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06X6spdGTO
04-15-2012, 10:45 AM
Well got my email for the 2012 COPO Camaro. We ordered the 327/4.0Whipple model.

Heres the list lets hear what everyone has to think?!?!

GENERAL INFORMATION:
�� NHRA horsepower ratings:
o 327/4.0L supercharged– 550
o 327/2.9L supercharged – 500
o 427 Naturally aspirated – 425
�� NHRA shipping weights:
o 327/4.0L – 3175 lbs
o 327/2.9L – 3250 lbs
o 427/N/A – 3195 lbs
�� Recommended max engine RPM - 7500
CHASSIS:
�� Chrome-moly cage – NHRA certified to 8.50 ET
�� Subframes tied together
�� Front engine cradle modified to accept additional oil pan clearance
�� Rear subframe modified to accept unique COPO NHRA Stock Eliminator suspension
REAR SUSPENSION:
�� 4-bar with adjustable top links
�� Adjustable panhard link
�� Double-adjustable Strange Engineering coil over shocks
�� Anti-roll bar
FRONT SUSPENSION:
�� Adjustable Strange Engineering coil over struts
�� Sway bar removed
STEERING:
�� Production steering gear modified for manual (non-assist) operation
BRAKES:
�� Light-weight vented rotors
�� Billet 4-piston light-weight calipers
�� Light-weight tandem master cylinder
�� OEM pedal modified to mount master cylinder
�� All components provided by Strange Engineering
WHEELS:
�� Bogart Racing light-weight with unique COPO logo
�� Forged outer ring
�� Billet center
�� 15” x 10” rear – 5/8” studs
�� 15” x 3.5” front – 1/2” studs
�� 4 – 3/4” bolt circle pattern
TIRES:
�� Rear - 9” x 30” x 15” radial slick
�� Front – 4.5” x 28” x 15” – drag-only

GEARS & AXLES:
�� Strange Engineering 9” aluminum center section
�� Light-weight steel spool
�� Strange 9310 alloy 4.29 ring & pinion set
�� Strange Engineering 35-spline axles
�� Strange Engineering chrome-moly yoke
DRIVE SHAFT:
�� 4” OD x .125” wall 6061-T6 aluminum tube
�� Chrome-moly end caps
�� Forged chrome-moly slip yoke
�� Heavy-duty 1350 universal joints
TRANSMISSION:
�� ATI Racing Products “Pro Glide”
o SFI-approved ATI “Super Case”
o 1.80 ratio 9310 straight cut gear set
o Precision balanced carrier with 4340 tool steel output shaft
o Turbo spline input shaft:
�� 327/4.0L – Vasco material
�� 327/2.9L and 427 – 300M material
o 7 clutch high gear pack
o Billet clutch hub
o High flow front pump with heat-treated pinned stator tube
o Deep aluminum pan
o Hard Chrome Rings
o Fluid overflow catch can
TORQUE CONVETER:
�� ATI Racing Products “Treemaster MRT” Series
o 327/4.0L – 9” diameter housing
�� Furnace brazed impeller and turbine fins
�� Precision pump drive tube
�� Heavy duty needle bearings
�� 22 element sprag with dual cage construction
�� 327/2.9L and 427 – 8” diameter housing
�� Furnace brazed impeller and turbine fins
�� Precision pump drive tube
�� Heavy duty needle bearings
�� Investment Cast Cover
SHIFTER:
�� Hurst “Quarterstick” – 2-spd. automatic
o Forward pattern
o Built-in neutral safety switch
o Light-weight aluminum cover

327 ENGINE:
�� Chevrolet Performance “LSX” cast iron block with steel main caps
�� 4.065” bore x 3.150” stroke
�� Static compression ratio – 10:1 nominal
�� Callies 4340 crankshaft – double-keyed snout
�� Callies 4340 H-beam “Ultra” rods
o 6.350” length
o .928” pin bore diameter
�� Clevite H-Series heat-treated tri-metal rod & main bearings
�� Mahle 2618 alloy forged domed pistons
o Graphal coating
o Hard-anodized top ring groove
o Friction-coated skirts
�� Mahle .043” x .043” x 3mm piston rings
o Ductile iron top with radius molybdenum face
o Plain cast iron tapered 2nd
o Chrome-plated oil rails with low-tension expander
�� Comp Cams steel billet hydraulic roller camshaft
o Duration – 246°/254° @ .050” lift
o Theoretical valve lift - .630”/.630”
o Lobe centers – 117°
�� Valvetrain:
o Chevrolet Performance “Ceramic Ball” high-RPM hydraulic roller tappets
o 3/8” diameter LS7 pushrods
o 1.8:1 ratio LS7 rocker arms with roller trunions
o PSI “Max Life” beehive valve springs
o Hardened steel spring seats
o Light-weight steel retainers
�� Fully CNC’ed aluminum cylinder heads – based on LS7
o 275 cc nominal intake port volume
o 89 cc nominal exhaust port volume
o 70 cc nominal combustion chamber volume
o Del West titanium intake valves – 2.200” head diameter x 7mm stem
o Light-weight sodium-filled exhaust valves – 1.610” head diameter x 7mm stem
�� Fel-Pro Performance multi-layer steel head gaskets with raised cylinder sealing bead
�� Internal wet sump oil pump
�� Deep-sump cast aluminum oil pan – 6 quart capacity
�� ATI Performance Products SFI-approved damper – 10-rib shell
�� Whipple twin-screw supercharger
o 327/550 – 4.0L
o 327.500 – 2.9L
�� Whipple billet throttle body
o 327/500 – 172mm oval blade
o 327/500 – 109mm round blade

427 ENGINE:
�� Chevrolet Performance LS7 aluminum block
�� 4.125” bore x 4.00” stroke
�� Static compression ratio – 13:1 nominal
�� Callies 5140 crankshaft
�� Callies 4340 H-beam rods
o 6.100” length
o .928” pin bore diameter
�� Clevite H-Series heat-treated tri-metal rod & main bearings
�� Mahle 2618 alloy forged domed pistons
o Graphal coating
o Hard-anodized top ring groove
o Friction-coated skirts
�� Mahle .043” x .043” x 3mm piston rings
o Ductile iron top with radius molybdenum face
o Plain cast iron tapered 2nd
o Chrome-plated oil rails with low-tension expander
�� Chevrolet Performance steel billet hydraulic roller camshaft
o Duration – 233°/276° @ .050” lift
o Theoretical valve lift - .630”/.630”
o Lobe centers – 107°
�� Valvetrain:
o Chevrolet Performance “Ceramic Ball” high-RPM hydraulic roller tappets
o 3/8” diameter LS7 pushrods
o 1.8:1 ratio LS7 rocker arms with roller trunions
o PSI “Max Life” beehive valve springs
o Hardened steel spring seats
o Light-weight steel retainers
�� Fully CNC’ed aluminum cylinder heads – based on LS7
o 275 cc nominal intake port volume
o 89 cc nominal exhaust port volume
o 70 cc nominal combustion chamber volume
o Del West titanium intake valves – 2.200” head diameter x 7mm stem
o Light-weight sodium-filled exhaust valves – 1.610” head diameter x 7mm stem
�� Fel-Pro Performance multi-layer steel head gaskets with raised cylinder sealing bead
�� Internal wet sump oil pump
�� Deep-sump cast aluminum oil pan – 6 quart capacity
�� ATI Performance Products SFI-approved damper
�� Meziere billet electric water pump
�� Chevrolet Performance/Holley “Hi Ram” intake manifold
�� Whipple billet throttle body – 102mm blade

FUEL SYSTEM:
�� Aeromotive “Eliminator” fuel pump - free flow rating = 800 lb/hr
�� Aeromotive A1000 pressure regulator with manifold pressure compensation capability
�� Aeromotive 10-micron high-flow filter
�� Light-weight black nylon braided -8 AN hoses
�� Black anodized aluminum -8 AN hose ends and fittings
�� High-impedance fuel injectors
o 327/550 – 105 lb/hr @ 43.5 psi with EV1 connector
o 327/500 – 80 lb/hr @ 43.5 psi with EV1 connector
o 427/427 – 42 lb/hr @ 58 psi with EV6 / USCAR connector
ENGINE CONROLS & IGNITION:
�� Delco MEFI 5A electronic fuel injection processor
o Speed density operation
o Interfacing software & hardware available in the aftermarket
�� Cable-actuated throttle
�� Production LS7 ignition coils
�� Production LS7 secondary wires
�� GM sensors
ELECTRICAL:
�� Dash-installed control switches:
o Starter
o Ignition
o Fuel pump
o Cooling fan
o Intercooler pump/water pump, depending on engine package
GAUGES:
�� Autometer with gold “Bowtie” logo on dials:
o 5” 10K RPM tach with shift light
o Electronic water temp with 2 1/16” face and 100°-260°F range
o Electronic trans temp with 2 1/16” face and 100°-260°F range
o Electronic oil pressure with 2 1/16” face and 0-100 psi range
o Electronic fuel pressure with 2 1/16” face and 0-100 psi range
o Voltmeter with 2 1/16” face and 8-18v range
SAFETY:
�� RJS Safety Equipment 3” driver restraints
�� RJS Safety Equipment window net



Looks like fun too ME!!:burn:


Wnts2Go10O
04-15-2012, 03:03 PM
3100+? christ.. damn pigs


lol read the list for the ls7... there is absolutely no way that makes less than a stock ls7.

GIZMO
04-15-2012, 04:02 PM
Looks like fun too ME!!:burn:

Really? What class are you planning to run?


06X6spdGTO
04-15-2012, 09:10 PM
We plan to run S/S Eliminator.

BennyB
04-16-2012, 12:13 AM
Sounds like a badass car and we live pretty close. I'd love to see the car in action!

LNorton
04-16-2012, 06:19 AM
Did they get any specs in for a manual trans or a 3 speed?

06X6spdGTO
04-16-2012, 07:48 AM
All cars come with a powerglide

5.3LJimmy
04-16-2012, 08:18 AM
These cars should be bad to the bone. I can't wait to see some in action at the track.

Two things in that spec list have me wanting more info. The ceramic ball lifters and the cast aluminum 6 quart oil pan. It would be nice if Chevy Performance had a drag oriented pan available for purchase with better oil control while still fitting and functioning like any other stock oil pan.

GIZMO
04-16-2012, 09:28 PM
Did they get any specs in for a manual trans or a 3 speed?

I am still waiting for an answer on that one. They have yet to reveal what will actually be submitted to the NHRA. You can probably guess how I feel about the HP numbers. I have already expressed my opinion to GM!

LNorton
04-16-2012, 09:31 PM
I am still waiting for an answer on that one. They have yet to reveal what will actually be submitted to the NHRA. You can probably guess how I feel about the HP numbers. I have already expressed my opinion to GM!

Maybe they will take advantage of the situation like Ford and Mopar did... but without a 4-speed in the guide I just can't get that into it.

Mighty Whitey
04-17-2012, 02:15 AM
Not sure how they plan on pulling off those HP numbers, but I'm sure there's gonna be quite a few protests, and subsequent horsepower adjustments right off the bat.

A 13:1, huge cammed, ls7 making 30hp less than a production zo6 engine? Lol.

Fb0dy0nly
04-17-2012, 05:35 AM
Not sure how they plan on pulling off those HP numbers, but I'm sure there's gonna be quite a few protests, and subsequent horsepower adjustments right off the bat.

A 13:1, huge cammed, ls7 making 30hp less than a production zo6 engine? Lol.

maybe its the "cali friendly" version they are posting.. ;)

just reminds me of how they did it back in the 60's with the ratings.

Mighty Whitey
04-17-2012, 10:55 AM
maybe its the "cali friendly" version they are posting.. ;)

just reminds me of how they did it back in the 60's with the ratings.

More like "Cobra Jet Friendly" numbers.

JL ws-6
04-17-2012, 10:57 AM
Maybe that's rep, with an unlocked 6200 converter..... Get some under car pictures when it shows I'm interested to see what the rear suspension looks like

GIZMO
04-17-2012, 09:28 PM
Not sure how they plan on pulling off those HP numbers, but I'm sure there's gonna be quite a few protests, and subsequent horsepower adjustments right off the bat.

A 13:1, huge cammed, ls7 making 30hp less than a production zo6 engine? Lol.

If these numbers are submitted to the NHRA it will probably be a while before we see any adjustments. You really have to understand how this game works..............

(The Z06 would get killed in Stock Eliminator)

Mighty Whitey
04-18-2012, 11:03 AM
If these numbers are submitted to the NHRA it will probably be a while before we see any adjustments. You really have to understand how this game works..............

(The Z06 would get killed in Stock Eliminator)

Hey, I say more power to them if they can get away with it. It just sucks for guys like yourself that are competing with cars that are rated with less "advertised horsepower" and truly have to read between the lines to wring every last ounce of power out of a setup. When the factory drag Pak cars can have a motor making 150-200hp more than they're "rating" and no one has a leg to stand on when it comes to protesting it.

You're right, I don't understand all the fine details of Stock racing that make it what it is. Whether it's all technical, or part political, I'm not sure. It's definately the most interesting class of drag racing in my opinion.

Bill00Formula
04-18-2012, 12:08 PM
Isn't the mustang cobra jet rated at 425-430 hp and runs low 9s? Not sure how these ratings work for this class but obviously not too accurate.

GIZMO
04-18-2012, 08:57 PM
Hey, I say more power to them if they can get away with it. It just sucks for guys like yourself that are competing with cars that are rated with less "advertised horsepower" and truly have to read between the lines to wring every last ounce of power out of a setup.

I actually have a 427 COPO coming. The HP numbers for S/SS are just a factor. As to how good the COPO will be at those numbers I really dont know. I am excited about the prospect of finding out!!

06X6spdGTO
04-18-2012, 09:28 PM
^ I guess the Copo 427 did better in testing than the 2.9L 327.

Travu25
04-18-2012, 09:50 PM
I have seen the "Cobra jet" and It ran 8.20's in the 1/8th I will see if i can find the video

1dirtyZ
04-19-2012, 06:12 AM
definatly post pics of the car , especially the rear suspension :)

thechef
04-20-2012, 10:37 AM
what is the price tags on these pkgs????

06X6spdGTO
04-20-2012, 11:54 AM
89k to 97k
89k 427 N/A
97k 327/4.0l whipple

JL ws-6
04-20-2012, 11:55 AM
what is the price tags on these pkgs????

Retarded :jest:

Gary Z
04-20-2012, 11:09 PM
Can someone briefly explain why a powerglide is appropriate for this car? My understanding has been that a pg works best in lightweight, high-hp cars.

06X6spdGTO
04-21-2012, 01:04 AM
I guess 3100lbs isnt Light?? FWIW our 2980lb race weight Gbody picked up 3 tenths with the 406sbc just from switching to a powerglide over the TH350

406 is probly making around 450-475bhp.

Gary Z
04-21-2012, 11:06 AM
...our 2980lb race weight Gbody picked up 3 tenths with the 406sbc just from switching to a powerglide over the TH350 This is very surprising and interesting to me, a manual transmission guy. The torque converter must be doing some magic I don't know about.

subhumanzz
04-21-2012, 12:15 PM
I have seen the "Cobra jet" and It ran 8.20's in the 1/8th I will see if i can find the video

Just stop, Don Fezel just ran his cobra jet to a 8.975 last weekend at the NHRA race. Thats a far cry from a 8.2 1/8th time. Bolt on f-bodies run faster than that.

jbhotrod
04-21-2012, 12:38 PM
Just curious, but why is the hp rating so low?

Dirty Vegas
04-21-2012, 03:18 PM
Read this, and it will explain why the power numbers are what they are.

www.nhra.com/competition/classification.aspx

06X6spdGTO
04-22-2012, 01:46 AM
This is very surprising and interesting to me, a manual transmission guy. The torque converter must be doing some magic I don't know about.

Used the same converter in both the TH350 and Glide for our car. The Powerglide also had more MPH and close to the same 60' time.

FYI the glide we run is a "Turbo Glide" basically a powerglide with a TH350 Main. So we can run the EXACT same Torque converter in both Trans setups.


Im pretty sure the Glide is less parasitic and about 40-60lbs less than the TH350.

06X6spdGTO
04-22-2012, 01:47 AM
Ill see If I can dig up the old time slips for the glide vs the TH350. I know we have them saved somewhere.

GIZMO
04-22-2012, 09:28 AM
We plan to run S/S Eliminator.

Which class?

