Gen 5 Camaro External Bolt-On Tech - cold air intake

what do you guys think is the best cold air intake, slp, k&N, AIR AIDE, volant for my 2012 camaro ss. thank you:corn:

None that you listed.

Cold Air Inductions, ADM and Halltech.

Halltech is the only one out of the top 3 that will not give you heat soak. ADM and CAI both use aluminum tubes that heat up after driving and cause your air intake temps and your under hood temps to go up. Halltech comes with an inverted tip filter that lets in more air and the others don't.

All of those will give you 14rwhp more. If you get a ADM scoop with washer bottle replacement you will get an additional 4rwhp. The ADM scoop will work with all three.

Jannetty racing did tests on all aftermarket air intakes and these were the top 3.

Roto-fab

Roto-fab

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Roto Fab will give you 5rwhp more than stock

None of them give much over stock. I ran a vararam and liked the throttle response but lost a tenth at the track. Plus the damn neck tweaked, they warranted it and it did it again, its gone.

K&N has a lot of experience and is a quality product, but is it really cold-air by definition?

None that you listed.

Cold Air Inductions, ADM and Halltech.

Halltech is the only one out of the top 3 that will not give you heat soak. ADM and CAI both use aluminum tubes that heat up after driving and cause your air intake temps and your under hood temps to go up. Halltech comes with an inverted tip filter that lets in more air and the others don't.

All of those will give you 14rwhp more. If you get a ADM scoop with washer bottle replacement you will get an additional 4rwhp. The ADM scoop will work with all three.

Jannetty racing did tests on all aftermarket air intakes and these were the top 3.

+1, those are the top 3. I have the Halltech and it is very nice. I also added the ADM scoop to it.

K&N has a lot of experience and is a quality product, but is it really cold-air by definition?

K&N will add 9 rwhp

+1, those are the top 3. I have the Halltech and it is very nice. I also added the ADM scoop to it.


The scoop is a big plus but even if someone can't or doesn't want to cut the shroud and bolt in the scoop, moving the washer bottle is a must if your putting in an after market air intake.

The washer bottle sits below the air intake area and prevents cold air from being brought in from the ground. Its cheap and easy to do, if you can put in an air intake you can move the washer bottle.

dyn othe shit before and after. I'll LOLOL when you lose power

dyn othe shit before and after. I'll LOLOL when you lose power

I think you are onto something.

Roto Fab will give you 5rwhp more than stock
If that's the case then so will all the other CAI's.

If that's the case then so will all the other CAI's.

I'm getting these numbers from the Jannetty Racing Air Intake Results. Google it.

Ted Jannetty has a good rep as being an honest guy. He tested all the air intakes and the results were an eye opener. Hennessy was last, you actually lost HP with them. Some of the other big names were big duds.




http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=107002&highlight=JANNETTY+RACING+results&page=6

I'm getting these numbers from the Jannetty Racing Air Intake Results. Google it.

Ted Jannetty has a good rep as being an honest guy. He tested all the air intakes and the results were an eye opener. Hennessy was last, you actually lost HP with them. Some of the other big names were big duds.




http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=107002&highlight=JANNETTY+RACING+results&page=6

This test may be biased from the fact I think the computer is rich to begin with and an install and dyno run may give gain and the computer taketh away later. My 2 cents and experience with a vararam. Great at first, felt a gain but maybe not so much at WOT as stock. After a 100 mile learn it went a tenth slower at the track in better weather, took it off, went back to stock and felt no loss. Back to the track a few weeks later and car was batshit fast. WTF.

This test may be biased from the fact I think the computer is rich to begin with and an install and dyno run may give gain and the computer taketh away later. My 2 cents and experience with a vararam. Great at first, felt a gain but maybe not so much at WOT as stock. After a 100 mile learn it went a tenth slower at the track in better weather, took it off, went back to stock and felt no loss. Back to the track a few weeks later and car was batshit fast. WTF.

absolutely , I have said it a 1000 times, if your not going to Dyno tune the car don't bother adding bolt on's. If you don't have headers then don't bother adding a air intake because if you can't get it out you wont get it in.

