Fueling & Injection - E-Bay double pumper vs Lonnies Performance?




I8UR4RD
03-14-2012, 09:43 PM
I just found this double pumper on ebay, and other than the hobbs switch, and the brand of pump itself, I am at a loss as to why I should pay the extra money for Lonnies system, vs pulling mine with the racetronix in the housing and just selling it to put towards this system. Any input or experience is greatly appreciated. I have a d1sc 390 ws6 that im going to push as far as I can. hopefully the 60lb injectors will get me to the 750 range, but I am doubtful....My fuel knowledge is not my strongsuit.

Here is the Link

Edit: non-sponsor link removed


gi8e7oi825
03-15-2012, 07:20 AM
Not bad for no core required. I don't trust eBay though... some idiot sent me parts other than what was pictured so I said never again! :mad: Also, I'd want more pictures. I already know what the top of the fuel thing with bulkhead fittings looks like. Everyone has pics of those. Further, all stock functions are retained, except they didn't mention the re-filling of the bucket?

Meemperor
03-15-2012, 07:40 AM
That wiring really doesn't look sufficient!

I would stick with forum sponsor and trusted guy when building fuel set up.


Ollie8974
03-15-2012, 07:42 AM
Anyone who would butcher a bucket like that, doesn't know what they are doing.
The replacement parts are available with a little research on this forum. Start by reading the sticky s at the top of this forum

I8UR4RD
03-15-2012, 01:16 PM
oh i have no doubt that lonnies products is top notch, but what I am asking, is what is the differnece. When you say butcher, what is it that you are reffering to? I see no gauges or open holes. The wiring harness to me does not look that much different than my racetronix hotwire/relay minus the wiring loom. I was just able to navigate this website alot better than LP. Basically I want the whole package, fuel lines, fp regulator, and a double pumper system to support my goals.

eb02z06
03-15-2012, 02:33 PM
This is your fuel system-a place you don't want to cut any corners. Save now-pay alot more later when you blow up-not worth it.

Lonnies all the way for me.

Mr. Fuel Pump
03-15-2012, 06:28 PM
The high flow fuel unit will include $15/ roller vane fuel pumps from 'Asia', whereas the Lonnies unit will have $100/ pumps made in USA

Lonnies Performance
03-15-2012, 07:35 PM
I only use high grade components in my systems & use only factory type OE connections through the fuel sender.

I only use Walbro pumps which have proven themselves & which I trust my reputation to.

I have built approximatley 2000 DP kits to date & as those on this site can attest to, problems with my systems have been virtually non-existant.

My customers also get my tech support & knowledge of what a proper fuel system needs. I back up my knowledge with a Mechanical Engineering Education, 30+ years of building performance cars & my performance business that has been around since 1999.

I do not sell on Ebay, nor do I have automated ordering as I want to talk to my customers & be sure they are getting the sytem that they actually need. I will not sell you something that is not correct for your application. I would rather turn down a sale than take your money for an improper part. This way I can stand by my components & also maintain a good reputation on the internet, which as most here know, will ruin a business in spectacular fashion when people are not satisfied with their purchases.

RsSean
03-15-2012, 08:20 PM
+1 for Lonnies Performance, don't cheap out on a fuel system. Just call Lonnie he can get you want, use GM style weather pack connectors. Customer service is top notch, not one complaint out of his system.

gs462
03-15-2012, 08:25 PM
Lonnie do you offer a pump that is a direct replacement ?id rather not drill or cut anything. just want an upgraded plug and play pump. Motor should make between 550-600 hp.

MeentSS02
03-15-2012, 08:28 PM
Why go with Lonnies? Customer service, plain and simple. He stands behind what he sells 100%...that's a lot more than I can say for some other companies, and Ebay? I don't think so.

After all, it is only the system that feeds highly flammable liquid to an expensive pile of aluminum and steel that won't run without it.

I8UR4RD
03-15-2012, 09:48 PM
yeah i talked with lonnie and hfp both today. hfp basically said lonnie was way better. they said there kits work, but they use alot of local companies to make there parts and deal mainly with the mustang crowd...the big difference is that lonnies system is mainly plug and play. its so simple. and there system requires alot of your own wiring and additions of hobb switches etc....i was always going to go lonnies, but i thought it would be a great discussion for someone who saw the cheaper kit and did not know what to look for like myself. i am not cheaping out....20k on motor and blower and then get cheap when it comes to the one component that can ruin that investment.....i think not. thanks guys. great answers.

eb02z06
03-15-2012, 11:29 PM
yeah i talked with lonnie and hfp both today. hfp basically said lonnie was way better. they said there kits work, but they use alot of local companies to make there parts and deal mainly with the mustang crowd...the big difference is that lonnies system is mainly plug and play. its so simple. and there system requires alot of your own wiring and additions of hobb switches etc....i was always going to go lonnies, but i thought it would be a great discussion for someone who saw the cheaper kit and did not know what to look for like myself. i am not cheaping out....20k on motor and blower and then get cheap when it comes to the one component that can ruin that investment.....i think not. thanks guys. great answers.