Wnts2Go10O
04-22-2012, 03:39 PM
89k to 97k
89k 427 N/A
97k 327/4.0l whipple

:bomb: that makes no sense what so ever.

06X6spdGTO
04-22-2012, 04:31 PM
The Prices ARE VERY WELL inline with the Cobra Jet and Trak Pak Challenger

GIZMO
04-22-2012, 06:07 PM
.....that makes no sense what so ever.

You need to read that list again. GM has actually done a good job keeping the price in line.

GIZMO
04-24-2012, 07:17 AM
Did they get any specs in for a manual trans or a 3 speed?

I just got the official "yes" for both! Daren is a happy boy today!! ;)

I guess that it is time to build a transmission! :burn:

Heyfred
04-25-2012, 10:48 AM
definatly post pics of the car , especially the rear suspension

Watch the video below, stop it when it shows the rear supension.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f03RM5i3cDs

1dirtyZ
04-25-2012, 05:58 PM
thanks!!

06X6spdGTO
04-25-2012, 08:05 PM
PURE WIN!! @ 2:29 in the video above!

flyin
04-25-2012, 08:44 PM
definatly post pics of the car , especially the rear suspension :)


^ this

No stock type suspension at all?

1dirtyZ
04-26-2012, 05:06 AM
maybe it uses the stock suspension (i.e. subframe ) mounting points?

5.3LJimmy
04-26-2012, 11:52 AM
I'm guessing because GM built it that way that the NHRA will consider the COPO to be "stock suspension". It has a 9" rear which you can't run in a 4th Gen in Stock Eliminator.

1dirtyZ
04-26-2012, 04:50 PM
makes sense :)

GIZMO
04-26-2012, 09:00 PM
No stock type suspension at all?

The IRS is not really practical for Stock Eliminator, so the NHRA has allowed a four link design that was submitted by Chevrolet. I am in the process of building a B/SA 2010 Camaro from a body-in-white. As this is a non-COPO car the NHRA is having me build it a little differently (12-bolt, etc.). It should go to the paint shop next week.

(No photos until it has gone down the track!)

flyin
04-29-2012, 09:30 PM
I was thinking more along the lines of the old factory 3 link/torque arm setup. I know the IRS won't work.

There is debate as to how to use the COPO as a basis for factory style suspension in certain drag radial classes. If GM only offers the 4 link, I wonder if the 5th gen Camaro will ever be allowed to race in a class like X275

GIZMO
05-16-2012, 05:22 PM
I was thinking more along the lines of the old factory 3 link/torque arm setup. I know the IRS won't work.

There is debate as to how to use the COPO as a basis for factory style suspension in certain drag radial classes. If GM only offers the 4 link, I wonder if the 5th gen Camaro will ever be allowed to race in a class like X275

I don't see why it shouldn't be accepted. The four link is NHRA approved as stock.

On another note COPO #6 should be finished in June. ;)

06X6spdGTO
05-21-2012, 09:45 PM
I don't see why it shouldn't be accepted. The four link is NHRA approved as stock.

On another note COPO #6 should be finished in June. ;)

You got #6!!! Lucky SOB!!

We are Copo #26 expecting late august!

GIZMO
05-22-2012, 09:10 AM
You got #6!!! Lucky SOB!!

Lucky? I have over three years of lobbying tied up in this deal! ;)

06X6spdGTO
05-22-2012, 09:15 AM
Haha! Cant wait to see your results with it!

GIZMO
06-21-2012, 10:02 PM
You got #6!!! Lucky SOB!!

We are Copo #26 expecting late august!

If you havent already seen it, this is a cool link to the COPOs being built. Number 6 is the white car on the lift. My delivery is now July/August.

http://theblock.com/news/spoiler-alert-inside-look-copo-camaro-assembly

06X6spdGTO
06-21-2012, 10:27 PM
Ours is August/september. #27 offically now!!! Dont know how I got bumped down

GIZMO
06-22-2012, 10:11 PM
Ours is August/september. #27 offically now!!! Dont know how I got bumped down

There is a photo of number 32 on that site. So, I guess that your car is under construction. I heard from Jamie that they are doing more testing with the 4.0 blower combination. It should be a mean piece.

06X6spdGTO
06-24-2012, 03:32 PM
Hopefully it meets or exceeds all expectations.