View Full Version : Looking to purchase a WS6


WhiteGXP313
01-14-2012, 12:04 PM
Just as the title says im in the market for a WS6 and was wondering if anyone is selling theirs. Im looking for either a white or black one with less then 75000 miles. I would prefer a manual trans (good or bad idea) and would like for it to be stock but a couple tasteful mods wouldn't bother me to much. I drove my brothers friends goldish color one a few years back and fell in love with the looks and power of it. Is there anything I should be looking out for? or any feature i should look for? thanks in advance

jthunderz28
01-14-2012, 01:42 PM
Get the 2001 or 2002 model. Those came with the LS6 intake which adds about 10 more rwhp stock. They are also generally more reliable than prior years.

Go with the Manual Trans for sure.

The 4l60E Auto trans in stock form is not the best in terms of reliability long term.

Tasteful mods would be: an intake lid, quality catback exhaust like GMMG, and MGW shifter, Koni shocks, and subframe connectors to start. Definitely fun cars, but hard to stop modding them when you start.

Good luck in your search as these cars are becoming harder to find. Use Autotrader.com to filter out your search.

Rob
01-15-2012, 04:37 PM
Or you can go LT1 and buy a first year run. I'm thinking of selling mine. 67K miles but has some mods.

MrElectric03
01-15-2012, 06:55 PM
They are out there but yuou will pay for low mileage. Id get the manual unless you get a real good deal on an auto. 01 and 02 are best but intakes are an easy swap.

82cetuner
01-15-2012, 07:09 PM
actually he would be better to buy a 99 because the ls6 intake model T/As had the smaller cam and kept power the same, its easier to swap a intake than it is a cam LOL and cheeper, its really no difference what year you get just stay away from the 98 though

y2k_ta
01-16-2012, 01:52 AM
Well I'll buck the trend and tell you to go with the automatic. They're more common (you had to order the manual trans), and they're also more consistent at the drag strip.

Blk98Vert
01-16-2012, 08:43 AM
Be ready to pay around 12k in either trans, other than that nothing really to look out for other than common sense

WhiteGXP313
01-16-2012, 10:03 AM
Thanks for the input guys I found this white 01 on Craigslist, but it looks to be a fake WS6. It has the hood and badge but has 16" abs wheels. The WS6 package is suspension and appearance right nothing diff with the engine?? Im planning on lowering it and putting some zr1 rims on her regardless if its a WS6 or not because im all about having the right stance. For the price its going for its going to be hard to pass it up unless there is a difference with power.

94 White T/A
01-16-2012, 03:09 PM
Thanks for the input guys I found this white 01 on Craigslist, but it looks to be a fake WS6. It has the hood and badge but has 16" abs wheels. The WS6 package is suspension and appearance right nothing diff with the engine?? Im planning on lowering it and putting some zr1 rims on her regardless if its a WS6 or not because im all about having the right stance. For the price its going for its going to be hard to pass it up unless there is a difference with power.

If the price is right, then go for it!

JD_AMG
01-16-2012, 07:26 PM
Thanks for the input guys I found this white 01 on Craigslist, but it looks to be a fake WS6. It has the hood and badge but has 16" abs wheels. The WS6 package is suspension and appearance right nothing diff with the engine?? Im planning on lowering it and putting some zr1 rims on her regardless if its a WS6 or not because im all about having the right stance. For the price its going for its going to be hard to pass it up unless there is a difference with power.

For LS1 cars the WS6 was honestly nothing special.
You get the hood, a 32mm front swaybar (2mm bigger than base model) 17x9" wheels (up from 16x8") and some small odds and ends hardly worth highlighting unless you get some options like bilstien suspension.

Blk98Vert
01-16-2012, 08:02 PM
You get a bigger lower airbox, that's it for power though

82cetuner
01-17-2012, 02:28 AM
yeah no real difference at all especially if you are ganna mod it.

knowone would even know that my car is a ws-6 unless they looked at the door tag, it dont have any of the items that WS-6 has, I even got rid of the hood, which is for sale now BTW

WhiteGXP313
01-21-2012, 01:05 PM
well i did a carfax and it was to good to be true it was involved in a front end collision......Im still looking around thanks guys for all the info
82cetuner what color is the hood?

