Gen 5 Camaro External Bolt-On Tech - 2012 Camaro SS

Just bought a 2012 1SS/RS, with a manual 6 speed, im very new to the car, but im looking to put a nice catback on it, and a cold air, what sounds good out there? ive always been a fan of the Borla and Corsa, does anyone have any sounds clips on theres? and how easy or difficult is it to change the catback and or cold air on these cars? im used to my 4th gen ls1 lol

What things should i know about the car?

What things should i know about the car?

The best performing CAI is the Cold air inductions CAI with the adm scoop. Independent tests have proven this.

Cat back install is a breeze. I love the sound of my flowmaster with an orx and headers. It wasnt available when I got my exhaust...but if I had to do it over again I would go with the new dynomax system. They offer a system with bullet mufflers. It will offer the lightest weight, most flow and very cheap. Of course a cat back alone offers very little performance on these cars. Maybe 5hp

Whats to know...hmm I guess a lot. What do u want to know specifically besides the cai and cat back info?

I had a vararam, no gain and even a slight loss in the 1/4, maybe a 10th. Took it off and sold it. Went with some used dynatechs, had them coated and no cats. I have a roto-fab intake and JRE tune for after hibernation. LT's are the way to go with stock CB, great sound, no drone, excellent power gain and screams at WOT.
http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/ll13/glennster50/2011-11-09_14-19-19_466.jpg

I had a vararam, no gain and even a slight loss in the 1/4, maybe a 10th. Took it off and sold it. Went with some used dynatechs, had them coated and no cats. I have a roto-fab intake and JRE tune for after hibernation. LT's are the way to go with stock CB, great sound, no drone, excellent power gain and screams at WOT.
http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/ll13/glennster50/2011-11-09_14-19-19_466.jpg

It does sound pretty decent with stockers and headers and from what I have heard.

Big thing is you can lose a considerable amount of weight by ditching the stock mufflers. They are gigantic. I also dont like how you can see them under the car.
Cat back for the most part is personal preference in sound. I have always liked the sound of bullets...and they just so happen to be the cheapest and lightest.

If you want fun factor and looks this is first
http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/ll13/glennster50/20120108_175032.jpg

If you want fun factor and looks this is first

Sorry for getting off topic, but it would be cool if they offered that shifter as a factory option with houndstooth seats.

Sorry for getting off topic, but it would be cool if they offered that shifter as a factory option with houndstooth seats.

I have a friend with a white SS that bought a hounds tooth upholstery kit and it looks awesome!

The best performing CAI is the Cold air inductions CAI with the adm scoop. Independent tests have proven this.

Cat back install is a breeze. I love the sound of my flowmaster with an orx and headers. It wasnt available when I got my exhaust...but if I had to do it over again I would go with the new dynomax system. They offer a system with bullet mufflers. It will offer the lightest weight, most flow and very cheap. Of course a cat back alone offers very little performance on these cars. Maybe 5hp

Whats to know...hmm I guess a lot. What do u want to know specifically besides the cai and cat back info?

Ok cool, wow only 5hp gain? thats crazy for all the money u can spend on them, just looking to make the car alittle faster and sound better, maybe a lower thermostat would help? im used to the 4th gen cars, just looking for weak links and or problems down the road

I had a vararam, no gain and even a slight loss in the 1/4, maybe a 10th. Took it off and sold it. Went with some used dynatechs, had them coated and no cats. I have a roto-fab intake and JRE tune for after hibernation. LT's are the way to go with stock CB, great sound, no drone, excellent power gain and screams at WOT.
http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/ll13/glennster50/2011-11-09_14-19-19_466.jpg

I cant believe the Vararam made it worse, so i guess the cold air kits are a waste of money too?

I don't think the CAI kits are as much gain as advertised. When I added the vararam I could tell the throttle response was improved, when I went back to stock I felt no loss. Did the computer "unlearn" or was it confused over the difference in air flow? I almost went with an SLP tube and filter [blackwing] but got a roto-fab for dirt cheap because tuners seem to like them and the ones I've seen in person I like over the others. Not fond of the glass windowed CAI brand.