Another thing that you have to consider is what type of racing you do. These test were done to simulate a car a the drag strip. If you do a lot of street racing like I do you have to consider heat soak. I've never owned a Vararam but it sits over the radiator so heat soak might be a factor.

Did you have your car Dyno'ed after you installed the Vararam?

I'm getting these numbers from the Jannetty Racing Air Intake Results. Google it.

Ted Jannetty has a good rep as being an honest guy. He tested all the air intakes and the results were an eye opener. Hennessy was last, you actually lost HP with them. Some of the other big names were big duds.




http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=107002&highlight=JANNETTY+RACING+results&page=6

I've seen that test since he did it. My car constantly dyno'd higher numbers than most others on the Speed Inc. dyno and I had a Roto-Fab. I also had some every bolt-on but IMO the Roto-Fab is the best intake on the market and I never saw any power left on the table from it. It seems like the people Camaro5 take Janetty's word as gospel.

No, never dynoed. I installed dynatechs and gutted cats I got used and had coated plus the hurst shifter [love it] Made a huge difference but car went into storage so didn't bother with the tune. I just bought a used roto-fab for $175 shipped and an unlocked SCT tuner for $100. I'm adding these and a pulley then getting a Jannetty tune. I think I can drive it to low 12's maybe better with a tire.
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I've seen that test since he did it. My car constantly dyno'd higher numbers than most others on the Speed Inc. dyno and I had a Roto-Fab. I also had some every bolt-on but IMO the Roto-Fab is the best intake on the market and I never saw any power left on the table from it. It seems like the people Camaro5 take Janetty's word as gospel.

Dyno's all read different whats important is the gains made. I don't trust anything on the Camaro5 website except for Jannetty. I've never had a Roto Fab so I can't say if his finding are true for that brand. I bought a Cold Air Inductions intake and I got 18rwhp more with the scoop. It was checked before and after CAI installation.

Dyno's all read different whats important is the gains made. I don't trust anything on the Camaro5 website except for Jannetty. I've never had a Roto Fab so I can't say if his finding are true for that brand. I bought a Cold Air Inductions intake and I got 18rwhp more with the scoop. It was checked before and after CAI installation.

To discount a whole site from having issues with a few individuals is kinda paranoid. Are they out to get you? J/K
Jannettys personal thread about his experience at a drag strip with a vararam was 3 tenths, why didn't you trust that? Dyno's or what should runs don't help unless it works for me. Vararam didn't and the 2 I had creased the neck and looked like shit, I sold the 3rd one they sent me.

This test may be biased from the fact I think the computer is rich to begin with and an install and dyno run may give gain and the computer taketh away later. My 2 cents and experience with a vararam. Great at first, felt a gain but maybe not so much at WOT as stock. After a 100 mile learn it went a tenth slower at the track in better weather, took it off, went back to stock and felt no loss. Back to the track a few weeks later and car was batshit fast. WTF.

I wouldn't even consider the Vararam for the camaro, nothing but problems. They make a good intake for the vette but that's about it.

I wouldn't even consider the Vararam for the camaro, nothing but problems. They make a good intake for the vette but that's about it.

Crazy dyno numbers, whats that badass run? Need some tears to flow from the C5 haters.:eek2:

[QUOTE=glennster;15877210]No, never dynoed. I installed dynatechs and gutted cats I got used and had coated plus the hurst shifter [love it] Made a huge difference but car went into storage so didn't bother with the tune. I just bought a used roto-fab for $175 shipped and an unlocked SCT tuner for $100. I'm adding these and a pulley then getting a Jannetty tune. I think I can drive it to low 12's maybe better with a tire.




I would get an inverted tip filter if I was you and a tune from a professional shop. Store bought or mail order tunes suck in comparison. Store your old tune on the SCT tuner. I like Dynatech headers they are thicker than the other Stainless headers out there. If your going to add Noz they can take the heat better.

