what else is need for a head and cam swap
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what else is need for a head and cam swap
soooo im tryingto peice together a heads cam package and besides just the obvious wat other supporting mods do i need or should i do. i no pushrods and oil pump are something but what else
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A new set of head bolts & gaskets...waterpump gasket set. You might reuse the timing cover gasket. New harmonic balancer bolt.
You'll need tools to remove the balancer (threaded rod/puller), & a power steering pulley puller. The power steering pulley puller/install tool can be rented at AutoZone/ Advance Auto, etc. You pay a deposit for the tool, and when it's returned, you get your money back.
How many miles do you have on your engine? Maybe you don't have to change the oil pump, but as long as you're in there, it could be advisable. Also, the timing chain. I'd say, if you have 70 or 80k miles, change it.
Did I leave anything out?? Anyone else chime in?
You'll need tools to remove the balancer (threaded rod/puller), & a power steering pulley puller. The power steering pulley puller/install tool can be rented at AutoZone/ Advance Auto, etc. You pay a deposit for the tool, and when it's returned, you get your money back.
How many miles do you have on your engine? Maybe you don't have to change the oil pump, but as long as you're in there, it could be advisable. Also, the timing chain. I'd say, if you have 70 or 80k miles, change it.
Did I leave anything out?? Anyone else chime in?
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My list for mine was:
- head bolts (mandatory)
-GM MLS gaskets/ cometic (mandatory)
-ls7 lifters (recomended)
-ls2 lifter trays (recomended)
-new pushrods after you measure ofcourse, (dont buy until you measure)
-might want to look into trunion rocker upgrade (optional)
-water pump gasket
-Spring upgrade to support new cam
-new intake manifold gaskets (mine were trashed)
-new crank bolt
-allow money for dyno tune
-bigger injectors (36-42lb?)
- head bolts (mandatory)
-GM MLS gaskets/ cometic (mandatory)
-ls7 lifters (recomended)
-ls2 lifter trays (recomended)
-new pushrods after you measure ofcourse, (dont buy until you measure)
-might want to look into trunion rocker upgrade (optional)
-water pump gasket
-Spring upgrade to support new cam
-new intake manifold gaskets (mine were trashed)
-new crank bolt
-allow money for dyno tune
-bigger injectors (36-42lb?)
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ok thanks guys ye my car has 73xxx miles on it so ill do a new oil pump and i was looking at 32 lb injectors is that gonna b big enough im looking at the tsp torquer v.3 cam and i have a weiand intake and ls6 heads
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just remember that injector rating is different for the LS series. most injectors are rated at the industry standard of like 43(ish) psi. LS motors run at 59(ish) so you have to do the math to convert. you only know if you need bigger injectors once you are on the dyno. if the computer shows you are over 80% duty cycle, then you should go bigger. for the average builds ford svo 30s are a popular choice. They flow 30lbs at the ford fuel rail but 36lbs on a LS1.
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My list for mine was:
- head bolts (mandatory)
-GM MLS gaskets/ cometic (mandatory)
-ls7 lifters (recomended)
-ls2 lifter trays (recomended)
-new pushrods after you measure ofcourse, (dont buy until you measure)
-might want to look into trunion rocker upgrade (optional)
-water pump gasket
-Spring upgrade to support new cam
-new intake manifold gaskets (mine were trashed)
-new crank bolt
-allow money for dyno tune
-bigger injectors (36-42lb?)
- head bolts (mandatory)
-GM MLS gaskets/ cometic (mandatory)
-ls7 lifters (recomended)
-ls2 lifter trays (recomended)
-new pushrods after you measure ofcourse, (dont buy until you measure)
-might want to look into trunion rocker upgrade (optional)
-water pump gasket
-Spring upgrade to support new cam
-new intake manifold gaskets (mine were trashed)
-new crank bolt
-allow money for dyno tune
-bigger injectors (36-42lb?)
Only things I would add:
Oil Pump (I used the Melling 10295)
New Timing Chain/Gears (LSA Chain setup, got mine from Yank)
Timing Cover Gasket
Front Crankshaft Seal
Black RTV for the corners of the timing cover.
Depending on the spring kit, it may or may not come with valve seals, but it wouldnt hurt to replace them while your there.
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ok thank you all for the information! ill b picking up 42 lb injectors when i order my cam would roller rocker arms b a good idea also? and i have f.a.s.t. fuel rails i dont kno if that changes anything
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Only things I would add:
Oil Pump (I used the Melling 10295)
New Timing Chain/Gears (LSA Chain setup, got mine from Yank)
Timing Cover Gasket
Front Crankshaft Seal
Black RTV for the corners of the timing cover.
Depending on the spring kit, it may or may not come with valve seals, but it wouldnt hurt to replace them while your there.
Oil Pump (I used the Melling 10295)
New Timing Chain/Gears (LSA Chain setup, got mine from Yank)
Timing Cover Gasket
Front Crankshaft Seal
Black RTV for the corners of the timing cover.
Depending on the spring kit, it may or may not come with valve seals, but it wouldnt hurt to replace them while your there.
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ordered my cam (went with the 233/239 cam), valve springs(they didnt have the .650 in stock so the upgraded me to the .675 for free), pushrods, and racetronix 37 lb injectors from tsp ordered a egr block off and weiand intake gasket from summit this week about to order a heads/cam swap gasket set from tsp along with a slp oil pump and timing chain and the trunion upgrade for my stock rockers. is there anything else im missing??
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You need to add two friends and a case of beer to your list
May want to get a roll of the blue shop towels, 2-3 cans of brakekleen, and a few cans of high temp spray paint.....make sure you get all the dirt/water out of the head bolt holes, and you may even want to get a tap to clean the holes in the block.
May want to get a roll of the blue shop towels, 2-3 cans of brakekleen, and a few cans of high temp spray paint.....make sure you get all the dirt/water out of the head bolt holes, and you may even want to get a tap to clean the holes in the block.
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only other thing i would recommend buying is one of those books on ebay on how to disassemble these engines and upgrade them, in your case it doesn't sound like you ever did this, i wouldn't rush anything or 2nd guess anything, you wanna do this right the first time and be done with it
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ordered my cam (went with the 233/239 cam), valve springs(they didnt have the .650 in stock so the upgraded me to the .675 for free), pushrods, and racetronix 37 lb injectors from tsp ordered a egr block off and weiand intake gasket from summit this week about to order a heads/cam swap gasket set from tsp along with a slp oil pump and timing chain and the trunion upgrade for my stock rockers. is there anything else im missing??
Originally Posted by mark21742
make sure you get all the dirt/water out of the head bolt holes, and you may even want to get a tap to clean the holes in the block.
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