View Full Version : ZYBORG C5Z vs SHAKN'04 mach1


ZYBORG
03-26-2012, 01:58 AM
So this race emerged from another thread that we were both in. I made a friendly call out as i had to see this mach for myself after hearing about it and seeing it in action.

2004 cammed and bolt on mach test and tune - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rra-t0C2udA&feature=youtube_gdata_player)

SHAKN'04s Mach1 was a cam, bolt ons and 4'10 gears car, track proven, trapping 119 almost 120mph at the 1/4.


Me with the very infamous intake, full exhaust and tune. Never really track proven but more than a few kills on the street.

Well here is the video of our encounter, it was a 3 honk 40-120 race:

Z06 vs mach 1 - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yrIR1I7YOCk&feature=youtube_gdata_player)

Now here is the kicker/bonus, after our race SHAKN'04 was on his way to slap a eaton blower on! I went and hung out with the guys for a while and got to look at some more bad ass and impressive machs. I promised him a remach after the blower. Thats where this next vid comes in (after the blower install).

This race was a 40-90ish give or take, the mach let off early (a lot of cop activity around) im sure we will get a better race on video later on...

tx2k12 Vette vs mustang - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H4zKDGNtrsE&feature=youtube_gdata_player)

After the blower swap the cars appeared to be a very tight/even run, he is still working out the car and with the blower now he has plenty of room to grow.

All in all it was a great experience got to meet some outstanding guys with sick cars and had lots of fun doing the runs

BayArea ws6
03-26-2012, 02:20 AM
Nice that mach is impressive ! Not too surprised about your car though , lol !

Johnnystock
03-26-2012, 03:11 AM
Poor guy..I dont believe your car has nothing else. Whatever it is, its a bit too fast for what it is. I know its been debated a lot, dont want to start this again..just saying. Maybe I'm just jealous.

Redfire 03
03-26-2012, 03:29 AM
Poor Mach needs a Eaton. lol Nice kill. Your Z rolls out!!

41863nj
03-26-2012, 04:27 AM
glad you're back with us ZYBORG...missed your insane video's..lololol...you're stories and video's are precise and it all comes together...great job...

41863nj
03-26-2012, 04:31 AM
lololol...just re-read REDFIRE 03's comments about needing a blower to compete...i guess for the mustang guy knowing he needs help, it must feel like a penile enhancer...just knowing you need ''help'' just to measure up...lolololol..

GotHemi?
03-26-2012, 05:49 AM
Poor guy..I dont believe your car has nothing else. Whatever it is, its a bit too fast for what it is. I know its been debated a lot, dont want to start this again..just saying. Maybe I'm just jealous.

Im with you on this. Id expect him to pull a 104-107mph (stock) Mach like that but one thats proven 119.9 mph??? IDK that just seemes like a really strong pull out of a basic bolt on C5Z, looked more like a C6Z TBH. LOL

Good footage none the less. Also not saying i dont believe it, just saying its damn hard to believe.

I wanna hear what the Mach sounds like @ idle!!

Killemall
03-26-2012, 07:12 AM
410 gears are great for the drag strip and the first eigth...but on a roll they run outta steam fast.

Zyborgs car hung with a intake only 06 viper side by side. Thats easily a 122 mph car zyborg has.

His is just one of those freaky ones that will hit 115-117 stock. Add on more power and it is what it is.

adamantium
03-26-2012, 07:13 AM
So your Intake exhaust tune c5z walks 119mph trap cars? Interesting.

GotHemi?
03-26-2012, 08:20 AM
410 gears are great for the drag strip and the first eigth...but on a roll they run outta steam fast.

Zyborgs car hung with a intake only 06 viper side by side. Thats easily a 122 mph car zyborg has.

His is just one of those freaky ones that will hit 115-117 stock. Add on more power and it is what it is.

I can see the short gear being the reason for the dragging if they ran em to 140+ but they only went to 120. That was a wayyy harder than a 2mph pull if indeed his car traps 122.

Ive raced a c/i ls2 c6 that traps 125 and he didnt pull me no where near as bad as he pulled that Mach and I trap 118. Heres the video. Take into consideration that he red lighted and got a .300 jump on me.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qfS5827aACc&

HioSSilver
03-26-2012, 08:33 AM
Poor guy..I dont believe your car has nothing else. Whatever it is, its a bit too fast for what it is. I know its been debated a lot, dont want to start this again..just saying. Maybe I'm just jealous.

I'm sure his car is what he says. I'm sure you've seen my sig ;).

Ls6's rock.

GotHemi?
03-26-2012, 08:44 AM
I'm sure his car is what he says. I'm sure you've seen my sig ;).

Ls6's rock.

You bring a good point. His and your car should weigh pretty close and make similiar power. Yours traps 126, from that video that pull looks to be atleast a 126 mph car.

Call me crazy but this is how i look at it. Imagine the mustang being at a stand still when the vette is doing its pull. Now ask yourself how fast does that vette appear to be pulling away. Id say around 10mph. So 120+10=130mph i/e/t c5z??? Thats the definition of a factory freak...

evangto87
03-26-2012, 08:54 AM
ummmmmm....yeaa....

willizm
03-26-2012, 09:20 AM
Ouch! I thought Mach1's were fast?

HioSSilver
03-26-2012, 09:38 AM
You bring a good point. His and your car should weigh pretty close and make similiar power. Yours traps 126, from that video that pull looks to be atleast a 126 mph car.

Call me crazy but this is how i look at it. Imagine the mustang being at a stand still when the vette is doing its pull. Now ask yourself how fast does that vette appear to be pulling away. Id say around 10mph. So 120+10=130mph i/e/t c5z??? Thats the definition of a factory freak...

The way the mach is geared....well mustangs in general really can make them shine at the track but when they get put up against a ls powered car in a situation like this their gearing and rearend strength are no advantage for them. That's a solid pull zyborg has goin but I would say his car would trapp 122-123... On good runs. The last few mph would take some more mods for him.

evangto87
03-26-2012, 09:54 AM
The way the mach is geared....well mustangs in general really can make them shine at the track but when they get put up against a ls powered car in a situation like this their gearing and rearend strength are no advantage for them. That's a solid pull zyborg has goin but I would say his car would trapp 122-123... On good runs. The last few mph would take some more mods for him.

i would agree with u if these runs were done at higher speeds. OP states this was a 40-120. No where in those speeds should that mach be tired if its trapping 119. Id say ops car for what it is and mods done, would do 122-123. Ive just done a lot of racing like this, and thats a strong 8-10mph trap difference. And based off the runs of the mach at the track. its not exactly running efficient to get that mph either considering its running in the 12s. It just seems odd to me thats all. I also cant see how that mach is trapping 119 with exhaust, gear, and cams. Ive seen some strong ass machs in my day NA go down the track. Still never saw one trap that high. Not saying they cant... just not common at all. One guy i knew had a mach with slightly played with heads (slightly), advanced stock cams, 4.88 gears, 28inch slicks, full front and rear race suspension(cradles and all), full exhaust, ewp, port matched intake. Made about 330whp and weighed around 3000lbs with the driver. Car ran 11.8 at 115mph. On a 100 shot, ran 11.1 at 124(came through the traps overreved about 1000rpm). No slouch behind the wheel. So lets say the mach in this video has 360whp. That extra 30whp is not going to make up for the fact that my friends was an all out race car and then gain 4mph on top of it. Anyone catch my drift here?

