Drag Racing Tech - Going down the 1/4 for the first time... Come give me tips

I have a 2000 Camaross Stock except exhaust. I have 275/40/18 BFG KDW wheels on it with some Ruff Racing Rims. Iv heard a burnout on street tires is poitless but i have to drive through the waterbox you cant go around it. So my question is should i do a burnout of some sort? Also how should i launch the car and at what RPM? Its an M6. Some people say dump the clutch and go, but then my friend who races down the 1/4 all the time said i should do a slip clutch launch but he drives a wrx thats all wheel drive so not sure which i should do... Also any other tips would help as well... Thanks in advance!

By exhaust i mean cat back slp lm1 thats it.

You will just have to try and see what works for you and your car man. Some tracks are better and are much better preped wich makes a big difference on how you are able to launch..make a couple test passes and see what works for yah.

Do a very short maybe 3 second burnout just to clean off the tires. Leave your tire pressure at about 30-32 psi, no lower. Dont just dump the clutch or they will just go up in smoke, you want to let the motor do the work getting you off the line with stock tires, so kinda bog it from 2000 and just let the torque pull you off the line. As you get more confident, try launching more and more aggressive with the clutch until you start smoking the tires again. Shift at least at 6000rpm, powershifting if you are experienced enough. Dont let off the throttle until you are clearly past the finish line.

My car has 140000 on it so im kinda scared im going to break something lol. It burns oil and leaks out the rear main haha. I go through about half a quart of oil a week haha. But what ever works best il do. If i break something oh well lol

Tips:

- Remove unneeded weight and clutter
- Car needs to be mechanically sound, no leaks or smoke, if you do, they will pull you out.
- Show up early
- Set tire pressure hard for fronts and something in the mid 30's since your tire compound will not benefit for a soft PSI.
- Never expect your best time first run out
- Make sure A/C is off and has been off for a while
- Seatbelt on
- Helmet on (if applicable)
- Radio OFF
- Seat up right for better leverage
- Lock your left arm tight and elbow against the door skin and keep it locked, DO NOT MOVE IT when driving/shifting.
- Watch the track guys and their hand motions, when to come up.
- If can drive around the water box.
- A minor spin is acceptible to get gravel/rocks/sand off tires.
- Watch the staging lights, do not go over.
- Do not hammer it. Rev 2k, and drive. Clean shifts a plus, no power shifting.

- Most importantly, have fun.

If you cut a good 60 which for your car is 2.2 or better then your fine, if you dont, then you have some work to do.

After you go and get some info, and experience, then we can help you improve from there.

Sweet thanks for the tips! I can't wait to go! I hate the hundreds of people watching but its what ever lol.

Sweet thanks for the tips! I can't wait to go! I hate the hundreds of people watching but its what ever lol.

Pay more money and go on a track rental day. May pay 100$ but its generally 40-60 cars and not many people watching persay compared to a "Street Night"

Sweet thanks for the tips! I can't wait to go! I hate the hundreds of people watching but its what ever lol.

Good tips in that last post. I've bracket races since 1991 and everyone has to start somewhere. Don't worry about it, just go do it and learn while having fun.:D

One good thing to remember is that if your in the right lane and cross the line first that you still have a car running wideopen in the left lane. You want to make sure that when you pull over to get to the return lane that the other car isn't going to run you over. Alot of these imports/turbos don't get woundup until the end and you don't want to cause a wreck!

Go out there, Have fun, Be careful, Pay attention, Dont get pissy if it doesnt run what you thought it would, and get a feel for the car and track.

Its test and tune so I can get allot of passes in compared to bracket racing.

If possible since it's your first time try to go for the right lane this way you are looking right at the tree not across your car. As you get more passes under your belt it wont be as much an issue. I still like the right lane because at the track i go to most often I dont have to hold the brake on the line. I can just hold my rpm's where I like them then let the clutch go.