I don't think the CAI kits are as much gain as advertised. When I added the vararam I could tell the throttle response was improved, when I went back to stock I felt no loss. Did the computer "unlearn" or was it confused over the difference in air flow? I almost went with an SLP tube and filter [blackwing] but got a roto-fab for dirt cheap because tuners seem to like them and the ones I've seen in person I like over the others. Not fond of the glass windowed CAI brand.

I see wut u mean, so it is possible u need a tune to go with the CAI? is it easy to change out the stocker to a cold air? Do lower thermostats help these cars?

I'm going with a jannetty "415" tune which is matched to LT's and a roto-fab intake. I don't believe in cooler thermo's myself.

I'm going with a jannetty "415" tune which is matched to LT's and a roto-fab intake. I don't believe in cooler thermo's myself.

I thought most LS1 motors benefit from a cooler running temp, at least my 4th gen did

I cant believe the Vararam made it worse, so i guess the cold air kits are a waste of money too?

No, just the Vara-ram. I was able to go 12.60's with just a Roto-Fab and a tune.

No, just the Vara-ram. I was able to go 12.60's with just a Roto-Fab and a tune.

So the Roto-Fab ones are good, any other kinds out there? or just that one"?

Make sure you do the fuse pull

Midnight,you have so many more choices then when the '10's came out. For catback's it comes down to what sound you like and saving a little weight. They also look better than the stock "jerry cans". You won't need a tune with just cold air intake and catbacks. CAI Inc. cold air intake is the most popular and best performer according to tests by a well known speed shop on C5. Pair it with the ADM race scoop for really good results. Cold air kits are easy to install on 5th Gens, maybe a half hour with household tools. Thermostats are a waste of money in my opinion,if you do get a tune later you can get the fans set to come on at a lower temp. Long tube headers and a tune are going to give you the most gain on the LS3 and a great sound regardless of the catback you have. A tune will void your warranty though with most dealers. A short throw shifter is a great mod also, much better feel than stock. Once you start modding, it is hard to stop. Check out C5 forum if you have not allready.

Make sure you do the fuse pull

What is the fuse pull mod and what are the benefits?

What is the fuse pull mod and what are the benefits?

Most commonly needed in the L99...though a few ls3 cars have needed it.

Some cars stay in low octane mode from when some dealerships fill them with 87.

Several (mostly l99) owners reported less than normal performance with their new cars. Several guys with L99's couldnt break into the 13's and didnt know why. Therefore pulling the fuses will usually reset the computer and get the car out of low octane mode. Something like 30-40hp difference.

Make sure you do the fuse pull

Midnight,you have so many more choices then when the '10's came out. For catback's it comes down to what sound you like and saving a little weight. They also look better than the stock "jerry cans". You won't need a tune with just cold air intake and catbacks. CAI Inc. cold air intake is the most popular and best performer according to tests by a well known speed shop on C5. Pair it with the ADM race scoop for really good results. Cold air kits are easy to install on 5th Gens, maybe a half hour with household tools. Thermostats are a waste of money in my opinion,if you do get a tune later you can get the fans set to come on at a lower temp. Long tube headers and a tune are going to give you the most gain on the LS3 and a great sound regardless of the catback you have. A tune will void your warranty though with most dealers. A short throw shifter is a great mod also, much better feel than stock. Once you start modding, it is hard to stop. Check out C5 forum if you have not allready.

I like the Corsa the most i think, so wut is an ADM race scoop? is it like a ram air setup? i know i wish i would have ordered the hurst shifter from the factory, just looking to do the cold air and the catback for now that should keep me happy for awhile lol

I like the Corsa the most i think, so wut is an ADM race scoop? is it like a ram air setup? i know i wish i would have ordered the hurst shifter from the factory, just looking to do the cold air and the catback for now that should keep me happy for awhile lol

The scoop is dyno proven to add another 4-5 hp when used with a cold air intake. In my opinion it is a no brainer to go with the cold air inductions CAI in combination with this. It has proven to be the most effective.