AWDTBSS
03-26-2012, 09:57 AM
first race was hard to watch lol, your car looks good tho

HioSSilver
03-26-2012, 10:04 AM
i would agree with u if these runs were done at higher speeds. OP states this was a 40-120. No where in those speeds should that mach be tired if its trapping 119. Id say ops car for what it is and mods done, would do 122-123. Ive just done a lot of racing like this, and thats a strong 8-10mph trap difference. And based off the runs of the mach at the track. its not exactly running efficient to get that mph either considering its running in the 12s. It just seems odd to me thats all. I also cant see how that mach is trapping 119 with exhaust, gear, and cams. Ive seen some strong ass machs in my day NA go down the track. Still never saw one trap that high. Not saying they cant... just not common at all. One guy i knew had a mach with slightly played with heads (slightly), advanced stock cams, 4.88 gears, 28inch slicks, full front and rear race suspension(cradles and all), full exhaust, ewp, port matched intake. Made about 330whp and weighed around 3000lbs with the driver. Car ran 11.8 at 115mph. On a 100 shot, ran 11.1 at 124(came through the traps overreved about 1000rpm). No slouch behind the wheel. So lets say the mach in this video has 360whp. That extra 30whp is not going to make up for the fact that my friends was an all out race car and then gain 4mph on top of it. Anyone catch my drift here?
I thought tbe mph for the mach was extremely high. Those cars do good to get to 110 with bolt-ons. I don't see cams being worth 7-9mph on that motor.

Stopsign32v
03-26-2012, 10:18 AM
:rotflmao: I've told Shakn from the start he needed to run at another track. When he was close to stock he trapped 113moh yet only ran 13s. And 360rwhp in a full weight Mach 1 doesn't trap 119-120mph. Moron.... Great kill man!!!!

evangto87
03-26-2012, 10:20 AM
:rotflmao: I've told Shakn from the start he needed to run at another track. When he was close to stock he trapped 113moh yet only ran 13s. And 360rwhp in a full weight Mach 1 doesn't trap 119-120mph. Moron.... Great kill man!!!!

umm... thats my point... thanks for name calling though. Classy

Stopsign32v
03-26-2012, 10:21 AM
I thought tbe mph for the mach was extremely high. Those cars do good to get to 110 with bolt-ons. I don't see cams being worth 7-9mph on that motor.

Read what I wrote. His 1/8 when he was stock matched mine when I was stock. ET was close to the same yet he trapped 113 to my 105. Now take away close to the same amount now and his car sounds right for the amount of power...114-115mph trap speed. Not to mention he is no john force behind the wheel.

evangto87
03-26-2012, 10:23 AM
so hes a worse driver then you... yet in the second half of the track grabs another 8mph on you... both stock.... what??

automach1
03-26-2012, 10:25 AM
110 is easy with a bolt on mach.

Stopsign32v
03-26-2012, 10:29 AM
so hes a worse driver then you... yet in the second half of the track grabs another 8mph on you... both stock.... what??

Exactly. I got him to post up his timeslip and compared them then he took his slip down. The track he goes to has a screwed up 1/4 mph sensor.

Basically his 1/8 was 84mph yet 1/4 was 113. That's just funny for a close to stock Mach 1.

evangto87
03-26-2012, 10:37 AM
so his 119 trap is actually a 115trap?

automach1
03-26-2012, 10:38 AM
lololol...just re-read REDFIRE 03's comments about needing a blower to compete...i guess for the mustang guy knowing he needs help, it must feel like a penile enhancer...just knowing you need ''help'' just to measure up...lolololol..

Yea the 300+ lb weight advantage doesn't the z at all.

HioSSilver
03-26-2012, 10:40 AM
so his 119 trap is actually a 115trap?

That would sound and look about right.

2SSARME
03-26-2012, 10:40 AM
mach defenders to the rescue

HioSSilver
03-26-2012, 10:42 AM
Yea the 300+ lb weight advantage doesn't the z at all.

The weight advantage was great when you ford guys had it with the old foxes....you cry when it goes the other way. Even when your cammed up, pitiful.

why87
03-26-2012, 10:46 AM
Read what I wrote. His 1/8 when he was stock matched mine when I was stock. ET was close to the same yet he trapped 113 to my 105. Now take away close to the same amount now and his car sounds right for the amount of power...114-115mph trap speed. Not to mention he is no john force behind the wheel.

:jest: 119mph kinda went out the window when I watched the roll race. Zyborg's car runs hard but it looked like it was running c6z hard if the Mach ran 119. Regardless nice kill, both cars were bad ass. OP your Z has me jealous..:angel:

evangto87
03-26-2012, 10:50 AM
it all makes sense now...

Stopsign32v
03-26-2012, 10:52 AM
so his 119 trap is actually a 115trap?

I would say if he was a good driver. I'd imagine at a different track HE would trap 113.

automach1
03-26-2012, 11:04 AM
The weight advantage was great when you ford guys had it with the old foxes....you cry when it goes the other way. Even when your cammed up, pitiful.

I could care less as I don't have that problem. Just figured I would point out the obvious.

GotHemi?
03-26-2012, 11:08 AM
A lot of what is being said now makes sense. From the start i said it appeared his car was c6z fast. Then said it looked like a 10mph pull. Then hio said his car should trap 123 at best, now truth is the sensors are off at his track and his car is actually a 113-115mph car. Right on the money.

No matter what the OP's car is a strong runner!!

Stopsign32v
03-26-2012, 11:20 AM
A lot of what is being said now makes sense. From the start i said it appeared his car was c6z fast. Then said it looked like a 10mph pull. Then hio said his car should trap 123 at best, now truth is the sensors are off at his track and his car is actually a 113-115mph car. Right on the money.

No matter what the OP's car is a strong runner!!

Yea Shakn is all butt hurt on SVTP.


Damnit I hate being right... :devil:

GXPPOWER
03-26-2012, 11:39 AM
ahaha can you imagine alll the people who run at that track and think they are alot faster they they really are? heck id be a low 12 second 116mph car there LOL

Stopsign32v
03-26-2012, 11:49 AM
Someone invite him over here...

adamantium
03-26-2012, 12:00 PM
I can see the short gear being the reason for the dragging if they ran em to 140+ but they only went to 120. That was a wayyy harder than a 2mph pull if indeed his car traps 122.

Ive raced a c/i ls2 c6 that traps 125 and he didnt pull me no where near as bad as he pulled that Mach and I trap 118. Heres the video. Take into consideration that he red lighted and got a .300 jump on me.



This! That pull was way to rapid to only be a 2-3mph faster car than the mach 1, i was thinking to myself last night "Atleast 125mph trap car."


Edit: Just read all the comments, yep seems ALOT more believable now I was thinking "god damn 119mph trap, shit". OP's car is definitely a freak, i saw more of his vids his car BOOKS for what it is.

Stopsign32v
03-26-2012, 12:21 PM
so you can stop your damn whining, 1st one is boltons, second is cammed/boltons.

http://i1064.photobucket.com/albums/u369/shakn04/2012-03-26_10-56-46_805.jpg

http://i1064.photobucket.com/albums/u369/shakn04/2012-03-26_10-54-36_59.jpg



:beer:

And here is mine

o/r H, catback, shifter
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e110/Stopsign32v/machtime.jpg

mods in sig (all my times are full weight also)
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e110/Stopsign32v/Mobile%20Uploads/IMG_9860.jpg

So you can look at both of our slips and come to conclude that your car at a different track should trap around 113mph while cammed. Just pointing that out and the video concludes seeing as how Zborg probably has a true 120mph car. Not sure what the big deal is.

...........

adamantium
03-26-2012, 12:30 PM
lol just ask him. So in your opinion how much do you think a stock intake exhaust tune c5z should trap?

AWDTBSS
03-26-2012, 12:31 PM
28mph on the back end in a bolt on mach 1 LOL!

Johnnystock
03-26-2012, 12:34 PM
ahhh ok! Then its more believable Zyborg can pull on this 112-113 like that!! The way it pulled on this ''119''mph car made it look like a 128-129 mph honestly..ZR1 mph?? I was like WTF!!!

Thanks stopsign32v LOL

2SSARME
03-26-2012, 12:35 PM
My car traps 156.

ohioborn80
03-26-2012, 12:39 PM
My car traps 156.

So you took it to the track or just throwing more numbers out there?