lugnutt
01-21-2012, 05:24 PM
You didnt really stipulate your price range. I've been kicking around the idea of selling mine. It is a 1999 with 56000 miles WS6 Six speed with T tops.
I purchased the car for $17500 and installed over $10000 in performance mods. It has been driven under 4000 miles in 5 years.
I have a whole list of goodies that I have completed, and also have almost every original part in a box in the garage. I would let it go if the price is right.
It is garage kept underneath a cover.
It is in the 22k range.
It has a D1SC supercharger with 8 rib pulleys with a ATI balancer. Twin intercoolers and an BBK aluminum intake. It was tuned by Fbody central in Baltimore Md. Made 425 horsepower at the rear wheels with 6lbs of boost. I have seen 9 pounds on my guage so I estimating around 550 at the motor.
It has Dynomax Stainless headers, with high flow cats and a Borla Catback exhaust. I installed a centerforce clutch and performed the clutch mod on on the master cylinder and installed an B&M ripper shifter. All the fluids have been changed to synthetic including the rear end. I have a strut tower brace, a Kenny brown frame connector kit, boxed lower control arms in the rear, and a torque arm installed.
It also has New ZR1 replica wheels from OEM Concepts with NItto 555r 315 drag radials on the rear.
I just installed over 500.00 in Auto meter guages, including Programable tach with shift light, Elite series Boost guage, and fuel pressure guage on the a pillar. New fuel pump in tank, new fuel injectors, and MSD spark plug wires.
See pics here.
http://ls1tech.com/forums/album.php?albumid=8841

MasterTomos
01-21-2012, 05:38 PM
Each years have their strengths and weaknesses.

98-00 have slightly more agressive cam, but have an LS1 intake
01-02 have a slightly milder cam, but an LS6 intake

Also, the 01-02 cars don't have the air pump junk IIRC, which is nice because most people modding these cars do away with it anyway.

Auto vs. manual, you can't really go wrong either way. The Autos tend to be a lot friendlier than the manuals to the rear end (the weak link in the F-body's drivetrain), and autos are definitely more consistent at the track. Automatic cars are generally much cheaper too. That being said, the manuals are more fun to drive and can be slightly faster stock v. stock (not by much however). So that's all really your choice.

Personally, I'd look for a clean formula or TA. If you're putting aftermarket rims on it anyway, you've just taken away about 1/3 of what makes the WS6's "special"
Hood, 17's, and the lid. However, the lid is only very slighly better than a non ws6 car, and aftermarket lids are cheap and better. WS6's are generally thousands upon thousands more. If you're modding, rims and a hood is easy to swap out, and you'd save a lot of cash, depending on the price of the cars you find obviously.

WhiteGXP313
01-22-2012, 12:30 PM
sorry lugnut too many mods and too much coin im only trying to spend $11,000 and would like it stock
thanks guys you helped a lot now im strictly looking for a 01-02 auto V8 i dont care if its a non ws6 although that would be nice but like MasterTomos said I can just get a hood and lid

knight_rider
01-22-2012, 01:55 PM
Just as the title says im in the market for a WS6 and was wondering if anyone is selling theirs. Im looking for either a white or black one with less then 75000 miles. I would prefer a manual trans (good or bad idea) and would like for it to be stock but a couple tasteful mods wouldn't bother me to much. I drove my brothers friends goldish color one a few years back and fell in love with the looks and power of it. Is there anything I should be looking out for? or any feature i should look for? thanks in advance

www.camarokingla.com They have alot of nice looking fbody's for sale, I see you don't live in Cali but I'm sure they can arrange something for you. Good luck on the purchase tho, "nice" TA's are hard to come by these days but they are out there.

MasterTomos
01-22-2012, 02:36 PM
sorry lugnut too many mods and too much coin im only trying to spend $11,000 and would like it stock
thanks guys you helped a lot now im strictly looking for a 01-02 auto V8 i dont care if its a non ws6 although that would be nice but like MasterTomos said I can just get a hood and lid

The only downside is about 3 times a week you'll get the "Nice car! Is it a ws6!?" at a gas station, parking lot, ect. and when you say "no" they reply with some random ignorant comment lol. It gets annoying sometimes, but as long as you don't care what stupid non-car people say, there's really no downside and you get much better bang for the buck. lol.

JohnnyBs98WS6Rag
01-23-2012, 04:31 PM
The only downside is about 3 times a week you'll get the "Nice car! Is it a ws6!?" at a gas station, parking lot, ect. and when you say "no" they reply with some random ignorant comment lol. It gets annoying sometimes, but as long as you don't care what stupid non-car people say, there's really no downside and you get much better bang for the buck. lol.

LOL, similar to the stupid comments from ignorant folks, standing next to the hood while I'm filling w/ gas asking "Hey man, nice car. Does it have Ram Air?" Uh, yeah dude, CAN'T YOU READ??

Z28/2002
01-23-2012, 04:45 PM
Also, the 01-02 cars don't have the air pump junk IIRC, which is nice because most people modding these cars do away with it anyway.