The scoop goes in place where the stock washer reservoir is located. You need to buy the Roto-fab washer bottle relocation kit. It is a very nice kit that relocates the washer bottle to be up in behind the CAI under the hood instead of below in the fender (where the scoop goes). It fits nicely and looks factory. Install is very easy and should be no problem for even the least experienced person.

They are selling a package deal that comes with a cold air inductions CAI, the ADM scoop and also the washer bottle relocation kit.

http://juicedmotorsports.com/2010camaropowerpackage9.html

This set up is proven to be good for about 15-20rwhp. I personally didnt notice any SOTP difference until I installed headers and a tune but it is proven effective for the most part.

This is the best way to go in my opinion.

If I were you I would get some headers as well as a tune if you can afford it. The difference after headers and a tune was incredible. I would hold off on the cat back and do headers instead if money is an issue. The corsa cat-backs are pricey and will cost you as much as headers with little performance gain. The headers will give you a better exhaust note as well...but a ~35hp gain instead of 5.

The scoop is dyno proven to add another 4-5 hp when used with a cold air intake. In my opinion it is a no brainer to go with the cold air inductions CAI in combination with this. It has proven to be the most effective.

The scoop goes in place where the stock washer reservoir is located. You need to buy the Roto-fab washer bottle relocation kit. It is a very nice kit that relocates the washer bottle to be up in behind the CAI under the hood instead of below in the fender (where the scoop goes). It fits nicely and looks factory. Install is very easy and should be no problem for even the least experienced person.

They are selling a package deal that comes with a cold air inductions CAI, the ADM scoop and also the washer bottle relocation kit.

http://juicedmotorsports.com/2010camaropowerpackage9.html

This set up is proven to be good for about 15-20rwhp. I personally didnt notice any SOTP difference until I installed headers and a tune but it is proven effective for the most part.

This is the best way to go in my opinion.

If I were you I would get some headers as well as a tune if you can afford it. The difference after headers and a tune was incredible. I would hold off on the cat back and do headers instead if money is an issue. The corsa cat-backs are pricey and will cost you as much as headers with little performance gain. The headers will give you a better exhaust note as well...but a ~35hp gain instead of 5.


Thats not a bad gain, the link u sent has no pic though, i can always just get the cold air first and go from there i guess, ive seen gains of 15-20rwhp with some of the catbacks on here? its gotta be better than those huge stock truck mufflers lol and they are way too quiet too lol

Thats not a bad gain, the link u sent has no pic though, i can always just get the cold air first and go from there i guess, ive seen gains of 15-20rwhp with some of the catbacks on here? its gotta be better than those huge stock truck mufflers lol and they are way too quiet too lol

With headers the stock cans dont sound too bad. I would definitely ditch them...but not if I had to choose between getting a cat back or headers.

Do some looking around on camaro5....cat backs offer little to no gain. It is a sound only upgrade for the most part. The car already comes with duals and an h-pipe.

Tests were done with several different mufflers down to no muffler at all. The difference was never greater than 5hp. Easily a dyno variance.

What are your plans for the car? No matter which road you go...unless you plan on staying mostly stock and keeping the warranty...headers will have to be done eventually.

With headers the stock cans dont sound too bad. I would definitely ditch them...but not if I had to choose between getting a cat back or headers.

Do some looking around on camaro5....cat backs offer little to no gain. It is a sound only upgrade for the most part. The car already comes with duals and an h-pipe.

Tests were done with several different mufflers down to no muffler at all. The difference was never greater than 5hp. Easily a dyno variance.

What are your plans for the car? No matter which road you go...unless you plan on staying mostly stock and keeping the warranty...headers will have to be done eventually.