HioSSilver
03-26-2012, 12:42 PM
Good post stoppy. Your 1000' is quicker then his on your 13.2 run also. Even with him being 7 mph faster. Something is off with his trapps for sure. Hell your only .17 off his on the 1000' on your 12.5 run but 11mph slower......even mach's with cams don't pull that hard in the last 250'.

Johnnystock
03-26-2012, 01:01 PM
So you took it to the track or just throwing more numbers out there?

pretty obvious..

2SSARME
03-26-2012, 01:15 PM
So you took it to the track or just throwing more numbers out there?

I never thought you were this slow......

:(

BayAreaSS
03-26-2012, 03:30 PM
I knew that was going to happen. That 119 trap is bs and its sad that he believed his traps were right lol.

Good kill Zyborg

Stopsign32v
03-26-2012, 03:55 PM
I knew that was going to happen. That 119 trap is bs and its sad that he believed his traps were right lol.

Good kill Zyborg

He's a moron. But I'm just jealous because I point out that his car with 360rwhp can't touch 119-120mph. Hell it would be lucky to hit 115mph IMO. He's a clown.

Now give me his car and a couple of my mods....well then.... ;)

Stopsign32v
03-26-2012, 03:56 PM
*waiting for Eaton to go on, hit the track, 135+mph trap speed, still lose to a bolt onC5 Z06 from a roll*

:corn:

clonedws6
03-26-2012, 04:34 PM
Lol shit stoppy hurting his own people's feelings

Stopsign32v
03-26-2012, 04:37 PM
Lol shit stoppy hurting his own people's feelings

I am NOT brand loyal.

Check out the thread if anyone wants a good laugh. http://www.svtperformance.com/forums/pics-videos-buffet-149/838452-zyborg-vs-shakn04-5.html#post11640208

clonedws6
03-26-2012, 04:42 PM
Well I hate you less now if that counts for anything. Lol

CyberGrey Z28
03-26-2012, 05:05 PM
How much power is the Mach putting down with Eaton? 420-440rwhp?

clonedws6
03-26-2012, 05:23 PM
I would pray lol

LS1rob00
03-26-2012, 05:24 PM
Hahaha that track is broken!

Good Kill Zyborg your Z moves well.

automach1
03-26-2012, 07:44 PM
how much power is the mach putting down with eaton? 420-440rwhp?

455...

ohioborn80
03-26-2012, 09:06 PM
I never thought you were this slow......

:(

Nope just pointing out more unproven numbers of what your car runs. Still a 13 sec car.

Killemall
03-26-2012, 10:45 PM
Lol...zyborg is da man.

BlkMach1
03-26-2012, 11:50 PM
Myth busted, nothing proven about this "119mph cammed Mach". Thanks at shakn for posting his slips and solving the mystery.

38394Z28
03-27-2012, 12:38 AM
lol nice work Zyborg. I wish my car ran like that lol your car really doesn't make any sense...I'm going to stop trying to figure it out and just understand that its the fastest bolt on c5z in the country lol

2SSARME
03-27-2012, 12:45 AM
Nope just pointing out more unproven numbers of what your car runs. Still a 13 sec car.

Faster than your 10 second run skipper

ZYBORG
03-27-2012, 02:53 AM
Man this thread went to shit too! Lol...

Guys,

honestly, i think that sometimes we spend too much time trying to figure out and break down shit and we forget to just enjoy the videos and races for what they are. Two car guys getting together and running just to have a good time.

If there is one thing i have learned thru all my years street racing is that no matter what mods your car has, what it dynos or puts out at "X" track you never really know until you run them in the street.

RUN WHAT YOU BRUNG AND HOPE YOU BROUGHT ENOUGH!

DoggyB22
03-27-2012, 06:16 AM
So did someone call the track to tell them their clock is on drugs...... Haha

Mike Morris
03-27-2012, 09:54 AM
Zyborg your car is always very impressive...

Johnnystock
03-27-2012, 01:31 PM
Its funny how hard the Mach 1 owner still thinks his 1/4 time is right after beeing raped like that by Zyborg!!

marc97taws6
03-27-2012, 03:35 PM
...........
Nice 60 foot Stopsign. You are 60'ing what my old TA did on some ET Street Radials. Too bad your trap speed is higher and ET is lower :(

ohioborn80
03-27-2012, 04:46 PM
Faster than your 10 second run skipper

I bet you aren't...as said before stop making excuses and take it to the track. Im sure them 22's will help it run some more 13's.

MACH32V
03-27-2012, 07:37 PM
I realize some things are hard to believe but the guys has a video of his runs and the time slips. How much does everyone need now? Then you are saying that the track needs to recalibrate their sensors?
Would'nt everyone at the track that day been reading wrong times including Zyborg?
Wow..what does is take today to convince people?

Zyborg, you have a sweet, strong running ride man... :cheers:

HioSSilver
03-27-2012, 08:47 PM
I realize some things are hard to believe but the guys has a video of his runs and the time slips. How much does everyone need now? Then you are saying that the track needs to recalibrate their sensors?
Would'nt everyone at the track that day been reading wrong times including Zyborg?
Wow..what does is take today to convince people?

Zyborg, you have a sweet, strong running ride man... :cheers:

That's what I said about my 9 129-130 passes. But machs don't mph that hard anyway with out boost.

Edit....actually 10 129+ passes. It did it once the time before.

Stopsign32v
03-27-2012, 08:55 PM
That's what I said about my 9 129-130 passes. But machs don't mph that hard anyway with out boost.

Edit....actually 10 129+ passes. It did it once the time before.

I could get a stock bottom end N/A Mach to MPH that I believe. With the mods and driver skills Shakn had I agree with you though. There are a lot of tricks you can do to these cars that some don't know. I'll leave it at that...

HioSSilver
03-27-2012, 09:03 PM
I could get a stock bottom end N/A Mach to MPH that I believe. With the mods and driver skills Shakn had I agree with you though. There are a lot of tricks you can do to these cars that some don't know. I'll leave it at that...

I don't know if you could. it's gonna take some really good heads, alot of cam and some serious rpm to get one to do that. Your gonna have to spin it hard and they don't have great bottem ends anyway. If it did it may not last long.

Stopsign32v
03-27-2012, 09:08 PM
I don't know if you could. it's gonna take some really good heads, alot of cam and some serious rpm to get one to do that. Your gonna have to spin it hard and they don't have great bottem ends anyway. If it did it may not last long.

No really, you could do it with stock cams, stock heads, stock bottom end...you will need to spin it though but I figured that was a given, it's a small motor.

If I were to do it I would put in cams yes, wouldn't touch the heads, and a few other things. Not really that hard, just like any other NA Ford...takes brains to run hard.

Packy
03-27-2012, 09:15 PM
Nice runs! I wish that last one would have the chance to go to about 120-130 mph.

HioSSilver
03-27-2012, 09:22 PM
No really, you could do it with stock cams, stock heads, stock bottom end...you will need to spin it though but I figured that was a given, it's a small motor.

If I were to do it I would put in cams yes, wouldn't touch the heads, and a few other things. Not really that hard, just like any other NA Ford...takes brains to run hard.

You have one.....so get to work....lol good luck

Stopsign32v
03-27-2012, 09:25 PM
You have one.....so get to work....lol good luck

Can't do it over night. It will take time...kinda like you running 10's with a 130mph trap speed. :cheers:

MACH32V
03-27-2012, 09:36 PM
I agree with you guys on the mph. If someone would have said they trapped that high with an N/A MACH, I would have been looking over every mods on the car also. However, with all the proof the OP brought forward, instead of refusing to believe the ETs and traps, I would rather chalk it up to "what else does he have done that he is not saying". That would make more sense rather than not believing what he had on video and what he displayed on his time slips.

automach1
03-27-2012, 09:42 PM
That's what I said about my 9 129-130 passes. But machs don't mph that hard anyway with out boost.
Edit....actually 10 129+ passes. It did it once the time before.

:bored: lol

automach1
03-27-2012, 09:45 PM
I don't know if you could. it's gonna take some really good heads, alot of cam and some serious rpm to get one to do that. Your gonna have to spin it hard and they don't have great bottem ends anyway. If it did it may not last long.

There are 2 bolt on machs traping 119+ alot of others n/a 4v cars traping 117+.

Stopsign32v
03-27-2012, 09:47 PM
there are 2 bolt on machs traping 119+ alot of others n/a 4v cars traping 117+.

:| :| :|

automach1
03-27-2012, 09:48 PM
I don't know if you could. it's gonna take some really good heads, alot of cam and some serious rpm to get one to do that. Your gonna have to spin it hard and they don't have great bottem ends anyway. If it did it may not last long.

There are 2 bolt on machs traping 119+ alot of others n/a 4v cars traping 117+ with boltons. If you where to add the right heads/cams combo to any of those cars they would see 125+.

ZYBORG
03-27-2012, 10:14 PM
Well, thanks for all the good comments.... Until next video!

BayAreaSS
03-27-2012, 11:03 PM
There are 2 bolt on machs traping 119+ alot of others n/a 4v cars traping 117+ with boltons. If you where to add the right heads/cams combo to any of those cars they would see 125+.

I'd love to see a stock bottom end na mach trap 125+

thats a stretch

why87
03-27-2012, 11:42 PM
I'd love to see a stock bottom end na mach trap 125+

thats a stretch

I'd love to see a bolt-on n/a 4v trap 119+. A tin can with glass is the only way I see it happening.

BayAreaSS
03-27-2012, 11:54 PM
I'd love to see a bolt-on n/a 4v trap 119+. A tin can with glass is the only way I see it happening.

Yea pretty much

automach1
03-28-2012, 12:05 AM
I'd love to see a stock bottom end na mach trap 125+

thats a stretch

I'd love to see a bolt-on n/a 4v trap 119+. A tin can with glass is the only way I see it happening.

His car actually traped as high as 123 once (120.xx consistent) @ 3020 raceweight (which is not a tin can) with bolt-ons. So yes with heads/cams it would see 125+ Not sure why it is such a far stretch when there are multiple bolton 4vs traping ~118. Cams and heads on a light car are worth alot. Hell my car should do pretty well with a h/c/i and 11:5:1 compression whis is not a whole lot considering stock ls2 is 10:9:1 your h/c/i car is 10:75:1 (some h/c/i cars even more) stock ls6 is 10:5:1 new 5.0 is 11:1 etc.. See what I mean.

HioSSilver
03-28-2012, 12:39 AM
There are 2 bolt on machs traping 119+ alot of others n/a 4v cars traping 117+.

I know plenty of guys with 4v cars. N/a I don't think any has been over 110. Boosted none are over 123 and some don't break 120.

Yea stoppy I would like to get a 10 pass before the 6 comes out, but I didn't do the work over winter that I wanted to to the car. It may not happen. I have my rear (a aluminum centered Dana 44) starting to get close. I need to get the 7 in by summer so I can get it all tuned up to run this fall.

BayAreaSS
03-28-2012, 03:10 AM
His car actually traped as high as 123 once (120.xx consistent) @ 3020 raceweight (which is not a tin can) with bolt-ons. So yes with heads/cams it would see 125+ Not sure why it is such a far stretch when there are multiple bolton 4vs traping ~118. Cams and heads on a light car are worth alot. Hell my car should do pretty well with a h/c/i and 11:5:1 compression whis is not a whole lot considering stock ls2 is 10:9:1 your h/c/i car is 10:75:1 (some h/c/i cars even more) stock ls6 is 10:5:1 new 5.0 is 11:1 etc.. See what I mean.

What can you do to lose 500-600lbs and not be a tin can?

automach1
03-28-2012, 05:31 AM
What can you do to lose 500-600lbs and not be a tin can?

Ask Hio lol Pretty easy honsetly just need to have the money for parts. They start off about 3375-3400 with 1/4 tank of gas stock.

HioSSilver
03-28-2012, 08:15 AM
Ask Hio lol Pretty easy honsetly just need to have the money for parts. They start off about 3375-3400 with 1/4 tank of gas stock.

Well I have lost near 400+/-.......and your not gonna do that buyin parts and keeping your car complete. It takes a bit more effort. Eventually I maybe able to get a little more out of it. I still haven't cut anything off the main chassis and I don't intend too.

automach1
03-28-2012, 10:06 AM
Lol nothing wrong with the way you did things I just think its funny how you think u are the only one smart enough to make a light street car. Mine will see the street a lot this summer with cold a/c blowing in the ms heat at pretty light weight.

HioSSilver
03-28-2012, 10:18 AM
Lol nothing wrong with the way you did things I just think its funny how you think u are the only one smart enough to make a light street car. Mine will see the street a lot this summer with cold a/c blowing in the ms heat at pretty light weight.

I never said that.....but now that you mention it how many fully steetable 3000-3050lb fbody's that are complete have you ever seen?? Your not gonna buy parts and get there.

automach1
03-28-2012, 12:21 PM
Lol I have seen some pretty light streetable fbodys. Ok well I will be driving my car as a dd this summer so regardless of how light it is there will no questioning if its a street car ;) serious question what battery do you use?

HioSSilver
03-28-2012, 12:25 PM
A 21.5 lb Braille. Anything any smaller don't really have the capacity I need for anything but starting the car.

automach1
03-28-2012, 01:05 PM
Oh ok could you tell me which one exactly. Thanks

HioSSilver
03-28-2012, 01:18 PM
oh ok could you tell me which one exactly. Thanks

b3121

Bitemark46
03-28-2012, 02:58 PM
Stopsign- I think you're right about his car. Turbo cars back half 28mph +. Not a cammed n/a 4.6. Hell I only back half around 22-23ish. But I will throw in that my 1/8th is 91mph (more than his cammed runs) but yet he comes around me by 4mph. Thats haulin the mail on motor. And I've been known not to be easy on the tranny too.

-Mark

Stopsign32v
03-28-2012, 04:54 PM
I'd love to see a bolt-on n/a 4v trap 119+. A tin can with glass is the only way I see it happening.

Well fucking duh...

Stopsign32v
03-28-2012, 05:03 PM
Yea stoppy I would like to get a 10 pass before the 6 comes out, but I didn't do the work over winter that I wanted to to the car. It may not happen. I have my rear (a aluminum centered Dana 44) starting to get close. I need to get the 7 in by summer so I can get it all tuned up to run this fall.

If I were you there would be no way in hell that LS6 would come out before it ran 10s. Nice sounding rear, bet it was $$$. What spline is your trans?

adamantium
03-28-2012, 05:07 PM
Well I have lost near 400+/-.......and your not gonna do that buyin parts and keeping your car complete. It takes a bit more effort. Eventually I maybe able to get a little more out of it. I still haven't cut anything off the main chassis and I don't intend too.

How "incomplete" is your car? lol. Dropping 400lbs is pretty darn impressive.

BayAreaSS
03-28-2012, 06:26 PM
Ask Hio lol Pretty easy honsetly just need to have the money for parts. They start off about 3375-3400 with 1/4 tank of gas stock.
I know how much they weigh and I know how much stuff has to be done to get the car that light. I wouldn't say its "pretty easy"
Hio has done some creative stuff to keep his car a street car.
Well I have lost near 400+/-.......and your not gonna do that buyin parts and keeping your car complete. It takes a bit more effort. Eventually I maybe able to get a little more out of it. I still haven't cut anything off the main chassis and I don't intend too.

Are you at the point now where you are maxed out as far as stuff to do? My car isn't very light but I am comfortable where its at. I like that its not looking like a race car.

automach1
03-28-2012, 07:36 PM
I know how much they weigh and I know how much stuff has to be done to get the car that light. I wouldn't say its "pretty easy"
Hio has done some creative stuff to keep his car a street car.


Are you at the point now where you are maxed out as far as stuff to do? My car isn't very light but I am comfortable where its at. I like that its not looking like a race car.



Like I said if you have the money for lightweight tubular parts, seats, battery, wheels, brakes etc... then no it is pretty easy to get that light.

How light is your car?

01 FiveNine RT
03-28-2012, 08:23 PM
Nice kills, good to see the car still running strong. Keep posting videos when u can, i've always liked the car!... This is Cody btw, driver of the orange SRT4 that ran you/abner a while back in WPB

HioSSilver
03-28-2012, 08:33 PM
I know how much they weigh and I know how much stuff has to be done to get the car that light. I wouldn't say its "pretty easy"
Hio has done some creative stuff to keep his car a street car.


Are you at the point now where you are maxed out as far as stuff to do? My car isn't very light but I am comfortable where its at. I like that its not looking like a race car.
thanks..... I don't think auto realizes how much effort it took. Just shows his lack of experience.

I'm not maxed out yet. I think I an get it to 2950 or so. I've had some parts I wanted to lighten over winter but I didn't get to. I'm workin on a aluminum rear for the car that I hope will save 10lb. It would be nice to get a lithium batt. for it to save another 12lb, but at $800 I doubt that will happen. I've thought about changin to soe afco coilovers , but that would take some sorting out. I could probably knock another 5-10 off but I may go with Strano's setup.
Like I said if you have the money for lightweight tubular parts, seats, battery, wheels, brakes etc... then no it is pretty easy to get that light.

How light is your car?

I don't have drag brakes, they would suck for a real dd. I've lightened my own k-memeber and lots of other stuff. Trust me when I say you not gonna buy parts alone and get there. The stuff you listed might get you 200lb saved.

Bitemark46
03-28-2012, 09:15 PM
I took 600lbs out of my car. I still have PS, PB, PW, radio, airbag, and stock 13" front brakes, 11.4" rear. I can take another 32lbs out the car and you couldn't even tell. Car still has all the interior panels, and even a cd player. Gonna take everything out including the dash to put a cage in it then put the dash back in.

-Mark

HioSSilver
03-28-2012, 09:28 PM
I can tell from you pic you don't have inner fender Wells. Do you still have heat/AC? What does it weigh? there is alot more that could come out of mine if I didn't dd it. You told me once it was gutted.

whatsnext
03-28-2012, 10:25 PM
I have my car down to 3175 now and the only thing it does not have is a rear seat and I put corbeau seats in place of the stock so I do not have a power drivers seat . If I went with lighter rims and a few other light weight parts I could get it down to 3100 with only losing power driver seat and the back seat and who wants to sit in the back of one of these things .

Stopsign32v
03-28-2012, 10:30 PM
I have my car down to 3175 now and the only thing it does not have is a rear seat and I put corbeau seats in place of the stock so I do not have a power drivers seat . If I went with lighter rims and a few other light weight parts I could get it down to 3100 with only losing power driver seat and the back seat and who wants to sit in the back of one of these things .

PM me details puh-lease :)

automach1
03-28-2012, 10:40 PM
thanks..... I don't think auto realizes how much effort it took. Just shows his lack of experience.

I'm not maxed out yet. I think I an get it to 2950 or so. I've had some parts I wanted to lighten over winter but I didn't get to. I'm workin on a aluminum rear for the car that I hope will save 10lb. It would be nice to get a lithium batt. for it to save another 12lb, but at $800 I doubt that will happen. I've thought about changin to soe afco coilovers , but that would take some sorting out. I could probably knock another 5-10 off but I may go with Strano's setup.


I don't have drag brakes, they would suck for a real dd. I've lightened my own k-memeber and lots of other stuff. Trust me when I say you not gonna buy parts alone and get there. The stuff you listed might get you 200lb saved.

I have already been through weight reduction I had my heavy ass 05 3v down to 3420 with my 185 in it at the time. That was with stock k member, a-arms, stock brakes, stock leather seats, etc... So if I start off with a car that is a 100+ lbs lighter from the start add some tubular parts,seats,brakes etc... and go a little futher you can see how it would get light pretty fast.

I know of ppl that dd aerospace brakes and they say it stops just as well as the stock gt brakes.

BayAreaSS
03-28-2012, 11:02 PM
Like I said if you have the money for lightweight tubular parts, seats, battery, wheels, brakes etc... then no it is pretty easy to get that light.

How light is your car?

Oh ok we're talking about race cars that are driven on the street. Makes a lot more sense now.

Idk how much my car weighs. I can tell you its not that light because It isn't gutted or really have any light weight parts on it. Still have stock interior as well minus the back seats.

automach1
03-28-2012, 11:05 PM
Oh ok we're talking about race cars that are driven on the street. Makes a lot more sense now.

Idk how much my car weighs. I can tell you its not that light because It isn't gutted or really have any light weight parts on it. Still have stock interior as well minus the back seats.

Uh what makes a light car a racecar? Nothing I listed makes the car a racecar lol. You don't have back seats so racecar? What do you have out as far as weight/suspension?


3017lbs for a mach takes the following

A/C Delete ( I live in MS hell no lol)
No Quad Shocks
No Passenger seat (I plan to keep stock leather for now)
Lightweight driver seat
Self-Made Rear Seat Delete
Rear Mach 1 Sub Box removed
No front sway bar, jack, spare tire
Trunl Panels & Underhood liner removed ( I have a light weight cowl hood no shaker bs)
Front & rear bumper support brackets + foam removed
Stock radio/CD player replaced w/aftermarket gauges & panel ( I plan to keep stock cd player)

Although not listed under weight reduction, the AJE K-member/A-Arms, lightweight race brakes, lightweight drag rims/slicks/skinnies & aluminum flywheel all significantly reduce weight.


I have also removed the 8.8 housing "Damper" that goes on the front of the housing near the pinion flange.

BayAreaSS
03-28-2012, 11:10 PM
Uh what makes a light car a racecar? You don't have back seats so racecar? What do you have out as far as weight/suspension?

Once you start running drag brakes and bigs/littles you are getting real close to the borderline of street car/race car especially if you are running one of those kirkey metal seats lol. I actually like seeing cars with all this stuff done to them.... Makes my car look that much better lol
And my back seats are out for a particular reason. I have actually been thinking about putting them back in so my car is FULL interior and running a good number.

All my suspension is heavier then stock and my rearend is as well. I don't have emissions stuff and I have drag wheels. I have true duals as well that are dumped

automach1
03-28-2012, 11:18 PM
Once you start running drag brakes and bigs/littles you are getting real close to the borderline of street car/race car especially if you are running one of those kirkey metal seats lol. I actually like seeing cars with all this stuff done to them.... Makes my car look that much better lol
And my back seats are out for a particular reason. I have actually been thinking about putting them back in so my car is FULL interior and running a good number.

All my suspension is heavier then stock and my rearend is as well. I don't have emissions stuff and I have drag wheels. I have true duals as well that are dumped


Ah I see well drag brakes brake just fine so don't knock them untill you have had them just becasue someone buys some nice lightweight brakes does not mean racecar lol I plan to go with a fx1 seat not a tin can 10lb seat. I daily bigs n littles no problem. I actually like the feel/look better then bigger rims. I put 30k in my 3v on them without one single problem drove 200+ miles a week.

Well I would love to keep the car as heavy as possible and claim oh well it is heavier then your car that is why I lost but hey you still lost lol

BayAreaSS
03-28-2012, 11:49 PM
Ah I see well drag brakes brake just fine so don't knock them untill you have had them just becasue someone buys some nice lightweight brakes does not mean racecar lol I plan to go with a fx1 seat not a tin can 10lb seat. I daily bigs n littles no problem. I actually like the feel/look better then bigger rims. I put 30k in my 3v on them without one single problem drove 200+ miles a week.

Well I would love to keep the car as heavy as possible and claim oh well it is heavier then your car that is why I lost but hey you still lost lol

yea i haven't ever used the weight excuse lol. I don't mind driving on skinnes either. People can do what they want to their car doesn't matter to me. Its a nice feeling to run with/beat cars that have a lot of weight taken out or even trailered to the track.

I'm tired of hearing about this na 4v beast.... You ready to run it yet? lol

automach1
03-29-2012, 12:00 AM
yea i haven't ever used the weight excuse lol. I don't mind driving on skinnes either. People can do what they want to their car doesn't matter to me. Its a nice feeling to run with/beat cars that have a lot of weight taken out or even trailered to the track.

I'm tired of hearing about this na 4v beast.... You ready to run it yet? lol

Yea I understand Imo street cars drive to the track.

It is a myth and may never run lol It is in the process of getting put back together :angel:

BayAreaSS
03-29-2012, 04:48 AM
Yea I understand Imo street cars drive to the track.

It is a myth and may never run lol It is in the process of getting put back together :angel:

thats my opinion too. Hell I drive to the track 200 miles round trip and I've driven back home in traffic in the rain. Now thats a street car.

I thought your car was already together? something happen?

HioSSilver
03-29-2012, 07:46 AM
Uh what makes a light car a racecar? Nothing I listed makes the car a racecar lol. You don't have back seats so racecar? What do you have out as far as weight/suspension?


3017lbs for a mach takes the following

A/C Delete ( I live in MS hell no lol)
No Quad Shocks
No Passenger seat (I plan to keep stock leather for now)
Lightweight driver seat
Self-Made Rear Seat Delete
Rear Mach 1 Sub Box removed
No front sway bar, jack, spare tire
Trunl Panels & Underhood liner removed ( I have a light weight cowl hood no shaker bs)
Front & rear bumper support brackets + foam removed
Stock radio/CD player replaced w/aftermarket gauges & panel ( I plan to keep stock cd player)

Although not listed under weight reduction, the AJE K-member/A-Arms, lightweight race brakes, lightweight drag rims/slicks/skinnies & aluminum flywheel all significantly reduce weight.


I have also removed the 8.8 housing "Damper" that goes on the front of the housing near the pinion flange.

You have several things listed that's gone that I still have. That's what makes it impressive. I still have bumper supports, 4 people can still set in it with belts, oe monsoon radio is intact. I could remove all that shit, but im not.....that's getting into racecar territory.

Those brakes will only hold up to limited street duty. The oe will be more reliable too.

Bitemark46
03-29-2012, 09:54 AM
I can tell from you pic you don't have inner fender Wells. Do you still have heat/AC? What does it weigh? there is alot more that could come out of mine if I didn't dd it. You told me once it was gutted.

I wouldn't call it gutted. When I race I take the pass side seat out and I have a lightweight 15lb drivers seat I swap in and I have a rear seat delete. Thats it for the interior. Still has all the door panels, seatbelts, center console, carpet, radio, etc.

Those inner fender wells weight collectively maybe 6lbs. lol. I just left them off because it was a PITA to take them out and probably more of a PITA to put them back on. That and my MAF sits just behind my foglights. I tried to get the incoming air not to be turbulant when it hit the fender well but just pass through and let the meter pick up the air that it needs.

I took the ac out. Even in FL I'd rarely use it. Only time I used it was when I was dressed up for work or going out when it was my DD. Car weighs 2850 w/o me. If I went hardcare on it I could probably get it down under 2700lbs but I don't want to cut it up yet.

automach1
03-29-2012, 10:03 AM
You have several things listed that's gone that I still have. That's what makes it impressive. I still have bumper supports, 4 people can still set in it with belts, oe monsoon radio is intact. I could remove all that shit, but im not.....that's getting into racecar territory.

Those brakes will only hold up to limited street duty. The oe will be more reliable too.

Everybody has a opinion on what makes a car a racecar but if they dd the car and drive it to the track what else could it be other then a streetcar lol

HioSSilver
03-29-2012, 10:34 AM
Everybody has a opinion on what makes a car a racecar but if they dd the car and drive it to the track what else could it be other then a streetcar lol

A race car on the street.....that's what else it could be. I'm street car first, race car second. You race car first street car second.

Good job bitemark. Im just not willing to give up what few amenities these cars have. If I were I could get a solid 200 out of mine. Crash protection is also of some concern to me is why I kept my bumper supports. Hell I'm not even willing to give up my windshield washer resevor.

automach1
03-29-2012, 01:13 PM
A race car on the street.....that's what else it could be. I'm street car first, race car second. You race car first street car second.

Good job bitemark. Im just not willing to give up what few amenities these cars have. If I were I could get a solid 200 out of mine. Crash protection is also of some concern to me is why I kept my bumper supports. Hell I'm not even willing to give up my windshield washer resevor.

Lol call it what you want but its still a street car. If I wanted a true race car I could get it down to 28xx with me no problem.

HioSSilver
03-29-2012, 01:32 PM
Lol call it what you want but its still a street car. If I wanted a true race car I could get it down to 28xx with me no problem.

I would hope so, that would be not to hard for anyone. You call what you want, I know the difference.

automach1
03-29-2012, 03:16 PM
You know your opinion

Prime281
03-31-2012, 01:33 AM
He's a moron. But I'm just jealous because I point out that his car with 360rwhp can't touch 119-120mph. Hell it would be lucky to hit 115mph IMO. He's a clown.

Now give me his car and a couple of my mods....well then.... ;)

i wanna say as a guy who knows this mach and has seen it run in person on the street and the track, that it is legit, as for Zyborg's car its a beast one sick ride for sure,the way he beats cobras and other fast cars, is just impressive, nice ride zyborg!!!

wow stopsign broken sensor at the track really really? lmao

danger ds
03-31-2012, 04:30 AM
I don't believe that you can look at what someone MPH from a dig 1/4 mile and say 100% that it will beat or be close to another car of the same MPH from a roll.

There are more factors that come into play even from a roll, then just what you MPH in the 1/4 that determens the outcome of a roll race.

Its not like its two identical cars roll racing here.

And blaming the sensors?????? Whats the deal? Hated on the mach so much that now you have to hate on the track? lol

Prime281
04-04-2012, 09:45 PM
I'd love to see a bolt-on n/a 4v trap 119+. A tin can with glass is the only way I see it happening.

here ya go backed it up too


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rra-t0C2udA&feature=g-upl&context=G25dc5ebAUAAAAAAAPAA

HioSSilver
04-04-2012, 10:35 PM
That's the car in question....that got yanked by zyborg.

Prime281
04-04-2012, 10:52 PM
That's the car in question....that got yanked by zyborg.

yes this is the mach that zyborg raced. Zyborg's car rolls out hard,but this mach did what it did and backed it up at the track more than one time, this stopsign32 guy has always hated on this mach cause his car has never trapped as hard as this one. As for the mph sensor being off at san antonio raceway, well somone better tell mike murillo and some of the other big hitter drag racers lmao. The fact that stopsign32 would say some stupid crap like that jus proves he dont know what the hell he's talking about, and needs to quit hating and post some of his vids.

powermad
04-05-2012, 12:06 AM
That's the car in question....that got yanked by zyborg.
From ZYBORG's other thread:
This was a 09 GTR and i had my front bumper at his tails exactly at 145...
I just think its funny that he can stay right on the tail of a car that traps 124-126, but then y'all seemed surprised when he yanks a 119 car....

powermad
04-05-2012, 12:21 AM
Same night, same track. The MPH on this ZR1 looks to be exactly in line with what they run. No "inflated" mph as some here would have you believe (or want to believe themselves).
Myth busted, nothing proven about this "119mph cammed Mach".
Your busted myth was just rebusted.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6H77AJu3b2s&context=C4ced10dADvjVQa1PpcFPvF_FlSwoaXfhykwnc52FO _xvlRNZzhEc=

powermad
04-05-2012, 12:32 AM
I would say if he was a good driver. I'd imagine at a different track HE would trap 113.

