View Full Version : Who's Ran 12's Stock Or With DR Tires Only


DoggyB22
01-18-2012, 12:45 AM
Has anyone with a stock LS1 Trans Am or Camaro with DR tires only or with stock tires made it in the 12's?

I've seen this Camaro which ran 12.69 @ 110 mph with M/T tires only...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_iOpOtxufko&feature=related

Duffster
01-18-2012, 02:35 AM
12.18 on et streets...

TransAmWS.6
01-18-2012, 07:14 PM
Evan Smith ran a 12.8 or 12.9 with a stone stock '98 M6 Z28, that was actually in a GMHTP article a while ago I believe.

NIUhuskies
01-18-2012, 07:57 PM
So is it just good driving basically?

TransAmWS.6
01-18-2012, 08:23 PM
I'd say that you need to be a pretty killer driver to get 12's out of these cars. Average times that you see from stock ones are usually low to mid 13's.

projectX
01-18-2012, 08:58 PM
+1 ^^ Besides some people say "stock" but it's not - good ole internet/

blackfbird98
01-18-2012, 09:10 PM
i ran 12.79 at 109.15 in my z with riken raptor streets. da was -217 that day. so with good weather and some sticky tires its very doable.

John Deere racer
01-18-2012, 09:17 PM
Close
I went 13.02@107 stock m6 2002z28 stock rsa tires

DoggyB22
01-18-2012, 11:19 PM
Evan Smith ran a 12.8 or 12.9 with a stone stock '98 M6 Z28, that was actually in a GMHTP article a while ago I believe.

i ran 12.79 at 109.15 in my z with riken raptor streets. da was -217 that day. so with good weather and some sticky tires its very doable.

Vids????

LS1LT1
01-19-2012, 01:58 AM
Evan Smith ran a 12.8 or 12.9 with a stone stock '98 M6 Z28, that was actually in a GMHTP article a while ago I believe.Yes, he did both actually.
He ran a 12.8 in a '98 or '99 manual Z28 back in 1999 and years later ran a 12.9 in a fully loaded 2001 or 2002 manual SS, on a hot summer day and with almost a full tank of gas no less. :eek: :thumb:
Others have gone 12.9s and even a couple 12.8s bone stock as well.
I never ran my Z28 in pure stock trim but did go 12.8s on stock tires with only a lid/K&N, thermostat and Hypertech programmer (which probably hurt more than helped LOL). :nod:

And when I refer to cars being bone stock I do mean pure showroom bone stock, stock air box, stock tires and all.
Going by the strictest definition, a lid and/or drag radials is not 'stock'. :burn:

blackfbird98
01-19-2012, 10:56 AM
Vids????

i have a vid of it but the end was cut off, i have the timeslip

moge11
01-19-2012, 01:54 PM
i have a vid of it but the end was cut off, i have the timeslip

What was your 1/8 time and mph?? I ran 8.37.. I think its 12.8x-12.92ish with only a Lid and free mods at 1422da....

DoggyB22
01-19-2012, 06:14 PM
Found this...
http://oi40.tinypic.com/2ag5cgy.jpg

blackfbird98
01-20-2012, 11:18 AM
What was your 1/8 time and mph?? I ran 8.37.. I think its 12.8x-12.92ish with only a Lid and free mods at 1422da....



8.275 at 87.62mph, my entire timeslip is in my about me.

LS1LT1
01-21-2012, 04:22 AM
Found this...
http://oi40.tinypic.com/2ag5cgy.jpgDamn, I have a pretty good memory. :D ;)
Yes, he did both actually.
He ran a 12.8 in a '98 or '99 manual Z28 back in 1999 and years later ran a 12.9 in a fully loaded 2001 or 2002 manual SS, on a hot summer day and with almost a full tank of gas no less. :eek: :thumb:

DoggyB22
01-21-2012, 05:04 AM
Lol yea that's what I said to myself when I found the article....

