Generation IV External Engine - Head choice poll for my short block




lilicedout24
03-30-2012, 04:39 PM
Ok fellas im in the market for a killer top half for my short block. I have a iron 6.0 forged pistons stock crank and rods. Simple build kits was a deal I couldnt pass up.
Ok Im just looking to get info on who does the best work. Texas speed prc shows better flow numbers and less pricey. Wcch and mast are bout a few hundred bucks difference. But flow numbers are lower then tsp. so I'm asking how could price be higher and numbers lower or am I missing something. I called all 3 companies and I am confused.
So my ? Is who do I buy the heads from? Cheaper tsp bang for buck, or pay extra for others?


Detoxx03
03-30-2012, 05:25 PM
I was gonna do Trick Flow or All Pro on my car

odarabla
03-30-2012, 05:32 PM
I have the trickflows but would get the AllPro's.. They are More than the trickflows but well worth the cost..


lilicedout24
03-30-2012, 05:44 PM
This shit is a head ache. I like trick flow lol. What's the deal I know both of y'all have had fast cars

odarabla
03-30-2012, 05:49 PM
This shit is a head ache. I like trick flow lol. What's the deal I know both of y'all have had fast cars

Don't you mean have fast cars? :D LOL

You still want that cam? I would get the All pro's first and if they aren't in the budget then get the trickflows. I have the trickflow heads 215cnc heads with custom port and valve work done to them.. I bought the heads for my old build (stock bottom end LS1) And did the work to them so they would work better with the new build.. Even Brian Tooley was surprised how well these heads worked with the new motor..

lilicedout24
03-30-2012, 05:49 PM
So is it a name you pay for or performance ?

Detoxx03
03-30-2012, 05:54 PM
Don't you mean have fast cars? :D LOL

You still want that cam? I would get the All pro's first and if they aren't in the budget then get the trickflows. I have the trickflow heads 215cnc heads with custom port and valve work done to them.. I bought the heads for my old build (stock bottom end LS1) And did the work to them so they would work better with the new build.. Even Brian Tooley was surprised how well these heads worked with the new motor..

:nod:

odarabla
03-30-2012, 05:56 PM
So is it a name you pay for or performance ?

Performance.. To me All pro's are the best off the shelf head you can buy. The RHS are good heads along with the TrickFlows.. My car is flying for the motor and weight of it.. I would put my car up against any other pump gas motor that's about the same cubic inch.. You can't go wrong with the Trickflows but if you don't mind spending the extra $$$ To me the AllPros is the way to go!!

odarabla
03-30-2012, 05:59 PM
Like I said before. My car with the stock bottom end motor, Trickflow 215cnc heads milled to 62cc, Futral 232/236-646/612@114LSA stock suspension, full weight (3620lbs) went 10.90@123mph with a 1.46 60ft..

lilicedout24
03-30-2012, 06:07 PM
What I can't figure out if all pro is so good why flow number less then prc at Texas speed. Not being a jerk I'm really looking to figure this out.

lilicedout24
03-30-2012, 06:10 PM
Don't you mean have fast cars? :D LOL

You still want that cam? I would get the All pro's first and if they aren't in the budget then get the trickflows. I have the trickflow heads 215cnc heads with custom port and valve work done to them.. I bought the heads for my old build (stock bottom end LS1) And did the work to them so they would work better with the new build.. Even Brian Tooley was surprised how well these heads worked with the new motor..

Lol yeah y'all right but detox imma kick yo ass when I'm done. And thanks for the help.

odarabla
03-30-2012, 06:16 PM
What I can't figure out if all pro is so good why flow number less then prc at Texas speed. Not being a jerk I'm really looking to figure this out.

Making power isn't all about Flow Numbers.. But companies like trickflow and West Cost cyclinderheads, RHS don't inflate there #'s like some other companies seem to do.. You can make power with the PRC heads but you can make more power with an after market head..

lilicedout24
03-30-2012, 06:35 PM
Ok I got ya. I thought ya need the high flow numbers to make the power well guess I was wrong. Well I know trick flows work but Im leaning towards them all pro unless something change

odarabla
03-30-2012, 06:44 PM
Ok I got ya. I thought ya need the high flow numbers to make the power well guess I was wrong. Well I know trick flows work but Im leaning towards them all pro unless something change


Honestly I don't think you'll be disappointed with either one...

lilicedout24
03-30-2012, 06:57 PM
Yeah. I was wishing people who used both products chime in. Or just pm me. But I'm searching for some videos on you tube

Detoxx03
03-30-2012, 07:09 PM
Lol yeah y'all right but detoxx imma kick yo ass when I'm done. And thanks for the help.

Good luck :devil:

odarabla
03-30-2012, 07:17 PM
Yeah. I was wishing people who used both products chime in. Or just pm me. But I'm searching for some videos on you tube

There was a guy at the track last time out running a Futral 383ci LS1 motor with All Pro heads, th350 tranny, 4.11 gears and a fullweight car with e N20 converter. On motor the car was running 10.35@130mph. On the spray he went 9.43@146mph.. That's flipping rolling..

lilicedout24
03-30-2012, 07:25 PM
Lol you know it's all good bro. Trust me I know you going in to be fast just bring ya juice.
Them all pro's must be the shit. I found a few things I'm reading, but I see mast also puts down the power it's going to be a toss up on these 2 I see this.

Detoxx03
03-30-2012, 09:08 PM
There was a guy at the track last time out running a Futral 383ci LS1 motor with All Pro heads, th350 tranny, 4.11 gears and a fullweight car with e N20 converter. On motor the car was running 10.35@130mph. On the spray he went 9.43@146mph.. That's flipping rolling..

I know the car you are talking about. It sick and that guy used to work with Allan.

lilicedout24
03-31-2012, 01:15 PM
Ok I like the small bore ls7 head. Then I can use a 7 top half good enough for me

KILLERARMY
03-31-2012, 02:49 PM
I'm going with WCCH All Pro 265cc LSW/LS7.........

lilicedout24
04-01-2012, 11:20 PM
I'm surprised people using these heads has not spoke up or even pm'd me yet wow

427 zeo6
04-04-2012, 02:47 PM
ALL PRO! made in USA! Take your chances with some of the others, no one has said anything but, I have to believe their foundry workers on the screaming deal heads don't know a single word of English.

lilicedout24
04-07-2012, 09:35 AM
ALL PRO! made in USA! Take your chances with some of the others, no one has said anything but, I have to believe their foundry workers on the screaming deal heads don't know a single word of English.

I heard somethings also.