about to attempt C6/6.0 turbo kit, what do you think
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about to attempt C6/6.0 turbo kit, what do you think
friend and i are about to start putting together a front mount turbo kit using C6 manifold and 6.0 truck mani and keep the ac, this is the plan of parts im thinkin of going with and what im using, let me know what yall think or any suggestions
BMR turbo Kmember
CBR performance alternator relocation kit
340lph pump with ether 60LB or 80LB injectors
C6 manifold with flange and gasket kit
6.0 manifold with flange and gasket kit
-4 oil feed line from the mount above the oil filter
-10 drain line, into timing cover or oil pan
2.5 inch mandrel bent U bends from summit, 3-4
31x11.75x3in intercooler with 2.5in inlet/outlet
2.5in intercooler piping probably routed same way as Killer-ls1 did in his "how to DIY truck manifold" thread
T4 flange and gasket
for running 6-8psi stock block, then maybe 10psi with 317 heads in the future, would that be the correct size fuel pump and would i be better off with 60 or 80LB injectors
is -4 oil line for feed going to hurt anything/be to much oil and should i use -3? or is it fine, i have a feed fitting with restrictor in it
the above is all stuff im planning on getting, haven't quite decided on waste gate or BOV yet, any one got any suggestions on ether that arnt crazy expensive but good quality ones, and were to get them other the ebay for cheapies let me know
things i already have layin around and what made me start thinking of doing this are
MP T76 turbo 1.00 AR
AEM A/F gauge, in car
Boost gauge, in car
boost controller
basically combing a couple users diff ways of how they ran there and see what works out best.
my plan on how im going to go about this, as this is on my DD, do the Kmember and alternator kit, get car back on the road and aligned, get that all straight and working, then do the radiator stand up and fans next, get car driving again, then order in all the piping and manifolds and rest of stuff and then start that, keep minimum amount of down time on it, have a spare vehicle but its my trail truck so lol
for the radiator im gunna try to keep stock rad and just lower an inch or so and stand it up and forward, then reuse my stock fans reconfigured onto the front of it and then just reverse the wires around to turn them into pushers, will this work? if so will it work well enough to be used? would i be better off using the griffin radiator everyone uses (P/N GRI-1-25241-X) and using my stock fans on that? any one have pusher fans they've used that they havnt had over heating problems? any suggestions are appreciated
most the links i got my ideas from and how im goin about this, not stealing anyones ideas just borrowing
https://ls1tech.com/forums/forced-in...turbo-kit.html
https://ls1tech.com/forums/forced-in...manifolds.html
https://ls1tech.com/forums/forced-in...ld-w-pics.html
thanks guys!
BMR turbo Kmember
CBR performance alternator relocation kit
340lph pump with ether 60LB or 80LB injectors
C6 manifold with flange and gasket kit
6.0 manifold with flange and gasket kit
-4 oil feed line from the mount above the oil filter
-10 drain line, into timing cover or oil pan
2.5 inch mandrel bent U bends from summit, 3-4
31x11.75x3in intercooler with 2.5in inlet/outlet
2.5in intercooler piping probably routed same way as Killer-ls1 did in his "how to DIY truck manifold" thread
T4 flange and gasket
for running 6-8psi stock block, then maybe 10psi with 317 heads in the future, would that be the correct size fuel pump and would i be better off with 60 or 80LB injectors
is -4 oil line for feed going to hurt anything/be to much oil and should i use -3? or is it fine, i have a feed fitting with restrictor in it
the above is all stuff im planning on getting, haven't quite decided on waste gate or BOV yet, any one got any suggestions on ether that arnt crazy expensive but good quality ones, and were to get them other the ebay for cheapies let me know
things i already have layin around and what made me start thinking of doing this are
MP T76 turbo 1.00 AR
AEM A/F gauge, in car
Boost gauge, in car
boost controller
basically combing a couple users diff ways of how they ran there and see what works out best.
my plan on how im going to go about this, as this is on my DD, do the Kmember and alternator kit, get car back on the road and aligned, get that all straight and working, then do the radiator stand up and fans next, get car driving again, then order in all the piping and manifolds and rest of stuff and then start that, keep minimum amount of down time on it, have a spare vehicle but its my trail truck so lol
for the radiator im gunna try to keep stock rad and just lower an inch or so and stand it up and forward, then reuse my stock fans reconfigured onto the front of it and then just reverse the wires around to turn them into pushers, will this work? if so will it work well enough to be used? would i be better off using the griffin radiator everyone uses (P/N GRI-1-25241-X) and using my stock fans on that? any one have pusher fans they've used that they havnt had over heating problems? any suggestions are appreciated
most the links i got my ideas from and how im goin about this, not stealing anyones ideas just borrowing
https://ls1tech.com/forums/forced-in...turbo-kit.html
https://ls1tech.com/forums/forced-in...manifolds.html
https://ls1tech.com/forums/forced-in...ld-w-pics.html
thanks guys!
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I plan on takin some pics as i go along, keep a price tag on everything i buy and see how it comes out, looks like ill be able to keep it around $2k, i already have the turbo and guages which helps me save $$ but, will see lol
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Having done a very similar build...I think it will be highly unlikely you will be able to use your car as a daily driver during the build process.
There are a LOT of little time consuming things you're overlooking in your list, and you're making the assumption you do everything properly and/or everything works on the first try.
I don't think you'll have rooms to put the stock fans in front of the radiator - there isn't a whole lot of space up there as it is, and you will be stuffing an intercooler up front too. That's assuming you can even reverse polarity on the stock fans and the blades push the right direction (I don't know).
Keep in mind, if you're keeping the AC and you change the angle or location of the radiator\condenser in any way, you will have to account for the changes in the HVAC components.
There are a LOT of little time consuming things you're overlooking in your list, and you're making the assumption you do everything properly and/or everything works on the first try.
I don't think you'll have rooms to put the stock fans in front of the radiator - there isn't a whole lot of space up there as it is, and you will be stuffing an intercooler up front too. That's assuming you can even reverse polarity on the stock fans and the blades push the right direction (I don't know).
Keep in mind, if you're keeping the AC and you change the angle or location of the radiator\condenser in any way, you will have to account for the changes in the HVAC components.
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Having done a very similar build...I think it will be highly unlikely you will be able to use your car as a daily driver during the build process.
There are a LOT of little time consuming things you're overlooking in your list, and you're making the assumption you do everything properly and/or everything works on the first try.
I don't think you'll have rooms to put the stock fans in front of the radiator - there isn't a whole lot of space up there as it is, and you will be stuffing an intercooler up front too. That's assuming you can even reverse polarity on the stock fans and the blades push the right direction (I don't know).
Keep in mind, if you're keeping the AC and you change the angle or location of the radiator\condenser in any way, you will have to account for the changes in the HVAC components.
There are a LOT of little time consuming things you're overlooking in your list, and you're making the assumption you do everything properly and/or everything works on the first try.
I don't think you'll have rooms to put the stock fans in front of the radiator - there isn't a whole lot of space up there as it is, and you will be stuffing an intercooler up front too. That's assuming you can even reverse polarity on the stock fans and the blades push the right direction (I don't know).
Keep in mind, if you're keeping the AC and you change the angle or location of the radiator\condenser in any way, you will have to account for the changes in the HVAC components.
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Where are you located? I have a c6 6.0 manifold setup. Your number one issue is going to be cooling with the ac on in the city. I just finished a modified ac line today so ill have a chance to test out my griffen radiTor/saab puller fan setup. Look out for a thread if it works.
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I know it probably wont be a problem free install on anything (though i wish lol) and i dont NEED the car as my dd, if do the kmember and plan on it taking a weekend and it takes a week in a half thats fine, i have my truck to drive, just also doing that as steps too get on thing done, it works cool, next thing done cool it works. Im plan on it probably being undriveable 90% of this whole build, just few test drives here and there after each step make sure things work as should
And any one have a set of pusher fans theyve used on the griffon rad and havnt had to much over heating problems or any?
do apprtiate the input and concern though!
Im located in Newport News VA
And any one have a set of pusher fans theyve used on the griffon rad and havnt had to much over heating problems or any?
do apprtiate the input and concern though!
Im located in Newport News VA
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if u were to guess ur oil restrictor hole size would u say like a 1/16th ish? and ill probably go with -3 then, ive had oil issues in the past
and were did u get those fans at? if u have the exact type (expample, 12 inch XXCFM pusher model XXX) or a link or website id appreciate it alot!
i was gunna experiment a little with the stock rad and fans since that wont be wasting $$ but if its tried and tested and ur setup works, let me know lol
thanks guys! im excited to do this, probably order kmember and alternator kit next week! and get going on it, deff gunna try to remember to get lots of pics of before and after and how it went in fun lol
and were did u get those fans at? if u have the exact type (expample, 12 inch XXCFM pusher model XXX) or a link or website id appreciate it alot!
i was gunna experiment a little with the stock rad and fans since that wont be wasting $$ but if its tried and tested and ur setup works, let me know lol
thanks guys! im excited to do this, probably order kmember and alternator kit next week! and get going on it, deff gunna try to remember to get lots of pics of before and after and how it went in fun lol
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I heard the 2 bolts arnt the best but, ima see if the welder im under at work can weld cast iron if so ill get some Vbands, also thought, would i be able to weld the 2 bolt stock flanges together and add a Vband a little further down the hot side, not sure though yet. So perfectly clean flanges, im getting 1/2flanges to go to it, will seal up good enough if u just bolt them down good?
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I found some 1/2" c6 flanges that were cnc cut out of mild on ebay and just used ultra copper gasket maker on the flat surfaces. been fine so far.
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well got it done over the weekend and the Kmember is in, just need to head to an alignment shop when i get a chance, heres the pics i got, all and all probably would of takin one day but we fought with the control arm bushings pressing old out new in for almost 2 hrs : \
the BMR instructions were pretty helpful, only thing i did different when following them is i took the AC compressor off as i felt it was way easier taking it and the bracket off then fighting trying to get hte bolts on the engine mount off
just so yall know im not working out of a huge fancy garage with a lift, this is what i had to work with lol
supporting the car and getting ready
comparing the 2 Kmembers, tubular one was way lighter the i was expecting
Kmember in, just need to put everything else back and up were it belongs
all done and ready for alignment shop, deffintly a lot more room under there now
side shot
now just waiting for alternator relocation kit to come in, after doing kmember it would of been easier to do the relocation kit while doing the kmembe cause u already have Alternator out and room to move stuff around
the BMR instructions were pretty helpful, only thing i did different when following them is i took the AC compressor off as i felt it was way easier taking it and the bracket off then fighting trying to get hte bolts on the engine mount off
just so yall know im not working out of a huge fancy garage with a lift, this is what i had to work with lol
supporting the car and getting ready
comparing the 2 Kmembers, tubular one was way lighter the i was expecting
Kmember in, just need to put everything else back and up were it belongs
all done and ready for alignment shop, deffintly a lot more room under there now
side shot
now just waiting for alternator relocation kit to come in, after doing kmember it would of been easier to do the relocation kit while doing the kmembe cause u already have Alternator out and room to move stuff around