LS1rob00
01-22-2012, 03:08 AM
That article makes me smile lol

Texnmissouri69
01-25-2012, 07:59 PM
12.35 consecutive runs. 1/4 tank of gas, no spare or jack, full race weight other than that with slicks. Moser 9" and ported throttle body is about it. No motor mods at all.

DoggyB22
01-26-2012, 12:58 AM
http://www.gmhightechperformance.com/features/0211gmhtp_2001_chevrolet_camaro_ss_feature/index.html

LS1LT1
01-26-2012, 01:18 AM
12.35 consecutive runs. 1/4 tank of gas, no spare or jack, full race weight other than that with slicks. Moser 9" and ported throttle body is about it. No motor mods at all.Very nice. :cool:
What gears were in the 9" at the time?

z28241
02-11-2012, 12:40 AM
i ran 12.79 at 109.15 in my z with riken raptor streets. da was -217 that day. so with good weather and some sticky tires its very doable.

^^ U left out it was done with a LS1 intake!..factory freak!

moge11
02-19-2012, 07:15 PM
I wish i could raced in yesterday's weather here.. car was runnin like a MOTHERFUCKER!!! bet it woulda been in the "teens" or even 8.0hs at about 86.5-87.2ish..

98_1LE
02-20-2012, 05:06 AM
I posted this in another thread similar to this.

My base model/flat hood '01 T/A (still own it but it is far from stock now) ran 12.97@108.4 in early 2002 with just OEM 17" Firehawk wheels and 275/40/17 Nitto 555R-II road race tires (not even drag radials and they were up front too).

Here is the original thread about it: http://ls1tech.com/forums/drag-racing-tech/17863-12-97-108-4-stock-t-nittos.html

http://i26.tinypic.com/mjxj8.jpg

MFJ
02-20-2012, 10:24 AM
I plan on it this Thursday night at test and tune. Did the free mods since last time I went. Hopefully that will put it in the 12's, but I'm still on street tires too.

moge11
02-20-2012, 12:35 PM
I plan on it this Thursday night at test and tune. Did the free mods since last time I went. Hopefully that will put it in the 12's, but I'm still on street tires too.

What free-mods did you do??? Did you remove screen from MAF?, Port throttle body??

MFJ
02-20-2012, 12:51 PM
What free-mods did you do??? Did you remove screen from MAF?, Port throttle body??

Airbox mod, ported & polished the throttle body, throttle stop mod, TB coolant lines and K&N filter (which I don't think will help). I did not remove the screen on the MAF.

moge11
02-20-2012, 06:58 PM
take that damn screen out...:D

MFJ
02-20-2012, 07:08 PM
take that damn screen out...:D

Will that really do anything? I know the other mods helped.

TransAmWS.6
02-20-2012, 08:39 PM
Will that really do anything? I know the other mods helped.

That's one of the "free mods" that are not really worth it if you're expecting to see some actual gains, you'll see maybe 1-3rwhp at the most. Not going to make a difference at the track.

Brandon331
02-20-2012, 10:04 PM
my 02 m6 with a u/d pully, ported tb, ls6 intake, stage 2 clutch, 3450 lbs with out me in it with 4 10 gears, 1 7/8 heads, lid pretty much every bolt on you can think off lol went 12.39 on nitto 305/45r18 drag radials oh and i have a pretty good bit off suspenion lol i went 7.79 with a 4 56 and et streets but on top end the car was a dog past 100 mph lol

moge11
02-22-2012, 12:41 AM
Will that really do anything? I know the other mods helped.

just think of how much surface area is there....its restricting the intake quite a bit... i lightly ported the housing too... 1-3hp is 1-3hp.. when you do that 2 or 3 times it adds up...7-8rwhp is good for a mph in the 1/4 on this level....to me, that is a LOT for FREE!

98_1LE
02-22-2012, 10:30 PM
Many times taking the screen out and even removing the divider in the MAF produces gains in stock cars, but as you add other mods, it causes issues. I believe they add power to a stock car by tricking it into running a little leaner.