I see wut u mean, well i def wanna change the sound for now at least, and do full exhaust eventually, i dont wanna go crazy, my goals are a good CAI and exhaust with a tune

UltraZ is right, catbacks are not going to pick up significant power, but will sound much better then stock. Start hanging out with other 5th gen owners and listen to thier cars to find the sound you like. Long tubes and a tune will pick up over 40 rwhp. That you will feel, and long tubes sound great at WOT.

UltraZ is right, catbacks are not going to pick up significant power, but will sound much better then stock. Start hanging out with other 5th gen owners and listen to thier cars to find the sound you like. Long tubes and a tune will pick up over 40 rwhp. That you will feel, and long tubes sound great at WOT.

Yea thats tru, yea the longtubes sound mean as hell, how is the install on the LTs? easier than the 4th gens? or worse?

Yea thats tru, yea the longtubes sound mean as hell, how is the install on the LTs? easier than the 4th gens? or worse?

1.5 hours on a lift with drink breaks. too easy.

1.5 hours on a lift with drink breaks. too easy.

Doesnt sound too bad then lol

Is there any diffrence between the 10s 11s and 12s? or are the cars all the same?

Is there any diffrence between the 10s 11s and 12s? or are the cars all the same?

Header install is pretty easy on these cars, you will need jack stands or ramps and a helper can make it easier. You may have to disconnect the steering shaft, the rest is pretty easy. As for differences in the drivetrain or engine in the '10-'12's, I have not heard of any.

The 12s have the updated FE4 suspension.

The 12s have the updated FE4 suspension.

What are the differences between this and a non FE4 equipped SS?

Anyone heard of the Cherry Bomb catback system. I was thinking of getting that. I picked up a K&N kit and I was able to spin them on 1st,2nd and 3rd gear. Glad to hear the headers are a breeze to install.

Header install is pretty easy on these cars, you will need jack stands or ramps and a helper can make it easier. You may have to disconnect the steering shaft, the rest is pretty easy. As for differences in the drivetrain or engine in the '10-'12's, I have not heard of any.

The 12s have the updated FE4 suspension.

What are the differences between this and a non FE4 equipped SS?

thats good to hear, not sure how the steering shaft would go that sounds scary lol, yea im curious about the suspension?

Anyone heard of the Cherry Bomb catback system. I was thinking of getting that. I picked up a K&N kit and I was able to spin them on 1st,2nd and 3rd gear. Glad to hear the headers are a breeze to install.

so u noticed a difference with the k&n? how was the install? and how much?

work in a shop ran stanless works long tube headers knn cold air tr6 plugs from ngk mild cam and taylor wires with a tune ran us up 70 hp on a mainline dyno pretty good idle sound real good sound when you open her upp

thats good to hear, not sure how the steering shaft would go that sounds scary lol, yea im curious about the suspension?

As far as removing the shaft goes, I was under the impression it had more to do with the particular brand. I know I had zero issues with my Kooks. I did the install by myself on jack stands in around 2 hrs. and like glennster mentioned before it was a very easy install. Even if you would need to move the steering shaft, it's not a hard process. The engine bay on these cars gives plenty of room to work.

The dynatechs slid right in. My 2000 was easy but these cars are so much easier to work on. I installed the shifter in about a half hour on a lift. The bad is probably losing a powertrain warranty after headers/CAI and tune but you pay to play and modding these cars makes them uber fun.

As far as removing the shaft goes, I was under the impression it had more to do with the particular brand. I know I had zero issues with my Kooks. I did the install by myself on jack stands in around 2 hrs. and like glennster mentioned before it was a very easy install. Even if you would need to move the steering shaft, it's not a hard process. The engine bay on these cars gives plenty of room to work.

The dynatechs slid right in. My 2000 was easy but these cars are so much easier to work on. I installed the shifter in about a half hour on a lift. The bad is probably losing a powertrain warranty after headers/CAI and tune but you pay to play and modding these cars makes them uber fun.

Thats good to know there easier than the 4th gens, cause they were hard to work on lol,

glennster, wut kind of shifter did u install?

