View Full Version : What in the mother of f#*%s happened here?!


colt_impala
04-10-2012, 08:55 AM
To make a long story short, I bought a 98 v6 camaro cheap because it needed a fender, nose and a headlight. I noticed a horrible noise when I hit bumps in the road with it. I pulled the tire off on the drivers side and find this. Anyone had this happen? and how do I fix it?

BMR Sales2
04-10-2012, 09:01 AM
When they installed the shock/spring/strut mount assembly they left out the strut bearing insulator plate which spreads the load out in the mount and the shock pulled right through the mount. If you pick up a new strut mount and strut bearing insulator plate you should be able to fix that pretty easily.Here is a picture of the piece that was left out and where it goes on the mount.

colt_impala
04-10-2012, 09:24 AM
Awesome. And thanks for the info. What's one of those cost? will I need a new shock as well?

CamaroSS27
04-10-2012, 09:42 AM
Damn that doesnt look pretty!

DarkblueTA
04-10-2012, 09:54 AM
I would check rockauto.com. for the parts that you need to correct this issue. As far as shocks, give Sam Strano a call. Bilsteins for 379 is a damn good price.

BMR Sales2
04-10-2012, 11:08 AM
Awesome. And thanks for the info. What's one of those cost? will I need a new shock as well?

Check rockauto.com for the strut mount and the insulator plate. Honestly if it was me I would just try to reuse the shock you have becasue it shouldn't really be damaged from the strut mount failure.

BMR Tech2
04-10-2012, 11:47 AM
That is if the shock piston rod hasn't been bent. If it hasn't bent, you should be OK to reuse it.

oChristiano
04-10-2012, 12:11 PM
Hehe reminds me of when I decapitated one of my Koni DA's.

colt_impala
04-10-2012, 05:08 PM
Yea it looks straight. I'm selling the car so I'm not concerned about putting new shocks on if I can help it.

01ssreda4
04-10-2012, 05:30 PM
Wow, shadetree mechanics :bang:

SparkyJJO
04-10-2012, 06:27 PM
The insulator is only like 5 bucks from rock auto.

Get the moog mounts and moog plate. Any brand plate will work, really, but the moog is the least expensive. No other brand but Moog and OEM mounts seem to fit properly, so don't bother with the others.

Moog K6573 is the plate, Moog K6516 is the driver side mount, and Moog K6517 is the passenger side mount.

I would take apart the other side to be sure it isn't missing the plate also.

BRDMAN
04-10-2012, 11:30 PM
Damm, that looks crazy. I cant believe some one would cheap out on delicate suspension parts like that.....

BMR Sales2
04-11-2012, 10:35 AM
We have been seeing this happen more regularly which kind of suprises me. The insulator plate is very important to spreading out the load on the strut mount and it has to be installed or else this issue will happen.

LE35thSS
04-11-2012, 12:33 PM
lol holy shit

colt_impala
04-14-2012, 09:50 AM
I'm noticing 2 bolts that come with part number K6573. What exactly do those 2 bolts go to? Anyone have a diagram of the assembly?

gi8e7oi825
04-20-2012, 10:33 AM
My new MOOG shock mounts and insulator (aka isolator) plates from RockAuto came yesterday, and you're right... they come with new bolts AND nuts. Two of each, so now I have 8 bolts (stamped as 8.8 grade). I'm pretty certain they're intended for bolting the entire shock/strut assembly onto the frame.

sscamaroburn02
04-20-2012, 02:14 PM
wow first time i've ever seen that happen.

heymoej
04-20-2012, 02:22 PM
Wow, shadetree mechanics :bang:

with out the shade..............
them boys must of been in a hurry, the sun was burn there brain cells. :mullet:

ZexGX
04-20-2012, 02:29 PM
I have seen this happen even from reputable shops, because the people they hire to work on cars are a little less than average intelligence.

IceHammer
04-20-2012, 02:36 PM
Wow I've never seen this kind of failure, thats awesome. I'm kind of surprised that the spring decided to stay put after that. Make sure you check the other side for that retainer plate, they probably did both wrong.

LS1121
04-20-2012, 06:32 PM
I bought mine at Advance, Monroe and with the discount code you can't them any cheaper, and oh yes they fit Perfectly.....what a load of CRAP....only moog fit good.

libertyforall1776
04-21-2012, 03:43 PM
Don't trust all automotive shops, in my old '95 Camaro, the same thing happened, and I am certain they didn't install that dogbone shaped part either. There are a lot of incompetent mechanics -- you have to know what they know and more to ensure they are doing a job right half of the time. :(

Another thing, if you have the GM Shock Mount, BE SURE TO GET THE GM DOGBONE, as the other ones from other vendors are NOT the right size and are smaller -- the on eNAPA sells does NOT fit right in the GM mount, for instance -- it is smaller. Ask me how I know. ;)

lt16spd1
04-21-2012, 06:50 PM
Just a heads up be damn careful pulling that spring out, the strut's not holding it compressed anymore, so use those spring compressers..... coil springs under pressure are no bullshit

stroked383HSR
04-22-2012, 09:18 AM
LOL.....I love the Thread title!......cracked me up!


good luck on your problem