01-08-2012, 01:56 AM
Alright guys, i hate doing this but shes gotta go. I have to sell my 1999 Formula WS6. It is a true formula ws6 with around 38,xxx on it. It has been modded with 243 heads, cam, headers, slp exhaust and other parts along with some suspension pieces like a bmr panhard bar and other small things like that. I beat a 375rwhp 2010 camaro so I think it has around 400-425 at the wheels. It is red with dark grey cloth with the six speed and is also a hardtop. Interior is mint. It is a very clean car with no rust on the undercarrige or anywhere else. No accidents or marked title. This is a very clean ws6 formula that runs like a top with absolutely no other issues. I am just trying to see what I will be able to get out of it in the spring because I have to pay for college. Thanks for your input.

NC01TA
01-08-2012, 07:04 AM
If you can put it back to 'stock' or close to it, there is no reason why you can't get $10,000 for a very desireable low mileage 6 speed Formula WS6. As stated numerous times here in this section, the mods severely limit your buyer's market, especially with any type of engine work. Boasting of HP and mods will mostly appeal to only others in your age bracket, a group that generally has no cash to buy a nice car like yours. You may get lucky, but don't expect it. If you leave the car 'as is' I'm afraid you won't get close to that $10,000. You never know until you try. GLWS and college too!

LSTransAm11
01-08-2012, 06:22 PM
But what I dont understand is how regular ws6 trans ams with 80,000-100,000 miles are going for 12000-15000 and my car (not saying its some rare gem) with 38,xxx and being a ws6 formula hardtop isnt even worth 10? I did some research and Im not going to lie, its not as common as a trans am with only 175 total WS6 Formulas made in 1999. Thanks for your input though, I appreciate it.

ramairetransam
01-08-2012, 07:03 PM
Worth probably around 12-13

gs462
01-08-2012, 07:08 PM
But what I dont understand is how regular ws6 trans ams with 80,000-100,000 miles are going for 12000-15000 and my car (not saying its some rare gem) with 38,xxx and being a ws6 formula hardtop isnt even worth 10? I did some research and Im not going to lie, its not as common as a trans am with only 175 total WS6 Formulas made in 1999. Thanks for your input though, I appreciate it.

Same reason my 86 ttype which they made less that 6000 is worth way less than a 87 gn which they made 24k of people want the flashy big name.

LSTransAm11
01-09-2012, 02:38 AM
Thanks for all the input guys, I appreciate it.

NC01TA
01-09-2012, 10:04 AM
I don't think you are seeing actual sales of those Trans Ams you are talking about, just asking prices and not realistic ones. I have no knowledge of 80,000 - 100,000 miles WS6 T/A's selling for that money. You are mistaken.

LSTransAm11
01-09-2012, 01:55 PM
Well I have been offered 12500-13000 by numerous people sight unseen so I think you are mistaken but thanks for your insight.

gs462
01-09-2012, 05:35 PM
Well I have been offered 12500-13000 by numerous people sight unseen so I think you are mistaken but thanks for your insight.

I agree I purchased my 02 SOM WS6 M6 this summer and It cost me 13K with just under 80K miles

NC01TA
01-09-2012, 06:25 PM
I agree I purchased my 02 SOM WS6 M6 this summer and It cost me 13K with just under 80K miles

An '02 with a very desireable color vs a '99 isn't exactly the same car. You paid correctly. Show me a '99 T/A WS6 with 80,000 - 100,000 miles (isn't that what we are talking about??) that sold for $13,000 in the past year and it will confirm the adage, " A fool and his money are soon parted." The OP is talking about his modded '99 that has very little collector interest with the mods he mentioned. My advice and opinion earlier posted still stands. For further info consult www.kbb.com for '99 pricing info vs '02 pricing info. The model years matter a great deal. You can't lump the '98- '02 years together. The below links should show you the difference with 80,000 mile cars used as an example.

http://www.kbb.com/pontiac/firebird/1999-pontiac-firebird/trans-am-coupe-2d/?vehicleid=5954&intent=trade-in-sell&mileage=80000&category=hatchback&options=227264%7ctrue%7c227260%7ctrue&pricetype=private-party&isnotabs=true
http://www.kbb.com/pontiac/firebird/2002-pontiac-firebird/trans-am-coupe-2d/?category=hatchback&intent=trade-in-sell&pricetype=private-party&condition=&quizconditions=&options=4093681|true&path=&vehicleid=348215&mileage=80000

OP, I wish and hope you do get big $$ for your car but don't expect it. Also what people say they will pay, and what they actually hand over in cash, are two entirely different things. Lord knows how many times someone has told me they will pay me big money for one of my rides. I say, "OK, bring it over." Never hear from them again. Nothing but BS. You'll see, unless you get very fortunate. You wanted opinions and I'm going to back mine up when an opposing view is aired. Been on top of the LT1, LS1 pricing game since I bought my first new '96 Formula over 15 years ago. Collector cars much longer than that. Your car, my 25,000 miles T/A, many cars here are worth $15,000+++ but when you need to sell, worth means nothing. Actual sales figures is all that matters.

NC01TA
01-09-2012, 07:06 PM
Not to get you depressed but here are some other '99 LS1 examples NOT selling at the moment, including a rare 6 speed '99 Firehawk. Even a sweet one -owner T/A 'vert (not a WS6) with only 28k miles that hasn't even hit $10,000 yet:


http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1999-Pontiac-Firebird-Trans-Am-WS6-Auto-Red-T-tops-Only-40K-miles-Florida-/230726312590?pt=US_Cars_Trucks&hash=item35b85c228e

http://www.autotrader.com/fyc/vdp.jsp?ct=p&car_id=302498668&dealer_id=66413703&car_year=1999&systime=&doors=&model=&search_lang=en&start_year=1999&keywordsfyc=&keywordsrep=&highlightFirstMakeModel=&search_type=used&distance=0&min_price=&rdm=1326156918038&drive=&marketZipError=false&advanced=y&fuel=&keywords_display=&lastBeginningStartYear=1981&end_year=1999&showZipError=n&make2=&certified=&engine=&dma=GREENVILLE-SPART-ASHEVILLE_ASH&page_location=findacar%3A%3Aispsearchform&body_code=0&isFlashPlugin=true&transmission=Manual&default_sort=priceDESC&max_mileage=100000&color=&address=28744&sort_type=priceDESC&max_price=&make=PONT&seller_type=b&num_records=25&cardist=1925&standard=false


http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1999-Trans-AM-Convertible-/190624015364?pt=US_Cars_Trucks&hash=item2c6213a404

This is the real market you are up against when you try to sell your modded Formula. Tough sledding in a tough economy. It's an eye-opener :eek: