Drag Racing Results - 3.73 and FRA Mod track gains
GtoSpd
03-11-2012, 12:21 PM
Best pass before on 3.23s and mods in my sig was 12.4 at 110.9 on a 1.89 60'.
So far today with no cool down and bouncing off the rev limiter, the car has gone 12.24 at 114.1 mph, still 1.89 60'. Only changes were going from 3.23 to 3.73 and FRA mod.
joelster
03-11-2012, 12:33 PM
That car has 11's in it easy! I was running 11.7's at 114 way back when. You have the power, just get some better tires. I'd get a set of drag wheels and run a Hoosier QTP in 26x 10.50x 15. Nice soft sidewall, and a ton of grip.
Doug G
03-11-2012, 12:52 PM
If not spinning (skews the MPH) and is 114 mph....11's easy once you get the 60's down.
GtoSpd
03-11-2012, 01:50 PM
Its pulling consistent 1.8 60s rolling into it quick. If the sombich would hit 3rd just once without crawling all over the rev limiter, I'd be surprised if it didnt run 1-2 tenths quicker as it sits.
joelster
03-11-2012, 01:57 PM
Go update your sig!
GtoSpd
03-11-2012, 02:10 PM
Done! :D
Jarred Hodges
03-11-2012, 07:34 PM
awesome running car, is the car still on the stock converter
GtoSpd
03-11-2012, 08:48 PM
awesome running car, is the car still on the stock converter
Still has the stock one. Wouldn't take a big stall at all to hit 11s, I don't think.
irocurpony8489
03-11-2012, 09:01 PM
Still has the stock one. Wouldn't take a big stall at all to hit 11s, I don't think.
time for a 4000 stall and a few other bolt ons and you probaly will need a cage for that beast!
z28241
03-11-2012, 09:02 PM
U gotta get ur trans retuned due to the gear change
GtoSpd
03-11-2012, 09:05 PM
Going Friday to calibrate the speedo. It was hitting the limiter before the gears, so I'm hoping he just tuned the shift points too close to the rev limiter and that backing it off some will fix the issue.
z28241
03-11-2012, 09:08 PM
okay good, should at least invest in a TransGo HD2 shift kit and a trans cooler since u've been racing alot..my .02..BTW what track r u running at? the DA must b incredible!
GtoSpd
03-11-2012, 09:18 PM
okay good, should at least invest in a TransGo HD2 shift kit and a trans cooler since u've been racing alot..my .02..BTW what track r u running at? the DA must b incredible!
Got the trans cooler, just need to install it. Want to either get the transgo or just build the whole trans and stall it while I'm in there.
I was running in Fayetteville, NC. It was about 65 degrees, not sure what the DA was though. I'm thinking 0-500', but I'll find out for sure.
z28241
03-11-2012, 09:34 PM
Was this last nite?!, i checked a few times posted on drag times DA calculator and around 6-7pm, around minus yes MINUS 1000+ DA!@ 8 something PM it was -13XX!, thats freakn awesome DA!!, Very rare up here:argh: congrads!!!!
jsteele90
03-11-2012, 09:40 PM
Damn i would kill for -1000 DA
z28241
03-11-2012, 09:51 PM
^^^Time for a road trip and a trailer!
projectX
03-11-2012, 10:08 PM
Damn good times!
GtoSpd
03-12-2012, 03:59 AM
-1000 sounds about right this time of year. The actual elevation is only 300' ASL, so it really isn't uncommon to get negative DA in the winter, Fall, and spring. The summers around here are a different ballgame though, lol. It gets very humid and kills ETs. Its crazy how much difference a couple thousand feet make.
Doug G
03-12-2012, 04:39 AM
There is an App for Droid "Drag Racing Workbench" where you can see up to date and past DA along with some decent calculators. Check it out :D
Here it is...See what you think ??? (http://www.androidblip.com/android-apps/drag-racing-workbench-279970.html)
moge11
03-13-2012, 10:00 AM
AWESOME!!! i knew the FRA mod would wake that beast up!!
GtoSpd
03-13-2012, 08:26 PM
I can definitely feel the FRA mod as the speed increased. The gears made a big difference too. I'm crossing the 1/4 well into 3rd Vs at a pretty low RPM with the 3.23s. GM really should've just put 3.73s in these cars from the factory, imo. The headers have actually been the least effective mod yet. I gained 1 mph and 1 tenth from them and the ORY. Only worth it due to the fact that I bought OBX headers and installed them myself.
1Bad97WS-6
03-13-2012, 09:04 PM
nice time need top get it tuned for it won't hit the limiter. They say every 1 time you hit the limiter is 1 tenth.
GtoSpd
03-13-2012, 10:00 PM
nice time need top get it tuned for it won't hit the limiter. They say every 1 time you hit the limiter is 1 tenth.
Whoa! Never heard that, but I can def believe it. I'm going to see my tuner Friday to back it off some. I'd be happy with a 12 flat. It bounced off the limiter 2-3 times before shifting into 3rd.
LS1rob00
03-14-2012, 01:03 AM
Nice times, your car runs good. That negative 1000 DA is awesome too.
I'm surprised to hear headers were your least effective mod. I gained 3mph on average with LT's/ORY...
GtoSpd
03-14-2012, 04:11 AM
Thanks Rob. It went from 12.54/110 to 12.42/111.5 with the headers. Could be some variable I'm missing. The DA was the same and the runs pretty consistent. My car was already tuned, so that maybe why mine showed less gain. I think most people do headers and a tune at the same time and then post their results.
moge11
03-14-2012, 07:56 AM
you didnt gain as much from the headers because you werent gettin enough air in yet... Had you already done the FRA, you would've gained a lot more from the headers... Which is why you gained sooo much from the FRA..Cuz you already had the headers
GtoSpd
03-14-2012, 08:13 AM
Makes sense, Moge. Damn glad you guys pushed me to do that mod, lol.
moge11
03-14-2012, 08:26 AM
dude, i KNEW it would help you a ton!! it helped me more than lid, and MAF&T/B porting combined...and you have exhaust and tune, so i can only imagine what it felt like in your car
GtoSpd
03-14-2012, 09:59 AM
It was very noticeable as the speeds increased. At first I was thinking it had to be my imagination, but the slips don't lie, lol!
moge11
03-14-2012, 11:38 AM
It was very noticeable as the speeds increased. At first I was thinking it had to be my imagination, but the slips don't lie, lol!
i thought the same thing.. but it just seemed to get faster and faster over a 2 week period as the computer learned what was goin on....then the track showed it as well... gotta love it.. cheap and easy just the way i like it! lol
1Bad97WS-6
03-14-2012, 05:51 PM
Ya I have had like 3people tell me that about hitting the limiter. I wonder if I should run mine again before I add my 4000 stall/373/knock sensors.For I can see how much the LT's/ORY helped me..
GtoSpd
03-14-2012, 07:04 PM
I would man, just to see. Just make sure the DA is pretty close from trip to trip.
moge11
03-15-2012, 12:04 PM
Your car runs AWESOME!!... and all i got to say is, I finally got me a good job again, and I plan to catch or surpass you with STOCK exhaust all the way through!..... thats my goal anyway.. we'll see.... :devil:
GtoSpd
03-15-2012, 03:50 PM
Shift problem RESOLVED! Had my tuner make a couple adjustments and now she hits 3rd right on time and with plenty of pressure. Really curious if that shift will drop another 1-2 tenths. IMO, it will.
Moge, you can definitely beat my ET with the right key mods. The right cam, stall or gear, a good tune, and tire...you should walk right on past me.
1Bad97WS-6
03-16-2012, 12:23 AM
I would man, just to see. Just make sure the DA is pretty close from trip to trip.
Ok I might try it this weekend and I'll let you know how it goes. I gotta check to see what the DA was on my PB..
828 feet above sea level was the DA..
Kingc8r
03-16-2012, 01:01 AM
Those are damn good times. I always knew my 12.87 could be improved with a tune. I never got the chance to do that though. I'm interested to hear your results after having the tune adjusted...
GtoSpd
03-16-2012, 07:40 PM
Ok I might try it this weekend and I'll let you know how it goes. I gotta check to see what the DA was on my PB..
828 feet above sea level was the DA..
Definitely update with the results. Good luck man!
Those are damn good times. I always knew my 12.87 could be improved with a tune. I never got the chance to do that though. I'm interested to hear your results after having the tune adjusted...
Thanks King! The tune is where its at man. There's definitely a good bit left in your car for sure.
I may run it this weekend, not sure. It looks like the temps are going to be a lot warmer this weekend, so I may wait for a cooler day. But, I'm thinking about going ahead and pulling the front sway bar and passenger seat, and shooting for an 11.99 when I do run next time. It's a long shot, but possible IMHO.
moge11
03-17-2012, 08:51 AM
you'll get it
GtoSpd
03-17-2012, 05:00 PM
Appreciate it, Moge!
moge11
03-18-2012, 10:02 AM
114mph with wheels and tires, and a converter, I think you got 11.70's........Curious as to what you think a tune would gain me??
1Bad97WS-6
03-18-2012, 10:15 AM
114mph with wheels and tires, and a converter, I think you got 11.70's........Curious as to what you think a tune would gain me??
I have heard a tune will gain you another 15 HP..
moge11
03-18-2012, 10:20 AM
ive heard that too. but im wanna know if how much mph its actually worth in the 1/8 and how much ET ill actually gain.. Hell 15hp might give me 2.2 mph possibly...curious if in same conditions as my 85.55mph if it'll maybe break 88mph
GtoSpd
03-18-2012, 10:35 AM
I've gained anywhere from 15-20 HP. My TBSS actually gained 25, but it's not really just the HP gains that helps so much, at least with the A4s anyway. Adjusting the shift pressure, lowering torque Management, shift points, etc, are worth tons. A half second gain on the big end from a good tune is about average as long as the driver does their part. 1/8th mile gains should reflect 2-3 tenths. As for traps, every car is different, but I personally gained 3-4 mph. Of course DA, supporting mods, gearing, etc will factor into all this.
moge11
03-18-2012, 11:08 AM
I've gained anywhere from 15-20 HP. My TBSS actually gained 25, but it's not really just the HP gains that helps so much, at least with the A4s anyway. Adjusting the shift pressure, lowering torque Management, shift points, etc, are worth tons. A half second gain on the big end from a good tune is about average as long as the driver does their part. 1/8th mile gains should reflect 2-3 tenths. As for traps, every car is different, but I personally gained 3-4 mph. Of course DA, supporting mods, gearing, etc will factor into all this.
thats what i wanted to know/hear... good deal.. if i can get close to 89mph without touching anything that would be AMAZING! and do it with the LS1 intake too! then break 90mph and 7's with LS6 intake
GtoSpd
03-18-2012, 11:14 AM
thats what i wanted to know/hear... good deal.. if i can get close to 89mph without touching anything that would be AMAZING! and do it with the LS1 intake too! then break 90mph and 7's with LS6 intake
I have no doubts you will get close with just a tune. Needs to be a good dyno or street tune though, not a canned one. The LS6 intake would definitely put you where you want to be, in the 7s.
You planning on LTs at some point?
moge11
03-18-2012, 09:45 PM
I have no doubts you will get close with just a tune. Needs to be a good dyno or street tune though, not a canned one. The LS6 intake would definitely put you where you want to be, in the 7s.
You planning on LTs at some point?
dont wanna touch the exhaust.....it keeps me outta trouble round hurr
GtoSpd
03-18-2012, 10:23 PM
C'mon man, at least throw a cat-back on her!! :D
moge11
03-18-2012, 10:32 PM
C'mon man, at least throw a cat-back on her!! :D
I'd do LT's and Y before a catback.... ive got WAAAAAAAAAAYYYY to bad a rep since i was 13 with my dirtbikes to have exhaust on this beast
GtoSpd
03-18-2012, 10:43 PM
Just don't be raising a bunch of hell and you'll be fine. I have full cat-less exhaust, and it really isn't that loud unless I go WOT. With just the SLP LM2, it was actually pretty subtle imo. All that is subjective though, lol ;)
moge11
03-18-2012, 10:59 PM
Just don't be raising a bunch of hell and you'll be fine. I have full cat-less exhaust, and it really isn't that loud unless I go WOT. With just the SLP LM2, it was actually pretty subtle imo. All that is subjective though, lol ;)
ohh im not UNfamiliar with how they sound or how loud they are... its just i got a public nuisance violation warning just for STARTING and workin on my ZX-11 kawasaki with a gutted Muzzy exhaust.. I got a BITCH neighbor! and its always fun to get it for the kids every now and again lol.. IM not in it for sound just sheer horsepower! ill do LTs and cutout before a catback for sure. but i really want to just do a truck manifold kit with a BW s475 on the cheap
moge11
03-19-2012, 08:51 AM
Hey Gtospd, you got any video action?? ive seen one or two i thought.. where they at??
S8ER95Z
03-20-2012, 11:01 AM
dont wanna touch the exhaust.....it keeps me outta trouble round hurr
Just go LTs and keep the stock catback... sounds pretty good and won't piss the neighbors off. Gets loud WOT but normal driving is stupid quiet. :)
Awesome times Stone! Get those 11s!!!!!
GtoSpd
03-20-2012, 11:49 AM
Thanks Skater, the second the weather breaks and cools off, I'm going to try like hell to make that 11.9999 happen!
Moge, I've got a couple good vids of it running 12.4s. I've got the 12.2 run as well, its an in-car vid shot with my cell phone. The angle is awesome, but its way out of focus after uploading for some reason. Search Steppnstone629 on youtube and it should pull up my vids. I'll post a couple up when I get home from work later.