Cadillac CTS-V - Legit?

College Auto Sales, Miami Florida

http://www1.casmiami.com/inventory/DOMESTICcarlist1.html?MAKE=Cadillac#Cadillac

Shows a bunch of V2's with really low miles, but rebuildable titles due to being a "racing vehicle"

Anyone wana fill me in a little bit?

These were part of the v series drive events which are held at a number of tracks around the country. They were more then likely abused by many many drivers over their short track life. The price point is equivalent to a V with 80k miles or so. The real question is about the drivetrain warranty, if canceled (which I have heard of other track cars that were) then I would stay away, if it's still valid, then it may be an interesting vehicle. Don't forget they will be hard to sell because of the title.

no warranty for sure

Better off grabbing one on copart with a salvage title. It will run you 30 gs in the end vs 40 just my 2 cents. If your are gonna settle for a dirty title build it yourself and you save huge. Check this one out Ryan http://www.copart.com/c2/homeSearch.html?_eventId=getLot&execution=e1s1&lotId=13726452&returnPage=SEARCH_RESULTS. Guarantee you you could get it under 30 and it will run you around 30 when you finnish building that light hit. Fender and bumper and you are set. Plus the engine here has seen much less abuse.

it would be cool if they could verify frame damage though. But I see what your getting at

I doubt very seriously that their is structural frame damage. Maybe a tweaked frame rail, which isnt a big deal in a body shop. If the damage was really that bad than the bags would have gone off. Fenders, Door, Bumper, maybe hood. Possibly head light housings, and minor suspension parts. Wheels probably need to be refinished?

All in all thats a hell of a deal. I wouldnt pay $50000 for a car that has been raced for 1000 miles. On an average track, Thats about 800 laps. I would at most do $40k. If theyre letting everyday joe's drive them than thats no worse than what I would do to that thing on a regular basis :devil:

These or similar vehicles were on ebay a while back with branded titles from GM with no warranties. They also had the same exact prices.

The only thing I can think is, arent these things supposed to take a beating? 3k miles being beat up doesnt sound that much. But who knows. I guess you'd have to be there to see it being driven to kinda go "uhhhhh, I wouldnt want that car after this"

They are designed to take a beating, but some items will wear out. They question is will it be major or minor things, and if major will they be covered by any type of warranty.

I'm thinking simple items will be things like pads, rotors, wheel bearings, shocks, rod ends, etc.

Major would be tranny, clutch, diff, etc.

You can replace the simple items easily within the cost savings cushion, the majors would be much tougher.

imho if they where selling those v's for 30k id be all over it. 40 is to much for a track car witha branded title

The only thing I can think is, arent these things supposed to take a beating? 3k miles being beat up doesnt sound that much. But who knows. I guess you'd have to be there to see it being driven to kinda go "uhhhhh, I wouldnt want that car after this"

3k miles is a lot. The average track is anywhere from 1 to 1.5 miles. Thats over 2000 laps in a years time. These car's are subjected to a lot harsher circumstances than you taking your car to the track. The engine oil should be replaced daily or each weekend of a typical track vehicle. Trans and diff fluid a little less often. Are these cars warmed up and cooled down. While it sounds minimal, it changes the elements in the oils. $30k, Hit, $40k, Skip.

Why don't you just call College Auto Sales and as them!
There, problem solved. Question answered.
NEXT!

so they can feed me a bunch of crap? Just like every other auto place?

come back when you are able to look at the classifieds

What classifieds are you talking about? And how do you know they are going to feed you "a bunch of crap"? I would think that its worth a try at least. Maybe they are not "just like every other auto place" that has taken advantage of you in the past. Just maybe college auto sales is a honest auto place that will answer your questions, honestly. It's worth a try. You need the # ?

What classifieds are you talking about? And how do you know they are going to feed you "a bunch of crap"? I would think that its worth a try at least. Maybe they are not "just like every other auto place" that has taken advantage of you in the past. Just maybe college auto sales is a honest auto place that will answer your questions, honestly. It's worth a try. You need the # ?

The LS1Tech classifieds...since you don't have enough post or the amount of time on the forum to post in them.

The bunch of crap is he refering to is the crap that any car lot will feed you to sell the car. They may not out right lie to you, but they will ease the truth to increase the likely hood that they will sell a car to you. I have yet to meet any car salesman that is 100% up front and honest about everything with a car. A car dealer is a business, and they are there to make money. If they tell someone that X Car was trashed, beaten, and hung out to dry on a daily basis, 99.99% of the time people will just walk away. Especailly with a $42k dollar that most people will be trying to finance. And with the branded title, it will be very diffuculy to do that at a term and rate any sane person would be willing to accecpt.

Why don't you call them then, and post your results with your encounter...or maybe you know dick about these cars and will believe anything they tell you. Either way, you sir, are about as retarded as they come.

What the hell are you talking about dude? You call me retarded? You don't even know me mf.
I find it Hilarious that you speak for wcryan. You two really good friends huh. lol and i am sorry that
you both have been taken advantage of by car salesman. That is very sad.
Everything else about financing, vehicle condition and what 99.99% of people would do is what? You talking to yourself I guess
Now I won't go as far as to call you retarded, but I bet you are young, (under 30) and possibly abused as a small child. Sexually would be my guess.
As far as info from classic, i will call them. How else will anybody here know what the deal is?

I hurt his feelings...aww, how sad...now, since you seem old and confused I will answer your questions and statements in your post...

What the hell are you talking about dude?

You're an idiot that came in here spewing garage.

You call me retarded? You don't even know me mf.

Yes I did...and you proved my point. And by saying "mf", you may have the intelligence of a 13 year old year with an extra chromosome.

I find it Hilarious that you speak for wcryan. You two really good friends huh.

Speaking for him, I am not. I just hate when newbies post asinine comments like you did. And I never even met the guy, just making fun of him on here for being a twat with a 07 Truck Motor V.

lol and i am sorry that you both have been taken advantage of by car salesman. That is very sad.

I have never been “taken advantage” of when buying a car from a dealer. I grew up selling cars and motorcycles with my dad. So I know how the business works. I don't fault them for trying to sell a car that is their job after all. But I am just smart enough to know, unlike yourself, that they are trying to sell you something. So the truth will be stretched.

Now I won't go as far as to call you retarded, but I bet you are young, (under 30) and possibly abused as a small child. Sexually would be my guess.

I am 26 years old...what’s your point. I bet in my short adult life I have done more meaningful things. And more than likely lived more then you have in you pitiful excuse for an exist that you have. I have you jerk off with your tears for lube when you look back at how sad and pathetic your life has been. Well, that is after you pop a couple Viagra to cure the ED you got when you had your nuts removed. Sexual abuse comes with being an alter boy...HELLO FATHER!

As far as info from classic, i will call them. How else will anybody here know what the deal is?

Good luck...maybe that’s what you should have done before you just spewed your garage of a comment. Good luck in your endeavor...hopefully they won't will treat like the lady you are.

:corn::corn:

E Kick his ass SEABASS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! (cole) lmao

What the hell are you talking about dude? You call me retarded? You don't even know me mf.
I find it Hilarious that you speak for wcryan. You two really good friends huh. lol and i am sorry that
you both have been taken advantage of by car salesman. That is very sad.
Everything else about financing, vehicle condition and what 99.99% of people would do is what? You talking to yourself I guess
Now I won't go as far as to call you retarded, but I bet you are young, (under 30) and possibly abused as a small child. Sexually would be my guess.
As far as info from classic, i will call them. How else will anybody here know what the deal is?

i just turned 13 and i'm not sure why you are being so hurtful to someone that is allegedly "under 30".

3k miles is a lot. The average track is anywhere from 1 to 1.5 miles. Thats over 2000 laps in a years time.

It didn't seem like a big deal to me, but when you break it down like that, it's kinda mind numbing.

The calipers don't seem as gold as the ones GM was selling a while back

College Auto Sales, Miami Florida

http://www1.casmiami.com/inventory/DOMESTICcarlist1.html?MAKE=Cadillac#Cadillac

Shows a bunch of V2's with really low miles, but rebuildable titles due to being a "racing vehicle"

Anyone wana fill me in a little bit?
I went and looked at one of the 2009 models about a year ago. It was ragged to hell with 7k miles. No warranty. The brakes were heat stressed like nothing Ive ever seen. I thought they had yellow calipers at first and then realized it was the heat that turned them yellow.

