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TriShield
01-08-2012, 01:58 PM
2013 Cadillac ATS Challenges the Status Quo

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• All-new, lightweight, rear-wheel-drive architecture with one of the lowest curb weights in the segment – 3,400 pounds (1,542 kg)
• Broad lineup of engines, including two four-cylinders and a V-6 for North America, capitalizes on lightweight structure for performance with efficiency
• Cadillac CUE, a comprehensive, in-vehicle experience that merges intuitive design with auto industry-first controls and commands for information and entertainment data

DETROIT – Cadillac today introduced the 2013 ATS, an all-new compact luxury sports sedan intended to challenge the world's best premium cars. Developed on an all-new, lightweight vehicle architecture, Cadillac's entry into the world's most significant luxury car segment goes on sale this summer.

The rear-drive ATS brings Cadillac's blend of technologically driven performance, elegance and design to a new audience of spirited drivers. Its sophisticated driving experience is enhanced with Cadillac CUE, a comprehensive, in-vehicle user experience that merges intuitive design with industry-first controls and commands for information and media data.

"Designed with quick, nimble and fun-to-drive dynamics, ATS expands Cadillac's portfolio into a crucial global segment," said Don Butler, vice president of marketing for Cadillac. "For a new group of luxury consumers, this is a car that will fit their lifestyle and challenge the segment's status quo."

The Cadillac ATS is a new expression of Cadillac's Art & Science execution philosophy, built on a foundation of driving dynamics and mass efficiency. It is the most agile and lightweight Cadillac, with one of the lowest curb weights in the segment – less than 3,400 pounds (1,542 kg).

Germany's famed Nürburgring served as one of the key testing grounds, along with additional roads, racetracks and laboratories around the globe, ATS engineers balanced performance with Cadillac's trademark refinement.

Contributing components and features include:

• Nearly 50/50 weight balance
• Cadillac's first five-link independent rear suspension using lightweight, high-strength steel and efficient straight link designs
• A multi-link double-pivot MacPherson-strut front suspension with direct-acting stabilizer bar
• Driver-adjustable FE3 sport suspension with Magnetic Ride Control real-time damping
• Underbody aerodynamic shields
• Premium (belt driven) electric variable-effort steering gear from ZF Steering Systems
• Four-channel ABS with available Brembo performance brakes
• Available all-wheel drive

"More than just another new entry, the ATS aims to change the status quo of the European-dominated segment," said Butler. "That is why our approach in all elements of its development is so extensive and focused."

A broad lineup of engines – including two four-cylinders and a V-6 for North America – delivers strong power to the ATS and capitalizes on the car's lightweight structure to complement its performance with efficiency. The optional engines include an all-new 2.0L turbocharged four-cylinder rated at 270 horsepower (201 kW) and Cadillac's award-winning 3.6L V-6, estimated at 318 horsepower (237 kW).

At 135hp/L, the new 2.0T is one of the most power-dense engines in the industry, topping engines from European competitors. ATS will offer both manual and automatic transmission options, along with rear-wheel and all-wheel-drive configurations.

The ATS will deliver peak highway fuel economy of more than 30 mpg.

A spirit of lightness and balance

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Making the ATS one of the segment's lightest cars was a fundamental criterion for and the guiding principle during its development, but it was done in a nuanced manner that ensures a refined driving experience.

"Low weight gives the ATS a more nimble and controllable feel, while also optimizing the performance and efficiency of the powertrains," said David Masch, ATS chief engineer. "But we were careful to manage the weight while maintaining Cadillac's signature levels of refinement."

Optimizing the ATS's mass was the result of a four-pronged philosophy that included strict adherence to original architectural goals, measured load management throughout the vehicle, benchmarking components to see if lighter solutions were available and an overall culture that "weighed" the mass of every component in the car against all aspects of its development.

An aluminum hood, magnesium engine mount brackets and even lightweight, natural-fiber door trim panels contribute to the ATS's low overall mass – and reflect the systematic approach of evaluating every gram that went into the car. But some weight was deemed not only beneficial, but essential to the ATS's driving experience. An example is the cast iron differential: Engineers found they could improve fuel economy with a cast iron differential rather than a lighter aluminum version.

And while the rear suspension is mostly steel, the focus on load management and straight links enabled significant weight savings without using alternate materials. This helps offset the weight of the engine and transmission at the front of the vehicle, helping the ATS deliver its near-perfect 50/50 weight balance, while also contributing to lower noise and vibration. A similar approach was taken on the wheels, where extra structural aluminum was strategically added to further reduce vibration.

"We approached development by counting all the grams in the ATS," said Masch. "We minimized them where we could and put them to the best use where they were needed."

Tailored design weaves in signature style and refinement

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The 2013 Cadillac ATS interprets Cadillac's Art & Science design language in a new proportion, tailoring the signature styling and refinement cues for the most compact Cadillac while upholding – and advancing – the exemplary attention to detail and technological elements for which the brand is known.

A long, 109.3-inch (2,775 mm) wheelbase and wide front/rear tracks are the cornerstones of the ATS's firmly planted stance, which is enhanced by short overhangs and taut sheet metal that appears to wrap tightly around the tires. Seventeen-inch wheels are standard and 18-inch wheels are available.

Bold vertical lighting elements – including new LED front signature lighting detail – as well as illuminating door handles and active grille shutters lend technologically advanced style and function to the ATS. The grille shutters close at certain highway speeds to reduce aerodynamic drag and enhance fuel economy.

A driver-focused interior with integrated technology and crafted materials complements the exterior elements and supports the ATS's driving experience. Everything from the placement of the pedals to the position of the shifter is designed for effortless and intuitive performance driving. Available performance seats have power-adjustable bolsters to optimize lateral support during high-load cornering.

Contributing to the interior's intuitive feel is an instrument panel that wraps into the doors and a center stack in the mid-instrument panel that flows into the center console. LED lighting for the bold gauge cluster enables clear, at-a-glance viewing in all lighting conditions, while ambient lighting accents functional elements of the console and doors.

Real wood, plated metal plating and carbon fiber trim and Cadillac's cut-and-sew cut-and-sew instrument panel, console and doors enhance the emotional connection to the ATS. Choices of many interior color themes, each with unique accent trim material, cover a wide range of flavors – from light, open and warm to black and serious, to bold, technical and sporty.

TriShield
01-08-2012, 01:59 PM
CUE and ATS technologies

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The ATS is offered with Cadillac CUE, a comprehensive, in-vehicle experience that merges intuitive design with auto industry-first controls and commands for information and entertainment data. It is designed to be unique for each consumer, from the "simple user" to the fully connected "super user."

CUE, which stands for Cadillac User Experience, pairs entertainment and information data from up to 10 Bluetooth-enabled mobile devices, USBs, SD cards and MP3 players with a vehicle infotainment system that reduces complexity through customized information, voice commands and fewer buttons and larger icons. For example, most of today's luxury cars have around 20 buttons controlling the radio and entertainment functions. CUE has only four.

The heart of CUE is the eight-inch LCD multi-touch sensitive screen, seamlessly integrated into the top of the central instrument panel and a motorized fully capacitive faceplate at the bottom concealing a 1.8L storage area. The vibrant LCD screen displays CUE's home page, which resembles a smart phone's screen by using large, easy-to-target icons to execute commands. Capacitive technology refers to using electrodes to sense the conductive properties of objects, such as a finger.

In addition to CUE, the ATS is offered with other technologies, including:

• Bluetooth phone connectivity with voice recognition
• USB, auxiliary and SD memory card ports
• SiriusXM Satellite Radio with three-month trial subscription
• Keyless access and keyless push-button start
• Reconfigurable 5.7-inch instrument panel cluster display
• Full-color reconfigurable heads-up display.

The ATS is offered as a well-equipped standard model and in Luxury, Performance and Premium Collections. A Bose® Cabin Surround audio system is offered on the standard model, as well as Luxury and Performance Collections. It is standard with the Premium Collection. A navigation system is also available with Luxury and Performance Collections and standard with the Premium Collection.

'Control and alert' safety strategy

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Safety in the ATS is based on Cadillac's "control and alert" strategy that employs advanced technologies – including radar, cameras and ultrasonic sensors – to help prevent crashes.

The safety features bolster driver vision and awareness of road hazards, and intervenes to help the driver avert potential crashes. In some cases, Cadillac's advanced crash-avoidance systems will act without the driver, such as automatic braking, which will activate based on information indicating potential hazards.

Among the most sophisticated of the features is Front and Rear Automatic Brakes. This relies on short-range radar technology and ultrasonic sensors to help the driver prevent front and rear low-speed collisions via a progression of alerts that extend to complete braking, if necessary.

Optional advanced safety features include:

• Full Speed Range Adaptive Cruise Control
• Intelligent Brake Assist
• Forward Collision Alert
• Brake Pre-Fill Automatic Collision Preparation
• Lane Departure Warning
• Side Blind Zone Alert
• Rear Vision Camera With Dynamic Guidelines
• Adaptive Forward Lighting
• Hill Hold/Start Assist (standard, manual transmission)

The advanced technology safety features complement the ATS's roster of other safety features, including eight standard air bags (10 with optional features), safety belt pretensioners and load limiters, StabiliTrak electronic stability control system with traction control and four-wheel disc brakes with four-channel ABS.

ATS also features OnStar standard for one year. It can use GPS and cellular phone technology to automatically call for help in the event of a crash. OnStar service also includes myCadillac and OnStar myLink mobile apps, which offer vehicle information, controls and OnStar services via the customer's iPhone or Android smart phone.

About Cadillac

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Cadillac has been a leading luxury auto brand since 1902. In recent years, Cadillac has engineered a historic renaissance led by artful engineering and advanced technology. More information on Cadillac can be found at media.cadillac.com.

2013 CADILLAC ATS PRELIMINARY SPECIFICATIONS

Model: Cadillac ATS Sedan
Body style / driveline: 4-door luxury sport luxury sedan, RWD/AWD
Construction: Unitized welded steel body with direct-mounted front cradle and rubber-isolated, multi-link independent rear suspension
EPA vehicle class: small car
Manufacturing location: Lansing Grand River Assembly, Lansing, Mich.

Engines

2.0L Turbo DI VVT 2.5L I-4 DI VVT 3.6L V-6 DI VVT
Displacement (cu in / cc): 122 / 1998 150 / 2457 217 / 3564
Bore & stroke (in / mm): 3.39 x 3.39 / 86 x 86 3.46 x 3.97 / 88 x 101 3.7 x 3.37 / 94 x 85.6
Block material: cast aluminum cast aluminum cast aluminum
Cylinder head material: cast aluminum cast aluminum cast aluminum
Valvetrain: DOHC, four-valves per cylinder, continuously variable valve timing DOHC, four valves per cylinder, continuously variable valve timing DOHC, four valves per cylinder, continuously variable valve timing
Fuel delivery: direct high-pressure fuel injection direct high-pressure fuel injection direct high-pressure fuel injection
Compression ratio: 9.2:1 11.4:1 11.5:1
Horsepower (hp / kW @ rpm): 270 / 201 @ 5300 (est) 200 / 149 @ 6200 (est) 318 / 237 @ 6800 (est - gas)
Torque (lb-ft / Nm @ rpm): 260 / 353 @ 2400 (est) 188 / 255 @ 4500 (est) 267 / 362 @ 4900 (est - gas)
Recommended fuel: premium recommended but not required regular unleaded regular unleaded or E85
Maximum engine speed (rpm): 6350 7000 7200
Estimated fuel economy: TBD TBD TBD

Transmissions

Tremec M3L TR3160 Hydra-Matic 6L45
Type: fully synchronized six-speed manual with single overdrive six-speed, electronically controlled, automatic overdrive with torque converter clutch
Gear ratios (:1):
First: 4.12 4.06
Second: 2.62 2.37
Third: 1.81 1.55
Fourth: 1.30 1.16
Fifth: 1.00 0.85
Sixth: 0.80 0.67
Reverse: 3.75 3.20
Final drive ratio: 3.27 3.27 (2.5L, 3.6L)
3.45 (2.0T)

Chassis / Suspension

Configuration: rear-wheel drive
Differential: open (FE2 suspension); mechanical limited-slip (FE3 suspension)
Front: MacPherson-type with dual lower ball joints and direct-acting stabilizer bar; Magnetic Ride Control (FE3)
Rear: independent five-link with monotube shock absorbers; Magnetic Ride Control (FE3)
Steering type: ZF rack-mounted electric, power-assisted and variable assist
Steering ratio: FE2: 16.8:1
FE3: 15.3:1
Steering turns, lock-to-lock: FE2: 3.16
FE3: 2.86
Turn circle (ft / m): FE2 RWD: 36.38 / 11.09
FE3 RWD: 35.99 / 10.97
FE2 AWD: 38.05 / 11.60
Chassis control: four-channel StabiliTrak w/ brake assist and traction control

Wheels and Tires

Wheel size and type: 17x8-inch aluminum (painted)
17x8-inch aluminum (polished)
18x8-inch aluminum (machined-face)
18x8-inch aluminum (polished)
Tire size: P225/45R17 90H all-season
P225/45R17 90V run-flat all-season
225/40R18 92V run-flat all-season
225/40R18 88W / 255/35R18 90W run-flat summer-only
225/35ZR19 88Y / 255/30ZR19 91Y run-flat all-season (LPO)

Brakes

Type: four-wheel disc with sliding calipers on base; four-channel ABS/TCS w/ DRP; Brembo brakes with fixed calipers on Luxury, Performance and Premium collections
Rotor type and thickness (in / mm): Standard front: 11.8 x 1.02 (300 x 26) vented, with Ferritic Nitro Carbunized process for corrosion resistance
Standard rear: 12.4 x 0.90 (315 x 23) vented, with Ferritic Nitro Carbunized process for corrosion resistance
Uplevel front: 12.6 x 1.18 (321 x 30) vented, with Ferritic Nitro Carbunized process for corrosion resistance
Uplevel rear: 12.4 x 0.90 (315 x 23) vented, with Ferritic Nitro Carbunized process for corrosion resistance

Dimensions

Exterior
Wheelbase (in / mm): 109.3 / 2775
Length (in / mm): 182.8 / 4643
Height (in / mm): 55.9 / 1421
Width (in / mm): 71.1 / 1805
Track (in / mm): front: 59.5 / 1512
rear: 60.9 / 1548
Curb weight (lb / kg): 3,400 / 1,542 (approx.)
Weight distribution (% front / rear): 51 / 49

Interior
Legroom (in / mm): front: 42.5 / 1079
rear: 33.5 / 851
Headroom (in / mm): front: 38.6 / 980
rear: 36.8 / 935
Shoulder room (in / mm): front: 55.2 / 1345
rear: 53.9 / 1370
Hip room (in / mm): front: 53.0 / 1345
rear: 52.3 / 1328

Capacities

Seating capacity (front / rear): 2 / 3
EPA passenger volume (cu ft / L): 90.9 / 2573
EPA trunk volume (cu ft / L): 10.2 / 290
Trailer towing maximum (lb / kg): 1000 / 454 (3.6L)
Fuel tank (gal / L): 16 / 60.5
Engine oil (qt / L): TBD
Cooling system (qt / L): 8.1 / 7.7 (2.0T)
7.1 / 6.7 (2.5L)
11 / 10.4 (3.6L)

DropTopBird
01-08-2012, 02:40 PM
Definitely a cool little car. Nothing that would make me twist my neck like the cts coupe, but still looks sharp. If the new camaro can keep its weight in line with this and throw in a nice gen 5 v8, that would be amazing. And please please please let them put the touch screen information system in it, even if its part of an optional tech package. I feel like thats the one thing a lot of gm cars are missing.

LS1LT1
01-08-2012, 07:40 PM
Wow, very impressed with the final product, I like it. :cool:

justin455
01-08-2012, 08:04 PM
Hell yeah, 3,400lbs! And people were saying it was gonna weight just as much as the Camaro. I'll take one with the LNF and a tune.

TransAmWS.6
01-08-2012, 08:28 PM
Not bad, maybe I missed it but is this going to replace the CTS?

TriShield
01-08-2012, 08:48 PM
Not bad, maybe I missed it but is this going to replace the CTS?

No, slots in under the CTS in every respect. The next CTS will grow in size to be more directly aimed at the BMW 5-Series and cars of that class.

xX-Z28-Xx
01-08-2012, 08:52 PM
2 door > 4 door.

Latch
01-08-2012, 09:08 PM
Kudos to GM for getting the weight down. :cheers:

djsanchez2
01-08-2012, 09:18 PM
3400lbs.... :eek: :hail: :hail:

Looks like they were listening. Now if they can add a V8 and TR6060 and keep the weight under 3550 we will be golden! They could even take out some oft he luxury items and shoot for under 3400lbs, that would be sick! Now that's a Camaro i would buy!

metalmilitia606
01-08-2012, 09:25 PM
The awd should make it to the camaro if they go that route. I would drive a boosted awd v6 camaro.

DiscerningZ32
01-08-2012, 09:43 PM
Looks good.
I think the current cts looks better... but this looks good.

DoggyB22
01-09-2012, 02:47 AM
Here's a video of it driving...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=capR4abYuoM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mrlEslW0kQo

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TbhVGY2CWgw&feature=relmfu

Cue technology..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JvzIrzFFH_Y&feature=relmfu

Mr.Powers
01-09-2012, 06:54 AM
Looks neat... Really wish they would stop using the McPherson Strut systems though.

Z Fury
01-09-2012, 09:07 AM
I'm absolutely stunned by the weight of this car. Estimates for this platform had it ballooning up to about 3700 pounds and more. This makes me very excited to see a V model and the new Camaro.

WarShrike
01-09-2012, 09:49 AM
If it really is at 3400 with all those bells and whistles, it is worth it!

If they can do the same with the next gen Camaro, the performance enthusiasts are gonna love it and the vehicle efficiency ratings will also benefit.

It seems GM is listening and figuring some things out about their current weight issues. Keep it up guys.

whytryz28
01-09-2012, 10:18 AM
Very nice weight.

TriShield
01-09-2012, 10:29 AM
If it really is at 3400 with all those bells and whistles, it is worth it!

We actually don't know because nothing in the press release specifies what ATS model weighs "around" 3,400lbs. I would put money on that it isn't the 3.6L version most people will buy.

It's also worth noting the BMW 3-Series is about the same size and weighs less over the whole model range with the top 3-Series twin-turbo coming in shy of 3,600lbs.

TriShield
01-09-2012, 10:46 AM
This is how retarded a RWD, ATS-based Camaro could look.

http://www.blogcdn.com/www.autoblog.com/media/2012/01/chevrolet-code-130r-concept-detroit.jpg

The Chevrolet Code 130R concept. Oh my.

88blackgt
01-09-2012, 10:56 AM
I'm absolutely stunned by the weight of this car. Estimates for this platform had it ballooning up to about 3700 pounds and more. This makes me very excited to see a V model and the new Camaro.

I saw this as well, but if this is correct it should be a very competent car.

justin455
01-09-2012, 10:59 AM
This is how retarded a RWD, ATS-based Camaro could look.


The Chevrolet Code 130R concept. Oh my.

Something tells me that even if they switch the Camaro to the ATS platform, it won't look anything like that and will be more of a design evolution, not a fresh start.

Z Fury
01-09-2012, 12:03 PM
Something tells me that even if they switch the Camaro to the ATS platform, it won't look anything like that and will be more of a design evolution, not a fresh start.

Agreed. Also, that 130R is hideous.

jmurray87
01-09-2012, 12:40 PM
They also confirmed that this car will have a Diesel option in its first year.

http://www.autoblog.com/2012/01/08/2013-cadillac-ats-debuts-in-detroit-diesel-engine-confirmed/

DoggyB22
01-09-2012, 03:00 PM
Yea some new concepts... Looks like the next couple years are going to be pretty interesting with GM! :) Lets just hope the world doesn't end in December

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XnPmH5DRGJE

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NESSzyImkdQ&feature=g-all-u&context=G2341265FAAAAAAAALAA

MI-Z/28
01-09-2012, 07:59 PM
I like the dimensions and weight. Can't wait to see what a GenV small block can do in it when the next gen Camaro is released. Going to be a long wait though.

HioSSilver
01-09-2012, 09:44 PM
This is how retarded a RWD, ATS-based Camaro could look.

http://www.blogcdn.com/www.autoblog.com/media/2012/01/chevrolet-code-130r-concept-detroit.jpg

The Chevrolet Code 130R concept. Oh my.

That's a cool little car if it's rwd.

I'm glad to see they will offer it in awd. I want a awd camaro.

deft
01-10-2012, 11:19 AM
I'm not sure they'd ever make the camaro in AWD. That would be pretty weird and cool, but I doubt it would happen.

mac62989
01-10-2012, 11:34 AM
Very excited by what I just read. The previous pictures I saw of a potential ATS-V looked much better than this though.

LS1LT1
01-10-2012, 12:31 PM
It's also worth noting the BMW 3-Series is about the same size and weighs less over the whole model range with the top 3-Series twin-turbo coming in shy of 3,600lbs.Well, let's not forget about the M3 convertible, well over 4100 pounds. :eek: :nono:

DoggyB22
01-10-2012, 09:48 PM
This is how retarded a RWD, ATS-based Camaro could look.

http://www.blogcdn.com/www.autoblog.com/media/2012/01/chevrolet-code-130r-concept-detroit.jpg

The Chevrolet Code 130R concept. Oh my.

To me it kind of looks like a BMW 135i.....

Z Fury
01-11-2012, 10:57 AM
To me it kind of looks like a BMW 135i.....

I agree. It does have a BMW look to it, but a horrible twist to a BMW.

Wnts2Go10O
01-11-2012, 01:44 PM
We actually don't know because nothing in the press release specifies what ATS model weighs "around" 3,400lbs. I would put money on that it isn't the 3.6L version most people will buy.

It's also worth noting the BMW 3-Series is about the same size and weighs less over the whole model range with the top 3-Series twin-turbo coming in shy of 3,600lbs.

GM has been having trouble getting weight down on their new platforms. so much so that one got rejected and were apparently redesigning it.

TriShield
01-12-2012, 01:26 PM
GM has been having trouble getting weight down on their new platforms. so much so that one got rejected and were apparently redesigning it.

Bob Lutz said in his book that GM emphasizes a substantial feel in the way their vehicles ride as well as quiet and comfort. That's what he had to say about weight and that a quality feel is imparted by doors that have a good thunk, heavier steering and comfortable experience. Which is correct.

Plus if you're engineering for a certain (meaning affordable) pricepoint you're going to use steel. This contributes to weight and this is why the majority of vehicles today are 3,500-4,000lbs.

Cars may become a little lighter in the coming years due to aluminum, magnesium and other lighter materials but that is also going to make them cost more as well as make insurance and crash repair more expensive.

Wnts2Go10O
01-12-2012, 03:52 PM
Bob Lutz said in his book that GM emphasizes a substantial feel in the way their vehicles ride as well as quiet and comfort. That's what he had to say about weight and that a quality feel is imparted by doors that have a good thunk, heavier steering and comfortable experience. Which is correct.

Plus if you're engineering for a certain (meaning affordable) pricepoint you're going to use steel. This contributes to weight and this is why the majority of vehicles today are 3,500-4,000lbs.

Cars may become a little lighter in the coming years due to aluminum, magnesium and other lighter materials but that is also going to make them cost more as well as make insurance and crash repair more expensive.
i realize that.. however.. creating a safe unibody around 3500 is not anywhere near impossible. the mustang is not small and it doesnt weigh 4000-4100lbs

MI-Z/28
01-12-2012, 06:57 PM
Plus if you're engineering for a certain (meaning affordable) pricepoint you're going to use steel

That depends. I work at a magnesium plant. We can machine and assemble IP's and other castings in house. For steel an engineering change in the part usually means it will be sent to another facility for machining. Sure the upfront cost of mag is more, but once you take steel and start machining, adding holes, assembling and other engineering changes down the road, the initial price difference disappears.

TriShield
01-13-2012, 08:29 PM
i realize that.. however.. creating a safe unibody around 3500 is not anywhere near impossible. the mustang is not small and it doesnt weigh 4000-4100lbs

It's not too far off of it.

DropTopBird
01-14-2012, 01:03 AM
If chevy was looking to make an "affordable exotic", the Miray looks a hell of a lot more the part than the civic/eclipse looking tru140s. That would be an awesome domestic exotic.

mac62989
01-14-2012, 01:30 PM
If chevy was looking to make an "affordable exotic", the Miray looks a hell of a lot more the part than the civic/eclipse looking tru140s. That would be an awesome domestic exotic.

Both are a little too much for me..

godspeed01
01-23-2012, 12:30 AM
need to stay true to the usa look and stay away from ERUO

It'llrun
01-24-2012, 04:07 PM
No, slots in under the CTS in every respect. The next CTS will grow in size to be more directly aimed at the BMW 5-Series and cars of that class.I remember reading something a few days ago, perhaps another ATS article. Anyway, it mentioned the CTS is already bigger than the BMW 5... If that's the case, I hope they don't waste time making it larger still. For goodness sake, they ALREADY offer a Deville!

Regardless the other models, the new ATS is on my list of cars to look into as I might just toss hard-earned money on a new car later this year. I so despise buying new though, I'll probably wait till I find a used but uncrashed version. :D

PS if the next Camaro is based on this chassis, LOOK OUT WORLD, HERE IT COMES! Idonno what they'll use for an engine(or what might actually fit), but if they can manage to slip a supercharged LSA into that chassis... WOW!