FE4 suspension enhances performance

The new FE4 suspension debuts as a performance improvement for the Camaro SS coupe in 2012, focusing on more refined handling.

“Our objective was to create a more precise sport suspension for the SS coupe, with greater road-holding capability,” said Al Oppenheiser, Camaro chief engineer. ”We applied lessons learned from extensive track testing to better refine the suspension geometry for flatter cornering, a more neutral balance during hard turns, and minimized understeer at the limit.”

Elements of the FE4 package include:

Retuned front and rear dampers
New solid front (23 mm) and rear (24 mm) stabilizer bars
Twenty-inch aluminum wheels and P245/45R20 front/P275/40R20 rear tires (SS).
More than just new components, the new FE4 performance suspension incorporates learning from the ongoing development of the high-performance Camaro ZL1. In particular, the suspension geometry has been adjusted, including reshaped stabilizer bars that are repositioned outboard of the shock mounts. This results in more effective body control and more precise response in performance driving.

FE4 suspension enhances performance

The new FE4 suspension debuts as a performance improvement for the Camaro SS coupe in 2012, focusing on more refined handling.

“Our objective was to create a more precise sport suspension for the SS coupe, with greater road-holding capability,” said Al Oppenheiser, Camaro chief engineer. ”We applied lessons learned from extensive track testing to better refine the suspension geometry for flatter cornering, a more neutral balance during hard turns, and minimized understeer at the limit.”

Elements of the FE4 package include:

Retuned front and rear dampers
New solid front (23 mm) and rear (24 mm) stabilizer bars
Twenty-inch aluminum wheels and P245/45R20 front/P275/40R20 rear tires (SS).
More than just new components, the new FE4 performance suspension incorporates learning from the ongoing development of the high-performance Camaro ZL1. In particular, the suspension geometry has been adjusted, including reshaped stabilizer bars that are repositioned outboard of the shock mounts. This results in more effective body control and more precise response in performance driving.


wow thats awesome thanks alot bud!! that says it all, cant wait to drive mine now

Don't waste your money on a Cat back system. You wont get any gains and you might get some drone. ARH or KooKs LT headers with cats will bolt up to your stock exhaust and will give you about 30rwhp more and a better sound than the cat back.

There are 3 main air intake systems that will give you 14+rwhp. Cold Air Inductions, ADM and Halltech. Only Halltech will give you rwhp without heating up the intake air. CAI and ADM have aluminum tubes that get hot and the coatings don't do shit to stop it. Halltech has a plastic tube that doesn't let heat soak increase intake air temps and an inverted tip air filter that lets in more air. The washer bottle re locator will give you more rwhp because it frees up the air intake area. The scoop is cheap and easy to install so why not put it in. With both your looking at 18rwhp more.

The fuse pull will effect the LS3 and L99 the same. Pull fuse #5 and #20 for a few hours and you will see a difference. Have it Dyno'ed with the lower octane map over written by the higher octane map and you wont have to pull the fuses. The knock sensor will retard your timing if you have bad gas.

Vmax throttle body if you have an LS3, if you have an L99 you might not like the Vmax.

A better cup holder for sure, and for the love of god get rid of the stock rims.

You dont like the stock rims? I love the stockers, I just wish the rear was a 10.5 for a 315 tire! Catback is a wast I agree, I used my stock catback and removed the reso's and welded up some 1 chamers. $350 for XS power 2" headers and about 125$ for my home built exhaust, and it sounds better then any bolton 5th gen I heard in person with 2 grand in exhaust!

Don't waste your money on a Cat back system. You wont get any gains and you might get some drone. ARH or KooKs LT headers with cats will bolt up to your stock exhaust and will give you about 30rwhp more and a better sound than the cat back.