I guess that ZR1 at a different track would trap 126.....

Mike Morris
04-05-2012, 12:37 AM
yes this is the mach that zyborg raced. Zyborg's car rolls out hard,but this mach did what it did and backed it up at the track more than one time, this stopsign32 guy has always hated on this mach cause his car has never trapped as hard as this one. As for the mph sensor being off at san antonio raceway, well somone better tell mike murillo and some of the other big hitter drag racers lmao. The fact that stopsign32 would say some stupid crap like that jus proves he dont know what the hell he's talking about, and needs to quit hating and post some of his vids.

That Mach is not that fast by a long shot and this coming from a guy that has owned a stang,raced and built more Machs that he can count since 1991. Who cares who races there. A Mach with those mods and that weight would not even come close to those MPHs PERIOD.

powermad
04-05-2012, 12:39 AM
it all makes sense now...

It sure does

http://i1224.photobucket.com/albums/ee379/joeboost/Haters_Gonna_Hate.gif

HioSSilver
04-05-2012, 12:41 AM
I guess no one has seen a n/a mach trap 119.....not even the ford guys believe it......lmao.

powermad
04-05-2012, 12:47 AM
That Mach is not that fast by a long shot and this coming from a guy that has owned a stang,raced and built more Machs that he can count since 1991. Who cares who races there. A Mach with those mods and that weight would not even come close to those MPHs PERIOD.

http://i1224.photobucket.com/albums/ee379/joeboost/cool-story-bro-thumb.png

1_MEANZ28
04-05-2012, 12:47 AM
good kill

Prime281
04-05-2012, 12:48 AM
That Mach is not that fast by a long shot and this coming from a guy that has owned a stang,raced and built more Machs that he can count since 1991. Who cares who races there. A Mach with those mods and that weight would not even come close to those MPHs PERIOD.

well it was that fast with the bolt ons and the cams, really dont know what else to do to prove it,but you would think vids and timeslips would do the trick but i guess not. Sorry if none of your machs trapped that high

Nick V.
04-05-2012, 01:04 AM
HIOSSILVER- i think you should work on my car :D

danger ds
04-05-2012, 01:29 AM
That Mach is not that fast by a long shot and this coming from a guy that has owned a stang,raced and built more Machs that he can count since 1991. Who cares who races there. A Mach with those mods and that weight would not even come close to those MPHs PERIOD.


lol so because you havent done it, it cant happen hahahahaha. butt hurt

adamantium
04-05-2012, 01:40 AM
I love how an intake, exhaust c5z walked the hell out of a "119mph mach 1" Whats that mean, intake exhaust c5z's trap mid-high 120s? lol. Paha the record holder for the fastest bolt on c5z traps 122...

danger ds
04-05-2012, 01:48 AM
I love how an intake, exhaust c5z walked the hell out of a "119mph mach 1" Whats that mean, intake exhaust c5z's trap high 120s? lol.

then explain how zyborg hangs with the GTR if zyborg doesnt trap high 120?

adamantium
04-05-2012, 01:51 AM
then explain how zyborg hangs with the GTR if zyborg doesnt trap high 120?

I edited my previous post go check it out. Besides you guys have actual trap #'s for that gtr?

snake95
04-05-2012, 02:54 AM
Ouch! I thought Mach1's were fast?

:lol: I've noticed lately you've been less neutral and you're joining the more "GM4LIFE, MUSTANG'S SUCK!!!" bandwagon. Sorry for your bitterness, whatever caused it :confused:

Prime281
04-05-2012, 03:53 AM
I edited my previous post go check it out. Besides you guys have actual trap #'s for that gtr?

It wouldnt matter if we did, peolpe in this thread proly wouldnt believe it anyway, i mean wen someone posts a vid with the times and the timeslip, they still dont believe the facts. All i know the mach trapped 119 twice on the same night, and it was documented . Atleast this mach has proof of what it ran wether people want to believe it or not.

HioSSilver
04-05-2012, 08:13 AM
What has the mACH ran on other trips to the track? I don't think zyborg's track times were as good as the mach's.

adamantium
04-05-2012, 12:45 PM
It wouldnt matter if we did, peolpe in this thread proly wouldnt believe it anyway, i mean wen someone posts a vid with the times and the timeslip, they still dont believe the facts. All i know the mach trapped 119 twice on the same night, and it was documented . Atleast this mach has proof of what it ran wether people want to believe it or not.

Yeah not doubting that it was documented and that it went down. Its just very out of the norm. Do you have a run down of the slip? what was your 60ft? If you have a low 60ft and only ran a 12.2 yet trapped 119 there's something off there.

reeperz28
04-05-2012, 01:21 PM
I'm suprised nobody caught the gto at the end running 13 something with a redicoulus trap speed as well. Mph is off at that track.

adamantium
04-05-2012, 01:34 PM
I'm suprised nobody caught the gto at the end running 13 something with a redicoulus trap speed as well. Mph is off at that track.

lol 13.3 at 120. SEEMS LEGIT (notsrs).

Prime281
04-05-2012, 01:41 PM
lol 13.3 at 120. SEEMS LEGIT (notsrs).

that gto is cammed and n20.

4VwOwFactoR
04-05-2012, 01:44 PM
I'm suprised nobody caught the gto at the end running 13 something with a redicoulus trap speed as well. Mph is off at that track.

and did you notice the crappy 60' ? did you hear the spinning?

adamantium
04-05-2012, 01:45 PM
that gto is cammed and n20.

and a bolt on cam mach 1 trapped a mph less. NICE. seems even more legit.






























(notsrs)

4VwOwFactoR
04-05-2012, 01:48 PM
What has the mACH ran on other trips to the track? I don't think zyborg's track times were as good as the mach's.

heres one on 315 mickey t's, no spare tire or jack (only weight reduction)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K9LC2WAzxrU

Prime281
04-05-2012, 01:49 PM
Yeah not doubting that it was documented and that it went down. Its just very out of the norm. Do you have a run down of the slip? what was your 60ft? If you have a low 60ft and only ran a 12.2 yet trapped 119 there's something off there.


this is the run vs the gto.
the temp outside on this run was 42deg, in warmer air this mach trapped high 117s and 118

http://i1233.photobucket.com/albums/ff385/punishermach/119trap.jpg

4VwOwFactoR
04-05-2012, 01:55 PM
I'm suprised nobody caught the gto at the end running 13 something with a redicoulus trap speed as well. Mph is off at that track.

GTO timeslip: notice anything wrong? a bad 60' and playing catch-up. This car ended up going high 11's at the end of the night @ 120-121mph
RT-.4493
60'-2.7977
330'-6.4755
1/8et-9.1773
1/8mph-92.18
1000et-11.4622
1/4et-13.3927
1/4mph-120.48

zz4camaro1980
04-05-2012, 02:27 PM
LOL, Ford Fanboys to the rescue! I dont feel like re-reading this thread, but do you guys atleast understand stopsigns arguement... it seems logical to me. Run it at another track and let us know what it does.

adamantium
04-05-2012, 02:42 PM
this is the run vs the gto.
the temp outside on this run was 42deg, in warmer air this mach trapped high 117s and 118

http://i1233.photobucket.com/albums/ff385/punishermach/119trap.jpg

29 mph on the back track is crazy for your mods. Oh well cool stuff.

Prime281
04-05-2012, 05:11 PM
LOL, Ford Fanboys to the rescue! I dont feel like re-reading this thread, but do you guys atleast understand stopsigns arguement... it seems logical to me. Run it at another track and let us know what it does.

stopsign's argument is based off being a hater, jus because his car hasnt done what this one has,he feels like he needs to call bs on somone who has posted vids dyno graphs,timeslips and has given all the info on his build on other forums that stopsign is on and whining about this mach, Stopsign has always hated on this car, jus a hater,

automach1
04-05-2012, 08:16 PM
I picked up 27 mph in a mild bolt-on mach just saying.

