Good donor car or not?
02-08-2012, 05:36 PM
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Good donor car or not? So I have had my eyes focused on picking up a 4th gen to start my LSx swap, and ran into one today and wanted to see what you guys think... help push me if you think its a good idea.
98 Z28 T56, lq4 swapped with PRC stage 2.5 LS6 heads... with as described "some light rod knock" (Tx perf rods??? he says). Has some bolt on such as headers, underdrive pullies, and performance harmonic balancer.
The body is clean, with custom paint, spoiler, rear hatch (notchback style), C5 ZO6 17" & 18" wheels, clean interior, with cloth seats.
Is the $3500 OBO asking price seem like a decent move considering I'm likely buying an shortblock that will need a full rebuild. I plan to strip and sell everything 4th gen I can beyond the engine, trans, computer/harness, fuel tank... and maybe cluster.
Used ls1 T56 combos in my area are fetching $3k +... The busted LQ4, and aftermarket heads worth buying the whole thing?
This would be going into my 1991 Z28 FWIW
98 Z28 T56, lq4 swapped with PRC stage 2.5 LS6 heads... with as described "some light rod knock" (Tx perf rods??? he says). Has some bolt on such as headers, underdrive pullies, and performance harmonic balancer.
The body is clean, with custom paint, spoiler, rear hatch (notchback style), C5 ZO6 17" & 18" wheels, clean interior, with cloth seats.
Is the $3500 OBO asking price seem like a decent move considering I'm likely buying an shortblock that will need a full rebuild. I plan to strip and sell everything 4th gen I can beyond the engine, trans, computer/harness, fuel tank... and maybe cluster.
Used ls1 T56 combos in my area are fetching $3k +... The busted LQ4, and aftermarket heads worth buying the whole thing?
This would be going into my 1991 Z28 FWIW
02-16-2012, 06:27 PM
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02-16-2012, 09:42 PM
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Do some major persuasion!! You will be reaching deeper in your pockets by piecing it together. That is a pretty nice looking car, and all the parts are right there. Plus after you part the rest out or sell it as a roller, you could make back a lot of your money. Then buy a nice 6.0 short block for cheap and sell the LS1 short block. So many options! Oh well, good luck.
02-17-2012, 09:08 AM
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Agreed, that piece is a gold mine! Putting the SS hood, hatch and spoiler on CL should fetch you around $800+, a clean interior should get you another $500+ (if you sell EVERYTHING out of it), dash, console, trim, etc), T-tops are $50+, RS ground effects... this thing is FULL of Craigslist goodness!
... And it comes with PRC 2.5 heads, an LQ4 block, a T56 and bolt-ons?!? Your Mrs is fairly short sighted, or possibly naive if she can't understand what an investment this is!
Seriously, itemize the car part by part for her. Then cut that price in half and say, "Even if I only sell half the parts here and recover $1750, I'll still save twice the investment price long term! If I build the car in 3 years, the effective IRR is still 26%!"
She may not understand this, but generally, companies in the Fortune 500 use IRRs in the average of 12%-15% to decide if an investment is worth it. You will have a HUGE cashflow in the first year by selling body and interior parts on Craigslist, so you will be doing about twice as well as a "good" investment as defined by Fortune 500 companies!
Of course, this all assumes you are HIGHLY motivated to move the parts at good prices (not ultra cheap but not overly high) and that you WILL use the LQ4, T56 and heads.
If I were within 400 miles of this investment and had the space, I'd get this before you
... And it comes with PRC 2.5 heads, an LQ4 block, a T56 and bolt-ons?!? Your Mrs is fairly short sighted, or possibly naive if she can't understand what an investment this is!
Seriously, itemize the car part by part for her. Then cut that price in half and say, "Even if I only sell half the parts here and recover $1750, I'll still save twice the investment price long term! If I build the car in 3 years, the effective IRR is still 26%!"
She may not understand this, but generally, companies in the Fortune 500 use IRRs in the average of 12%-15% to decide if an investment is worth it. You will have a HUGE cashflow in the first year by selling body and interior parts on Craigslist, so you will be doing about twice as well as a "good" investment as defined by Fortune 500 companies!
Of course, this all assumes you are HIGHLY motivated to move the parts at good prices (not ultra cheap but not overly high) and that you WILL use the LQ4, T56 and heads.
If I were within 400 miles of this investment and had the space, I'd get this before you
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02-17-2012, 09:51 AM
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Do some major persuasion!! You will be reaching deeper in your pockets by piecing it together. That is a pretty nice looking car, and all the parts are right there. Plus after you part the rest out or sell it as a roller, you could make back a lot of your money. Then buy a nice 6.0 short block for cheap and sell the LS1 short block. So many options! Oh well, good luck.
Agreed, that piece is a gold mine! Putting the SS hood, hatch and spoiler on CL should fetch you around $800+, a clean interior should get you another $500+ (if you sell EVERYTHING out of it), dash, console, trim, etc), T-tops are $50+, RS ground effects... this thing is FULL of Craigslist goodness!
... And it comes with PRC 2.5 heads, an LQ4 block, a T56 and bolt-ons?!? Your Mrs is fairly short sighted, or possibly naive if she can't understand what an investment this is!
Seriously, itemize the car part by part for her. Then cut that price in half and say, "Even if I only sell half the parts here and recover $1750, I'll still save twice the investment price long term! If I build the car in 3 years, the effective IRR is still 26%!"
She may not understand this, but generally, companies in the Fortune 500 use IRRs in the average of 12%-15% to decide if an investment is worth it. You will have a HUGE cashflow in the first year by selling body and interior parts on Craigslist, so you will be doing about twice as well as a "good" investment as defined by Fortune 500 companies!
Of course, this all assumes you are HIGHLY motivated to move the parts at good prices (not ultra cheap but not overly high) and that you WILL use the LQ4, T56 and heads.
If I were within 400 miles of this investment and had the space, I'd get this before you
... And it comes with PRC 2.5 heads, an LQ4 block, a T56 and bolt-ons?!? Your Mrs is fairly short sighted, or possibly naive if she can't understand what an investment this is!
Seriously, itemize the car part by part for her. Then cut that price in half and say, "Even if I only sell half the parts here and recover $1750, I'll still save twice the investment price long term! If I build the car in 3 years, the effective IRR is still 26%!"
She may not understand this, but generally, companies in the Fortune 500 use IRRs in the average of 12%-15% to decide if an investment is worth it. You will have a HUGE cashflow in the first year by selling body and interior parts on Craigslist, so you will be doing about twice as well as a "good" investment as defined by Fortune 500 companies!
Of course, this all assumes you are HIGHLY motivated to move the parts at good prices (not ultra cheap but not overly high) and that you WILL use the LQ4, T56 and heads.
If I were within 400 miles of this investment and had the space, I'd get this before you
Well I really wish I could have pulled this one together, cause I'm sure I won't be seeing anything like this for this price again. The wifey doesn't understand my love for the car, and all extra money at this point "needs" to go to our new baby... Kinda understandable, but the car guy in me is screaming
The car got sold pretty quick, and it wasn't to me
02-17-2012, 10:51 AM
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Well I really wish I could have pulled this one together, cause I'm sure I won't be seeing anything like this for this price again. The wifey doesn't understand my love for the car, and all extra money at this point "needs" to go to our new baby... Kinda understandable, but the car guy in me is screaming
The car got sold pretty quick, and it wasn't to me
The car got sold pretty quick, and it wasn't to me
Kidding, but clearly someone out there thought "My girlfriend's opinion doesn't matter!"
He's dead now, but he has a killer powertrain to be buried with... 
02-17-2012, 02:18 PM
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Why did you guys not answer this thread when I first posted about it... We could be talking about how horrible the dog house is with my 6.0