The newer ones supposedly are being required to have a salvage title per GM. I dont have any proof. Its just what I read.

Keep in mind though that like said earlier they are very very hard miles with no speed limits. Plan on new tires, brakes..discs and pads, complete fluid change. and another 3g for unplanned repairs. If your going to turn it into a race car pay 32-35k for it and then upgrade all that crap since you dont have to worry about a warranty.

Knowing what you said. 40k is a little pricey. We know those parts aren't cheap.

I hurt his feelings...aww, how sad...now, since you seem old and confused I will answer your questions and statements in your post...



You're an idiot that came in here spewing garage.



Yes I did...and you proved my point. And by saying "retarded" I prove that I have the intelligence of a 13 year old year with an extra chromosome.



Speaking for him, I am not. I just hate when newbies post asinine comments like you did. And I never even met the guy, just making fun of him on here I am such a twat with a 07 Truck Motor V.



I have awalys been “taken advantage” of when buying a car from a dealer. I grew up selling cars and motorcycles with my dad. So I know how the business works. I don't fault them for trying to sell a car that is their job after all. But I am just smart enough to know that I was abused by my dad. So the truth will be stretched.



I am 26 years old...what’s your point. I bet in my short adult life I have been taken advantage of many times. And more than likely lived more then you have in you pitiful excuse for an exist that you have. I have you jerk off in my mouth for lube when I look back at how sad and pathetic my life has been. Well, that is after I pop a couple Viagra to cure the ED I got when I had my nuts removed. Sexual abuse comes with being an alter boy...HELLO FATHER!



Good luck...maybe that’s what you should have done before you just spewed your garage of a comment. Good luck in your endeavor...hopefully they will treat me like the lady I am.

Wow glad you cleared that up..

Just one question,
Your car is named BLACK BETTY? (hilarious:lol::lol::lol::lol:) Did you name her yourself or did you mom help you?
Black betty, Hilarious

there was a 2012 V 4door black raven with about 2,650 miles perfest shape for BUY IT NOW $ 42,000.00...in Ca. sold with salvage title cause it was used as a race demo and GM had the cars titles as salvaged so there would be no warranty.....

Wow glad you cleared that up..

Just one question,
Your car is named BLACK BETTY? (hilarious:lol::lol::lol::lol:) Did you name her yourself or did you mom help you?
Black betty, Hilarious

It was actually your mom...she came up with it after I blew my load on her face. She really likes the way my dick tastes.

Shit just got real. But if furbe is old enough for Viagra that means cole likes old ass bitches. I'm not suprused by that though.

oh boy...... shit just got REAL real

anyways......

Wow I like little boys so I'm glad you cleared that up for me with the alter boy comment
Looks like Cole has a fan boy!
Anyways, I have to agree with Cole on this one newb. your comment about the dealership is outlandish and paints you as having no clue about things such as this... If you want to fine an honest car salesman then go talk to a homeless man because that quality will have him living on the street without a job faster then you can reply to this post!


P.s. Cole you still drive a car with a truck motor bitch... :-P

OK made me post now. #1. I am pretty disgruntled that I had to type in Toyota Prius c to register for ls1 forum. How about Toyota sucks? Or "if I care about gas mileage I would not be here."
I digress ...
I bought an 07 from CAS. It had been beat and I know my way around a wrench.
Less than 8 k miles I had to replace front bushings and tie rod. Bad cat not covered no warranty means no warranty not even EPA. New front calipers imagine that the back are bad too. Haven't gotten that far. Replaced the clutch with aLS7. Found out I have a good center force dual disc with a flywheel that needs to be refinished, good clutch discs, and a bad pressure plate. (1600 new)
New tires and the rims need to be refinished. Drivers seat motor prolly too. It has been moved a lot but still functioning.
Based on numbers I have read it is one of 102. First owner as the title was from GM.
Now, if you are going to consider the buy you need to go and have eyes on so you know what you are getting. (Duh right? 40g,s). Second if you do not wrench yourself ( I know you do from other posts) forget it.
I do not know #,s for v2's but for me. I am happy at the 17,8 I paid for the v1 and the 3 grand I put into getting her up to par. Now its all about making her mine. (Sticker with the car was 55 plus they have all of the original docs paperwork and the disclaimer from GM stating it was not recall or wrecked)
PS - I have to get that CF clutch back in that thing was a MONSTER! Loved it!
Cheers -
PS - mr black Betty that likes to harass , one day he will have a child that done gone wild. sad thing if he's 20's. He might never understand the reference , most of us lived through it.
(Yes after bar night rant apologies in advance!)