Its like you said before, I found without a tune the ECM relearns what you've done and corrects it because its programmed to do so.

To discount a whole site from having issues with a few individuals is kinda paranoid. Are they out to get you? J/K
Jannettys personal thread about his experience at a drag strip with a vararam was 3 tenths, why didn't you trust that? Dyno's or what should runs don't help unless it works for me. Vararam didn't and the 2 I had creased the neck and looked like shit, I sold the 3rd one they sent me.



Its not being paranoid when a moderator deletes anything bad said about a vendor.

I think you miss understood, Jannetty is the only one on that site I trusted that ran tests. A lot of the same vendors on that site are on this site. Some of them just don't make the same claims on this site. Why?

As far as Camaro5 its the shitest site on the web. Pimple head moderators who dont even own a car and a administrator that puts the vendors profit before the members gains. It should be shut down.

Crazy dyno numbers, whats that badass run? Need some tears to flow from the C5 haters.:eek2:

Haven't run it yet, just had the cam installed last week. I'm very happy with it, pulls hard. Hopefully I can get some times in the next month or so.

Dyno's all read different whats important is the gains made. I don't trust anything on the Camaro5 website except for Jannetty. I've never had a Roto Fab so I can't say if his finding are true for that brand. I bought a Cold Air Inductions intake and I got 18rwhp more with the scoop. It was checked before and after CAI installation.

I understand, that's why I said my car made more HP on Speed Inc.'s dyno than other bolt-on cars. I am a believer in the Roto-Fab and wish they made a Vette CAI. Now I'm going with Halltech. I hear a lot of good things about them for the Vette community.

I understand, that's why I said my car made more HP on Speed Inc.'s dyno than other bolt-on cars. I am a believer in the Roto-Fab and wish they made a Vette CAI. Now I'm going with Halltech. I hear a lot of good things about them for the Vette community.

im deciding between halltech and vararam. lately, ive heard a lot of good things about halltech and i know people rave over vararam, ive seen some crazy gains with that setup.


to the op, i LOVED my cold air inductions intake. top quality

i'm going with Halltech, ordered a TSP one but they are having an issue with getting the intake tubing in stock, so I have decided to go with the Halltech

was all but set on a Cold Air Inductions, but this topic has changed my mind... don't trust the guys on Camaro5, they take everything the vendors or Janetty says as the be all truth, lol... with CAIs, peak HP doesn't mean much.. its all about heat soak and LTFTs...

Janetty seems to be the "man" over there as far as tuning and what not, i'd put a Trifecta Tuned car up against a Jannetty tuned car any day of the week ;)

i'm going with Halltech, ordered a TSP one but they are having an issue with getting the intake tubing in stock, so I have decided to go with the Halltech

was all but set on a Cold Air Inductions, but this topic has changed my mind... don't trust the guys on Camaro5, they take everything the vendors or Janetty says as the be all truth, lol... with CAIs, peak HP doesn't mean much.. its all about heat soak and LTFTs...

Janetty seems to be the "man" over there as far as tuning and what not, i'd put a Trifecta Tuned car up against a Jannetty tuned car any day of the week ;)
Do you have a jannetty tune for comparison. I've dealt with Ted, he is a stand up straight shooter. I wouldn't brag about an exhaust/tune car running 13.2 unless you are on Everest.:secret2:

that was x-pipe only ;)(and at Steele on a Midnight Madness night with NO vht on the track, though I still hooked decent, just not as well as it SHOULD)

as in no EXTRA power... it'll now hit 110 in 13.1 seconds on the street in 39 degree weather(with the video to prove it, lol) with absolutely no launch because of the conditions

the thing that scared me about his tunes is he says they are "dialed" and data logging "usually isn't needed"... i've seen one to many IDENTICAL cars be datalogged with almost identical mods to say that is never a great idea... always datalog, some cars have KR from the factory

He's always taken time for me and is patient with my concerns. I didn't even buy the headers/cold air from him and he answered my questions and got my tune and JRE scoop right off. Have to love immediate response because you know if you have issues he'll contact you straight away.

i'm going with Halltech, ordered a TSP one but they are having an issue with getting the intake tubing in stock, so I have decided to go with the Halltech

was all but set on a Cold Air Inductions, but this topic has changed my mind... don't trust the guys on Camaro5, they take everything the vendors or Janetty says as the be all truth, lol... with CAIs, peak HP doesn't mean much.. its all about heat soak and LTFTs...

Janetty seems to be the "man" over there as far as tuning and what not, i'd put a Trifecta Tuned car up against a Jannetty tuned car any day of the week ;)

Nice choice going with the Halltech, its a good one!

He's always taken time for me and is patient with my concerns. I didn't even buy the headers/cold air from him and he answered my questions and got my tune and JRE scoop right off. Have to love immediate response because you know if you have issues he'll contact you straight away.

i'm not knocking the man, his cars perform... he does log some cars, etc.. I honestly probably WOULD have went with him if I hadn't of already had the EZ flash cable from Vince from my last car

and $200 for a tune for this car? can't beat that(actually it was lower, I'm just not allowed to state what it was, that is as low as I can advertise his tunes)... though I only do it locally, not advertising per say, just word of mouth

Nice choice going with the Halltech, its a good one!

the TSP looked about the same, with exception of the filter, it too did not use an aluminum pipe... I'm with you guys on that causing heat soak, the Cold Air Inductions may perform well on a single dyno pull...

put it through 3 back to back dyno pulls and compare it to a non aluminum tubing intake... I would bet money it'd start to take a dive due to heatsoak

i'm going with Halltech, ordered a TSP one but they are having an issue with getting the intake tubing in stock, so I have decided to go with the Halltech

was all but set on a Cold Air Inductions, but this topic has changed my mind... don't trust the guys on Camaro5, they take everything the vendors or Janetty says as the be all truth, lol... with CAIs, peak HP doesn't mean much.. its all about heat soak and LTFTs...

Janetty seems to be the "man" over there as far as tuning and what not, i'd put a Trifecta Tuned car up against a Jannetty tuned car any day of the week ;)



I bought a Cold Air Inductions intake and I can tell you that you will like the Halltech better. The lid on the CAI has cheap little half screw and the air filter is a joke. The Aluminum coated tube is a flame thrower under the hood. Like I said, I covered the tube with pipe insulation and the temps are as low as the outside air now. I will post pics tomorrow.

I didn't find out about the benefits of the Halltech system until after I posted on a CAI thread bitchen about the problems. The guy from Halltech chimed in telling me his came with an inverted tip filter and a plastic tube. I got pissy with the Halltech guy because his website doesn't mention the inverted tip filter and he never made any effort to let the members on the site know about the CAI tube heating up until AFTER I bitched about it.

Let me know how you like the Halltech when you get it on.

I agree with u guys halltech hands down, love it and the performance well worth tha money

Roto-fab has a tapered plastic tube with velocity stack entry and an inverted cone filter.

im deciding between halltech and vararam. lately, ive heard a lot of good things about halltech and i know people rave over vararam, ive seen some crazy gains with that setup.


to the op, i LOVED my cold air inductions intake. top quality

Halltech seems to be the way to go.

^ over here, not over there(Camaro5), lol...

its a matter of going fast and performing over here.........or supporting a vendor over there, lol

and honestly, i'm thinking about doing mid pipes instead of the CAI for now... will do BOTH in the next month or so... but I figure might as well finish off the exhaust(except the headers) and then do the CAI... I hear there is a pretty good gain ditching the stock cats for high flow cats, people say they've gotten 15-20whp from the Solo Cats, though i'm thinking about going with JBA


not only will it finish off the exhaust from the headers back, it'll also probably be a bigger "ass dyno" gain, lol

^ over here, not over there(Camaro5), lol...

its a matter of going fast and performing over here.........or supporting a vendor over there, lol

and honestly, i'm thinking about doing mid pipes instead of the CAI for now... will do BOTH in the next month or so... but I figure might as well finish off the exhaust(except the headers) and then do the CAI... I hear there is a pretty good gain ditching the stock cats for high flow cats, people say they've gotten 15-20whp from the Solo Cats, though i'm thinking about going with JBA


not only will it finish off the exhaust from the headers back, it'll also probably be a bigger "ass dyno" gain, lol
I did run JBA catted mids for a while and the sound improvement is awesome and you will feel quite a gain, way more then an intake.