Update... Made 8 pass's today. It was a blast! The first time I was scared because I had spun out last time but it was at a different track with shitty prep... First pass was a 15 something... Then I got low 14's then I had a best pass of 13.7 and found out my clutch is slipping... Everytime I hit 6000rpm's it would bounce the limiter... I think I can get some 13.2's as soon as I get the new clutch in but then il have my new 390 engine in with a cam and il probably be in the 12's. That was awesome.... I think I'm addicted now. The first pass I was nervous but then got right over it! I can't wait to go again.

Good to hear you are having fun. I have always thought the key was to be prepared as possible by watching the routine from the fence and then being relaxed as possible. Don't feel rushed. Don't be flustered by the starting line people. Take your time and feel the car.

Now we need to figure out how I can run faster... When I got the 13.7 I left at 4000rpm and let the clutch out like I would from a stop light... I never spun my tires once on any of my launches... I got to figure out how to launch faster... Maybe let the clutch out a little faster?

What was your mph? Sounds like it was a good time.

102.5 I think.... I heard my cars supposed to run 13.2's

WHat a car runs depends on many factors.

Driver
Track
Time of Year
Density Altitude of the day/run
Transmission
Race weight

If you cut close to a 2.0 60 foot, thats good for a M6 car but kinda shitty on a A4 car.

Where you race has a HUGE influence on your ET and MPH.

- keep your eyes open
- don't turn left or right
- don't eat a sandwhich while staging
- don't leave in reverse
- don't stall
- don't run with 7 people in the car
- don't unplug 4 plug wires


that should cover most of it.

What do you think of the 13.7 Paul? Ryan and Matt are saying I should be a 13.2 but then the stock E.T. says 13.7 online...

hahahahahahahahahah i didn't even realize this was your post.

you should be low 13's imo. what was your 60 foot, 1/8, 1/8 traps and 1/4 traps?

R/T was .103
60 was 2.294
1/8th was 9.081/81.59mph
1/4 was 13.796/102.91

What track and on what date?

R/T was .103
60 was 2.294
1/8th was 9.081/81.59mph
1/4 was 13.796/102.91

that 1/8th is killing you. you wanna get like a 8.5 (least that was my goal)

and didnt you say your car leaked oil and smoked?:poke:

Yeah lol. Only smokes when you take the oil cap off though lol just some blow by... What am I doing wrong then lol how do I improve my 1/8 th?

Track was Mason Dixon and it was yesterday...

60 is meh but not absolutely terrible, 1/8 is slow and both mph are way down for a 6 speed car imo. i went 8.5 at 85 with an auto bone stock minus air lid.

do you have any videos of your runs?

No... I couldent go past 6000 though because either my clutch was slipping or the clutches in my rear end are almost done and it was spining one wheel. Everytime 6000 came around it would hit the limiter which isint till what 7200 maybe 7400? I can't remember.

I would get a dr if you could. That would help out a lot. Maybe a nitto since your n a stock rear.

Just was going over my time slips and found out on 1 I had a .011RT... If only I could do that everytime lol.

Well lets just say that anyone ONLY racing a automatics has no real place in advising on his driving of a T-56 as ET at any given distance and MPH is not reflective of what he has. If you race a M6 4th gen, that is basically the only people who should be commenting. I would never critique someone driving a ZR1 or something I have no clue about.

The time he ran is the time he ran. He feels a clutch slippage issue is there and I am sure it is, or very least the hydraulic system is shot which is a major bane for these cars.

In the end with stock type power, you can add a drag radial but as soon as you go beyond cam power, you need to do aggressive suspension upgrades and basically replace from the crank to the axle studs in the rear with all new parts. Otherwise your going to break everyone of the when you 6k clutch dump on a 28" tall ET Drags.

http://www.dragtimes.com/da-density-altitude-calculator.php

This is a good place to start to get to know where and when you run you car can effect results.

Example:


9:53 AM 37.9 F 45 % 29.78 in
10:53 AM 39.0 F 46 % 29.77 in
11:53 AM 42.1 F 41 % 29.76 in
12:53 PM 37.9 F 48 % 29.75 in
1:53 PM 39.9 F 40 % 29.73 in
2:53 PM 39.9 F 41 % 29.75 in
3:53 PM 39.0 F 45 % 29.76 in
4:53 PM 39.0 F 41 % 29.77 in

Typical track day time, temp, humidity, and baro.

Track Elevation: 522
feet above sea level

Density Altitude: -215 feet
Relative Density: 100.63 %

Basically on a normal, summer type day, your going to go slower. At Lebenon Vally Dragway NY, run your numbers based on the same day.

Or try Atco in New Jersey, even Milehigh dragway in Denver Co.

Your going to find out different people have different opinions of ET and MPH expectations so just do what you need to do. Make sure the car is safe, runs straight and get the clutch shit corrected or your looking at a 1600$ plus damage bill in a rebuild, not including hydraulics and clutch assembly.

-If someone does not like what I say, I hear yea. But at the same time keep it in perspective. M6 cars need time, practice, and the willingness to that transmission's life in their hands everytime they race,

If anyone has questions feel free to PM me, I have a lot of exp racing M6 cars and will feel free to help where I can.

^^Thanks. I have a monster stage 4 clutch in my living room so that should take care of that lol. The clutch has a 140000 on it and has been smoked once. But like I said il have my new shortblock in with a decent sided cam and will probably be in the 12's so il never know lol

Sised*** Cam... Stupid auto correct...

Well lets just say that anyone ONLY racing a automatics has no real place in advising on his driving of a T-56 as ET at any given distance and MPH is not reflective of what he has. If you race a M6 4th gen, that is basically the only people who should be commenting. I would never critique someone driving a ZR1 or something I have no clue about.




i'm sorry but who the fuck are you to claim who can and can't talk about anything? you need to check your attitude considering i bet i've driven more 6 speed cars to faster times than a majority of people who post.

Not likely.

Not likely.

right... because you're a know it all and yet know nothing.


you rambled for multiple paragraphs yet give him no actual information that is useful to him what so ever.

right... because you're a know it all and yet know nothing.


you rambled for multiple paragraphs yet give him no actual information that is useful to him what so ever.

Are you talking?

Feel free to send a PM if you have an issue. But you won't I have plent of room.

- Just for you, I cleaned out my entire box go for it.

What I can say is this.

The O/P is learning the car.

It is very easy to throw too much at him and confuse the crap out of him.

Once he takes the needed steps to learn the car and understand how its going work for him down the track. Anyone here can help him go faster.

But I'll be the bigger guy and say my bad, I see only what your sig says and heck im not digging into your 300+ post about what you know or exp.

I've raced or been apart of racing these transmissions long enough to know what will help, what will hurt, and what he WILL break. Everyone has different experiences and that is what makes the forum great so if he is ready for the next level once he does his repairs and upgrades then we can get into more indepth subjects.

Like said PM box is open for anyone who wants to use it.

-Aaron

i still fail to see any advice given from you. just ego driven ramblings from you. gotta love experts with 12 second cars.



i know him personally and talk to him outside of this board, so once again you keep making assumptions without knowing him, me, his car or any other information.

But I'll be the bigger guy and say my bad, I see only what your sig says and heck im not digging into your 300+ post about what you know or exp.



that was where i had my problem.

Well then there is nothing that can be done. You'd rather rant on a open forum instead of being a man. But being 26 I would expect you need to grow up.

Too bad.

Problem with most think ET's = Knowledge and seen too many idiots think they know why they are fast.

Their is no ego here. Just facts. No one has to listen to my advice. They can go on breaking parts and going slower then what the car is capable of. It won't hurt me one bit.

But I am done with you. You offer even less.

Like said earlier, anyone here is welcome to PM with any questions. I have helped a few and on this site knowledgeable people are few and far between.

Well then there is nothing that can be done. You'd rather rant on a open forum instead of being a man. But being 26 I would expect you need to grow up.

Too bad.

Problem with most think ET's = Knowledge and seen too many idiots think they know why they are fast.

Their is no ego here. Just facts. No one has to listen to my advice. They can go on breaking parts and going slower then what the car is capable of. It won't hurt me one bit.

But I am done with you. You offer even less.



and i'll resolve it in the open, like a man. you said you were in the wrong and that was all i had an issue with.


what advice have you given?

Wohhh i havent looked at this thread in a while lol. I can see some shit went down haha.