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Old 04-18-2012, 03:08 PM
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Default 2000 SS VS 05 OR 06 stang....won but not by how much i would liked

so i have an m6 stock clutch, tranny, suspension, and gears......cammed 236 238 on a 112 lsa......has the slp flowpac kit, and also has an ls6 intake.....completely stock exhaust and manifolds.........dont have the money for an ory and headers.....but soon....anyway a guy i know has a 4.6, stick and only has a catback.......got out on the highway and gues he neverraced before because while driving, tried explaining to go on three honks, but then started pulling ahead when we didnt even honk....i was like wtf.....we were rolling at 40, and turns out he thought i said put it in third and go......so hes in third and after he was about 80 feet ahead of me i just gunned it......i didnt even start to catch him til i was doing like 100.....so i pass him when im doing 130 and then i let off......just thought mycar had a tougher time catching him than it should have........is the fact that i have stock manifolds really choking this carabove 5000 rpms? i mean after the cam and intake swap, thecar doesnt feel that much faster.....if i got headers and ditched the cats will it totally wake the car up?
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Mustangs are just fast like that..
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headers and high flow cats will do you a world of change....and you'll feel it. especially with intake and cam already done.
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lol a 4.6 is like the slowest v8 ever.

def. something wrong with your setup.
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First, you said he was about 80 ft. ahead of you before you gunned it. Second, I see you haven't been tuned after the cam install. That would be 2 good reasons why it took you so long to catch up to him. You said you don't have the money for headers. Take plan B: go to an exhaust shop and have them make a Y-pipe for you, forget about the headers for now {our exhaust manifolds flow decent}, then get a tune. Race him again and see how much of a difference it is from the previous race.
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no it has been tuned since the cam swap......so with the slp flowpac, flowmaster muffler, and smooth bellow, i made 317 on a dynojet.....i figure after the cam and intake, i should be around 370 or so...which is a 100 hp difference than thestang, so i just thought i shoulda caught him more......maybe i should try racing him and actually go on the 3rd honk.........
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come to think of it, he could been more like 100 feet or so ahead.....dont exactly remember
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damn that sucks for you...u need a better tune and let that set up breath and release everything with better flow ..get som ebay long tubs or sumthing
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my buddy tuned it with hptuners.....and has tuned tons of fbodies.....does that make him good? not necessarily but i have faith in the tune.......i dont know much, but there is no spark knock at all, and the air fuel is right where it needs to be which those are the most important things right
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Originally Posted by F-Body_4_Life
Mustangs are just fast like that..
^^^^Op...only post you should listen to..Words of wisdom...


jk...

Op, honestly..sometimes when another car gets the hit, it is harder to pull that back especially when the roll speeds are already high. I have had situations like that before..I would not worry about it. Run him again from a slower speed with both of you leaving at the same time. That would be a true test.

Another thing to check...does he have gears? They can do wonders!
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i would have prioritized better and done full bolt on parts before doing a big cam like that.
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The stock Y-pipe on these cars are awful. Get that replaced with a 3 inch Y-pipe and you'll feel a big difference.
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OP If you were 80 feet behind him you realize that that is easily 6-7 car lengths. I'm suprised you caught him at all being that far in front of you and getting the hit. OP if you can get him to run from a lower roll and leave at the same time you will put a train on this guy.
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i have to agree with above comment you have to realize if he is atleast 80ft in front of you to make up that difference and put another car on him is several car lengths. So it may look like and im sure the mustang owner you raced would like to think he only lost by one car length and essentially that did happen but if you consider being so far back to begin with he lost by several car lengths. Ive raced silver one by my work, cocky guy too. He would gun it first get 3-4 cars in front before i know it and have to play catch up and only pull next to him if not just one length and he would be happy that he kept up, lol.
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yea......ill see if i can get ahold of him again
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I have a stock 1995 lt1 t56 trans am.
cat delete, cai, short shifter, wore out clutch.
i destroyed a 01 5 spd cobra from a 45 roll.
all he had was catback, cai, short shifter
i slowed down at about 125, i was about 5-6 cars ahead.

also destroyed a 08 r/t charger from a dig
he had catback and cai
he jumped WAY early
after i hit about 110 (about 3/8 of a mile) i had easily 4 cars on him

my buddy had a 08 gt
short shifter, full exhaust, tune
from a 20 roll, (with me spinning a little) i beat him by a little more than a car.

as they said,
if he had 80 ft on you and you ran him down,
your car did pretty good.
get a rematch and stomp it when he does and make him cry
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Yeah if he had a big hit and your car isn't tuned and has no exhaust set up - I am surprised you even passed him.
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My bolt-on LT1 gave 3V's a hard time and crushed some hopes and dreams.

That being said, you definitely need some longtubes, off-road y-pipe, and a real tune. Why would you cam the car before doing supporting mods? No wonder it runs like junk.
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ok so if hptuners isnt a real tune, then what is? u want me to go spend 500 for a dyno tune?
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Originally Posted by Floorman279
ok so if hptuners isnt a real tune, then what is? u want me to go spend 500 for a dyno tune?
We want you to learn how to mod a car. You dont add a mid/large sized cam to a car with stock manifolds and expect it to make huge power.


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