Automotive News, Media & Press - Revealed - All-New 2013 Dodge SRT Viper coupe




TriShield
04-04-2012, 12:11 PM
2013 SRT Viper – The Return of the Snake

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Street and Racing Technology (SRT®) brand's flagship performance machine returns with more power and performance, superior craftsmanship, new technologies and creature comforts
Two new models include SRT® Viper and SRT Viper GTS
All-aluminum, mid-engine 8.4-liter V-10 delivers an estimated 640 horsepower and 600 lb.-ft. of torque – the most torque of any naturally aspirated sports car engine in the world
Chassis enhancements bring 50 percent improvement in torsional stiffness
Triple-digit weight reduction results in Viper best power-to-weight ratio
Standard safety features include electronic multistage stability control, traction control and new 4-channel anti-lock brake system (ABS)
All-new, innovative interior designs set new standards with premium materials, new technologies and superior craftsmanship
All-new carbon-fiber and aluminum skin is sculpted for high-speed stability and a slippery .364 drag coefficient (Cd)
Timeless exterior design incorporates iconic Viper styling cues with a contemporary execution


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Auburn Hills, Mich., Apr 4, 2012 - The all-new 2013 SRT® Viper was unveiled to the world today at the New York International Auto Show, marking its highly anticipated return to the high-performance sports car market.

The fifth generation of the iconic two-seat, American-built supercar has been deliberately evolved to incorporate superior craftsmanship, a host of new technologies and ergonomic improvements while respecting its visceral legacy of outright performance.

"After a gut-wrenching period of uncertainty, the Street and Racing Technology brand team is extremely proud that our hand-built in Detroit, flagship supercar is back and ready to take on the performance car world," said Ralph Gilles, President and CEO – Street and Racing Technology Brand and Motorsports, Chrysler Group LLC. "Beyond being the flagship for the new SRT brand, the launch of the 2013 Viper proves that we simply would not let the performance icon of the Chrysler Group die. Willed to live on by a very special group of performance enthusiasts inside the company and across Viper Nation, this SRT team under our new leadership was challenged to not just continue the legendary Viper, but to create a world-class supercar that would showcase the very best we have to offer."

Two new models for any performance buyer

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For the 2013 model year, two new models of the iconic supercar will be hand built at the Conner Avenue Assembly Plant in Detroit – the home for Viper since 1995. Both SRT Viper and SRT Viper GTS models offer new interior and exterior designs incorporating premium materials and new exterior surfaces with aerodynamically functional details that are beautifully integrated into the high-tech carbon fiber and aluminum skin. On the inside, designers and engineers strived to rethink all touch points; and upgrade all material appointments and technologies.

"The SRT Viper model is meant to offer a perfect blend of extreme performance and a deliberate preservation of what has become the iconic DNA of the Viper," Gilles added. "We strove to deliver a supercar that continues to bring the driver as close as possible to the machine."

The SRT Viper GTS builds on the DNA of the SRT Viper model with more technologically advanced solutions, like two-mode active suspension, to allow this world-class GTS to find new limits on the track while also opening up its envelope as a more premium and mature evolution of the classic, extreme performance formula. Designed and built with premium features and materials inside and out, the Viper GTS will compete with the best performance vehicles in the world with a wide range of creature comforts, advanced drivetrain and interior technologies.

"We've purposely evolved the iconic soul and raw performance formula that Viper has maintained over the years," Gilles said. "Our returning customers will see the world-class levels of pride, quality and hand craftsmanship built into the 2013 Viper. With two price classes of the SRT Viper and SRT Viper GTS, we have offerings for both the traditional core Viper customer and for the new customer who wants the same performance in a package with more technology and premium creature comforts."

Awe-inspiring V-10 powertrain

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At the heart and soul of the 2013 SRT Viper is the venerable, hand-assembled 8.4-liter all-aluminum, V-10 overhead-valve engine.

Improvements for 2013 include a new, ultra-high flow and lightweight composite intake manifold, high-strength forged pistons, sodium-filled exhaust valves, new catalysts to reduce back pressure and an aluminum flywheel that reduces reciprocating losses. More than 25 pounds has been shaved from the fully dressed engine.

Preliminary performance ratings for the SRT-engineered V-10 Viper are 640 horsepower and 600 lb.-ft. of torque – the most torque of any naturally aspirated engine in the world.

The Tremec TR6060 six-speed manual transmission has been improved with a shorter throw shifter, closer gear ratios and a final drive ratio that has been shortened to 3.55 from 3.07. The 2013 Viper models will be more engaging to drive and top speed is now achieved through 6th gear with maximum engine speed (redline) at 6,200 rpm.

Outstanding ride, handling and capability

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Starting with a stiffer structure that provides 50 percent more torsional rigidity, the chassis of the 2013 SRT Viper benefits from numerous enhancements – many learned through racing efforts with Viper GTS-R and Competition Coupe models.

Major updates include the addition of a new aluminum "X" brace under the hood that ties the suspension pickup points to the magnesium cowl super casting and contributes to improved torsional rigidity and stiffness. A new aluminum impact beam at the front of the car contributes to overall mass savings and improved weight distribution while providing excellent crashworthiness.

Structurally, many areas of the chassis were reworked to take advantage of new materials, reduce thickness in some areas and reshape components for more structural rigidity in others. The result is an overall weight savings of approximately 100 pounds.

At the rear, the suspension has been re-engineered with the toe link moved forward of the axle for better tow control and dynamic stability.

A new, driver selectable two-mode suspension system, featuring Bilstein DampTronic Select shock absorbers with both street and track settings, is standard on GTS models.

For 2013, SRT Viper models ride on standard Pirelli P Zero, Z-rated tires with substantially improved overall performance, cold weather performance, enhanced overall grip and steering response on a variety of road surfaces while also broadening the performance envelope. An optional SRT Track Package features Pirelli P Zero Corsa, "soft"-tuned, "racing-type" compound tires that improve handling and precision further on the road or the race track.

For the first time, standard safety technologies such as electronic stability control and traction control help to maximize traction performance at virtually any speed and driving environment.

All 2013 Viper models will come with a steering-wheel-mounted launch control switch, allowing for optimal acceleration from standing starts.

Benchmark braking

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Stopping performance for the 2013 SRT Viper is engineered to provide shorter stopping distances, better modulation, improved durability and balanced brake performance without fading under extreme conditions.

Four-piston Brembo brakes with fixed-aluminum calipers, and vented rotors with a diameter of 355 mm by 32 mm, are used at all four corners. Brake calipers are forged and weight optimized by fully machining all surfaces. The calipers are among the stiffest available with distortion from heat nearly eliminated even under the most demanding braking conditions.

The available SRT Track Package features lightweight and slotted two-piece rotors from StopTech.


TriShield
04-04-2012, 12:11 PM
New premium materials, craftsmanship and technologies

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The all-new, driver-oriented interior cabins of the SRT Viper models have been totally revamped for 2013 with superior craftsmanship, premium material appointments and performance-oriented technologies.

For the first time, all major interior surfaces are sewn and wrapped with additional padding applied in comfort areas. On the Viper GTS model, all surfaces are fully leather skinned, and standard accent colors are applied to the seats, doors, center console and stitching.

Quality fit and finish across the lineup is showcased by triple-paint-finished Gun Metal appliqués on the cluster bezel, HVAC outlets, window switch bezels, shifter base, park brake bezel and the integrated passenger grab handle on the center console.

Standard high-performance racing seats from Sabelt feature a lightweight Kevlar/fiberglass shell created by a state-of-the-art resin transfer molding technology for mass reduction and long-term durability. Both driver and passenger enjoy improved comfort from thigh support and deep side bolsters designed to match the extreme lateral acceleration capabilities of the SRT Viper.

Seating position in the 2013 SRT Viper models is 20 mm lower for more room and enhanced performance-driving ergonomics. Seat travel is extended by 90 mm overall, which enables expanded seating options from a more rearward positioned bulkhead. For the first time, seat height can be adjusted by up to 40 mm – manually on the SRT model and power controlled on the GTS.

The new 2013 Viper is the most spacious model in the history of the nameplate. The floor pan and bulkhead have been extended approximately 90 mm to provide improved legroom and more rearward seat track movement.

Designed specifically for the 2013 SRT Viper, the new 7-inch, full-color, customizable instrument cluster display uses a full-time analog tachometer readout in the center to confirm the performance driving feedback philosophy of the Viper. Drivers have a wide range of custom and personal options such as an additional digital speedometer readout just below the tachometer. The vehicle information is clearly communicated with easy-to-understand icons. Intuitively controlled through a simple four-way steering-wheel control, the driver can configure the screens to display the information they desire, easily mixing and matching information.

Uconnect® Access provides new level of connectivity

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The 2013 SRT Viper lineup includes the new, next generation Uconnect® Access in-vehicle connectivity system that provides drivers with access to more information, emergency services, more entertainment and improved graphics.

Viper customers can choose between two Uconnect Media Centers, RA3 and RA4, which provide a range of new features and multiple ways to control media in the vehicle. The system includes an 8.4-inch touchscreen along with a set of hard keys for commonly used functions, including traditional knobs for tuning the radio bands and radio volume. Touchscreen buttons along the bottom of the screen allow drivers to easily access the radio, climate controls, navigation, phone, and new, select, certified applications. The new, highly sculpted steering wheel has a host of finger-tip mounted controls for audio, Uconnect, cruise control (first application) and launch control.

SiriusXM Travel Link also is available with Uconnect, providing premium data services and information to make every trip more efficient. SiriusXM Traffic works with the vehicle's navigation system to display traffic speed and traffic flow information along with accident information to assist drivers in routing around congested areas. An expanded SiriusXM channel lineup includes exclusive programming, including the new SiriusXM Latino channels, an auto industry first.

A range of Harman Kardon® surround-sound systems are available across the SRT Viper lineup that feature the latest in audio system technology. All Harman Kardon audio systems include a high-voltage class D amplifier with tracking power supply and up to 11 channels of amplification. The Harman Kardon system with exclusive Logic 7 surround-sound processing is available in the Viper GTS model with a total of 18-speakers, including four subwoofers located behind the seats. All Harman Kardon systems in the 2013 SRT Viper lineup include high-performance, high-efficiency GreenEdge technology loudspeakers that are extremely light and include rare earth magnets. The magnets inside each speaker ensure efficient speaker operation and enhanced performance. The audio systems operate on 32 volts – so the new and improved sound system achieves more than double the acoustic power of the current system.

Refined evolution of SRT's hallmark – aggressive and functional exterior designs

The all-new, timeless exterior design blends contemporary execution with evolutionary refinement.

All-new carbon-fiber hood, roof, decklid and aluminum door panels are firsts for SRT Viper models resulting in significant weight reduction, improved high-speed stability and a slippery .364 drag coefficient.

The forward-hinged hood carries the redesigned Viper badge – aptly named "Stryker" by the Viper Club of America – positioned in the center; and offers unobtrusive access to several service points and the SRT-engineered V-10 powerplant.

The classical low-stance and the extreme cab rearward proportions that have become the unmistakable silhouette of the iconic supercar, return on the 2013 SRT Viper models along with the dramatic fender "gills" – another traditional Viper design cue that helps to extract heat from the engine compartment.

The 2013 Viper models feature a contemporary take on the traditional "double-bubble" roof configuration that maximizes headroom for the driver and passenger while maintaining a low frontal area – allowing additional room for helmets during recreational competitive driving.

Dual-function, bi-xenon projector headlamps are tightly packaged with white light-emitting diode (LED) daytime running lamps and LED turn signals in a sinister "snake eye" configuration.

Functional "blisters" incorporated into the 70 mm projector headlamp lenses create a three-dimensional view that gives Viper a distinctive glare.

The lower-front grille is purposefully designed as an evolution of the traditional Viper low-profile cooling opening configuration and discretely carries a refined V-shape structure.

The exhaust system continues to exit forward of the rear wheels and now carries further refinement with cast aluminum, sill-mounted exhaust bezels.

For the first time, the 2013 SRT Viper models carry LED taillamps that integrate stop-and-turn illumination in one element. Snakeskin texture in the lens carries the surface work seen in the gills and hood textures. With dark-masked lenses, the horizontal lamps appear dark until the LED elements fire. Each lamp carries 50 LEDs that provide a unified "crystallized" illumination effect.

The five-spoke, forged-aluminum "Rattler" wheel design on the 2013 Viper model is available with fully polished (standard), fully painted Hyper Black or fully painted low-gloss black finishes.

The Viper GTS has a split six-spoke forged-aluminum "Venom" wheel design with three available finishes, including polished face with graphite-painted pockets (standard), fully painted Hyper Black or fully painted low-gloss black.

Available SRT Track Package wheels are ultra-lightweight, track-ready wheels in Hyper Black or matte black finishes.

About SRT

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The Chrysler Group's Street and Racing Technology (SRT) brand uses a successful product development formula featuring five proven hallmarks: awe-inspiring powertrains; outstanding ride, handling and capability; benchmark braking; aggressive and functional exteriors and race-inspired and high-performance interiors to remain true to its performance roots.

The expansion of the SRT vehicle lineup in the 2012 model year features four new products that are world-class performance contenders and bring the latest in safety technologies and creature comforts. These products include the Chrysler 300 SRT8®, Dodge Challenger SRT8 392, Dodge Charger SRT8 and Jeep Grand Cherokee SRT8.

Making its highly anticipated return to the high-performance sports car market in late 2012 is the new 2013 SRT Viper and SRT Viper GTS. The SRT flagship performance machines arrive with more power and performance, superior craftsmanship, new technologies and creature comforts.

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Tainted
04-04-2012, 12:21 PM
I would rape the pope with a broomstick for one of these!

fucking badass!!!


djsanchez2
04-04-2012, 12:52 PM
:lol: It comes with a CF berger mod!

I'll give them some credit, it doesn't looks as bad as the Forza rendering, but man it's a whole new look, not sure if i like it. Either way, glad to have another American powerhouse back.

BAD2000TA
04-04-2012, 12:54 PM
I have found my new car!!!

Seriously, if I could afford it, I'd be all over this. I was, however, expecting more horsepower. The rumors had it over 700, not the 640 is all that bad, but when the GT500 is kicking 650, you'd think they'd bump it up to at least 670-675ish. Oh well, the biggest improvement is the interior. Vastly better and useable. I love it!

bjamick
04-04-2012, 01:02 PM
Best Viper of all time. Awesome.

SSCamaro99_3
04-04-2012, 01:19 PM
I like it.

Edit: Unless I missed it, I wonder what it weighs.

TheHitman
04-04-2012, 01:22 PM
Simply beautiful!

jmurray87
04-04-2012, 01:26 PM
According to Road & Track the pric of the new Viper starts at $120,000.

WS Quick
04-04-2012, 01:27 PM
The power is very impressive for being N/A as the gt500 uses the blower just imagine putting some boost on this monster!!:)

Z Fury
04-04-2012, 01:44 PM
Mid-engine? That has to be a typo...

Tainted
04-04-2012, 01:46 PM
that or either they meant front mid-mounted? Kinda like some of the front engine ferraris and such. engine is in the front of the car, but is placed further back behind the front wheels a-la mid engine?

MuscleCarNut711
04-04-2012, 01:49 PM
Tried to make it look to elegant, too European. I see a lot of Ferrari and Aston in it. Not a fan of that.

jmurray87
04-04-2012, 01:57 PM
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-Ross-
04-04-2012, 02:12 PM
Fucking awesome.

GSus
04-04-2012, 02:26 PM
Absolutely love everything about it!

I find it funny how a lot of folks are bitching while comparing it to other exotic designs...but yet everyone seems to lust over the exotics in other threads. People are going to have to face facts, the viper has ALWAYS been an American super car...all at the same time, being an exotic not only for the folks over seas, but for those here who can't afford it (see haters).

I can't wait to see all nutswinging that's going to happen when the new ferrarivette comes out.

Z Fury
04-04-2012, 02:38 PM
Fucking awesome.

Made by Chrysler, so it has to be garbage. /sarcasm

:lol:

SSCamaro99_3
04-04-2012, 02:51 PM
Fucking awesome.

The more I see it the more I like it. They couldn't just roll out the old body. It shares a lot of the overall styling elements with the old car. Especially in profile. They sharpened the front and rear end, but the flanks and roof scream "Viper". I bet if you stripped the badges off and old and new one, wven the person who does not like cars could see that they belong together.

TriShield
04-04-2012, 03:20 PM
It turned out much, much better than I thought it was going to be.

I would take it over ANY current production Corvette, but then again I felt that way about the prior generation too.

GSus
04-04-2012, 03:20 PM
http://vimeo.com/39653335

I don't know if this has been posted yet or not.

MeentSS02
04-04-2012, 03:28 PM
I like it.

Edit: Unless I missed it, I wonder what it weighs.

100 lbs less than the Gen IV, so it will be around the 3350 mark.

GTOSE
04-04-2012, 03:30 PM
Damn that thing is fucking sexy.

Totally took me by surprise when they unveiled it today.

MeentSS02
04-04-2012, 03:33 PM
A lot of people seem to be bitching about the "only" 40HP/TQ increase over the Gen IV Viper, but it is 100-lbs less, and they also tossed standard 3.55 gears out back instead of the 3.07s the Vipers have been given for years. This thing will scoot, and it will definitely scoot along faster than any production Viper before it, and with the nannies on board, will also probably kill fewer of its owners.

skorpion317
04-04-2012, 03:35 PM
It seems to have lost some of the "Viper-ness" the older models had. The older models had a raw, bare-knuckle brawler look and feel to them. This model is more European. The front end reminds me of a Ferrari (575 Maranello, maybe?), while the rear reminds me of Aston Martin. The side profile is definitely Viper, but that's lost when viewed from other angles.

GM better crank up the boost on the ZR1.

GTOSE
04-04-2012, 03:36 PM
That car is worlds ahead of the previous generation viper, and that was a pretty good car to begin with. I applaud SRT for doing such a thing.

MeentSS02
04-04-2012, 03:41 PM
It seems to have lost some of the "Viper-ness" the older models had. The older models had a raw, bare-knuckle brawler look and feel to them. This model is more European. The front end reminds me of a Ferrari (575 Maranello, maybe?), while the rear reminds me of Aston Martin. The side profile is definitely Viper, but that's lost when viewed from other angles.

GM better crank up the boost on the ZR1.

That you stated that means they achieved their design goal - they wanted to make a car that would appeal to a broader crowd, which is one that isn't as interested in the bare-knuckle, "I'll kill you if you touch my gas pedal" experience.

MuscleCarNut711
04-04-2012, 03:51 PM
I find it funny how a lot of folks are bitching while comparing it to other exotic designs...but yet everyone seems to lust over the exotics in other threads. People are going to have to face facts, the viper has ALWAYS been an American super car...all at the same time, being an exotic not only for the folks over seas, but for those here who can't afford it (see haters).

It depends on the character of the car...the Viper was always brash, and the styling doesn't fit the character of the car. Even sissied out now, it still has an 8.4 L lump under the hood, hardly civilized.

Z Fury
04-04-2012, 03:55 PM
http://vimeo.com/39653335

I don't know if this has been posted yet or not.

That video and the interior video on the same link were very cool to see.

BAD ASS TA WS6
04-04-2012, 04:00 PM
Vast improvement throughout. Interior is incredible, aluminum/carbon fiber body, etc. I like that they kept the 8.4L Gen 4 design and improved it top to bottom. This will be a 650+ wheel HP car with bolt ons, and the development won't take much time at all.

That said, I'm still going for an '08+ ACR once prices level.

Also, its been posted the base price will be around $95k for the base model Viper as opposed to the $120k base posted above.

Detoxx03
04-04-2012, 04:04 PM
It's stunning without a doubt. Can't wait to see one in person and how they respond to mods.

z28pat
04-04-2012, 04:35 PM
Awesome looking, just enough of the old viper ( best looking until now) but updated, and nEw interior, too.
May "only" be 640 hp but vipers seem to get a lot out of performance because of their hp/weight ratio, hope this one is not too heavy.

ramairroughneck
04-04-2012, 06:29 PM
Too bad it still sounds like a UPS truck

WSsick
04-04-2012, 07:54 PM
I thought these were funny, adding the Nurburgring and Laguna Seca into the cockpit.

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WSsick
04-04-2012, 07:56 PM
Looks great from every angle but the front, not totally sold on it yet but maybe once I see it in person.

Looks scream Ferrari F12 to me.

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GSus
04-04-2012, 08:00 PM
It depends on the character of the car...the Viper was always brash, and the styling doesn't fit the character of the car. Even sissied out now, it still has an 8.4 L lump under the hood, hardly civilized.

I don't necessarily disagree with you. The viper however has always had sexy lines...enough for me to go as far as saying styling ahead of its time (in comparison to what was available for the time).
In the '90's it was a kick in the gut panty dropper. As of April 4th, nothing has changed.

I respect everyone's opinion; I just don't understand calling it sissied out (maybe if it had a flappy paddle automatic) lol

chaman
04-04-2012, 08:12 PM
Looks so incredibly awesome. I thought I read somewhere of an automatic transmission option?

mac62989
04-04-2012, 08:27 PM
Wow just wow!

Cole Train
04-04-2012, 08:41 PM
i like it, not sure on the front of it but i like the side profile, rear and the interior is a HUGE upgrade :)

LS1LT1
04-04-2012, 08:46 PM
Mid-engine? That has to be a typo...that or either they meant front mid-mounted? Kinda like some of the front engine ferraris and such. engine is in the front of the car, but is placed further back behind the front wheels a-la mid engine?Yes that's exactly what they meant, it is essentially a front-mid engine design (as is a Corvette as well). :nod:





A lot of people seem to be bitching about the "only" 40HP/TQ increase over the Gen IV Viper, but it is 100-lbs less, and they also tossed standard 3.55 gears out back instead of the 3.07s the Vipers have been given for years. This thing will scoot, and it will definitely scoot along faster than any production Viper before it, and with the nannies on board, will also probably kill fewer of its owners.I agree, lots of improvements/performance increases there. :nod:

GSus
04-04-2012, 09:15 PM
Now I want to become a mod, so I can get my ls1tech issued viper.

TransAmWS.6
04-04-2012, 09:30 PM
I think this is literally the BEST looking car I've ever seen, my GOD. :drool::drool:

I'll have to ride down to a Dodge dealer and see it in person when it's released. I'm predicting the Corvette's will have their hands full with this one.

LEO
04-04-2012, 09:36 PM
SRT really out did themselves with this one. The absolute best Viper yet! :cheers:

It'llrun
04-04-2012, 10:33 PM
Now that I see the DODGE version, it looks entirely as I'd hoped. This new Viper is simply stunning.