For that price, a car that was modded to remove the warranty seems more interesting than one that was beat to remove the warranty. Like this car is only $2-3k more:

http://washingtondc.craigslist.org/mld/cto/2973983872.html

Get 'em Cole!

It was actually your mom...she came up with it after I blew my load on her face. She really likes the way my dick tastes.

Couldn't be my mom as she died 2 years ago....

Looks like Cole has a fan boy!
Anyways, I have to agree with Cole on this one newb. your comment about the dealership is outlandish and paints you as having no clue about things such as this... If you want to fine an honest car salesman then go talk to a homeless man because that quality will have him living on the street without a job faster then you can reply to this post!


P.s. Cole you still drive a car with a truck motor bitch... :-P

I don't want to fine anyone, I will leave that up to the courts.

As far as used car salesman, you must be another who was taken advantage of, like
your friends, by a dishonest car salesman. I can tell you not all salesmen are dishonest
and even though you may have had it shoved in your ass by one of the bad apples most
car salesmen are honest trustworthy people.

I don't follow your homeless comment, but if you are homeless and living on the street
try looking for a priest like your friend did. Maybe you can be an alterboy too. Same as your bbuddy, cole.

For that price, a car that was modded to remove the warranty seems more interesting than one that was beat to remove the warranty. Like this car is only $2-3k more:

http://washingtondc.craigslist.org/mld/cto/2973983872.html

I always wondered about cars like that. Not the mods...you can get good deals on modded cars.

Its the, "Yes it has 55k miles, but I just put a shitload of money into this car with a new forged motor, lots of supporting mods and additional boost 2000 miles ago and now I want to sell it" when I read those ads I think "whats wrong with it that your so disgusted with the project you want to sell the whole car after only 2k miles?"

Im not knocking the ad, Im just suspicious.

Couldn't be my mom as she died 2 years ago....

Cole your a sick puppy. Necrophelia is a disease and you should seek counseling.



My mom is hot though. She has no "teefers" so I thought she may be your type:devil:

I always wondered about cars like that. Not the mods...you can get good deals on modded cars.

Its the, "Yes it has 55k miles, but I just put a shitload of money into this car with a new forged motor, lots of supporting mods and additional boost 2000 miles ago and now I want to sell it" when I read those ads I think "whats wrong with it that your so disgusted with the project you want to sell the whole car after only 2k miles?"

Im not knocking the ad, Im just suspicious.

I agree 100%. Wouldn't you want to drive the thing after putting all that money into it?

Couldn't be my mom as she died 2 years ago....

Funny...I bought my car 2 years a go. Maybe she liked my dick so much, it killed her. She was not use to something so amazing. And it funny how she described you as "that shot that should have ended up as a stain on the sheets or in a balled up bit of tissue"...you are a lesson for men everywhere, watch where you shoot, sometimes it is better to aim for the face or just let it go in a wad of tissues.

Cole your a sick puppy. Necrophelia is a disease and you should seek counseling.



My mom is hot though. She has no "teefers" so I thought she may be your type:devil:

Its all pink in the middle (maybe with a hit of decay sometimes), and a space heater helps with the cold. No teeth = always a plus.

I can vouch for this car... I was at MIR when it ran a 9.9 one saturday morning! That thing is a BEAST!!


For that price, a car that was modded to remove the warranty seems more interesting than one that was beat to remove the warranty. Like this car is only $2-3k more:

http://washingtondc.craigslist.org/mld/cto/2973983872.html

Funny...I bought my car 2 years a go. Maybe she liked my dick so much, it killed her. She was not use to something so amazing. And it funny how she described you as "that shot that should have ended up as a stain on the sheets or in a balled up bit of tissue"...you are a lesson for men everywhere, watch where you shoot, sometimes it is better to aim for the face or just let it go in a wad of tissues.



Its all pink in the middle (maybe with a hit of decay sometimes), and a space heater helps with the cold. No teeth = always a plus.

:rotflmao: