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Old 03-20-2012, 07:16 AM
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i have a lifter ticking and since im pulling the heads i will be adding cam and 5.3 heads wanted to know what would be the BEST cam to run with stock converter? I dont want to get a stall i love the way the car drives now and i just want a little more sound and umph from it. Car is stock with longtubes on the way spray and minor bolt ons. Thanks
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Think small. Very, very small. Call Texas Speed, see what they recommend... Maybe the 220R?

The stock converter is going to be very limiting.
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Was thinking about the gt2-3 seems pretty tame
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I wouldnt even bother doing a cam w/stock verter. Not worth it IMO.
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Have you driven a car with an aftermarket converter? A small increase in slip to like a 2600-3200 doesn't hurt drivability IMO. Above that size to me is a little loose for a DD, but there are people that are perfectly happy with a 3600. The vast majority of opinions on the board are don't change the cam without the converter. If you like the way it drives now, you probably won't after a cam swap without the converter. The cam you have I'm assuming is a 98 LS1? It is actually larger than some of the later LS1 cams, so I would leave it alone, it is a great match for the stock converter. Based upon personal experience, swap the converter, it is the best mod ever for an A4 car. It feels like you just added 50 cubic inches to your engine.
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Look around and thinking of going 3200 revmax with the gt2-3
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LS6 cam...I had a hotcam 219/228 .525/.525 112 lsa once in my old car with stock converter and boltons, and it was still just a hair too big for the stock tight *** converter. I say get a converter first...it will make a bigger difference than a cam with no converter.
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First hand, I just put a 228R in with no converter (Yank 3600 On Order) and car is total junk on stock convertor, almost undrivable, can't get that converter in there fast enough.
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I am a M6 racer, So what does the car do and act like? Have a buddy that has my old hotcam but he as stock converter.
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Anything bigger than the ls6 cam will need a converter to be worth doing and I would only do a ls6 cam if the engine had to come apart anyway for something.

Cam and no converter is just pissing into the wind. Been there, done that.
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Originally Posted by Zmg00camaross
I am a M6 racer, So what does the car do and act like? Have a buddy that has my old hotcam but he as stock converter.
Bad driveability. Trying to push through the brakes if you up the idle speed, Trying to stall at lights if you don't, Ect.

Not to mention the car would be a complete roach.
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I did a converter and intake headers run 12.32 on stock internals you could run a mid to high 12's with a SS3600 only for less money with out hurting daily drivibility.
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Originally Posted by c0ncEpT
Bad driveability. Trying to push through the brakes if you up the idle speed, Trying to stall at lights if you don't, Ect.

Not to mention the car would be a complete roach.
This!!!!! It also wants to surge going down the road at 45 if you are in "D" manual shifting the tranny to keep the revs up helps but who wants to do that. Even on the stock cam, my car would want to push through the brakes a bit.
My Cam is designed to come into the powerband around 1700-1800 so the car is still quicker I would guess than stock, but the pushing through brakes and dying at lights (if you don't raise the idle) is a deal breaker, it is no fun.
I have my idle in park set at around 750-775, in gear the car drops down to about 650 or so with the brakes mashed, it will still run, but wants to die the longer you sit there, and with the AC on it's even worse.
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I drove a 228/232 cam on a stock converter for about a year before I finally put in a 3200 stall. It idles and runs ok if you have a decent tune, the worst thing about it was the way it pulled on the brakes at a stop. Its much better with a stall, but it can be done.
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GT2-3 would be excellent on spray...plus it can use cheap springs.
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I have a 3200 and it is awesome to drive on the street... locks up at around 40mph if youre easy on it... wont roll away from stop signs and takes a little bit more throttle to take off but you get used to that real quick... I love my revmax converter.. I would have gone 3400 but this was my first one so I didnt want to over do it... You are going to hate driving your cammed/no stall car... My buddy did it for a while and it died/stalled on him constantly. Kicking it into neutral at every stop light, then putting it into drive 50 times a day was a real pain in the ***...
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Originally Posted by mike171562
I drove a 228/232 cam on a stock converter for about a year before I finally put in a 3200 stall. It idles and runs ok if you have a decent tune, the worst thing about it was the way it pulled on the brakes at a stop. Its much better with a stall, but it can be done.
I did the same with a 230/224 reverse split. Not much fun. Was hell on brake pads, hard to drive, slow as ***** from a stop, and died coming to intersections unless I put it in N and coasted to a stop.

Car only ran 8.6-8.7 in the 1/8th mile at 86mph that way (everything but a pulley and stall). I put a ss3600 in it and it ran 7.89@87mph. Reworked the tune some and got 7.77@89mph.

60ft went from 2.0 on street tires not spinning to 1.79 with a little spin on Nitto 555R.
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I would try the GM Hot Cam or maybe a LS-6 Cam !
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If u want it to have that lope then pull a plug wire... don't do a cam swap until you get a stall
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On a side not I hope you're not installing stock 5.3 heads? If so you'll be making less power than with stock heads. If the heads are "799" heads from a newer 5.3, then ok. But the older 5.3 heads that the cores are used for port work by the sponsors are not better than stock heads without porting and increasing the valve size.


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