The 01-02 cars still had A.I.R, they DON'T have EGR

MasterTomos
01-23-2012, 09:05 PM
The 01-02 cars still had A.I.R, they DON'T have EGR

Thats what I was thinking :) Thanks for the clarification.

jamin
01-28-2012, 10:55 AM
Good luck, do your homework and you will get a nice one, keep us posted

AlexSmith
01-29-2012, 09:53 PM
Here is the cheapest prices I find. WS6 and FireHawk hoods new for $199 and $239. Not bad. Im thinking about ordering one.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/250973576409?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Fiberglass-98-02-Firebird-Trans-AM-SUPERHAWK-hood-/350527814016?_trksid=p4340.m185&_trkparms=algo%3DSIC.NPJS%26its%3DI%26itu%3DUA%26o tn%3D5%26pmod%3D250973576409%26ps%3D63%26clkid%3D5 964739230860743989

MasterTomos
01-29-2012, 10:06 PM
^careful, you get what you pay for.

MJs1FastSS
02-06-2012, 08:29 AM
Id sell mine black on black, 6 speed and very well maintained prob one of the cleanest around, but not sure if your looking to travel PM me for specs

WhiteGXP313
02-16-2012, 01:26 PM
sorry for the late reply guys but im not looking to spend anymore then $12000. I know that's kinda low but its only going to be my summer car because i live in Michigan and i wouldn't dare abuse these cars by driving them in the snow and salt.

WhiteGXP313
02-16-2012, 01:28 PM
This one is sexy but a little too much $$
http://www.autotrader.com/fyc/vdp.jsp?ct=p&car_id=304481585&dealer_id=66523401&car_year=2001&systime=&doors=&model=FBIRD&search_lang=en&start_year=1999&keywordsfyc=&keywordsrep=&highlightFirstMakeModel=&search_type=both&distance=200&min_price=0&rdm=1329416749270&drive=&marketZipError=false&advanced=y&fuel=&keywords_display=&lastBeginningStartYear=1981&end_year=2013&showZipError=n&make2=&certified=&engine=8+Cylinder&dma=DETROIT_NE&page_location=findacar%3A%3Aispsearchform&body_code=0&isFlashPlugin=false&transmission=&default_sort=priceDESC&max_mileage=&color=&address=48312&sort_type=priceDESC&max_price=15000&make=PONT&seller_type=b&num_records=25&cardist=29&standard=false

jamin
02-16-2012, 01:56 PM
This one is sexy but a little too much $$
http://www.autotrader.com/fyc/vdp.jsp?ct=p&car_id=304481585&dealer_id=66523401&car_year=2001&systime=&doors=&model=FBIRD&search_lang=en&start_year=1999&keywordsfyc=&keywordsrep=&highlightFirstMakeModel=&search_type=both&distance=200&min_price=0&rdm=1329416749270&drive=&marketZipError=false&advanced=y&fuel=&keywords_display=&lastBeginningStartYear=1981&end_year=2013&showZipError=n&make2=&certified=&engine=8+Cylinder&dma=DETROIT_NE&page_location=findacar%3A%3Aispsearchform&body_code=0&isFlashPlugin=false&transmission=&default_sort=priceDESC&max_mileage=&color=&address=48312&sort_type=priceDESC&max_price=15000&make=PONT&seller_type=b&num_records=25&cardist=29&standard=false


for 12 u can have my 96 with 18k:devil:

WhiteGXP313
02-16-2012, 02:02 PM
for 12 u can have my 96 with 18k:devil:

Haha thanks but these guys got me to only want the 01-02s

jamin
02-16-2012, 02:08 PM
thats what happen with me but then I got to the point where 11-13k got me a ls1 with 60-80k or mine with 15k when I bought it so I said hack mines more collectible being a ultra low miles and one of the first WS6 from that era so I got it

WhiteGXP313
02-16-2012, 02:29 PM
im not in it to collect it im in it to drive it and race it :)

4thbboy
02-21-2012, 08:48 PM
I just bought a 99 Ws6. I paid $12k for a stock M6 with 56K miles....then 31 days later had to rebuild the transmission(clutch, flywheel, syncs, slides, bearings, etc). The T/A also came with orange, yellow and gold flake tribal scrolling above the door handles, side markers, and between the nostrels of the hood. Thats like handle bar tastles on a Harley! Parts, labor, and shine.....$2K. Soooooo I got a 99 Ws6 for $14K lol! Pisses me off, but then I hit the gas and everything is nice again.

1 of 44
02-21-2012, 09:43 PM
do not buy a hood from that ebay seller...hoods are junk and see through if you put up a light to it....and unless you really want to piss off your bodyman/painter...and be dissapointed with the fit, i wouldnt buy from there. TRUST ME...been there done that.

james8008
02-24-2012, 12:45 AM
LOL, similar to the stupid comments from ignorant folks, standing next to the hood while I'm filling w/ gas asking "Hey man, nice car. Does it have Ram Air?" Uh, yeah dude, CAN'T YOU READ??

I always have people coming up to me asking "What is a firehawk??" Did you put those stickers on the car?? Anyways, to the OP good luck finding your perfect car! It took me 5 years to find mine! (I looked almost every day for a low mileage stock sunset orange metallic firehawk 6 speed...) Well worth the wait though!