There are 3 main air intake systems that will give you 14+rwhp. Cold Air Inductions, ADM and Halltech. Only Halltech will give you rwhp without heating up the intake air. CAI and ADM have aluminum tubes that get hot and the coatings don't do shit to stop it. Halltech has a plastic tube that doesn't let heat soak increase intake air temps and an inverted tip air filter that lets in more air. The washer bottle re locator will give you more rwhp because it frees up the air intake area. The scoop is cheap and easy to install so why not put it in. With both your looking at 18rwhp more.

The fuse pull will effect the LS3 and L99 the same. Pull fuse #5 and #20 for a few hours and you will see a difference. Have it Dyno'ed with the lower octane map over written by the higher octane map and you wont have to pull the fuses. The knock sensor will retard your timing if you have bad gas.

Vmax throttle body if you have an LS3, if you have an L99 you might not like the Vmax.

A better cup holder for sure, and for the love of god get rid of the stock rims.

According to the jannetty independent cai test the cold air inductions CAI did a very good job at keeping IAT temps down.

https://spreadsheets.google.com/pub?key=tQetE2V6iXkPIRG35oX6CFQ&single=true&gid=1&output=html

Only a 2 degree temp climb. 2 degrees cooler than the plastic stock unit. Coolest in the entire test besides the over the radiator new era set up (not really the same thing).

Who told you it didnt do a good job...halltech? That is the main thing this cai is known for...low iats.

And about the inverted tip air filter....the CAI unit has a velocity stack as well.And the largest air filter.

According to the jannetty independent cai test the cold air inductions CAI did a very good job at keeping IAT temps down.

https://spreadsheets.google.com/pub?key=tQetE2V6iXkPIRG35oX6CFQ&single=true&gid=1&output=html

Only a 2 degree temp climb. 2 degrees cooler than the plastic stock unit. Coolest in the entire test besides the over the radiator new era set up (not really the same thing).

Who told you it didnt do a good job...halltech? That is the main thing this cai is known for...low iats.

And about the inverted tip air filter....the CAI unit has a velocity stack as well.And the largest air filter.

No not Halltech, I have a CAI intake. Its from my personal experience. That aluminum tube is a flame thrower. I insulated it with pipe insulation and the temps are good now.

I have pictures that I can post when I get to work that show the inside temp of the tube after the car is ran for an hour, 153 as I remembered. The test did not run the car for more than 15 minutes.

The CAI air filter sucks as well. I bought an AFE inverted tip filter to replace the CAI filter.

Don't get me wrong I got 18 rwhp with the CAI after I insulated the tube and put the AFE filter on. I also think the box with a lid is better on the CAI than the Halltech. Test are nice but real world experience is better.

You dont like the stock rims? I love the stockers, I just wish the rear was a 10.5 for a 315 tire! Catback is a wast I agree, I used my stock catback and removed the reso's and welded up some 1 chamers. $350 for XS power 2" headers and about 125$ for my home built exhaust, and it sounds better then any bolton 5th gen I heard in person with 2 grand in exhaust!

Depending on your offset you can put 315's on.

Don't knock those XS headers, they are made out of 321 Stainless and its a better grade than the 304 Kooks or ARH use. ARH and Kooks have a better design for HP. XS Power is the best bang for the buck header out there.

No not Halltech, I have a CAI intake. Its from my personal experience. That aluminum tube is a flame thrower. I insulated it with pipe insulation and the temps are good now.

I have pictures that I can post when I get to work that show the inside temp of the tube after the car is ran for an hour, 153 as I remembered. The test did not run the car for more than 15 minutes.

The CAI air filter sucks as well. I bought an AFE inverted tip filter to replace the CAI filter.

Don't get me wrong I got 18 rwhp with the CAI after I insulated the tube and put the AFE filter on. I also think the box with a lid is better on the CAI than the Halltech. Test are nice but real world experience is better.

Ok man.

Don't waste your money on a Cat back system. You wont get any gains and you might get some drone. ARH or KooKs LT headers with cats will bolt up to your stock exhaust and will give you about 30rwhp more and a better sound than the cat back.

