Racer's Lounge - 10 Mile GNX. Never been titled. Check out the price!

http://chicago.craigslist.org/nwc/cto/2936712706.html

It's an amazing car and awesome but HOLY SHIT! That price! :jest:

That's nuckin futs. Nice car & I would love to have one, but $135,000.00? Someone will probably buy it. What is that like 1000% increase from original price.

Damn. Worth every penny to the right person.

If I had the money it would be my new DD. Haha

Ive seen that car. Well Im 99% sure its the same car, unless there is more than one with 10 miles.

My mechanic was doing some maintenance work on it when he was working on my old LT1 car back around 2007. I remember him laughing saying he was scared to pull it around the garage and make it turn over 10 miles. I think it had something like 9.8 miles back then.

I saw it on Ebay a couple of years back at a dealership in Texas. I emailed the guy just out of curiosity, and they had in fact bought it from a guy in NE GA near where I seen the car. IIRC they were asking over 90,000 for it back then. Its a clean car and looks brand new. The paint is amazing for a factory job. Very deep black.

does leaving a car sit for that long create any issues with seals or anything? You would think so.

Great car but dammmmmmmn on the price

Ive seen that car. Well Im 99% sure its the same car, unless there is more than one with 10 miles.

My mechanic was doing some maintenance work on it when he was working on my old LT1 car back around 2007. I remember him laughing saying he was scared to pull it around the garage and make it turn over 10 miles. I think it had something like 9.8 miles back then.

I saw it on Ebay a couple of years back at a dealership in Texas. I emailed the guy just out of curiosity, and they had in fact bought it from a guy in NE GA near where I seen the car. IIRC they were asking over 90,000 for it back then. Its a clean car and looks brand new. The paint is amazing for a factory job. Very deep black.

Yep, remember seeing that car on ebay a couple years ago, if I won the lottery I'd probably own it! It'd be so tempting not to drive it though.

What a waste. A car never driven, rotting away, and $100,000 too much

I will admit that's a little much.. Maybe 80-90k?

That's a sick car though.

There's no way I could ever own a GNX and not put more than 10 miles on it, lol.

If I owned a GNX it sure as hell wouldn't be sitting in my garage 24/7

i see its about to hit 11 miles.... thats going to drop the value alot.


on a side note i wonder who just has the thought "im going to buy this car, drive it home, and never drive it ever again."

I thought the car looked cool and then saw the interior and :(

does leaving a car sit for that long create any issues with seals or anything? You would think so.

That's the way I look at it. Most people see a super-low mileage vehicle and say "man, this thing is like brand new!!!111". Yeah sure the 'odo isn't showing any age mileage wise, but the rest of that car has been ROTTING since the day it left the factory. Would you like to take your chances on gaskets and seals that haven't been touched in over 20 years? Lemme guess, the tires and the fluids are original too? Not for me, unless the car was going to a museum or sit in a garage, never being moved under its own power. Again, no matter the mileage, an old car is still an old car.

On a personal note, everyone has a right to do whatever they want, but IMO having these uber-low mileage cars is just stupid. Drive the f**king thing already...

LOL. All this talk about "rotting". Yes, I agree that only 10 miles on a 25 year old car is pretty extreme, but do you really think it would be in any better shape (mechanically) if it had been driven the average ~12k miles per year over the last 25 years? 300,000 mile cars have usually had MANY of their mechanical parts and gaskets rebuilt/replaced at some point. So if an ultra low mileage car needs something after 25 years, it's certainly in no worse shape from "rotting" than it would have been by getting worn out due to daily driving. But the advantage of ultra low mileage is that the body/paint/trim/interior doesn't have that 300k miles of wear on it, and doesn't require a full frame off restoration to look perfect. ;)

Anyway it doesn't matter, because most people that would be willing to spend the kind of money that it takes to own a car like this wouldn't be buying it to drive it. If someone wants a GNX to actually drive, they'll save themselves several tens of thousands of dollars by getting one with more miles on it. I think it's cool to see time capsule cars like this, but owning one certainly isn't for the general car enthusiast....it's a special niche within the hobby.

Is it stupid? No more or less stupid then guys that modify Civics for more power when they could just start with a faster car and invest less to be further ahead. Or guys that drop the cash for a brand new car only to break the engine down and void the warranty they paid for rather than buying a used car to mess with (hmmmm, there's one I'm guilty of myself). Anything you can think of will seem stupid to at least one other person in the world.

i don't think i could buy a car and leave it sit untouched for so long. i'd pretty much HAVE to drive it, especially a car like that.