I will never ever remove one again.

ANTICOP RAM AIR
02-22-2012, 10:37 PM
I went 13.06 on slicks with 143k mile motor with only a lid... I wasnt a noob at the track though... Best bang for your buck is gears and a converter... Im still stock motor with a little better gear and a 3200 stall on Nitto DRs.... 12s are pretty easy...

kingd_202
02-22-2012, 11:04 PM
My black 01 ram air went 8.5's bone stock in the 1/8 (that should be in the 12's in 1/4)with original goodyears. I will try and see if my buddy has any videos.

MFJ
02-23-2012, 05:45 AM
Mine was 8.4 in the 1/8th but still only got the 13.006. If the rain hold s out I'm going tonight.

moge11
02-23-2012, 01:40 PM
Mine was 8.4 in the 1/8th but still only got the 13.006. If the rain hold s out I'm going tonight.

keep us posted... cant wait to see what you gain

moge11
02-24-2012, 01:18 AM
WEELLLLL???!!!!! waitin on some times!!! what happened? did ya puss out or did the weather get ya??? lol!!! just fkn with ya

MFJ
02-24-2012, 06:43 AM
WEELLLLL???!!!!! waitin on some times!!! what happened? did ya puss out or did the weather get ya??? lol!!! just fkn with ya

Well....pretty disappointed. I spun all over the track in every gear but 4th. The times were really inconsistent too. Probably from the spinning. I couldn't 60' anything. I really thought it would do it after the mods. Air was really bad too I think...really humid. I don't know what good DA is but it was +2200 with a head wind of 15 -20 mph with 25 mph gusts.

2 almost identical runs also the best I could do::bang:

r/t .256
60' 2.054
1/8th 8.666
mph 83.92
1/4 13.311 @ 106.40

moge11
02-24-2012, 09:52 AM
thats not very good DA... it'll do it... you'll just have to be patient...my car felt slow all day, til the Evening.... then it was running harder than ever!! good god was it runnin hard in the evening, but was very disappointed in the afternoon. bout 8:30 it started runnin hard.
You'll get it. it WILL happen.. good luck man keep us posted

Mr.L88
02-24-2012, 10:16 AM
12's should be possible with a good track and driver in a stock 3.42 equipped car. In the early days free mods did work and the guys doing them realized that stacking 2-3hp mods was worth the effort due to the fact that there were not as many tried and proved parts combos in those days and it was a rare individual that would do warranty voiding work on a car they were still making a payment on. Also, keep in mind that parts like suspension bushings etc were "new" in those days. If you car is all stock today the bushings will have some age on them. FTR Evan also was the guy that put the factory C5 Z06 into the 11's. Driver mod is the first place to start.

S8ER95Z
02-24-2012, 12:19 PM
All my car needed was a better driver... IMHO... all the numbers were there...I just suck

Bone stock, paper filter, spare tire jack all on board, GYE RSAs.

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/18487098/2vmwy15.jpg

MFJ
02-25-2012, 04:28 AM
My car needs a better driver too. Headers, exhaust and tires are on the way so Maybe This Thursday will be better DA. I did an adjusted DA comparison between these runs and my last runs and according to that my car did pick up just driving didn't show it because of it.
Original runs were at 13.006 @ -250 DA these were at 13.311 @ +2200 DA.

DA is according to Dragtimes.com

rokinv8
03-16-2012, 08:48 PM
i ran 12.76 @ 108.98mph. i have an 02 Z28 automatic with 132,000 miles. Bought a set of drag radials for $50 and threw them on the car and took it out to the strip. On the 5th pass i ran the 12.76 after running a 12.96, 12.98, 12.91, 12.89 previously. DA was between 600-650 ft if i remember correctly. Just got exhaust, tune, and intake on the car. Cant wait to get back out there and see what it does!