HioSSilver
04-05-2012, 09:10 PM
Last time to the track I picked up 33or so......but I'm not a mach:poke:

Time before that I picked up 26 or so.......why the big difference? Ran the same times too but I was 3-4 mph up. No big changes really, other than I drove the car to warm everything good.

powermad
04-05-2012, 10:33 PM
I picked up 27 mph in a mild bolt-on mach just saying.

BLASPHEMY!!!!!
IMPOSSIBLE!!!!!
INCONCEIVABLE!!! :engarde:

You need to run it at another track. And if you have, you need to run it at other other tracks. And when you do, we will come up with another excuse so we can call BS :D

(anyone here get the movie reference I made?)

Prime281
04-05-2012, 11:00 PM
I picked up 27 mph in a mild bolt-on mach just saying.

very nice!!

Stopsign32v
04-05-2012, 11:02 PM
stopsign's argument is based off being a hater, jus because his car hasnt done what this one has,he feels like he needs to call bs on somone who has posted vids dyno graphs,timeslips and has given all the info on his build on other forums that stopsign is on and whining about this mach, Stopsign has always hated on this car, jus a hater,

1: I've run much faster at the track.
2: I know what cars do and don't do at the track.
3: Any full weight 94+ Mustang isn't going to trap 120mph with only 360rwhp.
4: I've posted up plenty of points to compare.
5: If you (whoever you are) and Shakn is so damn worried about what I think, do like I suggested and go to another track.

I'm not jealous in any way, believe me. I'm not trying to go super fast in my Mach 1, just out to hurt some feelings.

automach1
04-05-2012, 11:41 PM
I will say stopsign next time out with the same power mods I see no reason why you couldn't trap 110+

Stopsign32v
04-05-2012, 11:54 PM
I will say stopsign next time out with the same power mods I see no reason why you couldn't trap 110+

:confused: :confused: What are you talking about?

automach1
04-06-2012, 12:19 AM
:confused: :confused: What are you talking about?

As in your car could trap higher next time out with the power it makes duh.

work in progress
04-06-2012, 12:39 AM
Hey zyborg,
I'm not far from SA, let me know if you want to run em.

Prime281
04-06-2012, 01:28 AM
1: I've run much faster at the track.
2: I know what cars do and don't do at the track.
3: Any full weight 94+ Mustang isn't going to trap 120mph with only 360rwhp.
4: I've posted up plenty of points to compare.
5: If you (whoever you are) and Shakn is so damn worried about what I think, do like I suggested and go to another track.

I'm not jealous in any way, believe me. I'm not trying to go super fast in my Mach 1, just out to hurt some feelings.

1. post up your vids and slips!
2.not sure you do!
3.first of all shakin car made 368 rwhp, and it did trap 119.90 in 42deg weather twice in the same night!
4.points dont mean shit, post up ur runs,(if its not on vid it dont count)
5.i have personally raced at another track and run dam near the same there as i have at san antoino, as for shakin his car is not just cammed anymore,he has done more stuff to it. Honestly we really dont give a dam what you think,but when your talking trash about shakin's car and calling him a moron and a clown,that's where the problem begins,he has posted up more vids and info about his car and runs than most people do,and for you to act like you know something and start saying our track has broken mph sensors is just retarded.

Killemall
04-06-2012, 09:04 AM
I love how an intake, exhaust c5z walked the hell out of a "119mph mach 1" Whats that mean, intake exhaust c5z's trap mid-high 120s? lol. Paha the record holder for the fastest bolt on c5z traps 122...

There is a differance between quartermile and roll raceing. A z06 thats trapps 120 can eadily roll race with 123 mph cars.

Vettes have slick. 28-.32 coeficient drags.

I recently watched a 418 rwhp c6 start pulling on a 460 rwhp viper.

Viper was ahead by two cars from 50-120 and the vette pulled back to nearly even from 120-160.

Zyborgs car at 390 rwhp and slich areodynamics can hang with 123 mph cars despite probally only trapping 120-121 mph in the quarter.

This mach is hitting 119 mph because of launch and tire. 370 rwhp without a killer launch will show its face on a roll and thats what happenned.

I know for a fact some macks hit 105 mph with just 270 rwhp. Adding another 100 rwhp plus increased redline and agressive gearing and a 119 in a good da in very feasable.
:engarde:

HioSSilver
04-06-2012, 09:22 AM
HIOSSILVER- i think you should work on my car :D
Sure man ;)
I love how an intake, exhaust c5z walked the hell out of a "119mph mach 1" Whats that mean, intake exhaust c5z's trap mid-high 120s? lol. Paha the record holder for the fastest bolt on c5z traps 122...

Actually the "record" holder for the fastest bolt-on c5z06 is 10.86 or .89 @ 125. He has had a best trap of 126. With that said my bolt-on ls6 consistently trapps over 126 with a best trapp of 130.4.

Bitemark46
04-06-2012, 10:02 AM
3.first of all shakin car made 368 rwhp, and it did trap 119.90 in 42deg weather twice in the same night!

Holy shit! Well that explains it. I'm sure the DA was in the negatives. No wonder the car trapped that. Mineshaft air does wonders for n/a cars. If 368 was SAE that actual that night was probably over 380 being that cold. I'm starting to believe it did go 119. Not the norm due to the weather conditions but.

Bitemark46
04-06-2012, 10:04 AM
This mach is hitting 119 mph because of launch and tire.


Uh....no. Cars that 60' hard, trap less. You have it backwards.

HioSSilver
04-06-2012, 12:22 PM
So far everytime I have 60'Ed better my trapps have went up bitemark. But that may be because I leave pretty soft.

adamantium
04-06-2012, 12:32 PM
There is a differance between quartermile and roll raceing. A z06 thats trapps 120 can eadily roll race with 123 mph cars.

Vettes have slick. 28-.32 coeficient drags.

I recently watched a 418 rwhp c6 start pulling on a 460 rwhp viper.

Viper was ahead by two cars from 50-120 and the vette pulled back to nearly even from 120-160.

Zyborgs car at 390 rwhp and slich areodynamics can hang with 123 mph cars despite probally only trapping 120-121 mph in the quarter.

This mach is hitting 119 mph because of launch and tire. 370 rwhp without a killer launch will show its face on a roll and thats what happenned.

I know for a fact some macks hit 105 mph with just 270 rwhp. Adding another 100 rwhp plus increased redline and agressive gearing and a 119 in a good da in very feasable.
:engarde:


Ah i see thanks for pointing that all, im fairly new to these cars.

Sure man ;)


Actually the "record" holder for the fastest bolt-on c5z06 is 10.86 or .89 @ 125. He has had a best trap of 126. With that said my bolt-on ls6 consistently trapps over 126 with a best trapp of 130.4.

I just went by what corvette forum has on there thread. That sites dead so lol who knows. Thanks for the correction though.

Uh....no. Cars that 60' hard, trap less. You have it backwards.

Strong this.

Prime281
04-06-2012, 01:54 PM
Holy shit! Well that explains it. I'm sure the DA was in the negatives. No wonder the car trapped that. Mineshaft air does wonders for n/a cars. If 368 was SAE that actual that night was probably over 380 being that cold. I'm starting to believe it did go 119. Not the norm due to the weather conditions but.

yes sir the da was in negatives, but i will say this again that i have seen this mach trap 117 to 118 in positve da which equals warmer air. His car runs strong, but the good air that night defiantly helped the car make some power, we don't get that great of da in south Texas but we are excited to see anything in the negatives in the cooler months lol.

Prime281
04-06-2012, 01:57 PM
So far everytime I have 60'Ed better my trapps have went up bitemark. But that may be because I leave pretty soft.

i agree i have had the same experience as well. But i guess when a car starts leaving the line so hard like dead hookin i could see the mph drop and the et too lol.