LIES!!! This car has 10.7....basically 11 miles...not worth more than $130,000.00

I thought the car looked cool and then saw the interior and :(

If you didn't already know what a GNX interior looked like, then your opinion on a performance car forum is nullified.


If I had just a retarded amount of money and had a "showroom" at home consisting of my favorite classic cars, I would consider this one.
However, I like to drive cars, so I'd probably search for one with miles in the 5k - 10k range for around $60k. I could put a few miles here and there on something like that and not feel too bad.

here's my prediction for what would happen to this car if someone bought it today:

it would sit in the garage for the remainder of the current owners life, maybe accumulating 10-20 miles. 40-50 years from now, the buyer dies, and the car ends up in in a scrap yard, or melted down for scrap, if not because I don't expect these generation cars to have parts really readily available, but because it seems the car collecting age is slowly regressing into a Honda/Ricer style, and when we're all dead and gone, that's what will be left.

If you didn't already know what a GNX interior looked like, then your opinion on a performance car forum is nullified.

I remember what the interior was like, but seeing a picture of it again brought back those memories. :jest:

Maybe in another 10 years it'll be worth that, but not now. IMO. The cars going for that price are almost double the age this car is.

I know its not the same but the other day at the chevy dealer they had a "brand new" 2002 camaro ss convertible with the cme,and beside it a "brand new" 02 red ws6.they wanted 32,xxx for the camaro and I dont believe the ws6 was for sale

In good condition, I don't see any of the 86 to 87 Turbo Buicks (Regals, GNs, GNX) ever dropping in value.

10 Years ago you could pick up a very clean 40k mile 1987 Grand National for around $10k. You'd be lucky to pick up a similar miles/condition 87 GN today for under $17k.

I believe it will sell for damn close to asking, probably mid 120s. But LMAO for listing a car of that class on craigslist.

That's nuckin futs. Nice car & I would love to have one, but $135,000.00? Someone will probably buy it. What is that like 1000% increase from original price.

MSRP in 87 was a hair under $30,000 for the GNX. The GNX option alone was 11k. And only 547 were ever made.

BTW one was destroyed during the cash for clunkers program a few years back.

does leaving a car sit for that long create any issues with seals or anything? You would think so.

Yes, it is detrimental and I sure hope all the gas was drained out of that thing. From personal experience with many collector cars, from my own to my car collector neighbors (12 cars) the cars that sit generally have problems. Having said that, once these problems are corrected, you have one sweet ultra low mileage ride. I just recently bought an '87 Aerocoupe that was driven an average of about 500 miles per year, almost always in storage. Fortunately the gas was OK (Sta-bil used) but every fluid had to be flushed out, the a/c 'froze up' (condenser clutch, and a/c leaks all over), the heater core blew, all new belts were needed, and other small repairs just due to age. 25 years is a long time. My Aero is incredible right now but the storage (climate controlled too) was just no good for it. If it had been driven 1,500 - 2,000 miles per year with regular maintenance it probably would have been perfect, and 40,000 - 50,000 easy miles would still be nothing on a 25 year old car. It depends who wants to buy it, someone who will drive it a bit, or someone that will throw it on a trailer and tote it to car shows. I have to drive a little bit and I'll be putting on those 2,000 miles per year.

I'd have to take it for a test drive before I'd buy it. :poke:


I'm sure they start and run it to operating temp every once in a while. I doubt it's just sitting there without being started at all.

Yes, it is detrimental and I sure hope all the gas was drained out of that thing. From personal experience with many collector cars, from my own to my car collector neighbors (12 cars) the cars that sit generally have problems. Having said that, once these problems are corrected, you have one sweet ultra low mileage ride. I just recently bought an '87 Aerocoupe that was driven an average of about 500 miles per year, almost always in storage. Fortunately the gas was OK (Sta-bil used) but every fluid had to be flushed out, the a/c 'froze up' (condenser clutch, and a/c leaks all over), the heater core blew, all new belts were needed, and other small repairs just due to age. 25 years is a long time. My Aero is incredible right now but the storage (climate controlled too) was just no good for it. If it had been driven 1,500 - 2,000 miles per year with regular maintenance it probably would have been perfect, and 40,000 - 50,000 easy miles would still be nothing on a 25 year old car. It depends who wants to buy it, someone who will drive it a bit, or someone that will throw it on a trailer and tote it to car shows. I have to drive a little bit and I'll be putting on those 2,000 miles per year.

A lot of these issues can be avoided if the car is maintained properly during all those years of storage. People think that stuff like coolant won't ever go bad if the car is rarely driven, but it still does. Fluids need to be addressed occasionally even on seldom driven cars, and this will go a long way to prevent most of the "sitting" issues that people talk about.

