Street Racing & Kill Stories - Nelson Racing Vs. UGR




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Koondog
04-12-2012, 01:35 AM
So these are my two favorite group of builders, for obvious reasons.

My question is, why haven't they set up a race? Why have we not seen any of Nelsons cars at the TX2K12? Someone has to have to balls to run one of these monsters on the street.

Sorry if this is posted in the wrong section.


ohioborn80
04-12-2012, 02:16 AM
Some guys not into street racing. He pretty much called them out for the standing mile and beat them all and set a new record even. I think he made his point.

Koondog
04-12-2012, 04:21 AM
Some guys not into street racing. He pretty much called them out for the standing mile and beat them all and set a new record even. I think he made his point.

I dont care where or how they do it. I just wanna see it.


flattusmaximus78
04-12-2012, 06:36 AM
Wow, this is one gay post :usa:.

Tracked350Z
04-12-2012, 09:19 AM
UGR has the technology needed to win I think. I know Nelson racing has built hundreds of drag cars. But that's it. Drag cars. A standing mile car is built a little differently than a 1/4 mile car. UGR Specifically built these from the getgo to destroy the mile. They have a lot more experience in the mile. I'd say UGR would get the kill.

ScreaminRedZ
04-12-2012, 09:27 AM
Wow, this is one gay post :usa:.

Why did you make the post then? :poke:

SloWhipz
04-12-2012, 09:36 AM
I doubt they would agree to race, Both shops have nothing left to prove, And are very repuatable to begin with. Why put that on the line?

NOLAG05
04-12-2012, 10:29 AM
I see what your saying SloWhipz but you can take that logic and apply to drag racing or road course cars... Chevy and Ford compete all season long to see who is better... Thats the fun of racing in my eyes... Braggin Rights is what i like to call it!

ohioborn80
04-12-2012, 11:12 AM
UGR has the technology needed to win I think. I know Nelson racing has built hundreds of drag cars. But that's it. Drag cars. A standing mile car is built a little differently than a 1/4 mile car. UGR Specifically built these from the getgo to destroy the mile. They have a lot more experience in the mile. I'd say UGR would get the kill.

They why doesn't ugr have the fastest standing mile car if they would get the win?

Tracked350Z
04-12-2012, 01:26 PM
They why doesn't ugr have the fastest standing mile car if they would get the win?

Lol. They did until the Ford GT destroyed their speed. They held the record for 2 years straight. What does that have to do with Nelson? It was performance power who built the GT. UGR is not too far behind. They're in the 250 mph range.

liqidvenom
04-12-2012, 10:42 PM
I see what your saying SloWhipz but you can take that logic and apply to drag racing or road course cars... Chevy and Ford compete all season long to see who is better... Thats the fun of racing in my eyes... Braggin Rights is what i like to call it!

what does Chevy and Ford compete in all season long?


also UGR is focused on building fast exotics for a certain type of client.

Nelson is focused on build great motors for all sorts of wild vehicles, trophy trucks, rx-7s etc.

neither really compete in anything similar. Most of UGR kits are done on a stock motor ( such as their gallardo kits).

Camaro_94
04-12-2012, 11:11 PM
I dont think either of them really care about it. They both build very awesome, but very different rides for their customers. They've both proven themselves to be some of the most bad ass shops out there. They dont need to race eitherother for bragging rights either, since theyre both building sick cars.

garner
04-13-2012, 01:22 AM
That's like asking why don't hennessey, heffner, and UGR have a race between their vipers. There's no reason, they're all proven shops with what they do

GTOSE
04-13-2012, 04:21 AM
They're both too busy making a shit ton of coin?

NOLAG05
04-13-2012, 11:26 AM
Its just a statement about companies that compete... Some people like Mustangs and some like Camaros... I don't know if most of UGR kits on the Gallardos are on stock blocks. 1500-1900hp on a stock V10 is a bit much. Who twin turbo's a 200K+ car and leaves the motor stock?


what does Chevy and Ford compete in all season long? Nascar, NHRA, Sprint cup cars


also UGR is focused on building fast exotics for a certain type of client.

Nelson is focused on build great motors for all sorts of wild vehicles, trophy trucks, rx-7s etc.

neither really compete in anything similar. Most of UGR kits are done on a stock motor ( such as their gallardo kits).

adamantium
04-13-2012, 11:59 AM
They're both too busy making a shit ton of coin?

brb let me go stop sales for today of our line up of high dollar parts or engine packages to go do some shitty mile race.

Yeah OP that definitely sounds logical to me.

2SSARME
04-13-2012, 12:34 PM
brb let me go stop sales for today of our line up of high dollar parts or engine packages to go do some shitty mile race.

Yeah OP that definitely sounds logical to me.

lol x5

V8EATR
04-13-2012, 01:59 PM
brb let me go stop sales for today of our line up of high dollar parts or engine packages to go do some shitty mile race.

Yeah OP that definitely sounds logical to me.


^ thats one way to look at it but another way would be to show off your product in competitive events. Also that whole bragging rights thing is fun to do sometimes as well. You don't have to live at the "texas mile" but it certainly doesn't hurt to bring out a shop car and show everyone what it can do. I think it would be neat to have those two places go head to head but I completely understand if they don't as well.

Tracked350Z
04-13-2012, 05:32 PM
brb let me go stop sales for today of our line up of high dollar parts or engine packages to go do some shitty mile race.

Yeah OP that definitely sounds logical to me.

Won't lie, but UGR definitely is out in the local community. I follow their videos everywhere. UGR is definitely out running the highways after work. 6speedonline has a UGR rep and he can confirm. Also they were trying to setup a run with a US AMS GTR but I don't know what happened with that. They definitely get out and run.

Its just a statement about companies that compete... Some people like Mustangs and some like Camaros... I don't know if most of UGR kits on the Gallardos are on stock blocks. 1500-1900hp on a stock V10 is a bit much. Who twin turbo's a 200K+ car and leaves the motor stock?


I'm pretty sure they are stock blocks until 1000 hp. For the race tune (1500 rwhp) it's a forged block. I remember watching a video commenting on the price. Had john von talking about them running his busa and trying to get the SW Lambo to run some Supra.

BigBirdLS1
04-13-2012, 10:28 PM
Today I saw a UGR built twin turbo viper today at the shop that did my head swap. It was BADASS too bad it had a rod knocking...this was not at the UGR shop either if UGR is that good why aren't they fixing the viper themselves.

Tracked350Z
04-13-2012, 11:28 PM
Today I saw a UGR built twin turbo viper today at the shop that did my head swap. It was BADASS too bad it had a rod knocking...this was not at the UGR shop either if UGR is that good why aren't they fixing the viper themselves.

Where do you live? Maybe the place who did your heads installed the turbo kit. Maybe there isn't a UGR shop close enough. Maybe the block decided to let go from too much power (since the newer SRT-10's do not have forged internals) and it's at that specific shop because they know Vipers.

BigBirdLS1
04-13-2012, 11:44 PM
Where do you live? Maybe the place who did your heads installed the turbo kit. Maybe there isn't a UGR shop close enough. Maybe the block decided to let go from too much power (since the newer SRT-10's do not have forged internals) and it's at that specific shop because they know Vipers.


I'm in AL so I'm guessing that there isn't a UGR shop near me. I personally am not sure it WAS a UGR Viper its only what the people that worked at the shop told me. It was twin turbo and I don't know what caused the rod knock.

whytryz28
04-13-2012, 11:56 PM
Nelson is boss

liqidvenom
04-14-2012, 12:28 AM
Today I saw a UGR built twin turbo viper today at the shop that did my head swap. It was BADASS too bad it had a rod knocking...this was not at the UGR shop either if UGR is that good why aren't they fixing the viper themselves.

maybe the owner couldnt afford to go back to ugr...thats a possibility

Camaro_94
04-14-2012, 12:39 AM
Today I saw a UGR built twin turbo viper today at the shop that did my head swap. It was BADASS too bad it had a rod knocking...this was not at the UGR shop either if UGR is that good why aren't they fixing the viper themselves.

Are you kidding me? You don't even know the whole story behind it, but yet you're quick to throw someone under the bus.

Shit happens when you mod a car. Nothing is "bullet proof". I could walk into a shop and tell them to bump my nitrous up to a 500 shot... Even the best LSX shop out there, but when it blows up, is it the shops fault? Or mine for telling them to do it?

You don't know the whole background on the situation, so instead of bad mouthing a very reputable shop, how about you get your facts together first... And then post. You don't know what's wrong with the car and why it's not back at UGR.

06vLo
04-14-2012, 01:11 AM
Heres your answer for the engine inquiries....


Directly from ugr's site...


Stage 1 Turbo System with Stock Engine
650 WHP on pump gas (93 octane)
850 WHP on race fuel (VP-C16 117 octane)
2004-2008 Gallardo models at $35,000*
2009-2010 LP560-4 models at $39,000

Stage 2 Turbo System with Modified Engine
850 WHP on pump gas (93 octane)
1150 WHP on race fuel (VP-C16 117 octane)
2004-2008 Gallardo models at $65,000*
2009-2010 LP560-4 models at $69,000

Stage 3 Turbo System with Modified Engine
1000 WHP on pump gas (93 octane)
1250 WHP on race fuel (VP-C16 117 octane)
2004-2008 Gallardo models at $89,000
2009-2010 LP560-4 models at $94,000

Race Version Turbo System with Highly Modified Engine
1050 WHP on pump gas (93 octane)
1500 WHP on race fuel (VP-C16 117 octane)
All Gallardo models starting at $109,000

SalvageZ28
04-14-2012, 02:35 AM
i belive LMR's camaro beat Ugr's mile record=)

Slo1SS
04-14-2012, 04:49 AM
Big birdLS1(Matt?), hey man good to hear from a fellow Culver customer, lol. I'm from the area and I'm at Lane's shop ALL the time. I saw the UGR Viper you're talking about. From what I could gather, the rod knock was because the guy had been driving it around whit the bottom end making a noise for a while and it finally let go. Not a UGR problem if hes on one of the lower boost kits. As UGR does't touch the rotating assembly unless you get upin the high hp kits.

Also, to my knowledge, UGR NEVER had the standing mile record. Before the Hennessy GT got it this last time, there was a shop called perfromance power that had a TT GT. They had the record at like 253mph. Before that it was SW's Black Supra at 246mph

liqidvenom
04-14-2012, 11:18 AM
i belive LMR's camaro beat Ugr's mile record=)

Most of the UGR cars at the texas mile are just customers taking their vehicles there with UGR showing up to walk them through it. I dont think they have any actually purpose built mile cars.

BigBirdLS1
04-14-2012, 12:05 PM
Big birdLS1(Matt?), hey man good to hear from a fellow Culver customer, lol. I'm from the area and I'm at Lane's shop ALL the time. I saw the UGR Viper you're talking about. From what I could gather, the rod knock was because the guy had been driving it around whit the bottom end making a noise for a while and it finally let go. Not a UGR problem if hes on one of the lower boost kits. As UGR does't touch the rotating assembly unless you get upin the high hp kits.

Also, to my knowledge, UGR NEVER had the standing mile record. Before the Hennessy GT got it this last time, there was a shop called perfromance power that had a TT GT. They had the record at like 253mph. Before that it was SW's Black Supra at 246mph



Yeah that was me. For the record I never meant to throw UGR under the bus. All I meant was UGR built it and it has a rod knocking that was all I knew. I thought that it was a "shop" car and they didn't want or could fix it so they sent here. I had no idea that it was a customer car that UGR built and of course UGR has no control over what happens to it after the customer picks it up and no control where they take it to be fixed. I meant no harm I apologize.

I will say this that Viper is in good hands up at Lane's.

BTW Slo1SS is this Monte? I'm betting you are.

Slo1SS
04-14-2012, 01:16 PM
That's me sir ;)

BigBirdLS1
04-14-2012, 01:40 PM
That's me sir ;)

Sweet man when we gonna get together and run...you're going down. My car is gonna :barf: all over your car man. LOL I'm just kidding talking a lil friendly trash.

DoggyB22
04-14-2012, 05:17 PM
Some guys not into street racing. He pretty much called them out for the standing mile and beat them all and set a new record even. I think he made his point.

:judge:

UGR has the technology needed to win I think. I know Nelson racing has built hundreds of drag cars. But that's it. Drag cars. A standing mile car is built a little differently than a 1/4 mile car. UGR Specifically built these from the getgo to destroy the mile. They have a lot more experience in the mile. I'd say UGR would get the kill.

:lock::lock::lock::ban::ban::lock::lock:

TheHitman
04-14-2012, 05:19 PM
Isn't this why a lot of these legal airstrip roll racing events are created? They can run from a dig or roll to truly see who's faster.

Slo1SS
04-14-2012, 09:27 PM
Sweet man when we gonna get together and run...you're going down. My car is gonna :barf: all over your car man. LOL I'm just kidding talking a lil friendly trash.

Well with 75 more whp before the bottle you should walk me pretty hard. But i bet its harder for you to get around me from a dig than you think lol. I hook on the street too ;). Once I get my cam and heads on, thats gonna be it for you on motor tho, lol. Who know's, I might find a button too lol.....

SalvageZ28
04-16-2012, 01:30 AM
The 2 fastest cars at the texas mile are the tt gt and that lmr 4th gen camaro=)

Tracked350Z
04-16-2012, 08:05 PM
i belive LMR's camaro beat Ugr's mile record=)

They did. UGR has gone a best of 250.1 in spring 2010 and the LMR Camaro went 253.

Big birdLS1(Matt?), hey man good to hear from a fellow Culver customer, lol. I'm from the area and I'm at Lane's shop ALL the time. I saw the UGR Viper you're talking about. From what I could gather, the rod knock was because the guy had been driving it around whit the bottom end making a noise for a while and it finally let go. Not a UGR problem if hes on one of the lower boost kits. As UGR does't touch the rotating assembly unless you get upin the high hp kits.

Also, to my knowledge, UGR NEVER had the standing mile record. Before the Hennessy GT got it this last time, there was a shop called perfromance power that had a TT GT. They had the record at like 253mph. Before that it was SW's Black Supra at 246mph

In 2009 it was SW's Supra with a 246.2. 2010 UGR beat that with the 250.1 and the Ford GT following very closely behind with a 249.1.

The 2 fastest cars at the texas mile are the tt gt and that lmr 4th gen camaro=)

Which is true. I wouldn't be surprised if UGR comes back this year with some serious heat. Also the Supra club isn't too far behind and once AMS gets a good enough gear set the GTR will be a monster.

All this information is here at the texas mile official website.

http://www.texasmile.net/records.php

F-Body_4_Life
04-16-2012, 09:05 PM
One mile drag race... :lol:

jbhotrod
04-19-2012, 08:01 PM
Just wait til the Dagger GT comes, if anyone buys it Im sure it will eventually get around to racing some TT Gallardos and smoking them. 632ci TT, your choice of 2000-2700hp, weighs in at around 2500lbs, oh yeah and NRE built the engine.

liqidvenom
04-19-2012, 09:25 PM
I think what really makes the 1200-1500 gallardos so quick is their awd. most of the races i see online are from a roll.