There are 3 main air intake systems that will give you 14+rwhp. Cold Air Inductions, ADM and Halltech. Only Halltech will give you rwhp without heating up the intake air. CAI and ADM have aluminum tubes that get hot and the coatings don't do shit to stop it. Halltech has a plastic tube that doesn't let heat soak increase intake air temps and an inverted tip air filter that lets in more air. The washer bottle re locator will give you more rwhp because it frees up the air intake area. The scoop is cheap and easy to install so why not put it in. With both your looking at 18rwhp more.

The fuse pull will effect the LS3 and L99 the same. Pull fuse #5 and #20 for a few hours and you will see a difference. Have it Dyno'ed with the lower octane map over written by the higher octane map and you wont have to pull the fuses. The knock sensor will retard your timing if you have bad gas.

Vmax throttle body if you have an LS3, if you have an L99 you might not like the Vmax.

A better cup holder for sure, and for the love of god get rid of the stock rims.


wow thats a nice gain to the wheels for the CAI, can u send me some links on the washer relocater and the scoop?

wow thats a nice gain to the wheels for the CAI, can u send me some links on the washer relocater and the scoop?

I hate to say this because I hate Brandon from Maryland Speed but they have the best price on the Halltech system and the ADM scoop. His price on the Roto Fab washer re-locator is a little high, tell him he needs to match Jannettys price of $109.

Brandon's a dick but that's no reason why you shouldn't get the best deal. They ship fast so apparently someone knows what they are doing there.

You will get the same rwhp numbers with the CAI and the ADM but you will have heat soak because of the Aluminum tube and don't let Brandon convince you otherwise. There is the link

http://marylandspeed.com/chevy-camaro-2010-air-intake-induction-c-1240_1243.html#Cold Air Intake Systems (V8)

That's 18rwhp total for intake and scoop, that post I made could be misunderstood

I hate to say this because I hate Brandon from Maryland Speed but they have the best price on the Halltech system and the ADM scoop. His price on the Roto Fab washer re-locator is a little high, tell him he needs to match Jannettys price of $109.

Brandon's a dick but that's no reason why you shouldn't get the best deal. They ship fast so apparently someone knows what they are doing there.

You will get the same rwhp numbers with the CAI and the ADM but you will have heat soak because of the Aluminum tube and don't let Brandon convince you otherwise. There is the link

http://marylandspeed.com/chevy-camaro-2010-air-intake-induction-c-1240_1243.html#Cold Air Intake Systems (V8)

That's 18rwhp total for intake and scoop, that post I made could be misunderstood

What's the reason for not liking Brandon?

What's the reason for not liking Brandon?

Its personal, has nothing to do with business. We just don't like each other.

The K&N kit I picked on Craigslist for $125. It was already assembled so I just removed mine and installed this one. Are CB systems really a waste of time on these cars? It's so quiet thou. I'm waiting til I'm at least @60,000 miles before I install a set of LTs. I was wanting to give her a little rumble with the exhaust system. Is the resonator delete the best option here?

A performance tune is the best bang for the buck. It really woke up my G8 along with a cold air intake.

The K&N kit I picked on Craigslist for $125. It was already assembled so I just removed mine and installed this one. Are CB systems really a waste of time on these cars? It's so quiet thou. I'm waiting til I'm at least @60,000 miles before I install a set of LTs. I was wanting to give her a little rumble with the exhaust system. Is the resonator delete the best option here?

I bought a Borla S cat back exhaust first and if I had to do it all over again, I would have just bought the ARH headers.

You don't have to buy a set of $1,400 headers. XS Power has a great set of stainless headers for a low price. You don't need stainless headers either. Edelbrock has a close out on mild steel coated headers for $309, here's the link. It wont hurt anything by putting on headers now. Mine had 3,000 miles on it when I installed headers.

When you stay with the stock exhaust you avoid the chance of drone. You will get more gains with a after market cat back exhaust if you have headers too, but not by themselves.


http://store.edelbrock.com/competitionraceheaders.aspx

I hate to say this because I hate Brandon from Maryland Speed but they have the best price on the Halltech system and the ADM scoop. His price on the Roto Fab washer re-locator is a little high, tell him he needs to match Jannettys price of $109.