The mention of boost added to it sounds great... but I'm betting it has fairly high compression and won't like boost as much as the GT500. It already has a massive engine though, which helps immensely in the power department.

XxGarbSxX
04-04-2012, 11:42 PM
Fucking awesome.

Listening to the guy in the video talk about the car, I get the feeling that this is going to be like the Lamborghini Aventador (see Top Gear). If it's too good around the corners, it'd lose some of the appeal. It's not really a Viper unless it tries to kill you every now and then, like how Richard Hammond compared the Aventador to other V12 Lambos.

LEO
04-05-2012, 12:33 AM
Fucking awesome.

Listening to the guy in the video talk about the car, I get the feeling that this is going to be like the Lamborghini Aventador (see Top Gear). If it's too good around the corners, it'd lose some of the appeal. It's not really a Viper unless it tries to kill you every now and then, like how Richard Hammond compared the Aventador to other V12 Lambos.

:huh: The Vipers own the production car record at the Nurburgring, they handle very well. They may not be as easy to drive as a GTR or Z06, but their handling, braking and acceleration are all top notch.

Nick V.
04-05-2012, 12:45 AM
I would rape the pope with a broomstick for one of these!

fucking badass!!!

i second that.

this almost makes me forget that most vettes exist.....

so who want to sell me theirs? :D

Latch
04-05-2012, 12:52 AM
Holy shit that's sexy... do want.

It's amazing to think that in 2012 and $4+ gas prices they still make a muscle car with an 8.4 liter engine... incredible.

RPM WS6
04-05-2012, 02:00 AM
Wow, that's really nice. And that's a big complement from me, because I hate most new cars.

Dodge probably sells more new models that I like than any other brand at the moment. Charger/Challenger/Viper are all great looking cars IMO. Only thing new that excites me from GM is the Corvette.

DoggyB22
04-05-2012, 03:39 AM
Damn CAN NOT WAIT until we get this Viper hitting the streets along with the C7 Corvettes :drool: Major props... Looks bad ass! Finally they made the interior look really nice in quality. Along with getting rid of all the gauges! I like that the taillights look like an updated version of the 1996-02 Vipers

I wonder if the ACR will look like those race version pics???? :)

-Ross-
04-05-2012, 08:08 AM
Made by Chrysler, so it has to be garbage. /sarcasm

:lol:

LOL!

:angel:

MuscleCarNut711
04-05-2012, 08:56 AM
:huh: The Vipers own the production car record at the Nurburgring, they handle very well. They may not be as easy to drive as a GTR or Z06, but their handling, braking and acceleration are all top notch.

How does the non-ACR viper fair though? I know the ACR has everything going for it.

ChaseSS
04-05-2012, 10:57 AM
absolutely gorgeous... I love it.

1ltcap
04-05-2012, 11:38 AM
8 liter v-10 still less power than the supercharged 5.8 liter. :D

Z Fury
04-05-2012, 11:56 AM
NA 8 liter v-10 still less power than the supercharged 5.8 liter. :D

I've bolded the important parts. I'd rather have the V-10.

1CAMWNDR
04-05-2012, 12:51 PM
Me likey!

mac62989
04-05-2012, 12:53 PM
8 liter v-10 still less power than the supercharged 5.8 liter. :D

I've bolded the important parts. I'd rather have the V-10.

This made me LOL..

Nightrydass
04-05-2012, 01:15 PM
It is an amazing machine, but idk, having all those "nanny" saftey features kind of kills what the Viper really was; don't you think? It really fit the name "Viper" (fuck around with the deadly snake, disrespect it, and it'll "bite" you). It was a raw car, a drivers car.


Damn Government...

1ltcap
04-05-2012, 01:18 PM
I've bolded the important parts. I'd rather have the V-10.

i'd still take the supercharged v8.

the new vipers bodystyle is beautiful. my problem is that i never could stand the sound that those v-10's make.

Z Fury
04-05-2012, 01:33 PM
It is an amazing machine, but idk, having all those "nanny" saftey features kind of kills what the Viper really was; don't you think? It really fit the name "Viper" (fuck around with the deadly snake, disrespect it, and it'll "bite" you). It was a raw car, a drivers car.


Damn Government...
According to some of the interviews, a lot of the nanny features can be turned off to get back to the original feel of the Viper. I think that is cool, and helps the car appeal to a wider market.
i'd still take the supercharged v8.

the new vipers bodystyle is beautiful. my problem is that i never could stand the sound that those v-10's make.
I can understand that. :cheers:

Wnts2Go10O
04-05-2012, 02:37 PM
LOL!

:angel:

actually.. its built by FIAT with Alfa notes:secret2::engarde::D

Wnts2Go10O
04-05-2012, 02:39 PM
How does the non-ACR viper fair though? I know the ACR has everything going for it.

the ACR is also a winged up race car with license plates.


the ACR belongs in the category with the Zonda-R.

MuscleCarNut711
04-05-2012, 03:05 PM
the ACR is also a winged up race car with license plates.


the ACR belongs in the category with the Zonda-R.

That was my point.

Wnts2Go10O
04-05-2012, 03:29 PM
That was my point.

just reenforcing it... yea thats it :jest::emb:

LEO
04-05-2012, 05:06 PM
8 liter v-10 still less power than the supercharged 5.8 liter. :D

Your intelligence is amazing. :eyes:

LEO
04-05-2012, 05:11 PM
the ACR is also a winged up race car with license plates.


the ACR belongs in the category with the Zonda-R.

The ACR has a full interior, upgraded suspension and brakes. The hard core package deletes 40 lbs, I think that removes the stereo system and maybe a/c, IIRC.

I've seen plenty of ACR's driven on the street, the motors are the same and so they have excellent driveability.

gocartone
04-05-2012, 05:54 PM
WOW! This is the first Viper I've liked since the original GTS!! Looks AWESOME, FUUUU and your overpriced ZR1 GM, this is what a $100k should look like on the inside! Hand sanded and buffed paint job on them as well, unreal! I think they just hit a home run with this car, hopefully this pushes GM into making a $100k car that's actually worth it (full package car vs a performance car with a Cobalt interior). I don't know how anyone will be able to pick a $130k version of a $50k car when they can spend ~$120k on the GTS Viper and get a unique car with a wicked interior.

Looks so incredibly awesome. I thought I read somewhere of an automatic transmission option?

You read wrong.

i'd still take the supercharged v8.

the new vipers bodystyle is beautiful. my problem is that i never could stand the sound that those v-10's make.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CTaTY-n0A9g

You just need the right setup on them.

BrntWS6
04-05-2012, 06:47 PM
Love everything about it. Looking forward to getting my ass kicked by one.

jbridwelltransam
04-05-2012, 08:06 PM
I'm flat out in Love with this thing.

Tainted
04-05-2012, 08:26 PM
the ACR is also a winged up race car with license plates.


the ACR belongs in the category with the Zonda-R.

The zonda R not only is not street legal, but also not allowed in almost every race as well according to top gear.

So id have to say they shouldnt be in the same class.

It'llrun
04-05-2012, 09:03 PM
I've bolded the important parts. I'd rather have the V-10.Have you seen the economy of that V10? Besides, why would you want the more expensive engine when it hasn't actually proven better than the smaller one? Don't get me wrong here, I'd REALLY like to have a new 2013 Viper myself and I'd not suggest an engine swap the engine to anything else, but I would get that car for what it is whereas I'd get the Shelby GT500 or the Corvette ZR1 for what they CAN be. :D

MeentSS02
04-05-2012, 09:18 PM
Have you seen the economy of that V10? Besides, why would you want the more expensive engine when it hasn't actually proven better than the smaller one? Don't get me wrong here, I'd REALLY like to have a new 2013 Viper myself and I'd not suggest an engine swap the engine to anything else, but I would get that car for what it is whereas I'd get the Shelby GT500 or the Corvette ZR1 for what they CAN be. :D

22 Highway / 13 City? Granted, those were the Gen IV numbers, but not bad for 600HP. Last I checked, that's a little better than a ZR1 on the highway, and a little worse in town. I don't think that's horrible for an 8.4L engine.

gocartone
04-05-2012, 09:28 PM
Have you seen the economy of that V10? Besides, why would you want the more expensive engine when it hasn't actually proven better than the smaller one? Don't get me wrong here, I'd REALLY like to have a new 2013 Viper myself and I'd not suggest an engine swap the engine to anything else, but I would get that car for what it is whereas I'd get the Shelby GT500 or the Corvette ZR1 for what they CAN be. :D

I believe I read this car has forged internals; the 96-99 Vipers with forged internals would regularly hit 1000whp on the stock motor. I would say that is pretty proven! I would almost bet there are more 1000whp+ Vipers than there are Corvettes, even though there are tons more Corvettes sold than Vipers.

As far as fuel economy, who cares?? It's on par with similar cars; and someone spending $100k on a car isn't, and shouldn't, be worrying about the cost of gas.

It'llrun
04-05-2012, 11:25 PM
22 Highway / 13 City? Granted, those were the Gen IV numbers, but not bad for 600HP. Last I checked, that's a little better than a ZR1 on the highway, and a little worse in town. I don't think that's horrible for an 8.4L engine.I don't think it's horrible for a V10, but where does it stand against the 650hp(670 we now hear) 5.8L in the GT500? One of these cars doesn't get the guzzler penalty. :devil:

I believe I read this car has forged internals; the 96-99 Vipers with forged internals would regularly hit 1000whp on the stock motor. I would say that is pretty proven! I would almost bet there are more 1000whp+ Vipers than there are Corvettes, even though there are tons more Corvettes sold than Vipers.

As far as fuel economy, who cares?? It's on par with similar cars; and someone spending $100k on a car isn't, and shouldn't, be worrying about the cost of gas.I'm not arguing the V10 isn't capable. Clearly it is. That said, the 5.4 and 5.8L is pretty stout as well, and has a few advantages that are nice. Most notably, an expansive aftermarket and a less expensive one at that. I think it's just that the following for the Mustang is so much bigger. The Mustang has used forged internals in the Cobra(then GT500) since... at least 2003.

I'd much rather have a Viper, but that has nothing to do with price.

You're right that those who can afford the Viper won't be concerned about fuel economy. My point was to say, that V10 may make nearly the same power, but it's not very efficient in the process... simply pointing out the Mustang is more efficient. I do wonder if a S/C would lower the Viper economy, or just increase power! :D

1ltcap
04-06-2012, 08:12 AM
WOW! This is the first Viper I've liked since the original GTS!! Looks AWESOME, FUUUU and your overpriced ZR1 GM, this is what a $100k should look like on the inside! Hand sanded and buffed paint job on them as well, unreal! I think they just hit a home run with this car, hopefully this pushes GM into making a $100k car that's actually worth it (full package car vs a performance car with a Cobalt interior). I don't know how anyone will be able to pick a $130k version of a $50k car when they can spend ~$120k on the GTS Viper and get a unique car with a wicked interior.



You read wrong.



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CTaTY-n0A9g

You just need the right setup on them.


i'll check the vid tonight. the work computer doesn't seem to like youtube........

one of my buddys has two vipers. a 2000 coupe, and a 2006 ragtop. the ragtop puts down around 1k hp. he loves them. they are beautiful cars. he even sold his 68 goat, but kept these.

TriShield
04-06-2012, 12:14 PM
http://media.il.edmunds-media.com/non-make/fe/fe_40212132_717.jpg

http://media.il.edmunds-media.com/non-make/fe/fe_4021286_717.jpg

http://media.il.edmunds-media.com/non-make/fe/fe_4021287_717.jpg

http://media.il.edmunds-media.com/non-make/fe/fe_40212134_717.jpg

HNNNNNG

chaman
04-06-2012, 12:15 PM
Trying to type with one hand is hard....

garner
04-06-2012, 12:18 PM
I really wish there would be even more horsepower but I love it! And the fuel economy is similar to a challenger 392 so not too bad

BAD ASS TA WS6
04-06-2012, 12:23 PM
LOL economy. Who the Fuck are you guys kidding? If you have to argue about the cost of gas you need to get out of the car game and get yourself a nice little '87 CRX HF.

What a joke

ss1129
04-06-2012, 12:26 PM
Ummm this car is obviously going to shit all over the gt500 even with 650 hp. Why are people so dumb?

Tainted
04-06-2012, 12:28 PM
If you just bought an 8.4l V10 with 640hp i hope mpg wasnt one of your concerns.

garner
04-06-2012, 12:30 PM
Ummm this car is obviously going to shit all over the gt500 even with 650 hp. Why are people so dumb?

If it can get traction. 335 pirelli p zero? Yeah I don't think that was a good tire decision especially since the old vipers had 345

Z Fury
04-06-2012, 12:45 PM
If it can get traction. 335 pirelli p zero? Yeah I don't think that was a good tire decision especially since the old vipers had 345

I thought they said 355 in a video... Maybe I mis-heard.

Z Fury
04-06-2012, 12:49 PM
Have you seen the economy of that V10? Besides, why would you want the more expensive engine when it hasn't actually proven better than the smaller one? Don't get me wrong here, I'd REALLY like to have a new 2013 Viper myself and I'd not suggest an engine swap the engine to anything else, but I would get that car for what it is whereas I'd get the Shelby GT500 or the Corvette ZR1 for what they CAN be. :D

To this I'll respond with "to each his own."

If I can afford a $100K car, I doubt I care which engine costs more to work on. Also, there's no denying the Shelby will have better gas mileage. FI on smaller motors usually wins the MPG wars over bigger cube NA motors - thus all the manufacturers moving to turbo-4s instead of 6-cylinder NA engines. Power when you need it, economy when you stay out of it.

I'd be more than happy to add a blower to this new Viper also (as I'm dreaming). :D

garner
04-06-2012, 12:56 PM
I thought they said 355 in a video... Maybe I mis-heard.

You're correct, 355. Buddy said 335. But just read the autoblog article and it is indeed 355

MeentSS02
04-06-2012, 12:57 PM
If it can get traction. 335 pirelli p zero? Yeah I don't think that was a good tire decision especially since the old vipers had 345

It will use a 355 rear, not a 335.

Edit: you already figured that out.

redbird555
04-06-2012, 03:31 PM
I gotta say when I first heard that they were coming out with stability and traction control in the new vipers I was dissapointed because a viper should scare you when you mat pedal in any gear.... But I gotta say I love this new one. 40 more hp and added all of the creature comforts most of us want while still dropping 100lbs of the scale whats not to like?

The cool thing from what I was reading is that buyers can either choose a GTS model or the SRT the gts will be a more luxurious, smoother driving and more refined car. While the SRT will be like the original viper we're all used to brute power and force...

FocusVince
04-06-2012, 04:12 PM
I may have found my dream car. Its BEAUTIFUL!!!! :O

Detoxx03
04-06-2012, 04:45 PM
Screw gas mileage I can't wait to see the first one of these that will be TT. You have a forged 8.4L V10 with 355's (P Zero's or not) so it will be a monster to run against. I'm sure Stacey Barnett or SW will have one of these out at TX2K13 (if available beforehand) whopping ass.

Mr. Trick
04-06-2012, 06:52 PM
That is sick color. Kinda weird looking though.

Z Fury
04-06-2012, 07:06 PM
This makes me want a Viper so bad. Any year. I just want a Viper now.

Won't happen though. I need a car that can handle DD duties, and I don't think the Viper would enjoy that too much (in the rain, etc.).

CranMaro99
04-06-2012, 08:26 PM
Are there seriously people arguing about poor fuel economy on a super car? Are you fucking kidding me? If you can't afford the gas then theres no way in hell you can afford the car, lol!

1ltcap
04-06-2012, 08:30 PM
Ummm this car is obviously going to shit all over the gt500 even with 650 hp. Why are people so dumb?



it's gonna shit all over anything on the street. the only thing that will truly have a chance against it will be the top end corvettes.

distortion_69
04-06-2012, 08:44 PM
Amazing execution. My only prob with vipers is the insane costs of modding, but if your plans were to keep a car stock, this would be a good one.

TriShield
04-06-2012, 09:26 PM
Five Questions with Ralph Gilles about the 2013 Viper

http://www.blogcdn.com/www.autoblog.com/media/2012/04/040412wilssensnyiassrthr0111-opt.jpg

AB: The new design is pure Viper, but it seems to have some influence from those Italian super cars. What's the percentage of the Viper that's American, percentage that's Italian?

Gilles: Maybe five percent Italian. The seats, the seats are the same supplier as Ferrari. It's all American. Done inside, done outside, it's all all American.
AB: You've raced Vipers before. How has your experience on the track influenced the changes made to this car?

Gilles: It allowed us to have a conversation with our motor sport side. They brought in the racing technology, like the X brace for example. That comes straight from the ACR-X, and our Competition Coupe and our GTS-R history. We know our chassis so well, we know its, quote, unquote, weak points, and we took care of all of that. A lot of that came from racing and putting stress on it.

As a driver, to me I think, it's taken me almost a decade to figure out how to drive that car, and I love driving it. But it shouldn't have to take a decade, you know? The new car, the mission for (the development) team, was to make it so that any one can extract the best out of this car. It still has a bite to it, but it's subdued. But I'll tell you, this car is incredible, you wear this car, you don't manage it, you wear it.

AB: The previous Viper had some idiosyncrasies such as the hot exhaust pipe that could burn you when getting out and the loud and hot transmission tunnel, how were those issues addressed?

Gilles: We have a cast tip instead of the actual tip on the exhaust, so people won't get that kiss, that famous Viper kiss anymore.

The previous car had no sound deadening in the past. So now we've added a very lightweight high tech sound deadening material in the tunnel that is also a heat manager. It allows the cockpit to be a much more hospitable place, keeping the bad (noise) out but keeping the engine note and letting the good noises in.

AB: When is the roadster coming?

Gilles: We don't talk about future product.

AB: How are you going to get people to stop referring to it as the Dodge Viper?

Gilles: I'm not too worried about it. I think over time, It'll take some time, a long time. People usually refer to it as the Viper. Just the Viper. It's become iconic that way. I'm not too worried about it.

I'm more worried about talking to SRT owners as a group. I really see this as essential to our entire SRT brand.

You have to talk to that performance enthusiast community separately than we talk to our regular customers. Especially now, more than ever.

AB: (Bonus question) Was that a Barracuda behind you during the 60 Minutes piece?

Gilles: I can't say what it was, but It wasn't exactly a Barracuda. It was a student model of a certain car that was a derivative of our L (platform). That's all it was, a student model.

http://www.autolinedetroit.tv/journal/wp-content/uploads/2007/12/autoblog_logo_new_web.jpg (http://www.autoblog.com/2012/04/06/five-questions-with-ralph-gilles-about-the-2013-srt-viper/)

Irunelevens
04-06-2012, 11:47 PM
Ummm this car is obviously going to shit all over the gt500 even with 650 hp. Why are people so dumb?

Pretty sure nobody was saying anything otherwise... :confused:

Edit: Oh and btw, fucking INCREDIBLE looking car. Total package, absolutely gorgeous :drool:

JHL88
04-07-2012, 07:57 AM
its not great, its not horrible. idk can't put my finger on it

TriShield
04-10-2012, 11:05 AM
Viper Powertrain, Handling and Design

http://blogs.insideline.com/straightline/assets/Viper%20videos.jpg

By Mike Magrath | April 9, 2012

Now that the snake is out of the bag, it's SRT's job to keep the fire stoked until people actually get to drive the car sometime in the next six months. Not that the task should be terribly hard, this thing weighs 3,297 pounds and has 640 horsepower from an 8.3-liter V10; if SRT didn't say a word about the car ever again we'd still be telling our grand kids about it in 50 years. (Immediately after we tell them what gasoline was and that yes, in the old days cars didn't drive themselves.)

Thankfully, SRT isn't going to ignore us for the next few months and they've started off on the right foot by providing 4 videos talking in depth about the new Viper. Each video tackles a separate area of the Viper -- Powertrain, handing, design and the Viper program -- from the Viper team's POV. Well worth the time investment.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GMAhrigYk0g

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9SZxsSz6cCo

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cy6RbJYbU54

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_BI_HIpR3uE

jimmy169
04-10-2012, 02:41 PM
The most exciting thing is vipers are somewhat affordable (at least compared to Italian super cars worth the price of two houses). I hope this will be under 100k, can't wait to see it go up against godzilla. Looks like Chevy has a real challenge for the next corvette design.

It'llrun
04-10-2012, 03:11 PM
I don't see under 100k happening for this new Viper in any configuration.

-Ross-
04-10-2012, 04:11 PM
I predict $117k.

You're still getting a lot of car for the money.

GTOSE
04-10-2012, 04:25 PM
Forged internals <3

It'llrun
04-10-2012, 04:59 PM
I predict a base closer to 101-103k. I would hope $117k gets the best... most highly optioned. I may like this car more than the Corvette when it's over, but for now, I'd rather get the ZO6 with my hard-earned cash. Once I see how this one performs and holds up, I may have a change of heart. It is a beautiful thing...

whytryz28
04-10-2012, 05:37 PM
I predict $117k.

You're still getting a lot of car for the money.

I say $125k

DoggyB22
04-10-2012, 05:55 PM
I say they need to price it in the Corvette range..... One of the reasons why no one bought Vipers. Price was WAY to damn much. But I guess its quality is a lot better then before so were see?

garner
04-10-2012, 06:15 PM
I say they need to price it in the Corvette range..... One of the reasons why no one bought Vipers. Price was WAY to damn much. But I guess its quality is a lot better then before so were see?

Vipers are also hand built compared to production line. Plus they were better corvettes in every year except for around 06 when the z06 got 505 hp and then 09 or whenever the zr1 came out with 638 hp compared to the viper's 600 hp

TransAmWS.6
04-10-2012, 09:05 PM
I say they need to price it in the Corvette range..... One of the reasons why no one bought Vipers. Price was WAY to damn much. But I guess its quality is a lot better then before so were see?

That's probably not going to happen. With the way things are looking, this seems like it might be out of the Corvette's league. We will see though with the debut of the C7.

rad23
04-10-2012, 09:33 PM
looks like a mix between a slr and a austin martin, looks awsome though!!! ill buy one right after i win the lottery

XxGarbSxX
04-11-2012, 03:21 AM
looks like a mix between a slr and a aston martin, looks awsome though!!! ill buy one right after i win the lottery

Fixed. Seriously, that annoys me more than Camero.

Aston:
http://o.aolcdn.com/commerce/images/astonmartin_11dbscoupe_angularfront_Regular.jpg

Austin:
http://www.seriouswheels.com/pics-1960-1969/1963-Austin-Healey-3000-MK2-BJ7-black.jpg

TriShield
04-11-2012, 10:50 AM
I say they need to price it in the Corvette range..... One of the reasons why no one bought Vipers. Price was WAY to damn much. But I guess its quality is a lot better then before so were see?

Nobody buys new Corvettes right now.

LS1LT1
04-11-2012, 04:35 PM
Nobody buys new Corvettes right now.That's not even remotely true.
I'm sure you didn't mean that literally of course, and yes new Corvette sales are obviously well down from their peak. And even the ones that are selling are doing so because of some strong incentives/rebates, but there are probably still more Corvettes being sold per month than there were 'last gen' Vipers sold in their entire final year of production.
That's not saying much of course because they're essentially two different types of cars marketed to different types of clientele but still, please try and think first before you post. ;)

MeentSS02
04-11-2012, 08:17 PM
That's not even remotely true.
I'm sure you didn't mean that literally of course, and yes new Corvette sales are obviously well down from their peak. And even the ones that are selling are doing so because of some strong incentives/rebates, but there are probably still more Corvettes being sold per month than there were 'last gen' Vipers sold in their entire final year of production.
That's not saying much of course because they're essentially two different types of cars marketed to different types of clientele but still, please try and think first before you post. ;)

Considering there were 507 2010 Vipers made, that wouldn't be too hard to believe, and there are still some that never sold.

gocartone
04-12-2012, 04:09 PM
If it can get traction. 335 pirelli p zero? Yeah I don't think that was a good tire decision especially since the old vipers had 345

Even if it was running 335s it wouldn't have ANY problem getting traction when it needs it. That's the same size tires the ZR1 has, but the Viper has a much better 49/51 front/rear split vs the 52/48 of the ZR1. Viper>>>>>>>>Corvette when it comes to traction, and that's how it has always been.

bad2000z
04-14-2012, 11:58 AM
I came. Twice.

MeentSS02
04-22-2012, 09:08 AM
Looks like somebody spotted a yellow one rolling around:

http://youtu.be/LKou33bjnII

It'llrun
04-22-2012, 11:22 AM
The Viper looked outstanding... The camera angle, not so much! :lol:

Guitar
04-22-2012, 12:19 PM
Never understood what type of fucking idiot turns the camera sideways. Those lights also look retarded.

TransAmWS.6
04-22-2012, 08:52 PM
Man, those lights look badass when illuminated, I love it, car is so nasty.

LS1-450
05-02-2012, 04:02 PM
There's a write up w/ pics in the June Road & Track, as well.

TriShield
05-03-2012, 03:55 PM
Ferrari Boss "Speechless" About 2013 Viper, Says Chrysler's Marchionne

http://media.il.edmunds-media.com/srt/viper/2013/ns/2013_srt_viper_f34_ns_502121_717.jpg

By Anita Lienert, Correspondent | Published May 2, 2012

Just the Facts:

Ferrari Chairman Luca Cordero di Montezemolo was "speechless" after he got up-close-and-personal with the 2013 Viper recently, according to Chrysler boss Sergio Marchionne in a Detroit radio interview on Tuesday.
"For Ferrari to admit that the car is a unique vehicle is a hell of a compliment," Marchionne said.
Ferrari and Chrysler are owned by parent company Fiat.

DETROIT — Ferrari Chairman Luca Cordero di Montezemolo was "speechless" after he got up-close-and-personal with the 2013 Viper recently, according to Chrysler boss Sergio Marchionne in a Detroit radio interview on Tuesday.

"The car is a superb machine," Marchionne, the chairman and CEO of the Chrysler Group, told WJR-AM radio, according to a transcript of the interview posted on the Chrysler Web site. "I had the chairman of Ferrari down here for the board meeting last week and he had a chance to look at the car, and he was speechless. I mean, for Ferrari to admit that the car is a unique vehicle is a hell of a compliment to the work that's gone on here. So I'm delighted. I mean, so far, knock on wood, we're doing well."

Marchionne did not refer to the Ferrari chairman by name, only by title. Ferrari and Chrysler are controlled by corporate parent Fiat.

The new Viper debuted last month at the 2012 New York Auto Show. Production is expected to begin later this year at Chrysler's Connor Avenue assembly plant in Detroit.

NW-99SS
05-03-2012, 05:49 PM
Ferrari Boss "Speechless" About 2013 Viper, Says Chrysler's Marchionne

By Anita Lienert, Correspondent | Published May 2, 2012

Just the Facts:

Ferrari Chairman Luca Cordero di Montezemolo was "speechless" after he got up-close-and-personal with the 2013 Viper recently, according to Chrysler boss Sergio Marchionne in a Detroit radio interview on Tuesday.
"For Ferrari to admit that the car is a unique vehicle is a hell of a compliment," Marchionne said.
Ferrari and Chrysler are owned by parent company Fiat.

DETROIT — Ferrari Chairman Luca Cordero di Montezemolo was "speechless" after he got up-close-and-personal with the 2013 Viper recently, according to Chrysler boss Sergio Marchionne in a Detroit radio interview on Tuesday.

"The car is a superb machine," Marchionne, the chairman and CEO of the Chrysler Group, told WJR-AM radio, according to a transcript of the interview posted on the Chrysler Web site. "I had the chairman of Ferrari down here for the board meeting last week and he had a chance to look at the car, and he was speechless. I mean, for Ferrari to admit that the car is a unique vehicle is a hell of a compliment to the work that's gone on here. So I'm delighted. I mean, so far, knock on wood, we're doing well."

Marchionne did not refer to the Ferrari chairman by name, only by title. Ferrari and Chrysler are controlled by corporate parent Fiat.

The new Viper debuted last month at the 2012 New York Auto Show. Production is expected to begin later this year at Chrysler's Connor Avenue assembly plant in Detroit.

Probably because he didn't want to publicly declare his distaste in having a sister company steal their front end design.

Don't get me entirely wrong, this is the best looking Viper since the 96 GTS, but to say the front doesn't scream Ferrari F12 + Aston is like trying to say that 2Vs are fast:judge:

DoggyB22
05-07-2012, 12:59 AM
So SRT re-entering the American Le Mans Series with the Viper! Can't wait for the C7 & this Viper to compete!!!

DoggyB22
08-20-2012, 09:38 PM
Look what my friends spotted today up in the mountain... ;)

http://a3.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/329557_10150977249801377_2107305731_o.jpg
http://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-snc6/202604_10150977250756377_1664531431_o.jpg
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Irunelevens
08-20-2012, 09:41 PM
Fuuuuck me sideways that is beautiful :drool: :hail:

LS1LT1
08-21-2012, 02:31 AM
Damn, they really are spectacular looking (and awesome performing) cars. :cool:

Any word on final MSRP yet, or info on the base (non GTS) version?

DoggyB22
08-21-2012, 02:59 AM
I heard $100k+ :eyes: the one thing Chrysler/Dodge failed in with the Viper is making it affordable & having base versions of the Viper that were in the base C6 price range

firebird99
08-21-2012, 03:35 AM
I'll take mine in blue please...:burn:

mac62989
08-21-2012, 10:18 AM
I heard $100k+ :eyes: the one thing Chrysler/Dodge failed in with the Viper is making it affordable & having base versions of the Viper that were in the base C6 price range

Agreed. I once heard someone say a base with a hemi V8 would be perfect to be a more affordable option. It was the greatest idea I ever heard..

-Ross-
08-21-2012, 10:34 AM
Agreed. I once heard someone say a base with a hemi V8 would be perfect to be a more affordable option. It was the greatest idea I ever heard..

That would be cool. An SRT8 version with a 490ish hp 392 Hemi for around $80k would probably sell rather well. I still couldn't afford one though. Haha.

BanditTA
08-21-2012, 10:50 AM
They look awful in those photos, they looked amazing when the initial release came out, those don't do much for me now. The front end looks like an Aston Martin.

Irunelevens
08-21-2012, 10:59 AM
They look awful in those photos, they looked amazing when the initial release came out, those don't do much for me now. The front end looks like an Aston Martin.

You're crazy. :judge:

MeentSS02
08-21-2012, 11:28 AM
I heard $100k+ :eyes: the one thing Chrysler/Dodge failed in with the Viper is making it affordable & having base versions of the Viper that were in the base C6 price range

It has always been a limited production vehicle not meant for the masses. If they wanted to offer watered down versions that were more affordable, they'd lose a good portion of their original customer base, which is actually pretty important to the guys that are still running the show. The Viper is not a high profit margin car, and Chrysler/SRT would be pretty dumb to try and keep their company going with such an impractical car.

If you don't like the price, there's always the used market...

BAD2000TA
08-21-2012, 12:31 PM
They look awful in those photos, they looked amazing when the initial release came out, those don't do much for me now. The front end looks like an Aston Martin.And that's a bad thing???

I think they look great. I think the ass-end looks awesome, too! That black one looks like it belongs in my garage!!!

bamalt1
08-21-2012, 01:32 PM
It has always been a limited production vehicle not meant for the masses. If they wanted to offer watered down versions that were more affordable, they'd lose a good portion of their original customer base, which is actually pretty important to the guys that are still running the show. The Viper is not a high profit margin car, and Chrysler/SRT would be pretty dumb to try and keep their company going with such an impractical car.

If you don't like the price, there's always the used market...

^^^This. Vipers are and always have been special, limited production cars and they need to stay that way. The ones in the pics are beautiful. Now that they have nice interiors I wonder what car mags will find wrong with them so Porsche still wins the comparisons.

garner
08-21-2012, 01:48 PM
Not really feeling the roof. But there's no point in making a $50k viper to be in the price range of a base c6. And I doubt pricing will be over $100k for the base models. Most likely around $85-90k like it was when they went out of production

mac62989
08-21-2012, 02:14 PM
That would be cool. An SRT8 version with a 490ish hp 392 Hemi for around $80k would probably sell rather well. I still couldn't afford one though. Haha.

Ya that would still be too much lol

-Ross-
08-21-2012, 03:48 PM
They look awful in those photos, they looked amazing when the initial release came out, those don't do much for me now. The front end looks like an Aston Martin.

Low quality photo of dirty cars, parked on uneven pavement in bad light.

I think they look great.

Tainted
08-21-2012, 05:49 PM
They are total tits end of story

DoggyB22
08-21-2012, 10:05 PM
I love the back of them! The headlights ehh... I think the 3rd & 4th gen looked a lot more aggressive. But the race version of the SRT Viper :drool:

http://a5.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/460123_10150712520649707_43023849706_9285237_11915 26622_o.jpg
http://a3.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/466989_10150712522289707_338553261_o.jpg

whytryz28
09-07-2012, 12:25 AM
Love it

Pipelayaz
09-08-2012, 08:08 PM
Bad ass!! I hope the Corvette Team does as good of a job or better.

NW-99SS
09-09-2012, 02:47 PM
As a Corvette fan, I having a harder and harder time not wanting to look at this car, it is just so nicely executed! I'm not head over heels on the front of the car, but from any other angle, it is just perfect! Here's hoping the C7 ZR1 is as exciting :cheers:

mikh338
09-09-2012, 02:55 PM
id do very bad things to own this car lol

MeentSS02
09-10-2012, 04:44 PM
DETROIT -- The 2013 SRT Viper will be Chrysler Group's most expensive production vehicle ever but still cheaper than a comparable Chevy Corvette ZR1 when sales begin late this year.
Chrysler told dealers today that the 640-hp Viper will carry a sticker price of at least $99,390, including a $1,995 delivery charge. The Viper GTS will start at $122,390, including delivery.
With optional equipment -- a more powerful audio system, upgraded infotainment system, or additional carbon fiber trim and styling components, for example -- and a likely gas-guzzler surcharge, the re-engineered Viper should easily top the $100,000 plateau.
Ralph Gilles, head of the SRT brand and Chrysler Group's head of design, was scheduled to show off the new Viper to dealers during a private meeting today in Las Vegas.
The 2013 Viper, introduced in April at the New York auto show, has an 8.4-liter V-10 engine that generates 600 pounds-feet of torque. The new Viper weighs 100 pounds less than the automaker's last version of the sports coupe, which ended production in 2010 and carried a sticker price of $90,255, before freight charges and gas-guzzler tax.
The 2013 Viper's pricing makes it less expensive than the Chevrolet Corvette ZR1, which has nearly the same horsepower and torque as the Viper. The ZR1 carries a sticker price of $113,575 with delivery and includes a $1,000 gas-guzzler tax.
The Viper's price doesn't yet reflect a gas-guzzler tax because its fuel-economy numbers aren't yet available.
Chrysler plans to build only about 2,000 Vipers a year, and dealers will have to pay a one-time fee of $25,000 and undergo Viper-specific training for the right to sell the powerful two-seaters. Gilles estimates that only 15 to 20 percent of Chrysler-Jeep-Dodge-Ram dealers will sell them nationwide.
The delivery charge for all Vipers is more than double that of Chrysler's other vehicles. However, all Vipers will travel from the company's Conner Avenue assembly plant in Detroit directly to the ordering dealer through a covered, point-to-point trucking carrier, and not by rail, Chrysler said.
Viper production is scheduled to begin in November, Gilles said.
Chrysler's current most-expensive vehicle is a Ram 3500 heavy-duty pickup. A fully loaded version lists for $67,915, including freight

DoggyB22
09-10-2012, 08:07 PM
Chrysler Group LLC announced pricing for the 2013 SRT Viper & Viper GTS-R $97,395 & $120,395 for the hardcore GTS-R :confused: either way.... Like I've been saying the Viper will damn near be $100k for the base version.

First reviews of the 2013 SRT Viper

http://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/2013-srt-viper-viper-gts-coupe-first-drive-review


640 hp
600 lbtq
3300 lbs
0-60 3.4 secs
1/4 mile 11.7
Top speed 206 mph
13 city/18 hwy

bamalt1
09-11-2012, 02:02 AM
MT 1st drive here http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/1209_2013_srt_viper_first_drive/track_laps_and_specs.html Predicting a 1:34 around Laguna Seca

Z Fury
09-11-2012, 08:58 AM
I just can't get over how amazing the interior is on this new version.

DoggyB22
09-11-2012, 10:18 PM
^^^ Yea its about time with the Viper.....

LS1LT1
09-12-2012, 12:18 AM
Ok, starting at under $100k, a little better than I'd expected. :)

firebird99
09-12-2012, 02:47 PM
Ok, starting at under $100k, a little better than I'd expected. :)

Yeah like those select few dealers are going to let any of them off the lot for that price. IMO the mark up will high for a long time.

LS1LT1
09-13-2012, 03:04 AM
Yeah like those select few dealers are going to let any of them off the lot for that price. IMO the mark up will high for a long time.Likely true.
But in time, one should be able to buy the base car for MSRP (or maybe even less).

TORK?
09-16-2012, 01:40 PM
oh lawd jezus I want one. Can't wait to watch vids of them racing vs new C7's in the next year

DoggyB22
10-01-2012, 02:15 PM
Guess it was only a matter of time before Hennessey built another 2013 Venom 1000 :drool:

http://jalopnik.com/5947932/hennesseys-2013-venom-1000-twin-turbo-has-1120-horsepower-and-eats-bugattis-for-lunch?utm_campaign=socialflow_jalopnik_facebook&utm_source=jalopnik_facebook&utm_medium=socialflow

The last Hennessey Venom 1000 twin turbo SRT Coupe
http://www.tuningnews.net/news/051101b/hennessey-srt-10-viper-venom-1000.jpg