Any mail order tune sucks compared to taking it to a good Dyno shop, and a Dyno shop tune cost about the same as the hand held programmers that are out there.

If anyone has a Aluminum tube air intake and wants to get rid of the heat soak, I covered mine with a one piece pipe insulation that slips over the tube and looks nice. I will post some pics of it. I can give you the name of the company I got mine from. I didn't pay for mine so I can't tell you how much it costs. The guy that owns the company is real nice and wouldn't charge much. He makes his money on big pipe jobs.

I know a girl who makes money on big pipe jobs.

I know a girl who makes money on big pipe jobs.


If only I had a large pipe:cry:

Yeah, I had a small job and did it by hand.

Any mail order tune sucks compared to taking it to a good Dyno shop, and a Dyno shop tune cost about the same as the hand held programmers that are out there.

If anyone has a Aluminum tube air intake and wants to get rid of the heat soak, I covered mine with a one piece pipe insulation that slips over the tube and looks nice. I will post some pics of it. I can give you the name of the company I got mine from. I didn't pay for mine so I can't tell you how much it costs. The guy that owns the company is real nice and wouldn't charge much. He makes his money on big pipe jobs.

I am interested. Would like some pics and info. If it looks halfway decent Ill buy one.

You can pm me the info if you dont want to post it.

thanks a lot, Troy

I am interested. Would like some pics and info. If it looks halfway decent Ill buy one.

You can pm me the info if you dont want to post it.

thanks a lot, Troy

I'll give you a piece of it. I have a 2' piece left and I can just go to his shop if I need more.

I'll post the pics when I get to work tonight

This is the Pipe insulation I put over the tube on my CAI intake. We put it on fast just to see if it would work so I didn't make sure the cuts were nice and neet. I had an extra piece to make it look pretty latter on.

The tube temperature was at 154 degrees F before I insulated it and after the tube temperature was the same as the ambient temperature out side the car. I had pics of the before temp shot with a laser thermometer but I can't find them. The Aluminum tube uncovered is like a flame thrower under the hood. The first time I popped the hood after I installed the CAI intake I couldn't believe how much more heat there was

I would put this insulation over a plastic tube if I had one, it makes that big of a difference.

Click on the pictures and they will enlarge.

This is the Pipe insulation I put over the tube on my CAI intake. We put it on fast just to see if it would work so I didn't make sure the cuts were nice and neet. I had an extra piece to make it look pretty latter on.

The tube temperature was at 154 degrees F before I insulated it and after the tube temperature was the same as the ambient temperature out side the car. I had pics of the before temp shot with a laser thermometer but I can't find them. The Aluminum tube uncovered is like a flame thrower under the hood. The first time I popped the hood after I installed the CAI intake I couldn't believe how much more heat there was

I would put this insulation over a plastic tube if I had one, it makes that big of a difference.

Click on the pictures and they will enlarge.

do you think, you can buy this at home depo

I know I'm probably totally missing this somewhere, but I need to know how (preferably visually!) to install my CAI on my 2002 camaro? I'm new to the whole domestic car scene even though I know that's not an excuse! Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks a lot guys!

I know I'm probably totally missing this somewhere, but I need to know how (preferably visually!) to install my CAI on my 2002 camaro? I'm new to the whole domestic car scene even though I know that's not an excuse! Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks a lot guys!

What kind do you have? For a 2002 try LS1HOWTO.com