Brandon's a dick but that's no reason why you shouldn't get the best deal. They ship fast so apparently someone knows what they are doing there.

You will get the same rwhp numbers with the CAI and the ADM but you will have heat soak because of the Aluminum tube and don't let Brandon convince you otherwise. There is the link

http://marylandspeed.com/chevy-camaro-2010-air-intake-induction-c-1240_1243.html#Cold Air Intake Systems (V8)

That's 18rwhp total for intake and scoop, that post I made could be misunderstood


ok cool thats all i should need, thank u, im guessing that scoop thing is that black think that is sitting in the air filter?

Keep the reso's on and remove the muffs, it's sounds pretty good! A shop can do it for pretty cheap, it's worth getting rid of those stupid stockers!

But Ive read that removing the muffers in these cars causes you to loose power down low in the RMPs. So changing them out had the benefits of being light weight and sounding better too.

Keep the reso's on and remove the muffs, it's sounds pretty good! A shop can do it for pretty cheap, it's worth getting rid of those stupid stockers!

But Ive read that removing the muffers in these cars causes you to loose power down low in the RMPs. So changing them out had the benefits of being light weight and sounding better too.

Yea i agree a new catback will def lighten the car up alot compared to those huge stock mufflers

anybody have pics of there halltech intake already installed on there car?

I just put in a Jannetty SCT tune and rotofab to compliment my LT's last week and there is no words to how my car runs now. Badass.

how much rwhp can u get with just a halltech CAI without the scoop?

A cai will add about 10-15 hp to the motor.

A cai will add about 10-15 hp to the motor.

ok cool and the scoop maybe another 5?

Yeah probably 5 hp would be all you would see.

Good info in this thread..

I found this thread amusing.

1. Get rid of the stock catback not for HP gain, but for either a sound you like or because the thing weighs a ton. There is close to 40-50 pound weight saving converting to most aftermarket catbacks.
2. The CAI debate amuses me. I've ran multiple configurations on a variety of vehicles and they all do about the same. If you have plans to do more with your car, talk to your performance shop and ask them which they prefer to tune.
3. Determine your next step in modifications when making a header and cat decision. A lot of the FI guys are blowing out the cats on their cars. Choose a brand based on quality and what you can afford. Personally, I prefer built in the USA and especially locally which is why I chose Kooks. I even picked mine up at their facility.

Maryland Speed may be a personal issue with the one person on here. However, I received nothing but great service and pricing from them. I would purchase from them again in a minute.

Maryland Speed may be a personal issue with the one person on here. However, I received nothing but great service and pricing from them. I would purchase from them again in a minute.

+1 :nod:

Im still dead set on the Corsa Cat back and it may be expensive and prove no gain, but damn it sounds amazing to me!!!

For a little more $$$ you can get Kooks headers/mid pipes with cats/axleback mufflers. You will love the sound AND the power increase. I'm going to do the same thing to my G8 and connect the headers/mid pipes to my Borla axlebacks when I get the $$$. The Camaro uses the same setup and this is how it sounds on the G8.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OVsbU93OOx4

Not a fan of corsa, never have been! Have you heard it person, some people love it I think it sounds kinda strange for a muscle car.

For a little more $$$ you can get Kooks headers/mid pipes with cats/axleback mufflers. You will love the sound AND the power increase. I'm going to do the same thing to my G8 and connect the headers/mid pipes to my Borla axlebacks when I get the $$$. The Camaro uses the same setup and this is how it sounds on the G8.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OVsbU93OOx4

Not a fan of corsa, never have been! Have you heard it person, some people love it I think it sounds kinda strange for a muscle car.

kooks sounds pretty mean too!, i know they make good stuff'


Never heard it in person on a new Camaro but i have had it on my 2 ls1 cars and it sounded amazing to me