I too have bought cars that spent a lot of time sitting under the care of other people, and had to deal with some issues to get them corrected. But I've owned my '98 for the majority of it's life, and I've been very careful about it's care (proper gas treatment, proper fluid maintenance, proper complete warm-up process when it does get driven). After 14 years it still runs as perfect as new, never seeing more than 1500 miles per year in it's earlier years and now more like 200-300 per year. We'll see how well my processes have worked as the years pass, but I feel pretty confident that it'll be in just as good of mechanical condition as one that was driven 2-3k per year since day one.

how was the car never titled?? if the dealer sold it, it had to be titled, unless it went from dealer to dealer... how many people have "owned" this car over the yrs??

A lot of these issues can be avoided if the car is maintained properly during all those years of storage. People think that stuff like coolant won't ever go bad if the car is rarely driven, but it still does. Fluids need to be addressed occasionally even on seldom driven cars, and this will go a long way to prevent most of the "sitting" issues that people talk about.

I too have bought cars that spent a lot of time sitting under the care of other people, and had to deal with some issues to get them corrected. But I've owned my '98 for the majority of it's life, and I've been very careful about it's care (proper gas treatment, proper fluid maintenance, proper complete warm-up process when it does get driven). After 14 years it still runs as perfect as new, never seeing more than 1500 miles per year in it's earlier years and now more like 200-300 per year. We'll see how well my processes have worked as the years pass, but I feel pretty confident that it'll be in just as good of mechanical condition as one that was driven 2-3k per year since day one.

Exactly! You are the type owner I want to buy a car from. Unfortunately there aren't too many of us around. Many owners think just 'looking' at the car in the garage is the same as maintenance. They all say the same thing,"It's perfect! It needs nothing." Fortunately we know better and allow for those repairs when we buy the cars. Another reason to never have a car shipped 'sight unseen'. By travelling to get my car I was able to knock another $1,000 off of our agreed 'phone' price. I saw the fluids and the a/c issue and a few other minor things. He couldn't argue. With cash in my hand he would have been a fool to let me leave, and I would have. That $1,000 went right to the repairs which amounted to about that amount. Now the car is just the way I envsioned.

Exactly! You are the type owner I want to buy a car from. Unfortunately there aren't too many of us around. Many owners think just 'looking' at the car in the garage is the same as maintenance. They all say the same thing,"It's perfect! It needs nothing." Fortunately we know better and allow for those repairs when we buy the cars. Another reason to never have a car shipped 'sight unseen'. By travelling to get my car I was able to knock another $1,000 off of our agreed 'phone' price. I saw the fluids and the a/c issue and a few other minor things. He couldn't argue. With cash in my hand he would have been a fool to let me leave, and I would have. That $1,000 went right to the repairs which amounted to about that amount. Now the car is just the way I envsioned.

Likewise and agreed! :cheers:

I had similar cooling system issues as your Monte SS when I bought my Nova. As soon as I started driving it, the heater core began leaking. I replaced that, and then shortly after the radiator started weeping. But I guess I really can't complain about that, since both items appeared to be original and at the time were 38 years old. I didn't have the opportunity to start this car off right from the beginning, but now it, like my other cars, receives proper care for a limited use car. Like you, I am very particular about these things and go to a degree that few people would with their seldom-used garage queens.

On a side note, did you ever hear back about those Cooper Cobras? Just wondering what the verdict was.

On a side note, did you ever hear back about those Cooper Cobras? Just wondering what the verdict was.

Yes, I wrote a followup post. Apparently they are not made in the US anymore either. It's OK, I am quite pleased with these Firestone Indy tires. It was just a preference to buy American made.

Its a Buick ....... they stopped making them for a reason. There lame and not worth anything.

Its a Buick ....... they stopped making them for a reason. There lame and not worth anything.

Lol. Sure thing buddy. :gtfo:

Yes, I wrote a followup post. Apparently they are not made in the US anymore either. It's OK, I am quite pleased with these Firestone Indy tires. It was just a preference to buy American made.

That's too bad about the Coopers. They were the last hold out. :(

There lame and not worth anything.

Apparently so is your statement, considering how wrong it is. "Lame" or not is just an opinion, but market value is not. GNX (and really any super nice '86-'87 Grand National/Turbo Regal) is quite possibily the most collectible domestic car of the '80s, and considering some of the prices I've seen them change hands for, they are FAR from worthless.

Its a Buick ....... they stopped making them for a reason. There lame and not worth anything.

Dumbest post in the history of LS1Tech. ^