Cadillac CTS-V - Do not deal with nfl2008!!!

Well guys,
I bought some wheels off this guy (NFL2008) that were posted on azn2dmax's WTB thread looking for two accessory wheels. NFL2008 (first name Webster and located in Virginia and phone # 434-962-2345) posted that he had a set of 4 freshly powdercoated gloss black accessory wheels with tires he'd sell. Wanted $500 a pair or $850 for the entire set. Figured i'd give them a shot since i had been considering either doing my stockers black or buying a set of the accessory wheels so why not combine the ideas and see how it looks. I text him and had him send me a couple pics. The pics he sent weren't very clear and from what i could tell, they just looked like gloss black accessory wheels as he had told me they were with the BFG tires on them as he had described. He assured me that they hadn't been mounted on a car since he got them back from powdercoat and they are absolutely perfect. He was easy to get in touch with in the beginning (of course) and seemed like a straight forward guy. I sent payment immediately upon him assuring me that the wheels were exactly as described. Well, the wheels just got here and they aren't accessory wheels!! They are the 18" Mille Miglia wheels powdercoated gloss black! I contacted him and told him these aren't the accessory wheels and he said thats what he was told they were when he bought them. I told him i wasn't interested in these and asked for a refund considering they aren't what he had described whether it was done intentionally or not and that i'd even eat shipping cost. He said he already spent the money and he is now no longer responding to my texts or calls.

Just a heads up to anyone who knows this guy or intends to deal with him in the future. I've given him ample time to respond and take care of this situation before posting this on here for everyone to see.

If this guy was local, i'd be taking care of this situation face to face. In all the years i've been buying/selling stuff, i've never had an issue like this.

That sucks man! Hopefully it gets worked out.

I hope so too but its not looking likely at this point. I mean i could file a dispute with paypal and let that run its course but thats likely to take a month or more before things are resolved and before i'll see my money again. Almost better off reposting them in the classified with a HONEST description this time and trying to recoupe what i spent or close to it. I mean they aren't bad looking wheels... just not what i'm looking for. The powdercoat is fresh and i can tell they haven't been mounted since coating by looking at the back of the wheels. That part he was honest about. The fact that he said they were one thing and turned out to be another is what i'm pissed about.

If you went through paypal file a claim with them!

Almost better off reposting them in the classified with a HONEST description this time and trying to recoupe what i spent or close to it. I mean they aren't bad looking wheels... just not what i'm looking for. The powdercoat is fresh and i can tell they haven't been mounted since coating by looking at the back of the wheels. That part he was honest about. The fact that he said they were one thing and turned out to be another is what i'm pissed about.

Can you post pics of them ?? I might be interested

Oh I'm going to. And funny I get a text from him right after all of this was posted saying he wasnt avoiding me. Lol and now he's trying to defend himself on his itrader feedback in response to the negative feedback i left spewing bullshit he knows isn't true in an attempt to recover from shady dealing. Trying to speculate that I'm not happy with these aftermarket wheels because he saw i posted saying i want the forgeline 19's now instead. Lol Bottom line... He said he was sending me factory accessory wheels and that's not what was sent. End of story.

Yeah I'll post some pics. At the gym right now but when I get home to my laptop, I'll post em up. Or text me and I'll send em that way... 832-298-0768

You sent money without being sure of what you were buying and couldn't even tell they weren't the wheels you were looking for by looking at pictures?

That sucks the seller won't work with you on this mistake. I don't think you can place the full blame on him since you saw the pics of what you were getting and still sent the money. Having said that, I still think he should work with you on the refund, especially if you were to cover shipping.

He sent me pics but they werent the best quality and the wheels actually look quite similar to the accessory wheels. Same split spoke design and being powdercoated black, isnt much to see in pics. I honestly didn't know they made another wheel for the V that is anything like the accessory wheel so yes... Maybe I should have had him send more pics and inspected them with a fine tooth comb. However, when someone tells u they have something and that something is what u are looking to buy, that's what you should get upon payment. Had he said they weren't accessory wheels, I would have simply passed on them but he was adamant that they were so I took his word along with the couple pics he sent that from what I could tell looked just like them.

i'll buy one or two off of you...

dispute it with paypal. They have always come through on my disputes that werent my fault. Pretty easy to deal with

If you paid using a credit card thru PayPal contact your credit card fastest way to get your money back. PayPal can't do crap I learned that lesson the hard way.

I'll post pics tomorrow. Disputing through PayPal is def an option but it's a lengthy process. If someone wants them, I'll just sell them and leave the situation alone. The seller has since contacted me and is somewhat trying to work with me now to make things right but instead of paying again to ship them to him, I'm going to post them up and hopefully they sell. They are good looking wheels, just not exactly what I wanted.

I'll take $850 shipped for them and I'll post pics tomorrow. Or... Feel free to text me like i said and I can send pics immediately by phone.

They are 18" Mille Miglia wheels powdercoated gloss black. Don't have center caps but I believe stock caps will fit them. Not 100% sure on that though since I just pulled them out and put them back in the boxes but it looks like they would. Tires are 265/40/18 BFG Kdw's with about 40% tread left.

Post some pictures i wanna see if it was your fault or his lmfao!

Where in VA is he located?

They are 18" Mille Miglia wheels powdercoated gloss black. Don't have center caps but I believe stock caps will fit them. Not 100% sure on that though since I just pulled them out and put them back in the boxes but it looks like they would. Tires are 265/40/18 BFG Kdw's with about 40% tread left.

the stock center caps are much too large to fit your wheel.

Keep in mind it sounds like the seller made the same mistake you did. He took someone's word that they were the accessory wheels and passed that info on to you. It's a crap situation for everyone. Lesson learned.

If you pay shipping I think the seller has no reason not to refund you. Shipping on that set is the b*tch and money down the drain...I was in the market for a set of black wheels post up some pics.

Allen, its prob partially my fault for not doing my homework but at the same time, i was taking his word that they were what he said they were and didnt feel the need to doubt him or investigate it. But yeah, maybe it was an honest mistake on his part. I just know if the situation was reversed, i'd take responsibility for listing them incorrectly whether i was told the same thing when i bought them or not. He's the seller in this situation and he should know what hes selling and for that, he should be responsible for making sure i get what i paid for. Know what i mean?

Ill post some pics tonight. I just need to get on my laptop after work so i can upload them to photobucket and post them. Or... I can email them if you pm me an email or text me at the number listed above. As far as the center caps fitting or not, i haven't tried them personally but i'll take your word that they wont fit. Im sure replacements can be ordered though if needed. Shouldn't be hard to get now that we know what wheels they are.

FYI.

GM Accessory:
http://i40.tinypic.com/iycs4m.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v692/Firebomba/sl2.jpg

Mille Miglia:
http://ls1tech.com/forums/attachments/parts-classifieds/345152d1331956815-mille-miglia-wheels-cts-v-04-07-img_0760.jpg
http://www.cadillacforums.com/cadillac-classifieds/data/3/large/DSC04041.JPG

Pics of the wheels....

http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb34/Neversatisfied02/Wheels1.jpg
http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb34/Neversatisfied02/Wheels2.jpg
http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb34/Neversatisfied02/wheels3.jpg
http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb34/Neversatisfied02/Wheels4.jpg
http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb34/Neversatisfied02/wheels5.jpg

Yup,I would have sent them back too... Sorry that happened bro
Pics of the wheels....

http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb34/Neversatisfied02/Wheels1.jpg
http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb34/Neversatisfied02/Wheels2.jpg
http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb34/Neversatisfied02/wheels3.jpg
http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb34/Neversatisfied02/Wheels4.jpg
http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb34/Neversatisfied02/wheels5.jpg

All good man. Shit happens. Told the guy I'd try to sell em first before anything else. I mean with the tires and with fresh Powdercoat, they are worth the money. I just prefer the accessory wheels or I'm going to suck it up and spend the money for those staggered 19's and be done.

I would go through paypal, if your time hasn't expired. If he doesn't respond to the paypal dispute you can get your money back plus keep the rims.
My girlfriend bought me an antique cymbal monkey for a gift, the seller described it as working. When you press on the head is supposed to open its mouth an shake, well that part never worked. It still banged its cymbals and is still cool, so my gf tried contacting the seller saying we would keep it but wanted some money back. After numerous attempts she opened a dispute, the seller never responded, and my gf got her money back plus we got to keep the monkey. Of course the seller contacted us immediately after, wanting us to ship the thing back. But F them, they had plenty of chance to get hold of us.
Kinda off topic, but it only took about 3 weeks I think.
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Lol! That's a cool lil monkey. My time to dispute it hasn't expired. Just trying to make the best of the situation and get my money back out of them sooner than later. I'll prob post them on Craigslist and maybe eBay. I'm sure someone will want them. If nothing happens quick, I'll def be exploring my other options to get my money back.

http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb34/Neversatisfied02/wheels5.jpg

wtf.... fckin sandbagger hahah more pics of the fender and the rest of your car...

http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb34/Neversatisfied02/Wheels4.jpg

black mille's dont look that bad.. im sure they will sell.. hope you recoup the cash$$

Lol! That's not my ride bro. That's the guys car that sold em to me. He sent me those so I could see what the gloss black would look like on silver. They really don't look bad, just not really the look that I'm going for. Someone will buy em though I'm sure.

He said he had the fenders done custom. I'm not a big fan of vents but its different.

haha my bad.. good luck mang

Lol Thanks bud!

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Mexican Rabies?

Even though his misrepresented those wheels, the picture look good enough to tell those arent the accessory wheels, 9 spoke vs 7 spoke? Hope it works out for you in the end.

And for the guy saying keep them and get a refund if he doesnt respond... I dont know how thats possible. Paypal isnt suppose to issue a refund until after you provide them with a tracking number proving you shipped the wrong / damaged item(s) back and it shows as delivered.

Even though his misrepresented those wheels, the picture look good enough to tell those arent the accessory wheels, 9 spoke vs 7 spoke? Hope it works out for you in the end.

And for the guy saying keep them and get a refund if he doesnt respond... I dont know how thats possible. Paypal isnt suppose to issue a refund until after you provide them with a tracking number proving you shipped the wrong / damaged item(s) back and it shows as delivered.

Dunno the ups and downs of paypal but I got a monkey and my gf got her money back.
I figure it's because the seller didn't respond to paypal.

I didn't pay super close attention. He said they were the accessory wheels and I saw gloss black split spokes. I'm sure u can understand how it would be easy to think they were at a quick look on a small pic. Didn't think I had any reason to doubt what he told me.

While I would have seen the difference I certainly don't fault you for not noticing. I have seen those wheels many times over the 3 years I had mine. I still think pink would look sick.

I didn't even realize they made another wheel similar to the accessory wheels for the V so when I saw em, I didn't think anything of it.

Pink would be sick lol

U guys are cute. My sister does wedding cards btw

Isnt the Mille's only 8" wide while the stock wheels are 8.5"? That's why people don't like/buy them.

Didn't check em to be honest. Looked the same as stock to me but I'll check the back of em.

If that's the case though... Thanks for killing the potential for a sale lol jk

They are indeed 8 inch wide, as opposed to the stock 8.5s.

If it's any consolation, it makes them a better wheel for snow tires.

Come on northern guys.... Scoop these up! Surely the Powdercoat will hold up better than the factory finish anyway! :)

They are indeed 8 inch wide, as opposed to the stock 8.5s.

If it's any consolation, it makes them a better wheel for snow tires.

It will also work as a spare tire.

If you break the set, I'll take one.

I'll be more than happy to split em up if I can get enough interest in them individually.

I'd be interested in one also depending on price.

I'd do $220 shipped individually for a wheel/tire

Splitting them now for sure. Seems like more people want them individually for a spare since the 8" width allows them to fit easily in the trunk well.

So come get em...

I'm pretty sure those are MY old wheels! I traded him a Diff for them. I definitely made it clear they were mille miglia rims, too I'm pretty sure he has the only silver v with those fenders. He wanted the mille miglias for the LS fest to show off. Dude was a real show boater, and a big talker lol

Def ur old wheels then cause that describes him perfectly. Lol good to know he knew exactly what he had and lied about em. We're they coated when he got them or did he lie about that too?

no they were stock silver. He told me he wanted to have his buddy powdercoat them real quick so they would be ready for the LS Fest

Oh ok. Makes sense. Interesting lol

Sold one and keeping one for myself. 2 left! I know someone needs a complete spare that'll fit nice in the trunk compartment.

So since it has 265 wide tires doesn't that negate it only being 8 inches wide?

Just giving u a hard time. GL with the rest of sale.

Lol! Yeah... The tire makes it a little wider but either way, this wheel will fit better than a stock wheel. Could always get a slightly narrower used tire if u want more than enough room.