Good deal buddy-now go make some JAM!!!!!

allout06
03-16-2012, 07:42 AM
Save money all together and do your own double pumper setup joey.

Ollie8974
03-17-2012, 08:28 AM
Lonnie do you offer a pump that is a direct replacement ?id rather not drill or cut anything. just want an upgraded plug and play pump. Motor should make between 550-600 hp.

Yes, all of Lonnies kit are direct replacement for your application.

Lonnies Performance
03-17-2012, 09:01 AM
For 550-600 engine HP, I offer single pump kits that are drop in replacements for many applications. Above this power level is where the dual pump kits are needed.

Feel free to call if you want to discuss.

ICRAZY6
03-23-2012, 07:56 AM
Lonnis is building my fuel system right now. I'm also doing an AES 390 with a D1SC and Lonnie helped me to understand that I'll need lines and FPR to do it right the first time. I decided to go ahead and get the entire kit from him and just sell the items that I'm currently running on my NA motor.

I8UR4RD
04-21-2012, 03:02 PM
Lonnis is building my fuel system right now. I'm also doing an AES 390 with a D1SC and Lonnie helped me to understand that I'll need lines and FPR to do it right the first time. I decided to go ahead and get the entire kit from him and just sell the items that I'm currently running on my NA motor.



yeah we are doing damn near the exact same setup, other than my heads are going to be PRC 237cc with 68's. My compression ratio is going to be set at 9:6:1 as Bob recommended. E85 and methanol to boot. Wanting to go F1-A or C one day. Right now I am looking into bigger injectors....got my quote from MWC on a full suspension setup and fab 9....lonnies fuel fuel system other than injectors.....and FLT or PerformaBuilt stage 5-6 4l65e with 3600 PTC and Goodyear Slicks. Lingenfelter 2-step and No Trans Brake. its real exciting but really slow paced. check to check you know. about one component I listed per month. I am lucky I can even move at that rate.

tta656
08-12-2012, 09:25 AM
G-Body guy with a LS heart----

not understanding why this system of yours costs $1k or am i wrong

I see you use Racetronix in your banner,i have been dealing with them for many yrs as a gn owner(pretty sure they started there as a vendor)

tell me why yours cost more then this and is your better

http://www.racetronix.biz/customkititems.asp?kc=DPFS-G7&eq=

thanks D

Lonnies Performance
08-12-2012, 08:32 PM
G-Body guy with a LS heart----

not understanding why this system of yours costs $1k or am i wrong

I see you use Racetronix in your banner,i have been dealing with them for many yrs as a gn owner(pretty sure they started there as a vendor)

tell me why yours cost more then this and is your better

http://www.racetronix.biz/customkititems.asp?kc=DPFS-G7&eq=

thanks D

I only use genuine Walbro pumps.

All wiring & components are custom made by Racetronix specifically for dual pump use.

As for $1K cost, you are looking at braided line kits.
The cost of good components adds up. I do not use pushlock fittings or any other rubber based hose, only stainless braided lines.

Most of my common double pump kits are in the $575-$700 range.

Not trying to be the cheapest, as I select quality components.
If you want cheap go to Ebay or build it yourself.
I feel I offer a good product for the money.

Also, I answer the phone if you have questions or problems... even on weekends.
If there is a legitimate problem, I stand behind my work & fix it.

I have a few thousand satisfied customers... not sure what else to add.

I8UR4RD
08-16-2012, 05:52 PM
FYI I have a lonnies twin Aeromotive Stealth 340, with a new sending unit and SSB lines, Boost Ref Pressure Regulator, hotwire, being sent to me really soon. all i will need after I get it in is an e85 fuel filter which apparently was on backorder when chris ordered it.

This is accompanied by a set of FIC 2000's. Or 200lb injectors.

Noone is doing a better fuel setup than him. And he even offers service after the sale which is often times missing for any saleman.

we have some great sponsors on this site and lonnies is one of them.

Racetronix
08-16-2012, 05:59 PM
FYI I have a lonnies twin Aeromotive Stealth 340, with a new sending unit and SSB lines, Boost Ref Pressure Regulator, hotwire, being sent to me really soon.

Noone is doing a better fuel setup than him. And he even offers service after the sale which is often times missing for any saleman.

we have some great sponsors on this site and lonnies is one of them.

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