Official 2013 GT500 662hp Ford Press Release
04-27-2012, 12:30 AM
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It's a production car and shouldn't matter if it's mass produced or not because Ford's claim is its the most powerful v8 in the world not most powerful mass produced v8 in the world.
Anywho not I don't want to take away from ford stepping their game way up. I love the fact that it backs GM into a corner. That should only make things better for consumers.
Anywho not I don't want to take away from ford stepping their game way up. I love the fact that it backs GM into a corner. That should only make things better for consumers.
04-27-2012, 01:35 AM
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major kudos to Ford on this one. 
04-27-2012, 02:15 AM
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Well that's not a mass produced V8 it's a niche car that they build a few a year. And besides the three cars a year they make what else is there? Shelby makes a 1100 HP version of the 2012 GT 500 but that doesn't count either, we are talking about mass produced V8's. BTW I did google it and all that popped up was the Shelby.
limited production is still production... unless you would like to add more caveats to the "most powerful" title..
ie: most powerful engine in which 7000 or more a year have said engine
or maybe most powerful engine in a car below 60k
or even most powerful engine built by ken and bob (top gear reference)
oh.. btw.. a 660+hp car IS A NICHE MARKET CAR derp
04-27-2012, 10:21 AM
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My 2011 GT500 with an upgraded TVS blower, big elbow, Ford Racing CJ dual-65mm TB dyno'd at 660.2 rwhp... REAR WHEEL, through my 100% stock exhaust.
So yes, there's certainly plenty more power in the well for the bigger 5.8. But the room for improvement won't be nearly as dramatic as my 2011, because the 2013 already runs the TVS blower standard...
But as was stated, correct, it's far from "maxed out", and let the drag-strip wars begin!!
As a P.S., of course ANY car can be modified, so stock vs. stock is the only reasonable discussion. That said, I don't see the ZL1 being as easy and/or cheap to increase HP on via mods as the Shelby, and I base that on what the CTS-V guys do... There's some SICK Caddy's showing up at the track, but alot more $$$ to arrive at the same E.T.'s as the modded Shelbys that are going 10's on just a blower-swap and slicks.
I too an champing at the bit to finally get a full-on comparo of the two cars. Good lord I hope that people can take it objectively... On another forum I saw someone arguing "platform cost-effectiveness" as an excuse for the less-powerful ZL1.. C'mon, really? Whatever the guys who wear the expensive suits dictate, the cars have to speak for themselves, no damn excuses..
So yes, there's certainly plenty more power in the well for the bigger 5.8. But the room for improvement won't be nearly as dramatic as my 2011, because the 2013 already runs the TVS blower standard...
But as was stated, correct, it's far from "maxed out", and let the drag-strip wars begin!!
As a P.S., of course ANY car can be modified, so stock vs. stock is the only reasonable discussion. That said, I don't see the ZL1 being as easy and/or cheap to increase HP on via mods as the Shelby, and I base that on what the CTS-V guys do... There's some SICK Caddy's showing up at the track, but alot more $$$ to arrive at the same E.T.'s as the modded Shelbys that are going 10's on just a blower-swap and slicks.
I too an champing at the bit to finally get a full-on comparo of the two cars. Good lord I hope that people can take it objectively... On another forum I saw someone arguing "platform cost-effectiveness" as an excuse for the less-powerful ZL1.. C'mon, really? Whatever the guys who wear the expensive suits dictate, the cars have to speak for themselves, no damn excuses..
04-27-2012, 10:30 AM
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They clearly state "production", i.e. new car with warranty and emmissions certified. That does not include top fuel dragsters or kit Cobras...
So if you're certain it's a crock of ****, please list the mills that beat it.. And let's say that "production" has to AT LEAST mean 200 or more cars built per-year... Otherwise, it's just a damn tuner shop...
So if you're certain it's a crock of ****, please list the mills that beat it.. And let's say that "production" has to AT LEAST mean 200 or more cars built per-year... Otherwise, it's just a damn tuner shop...
04-27-2012, 10:52 AM
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They clearly state "production", i.e. new car with warranty and emmissions certified. That does not include top fuel dragsters or kit Cobras...
So if you're certain it's a crock of ****, please list the mills that beat it.. And let's say that "production" has to AT LEAST mean 200 or more cars built per-year... Otherwise, it's just a damn tuner shop...
So if you're certain it's a crock of ****, please list the mills that beat it.. And let's say that "production" has to AT LEAST mean 200 or more cars built per-year... Otherwise, it's just a damn tuner shop...
Ascari A10 comes DAMN close at 625hp with much less displacement, and built back in 2007
How bout the ariel atom with the new 650hp V8? It's only a few measly hp away as well
Need I continue more with the list?
04-27-2012, 10:59 AM
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Close....which in you list is MORE powerful? Stop with the ricer math of displacement...just accept the FACT that Ford did it.
Close....which in you list is MORE powerful? Stop with the ricer math of displacement...just accept the FACT that Ford did it.
04-27-2012, 11:06 AM
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theres 3 with over 100hp more
I'm happy Ford did it, all im saying is there are V8's out theres that have more power in production form.
Oh, and how about the SSC Ultimate Aero? thats 1200hp
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04-27-2012, 11:36 AM
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04-27-2012, 11:56 AM
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Oh, and get off your high horse, Ive heard of that car but have never considered that a "production" vehicle.If you must grab by the hairs the term production Ford must be doing something right. Comparing a super low numbers exotic to a basically mass produced car looks even better for Ford.
I always find it amusing how purists here get their panties in a bunch if other company, specially Ford, does something like this.
04-27-2012, 01:32 PM
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BTW, you forgot about the Saleen S7 TT, as the claim does not specify "still in production" nor "mass produced".
04-27-2012, 01:34 PM
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Which must means you are better than the rest of the guys here. Oh, and get off your high horse, Ive heard of that car but have never considered that a "production" vehicle.
If you must grab by the hairs the term production Ford must be doing something right. Comparing a super low numbers exotic to a basically mass produced car looks even better for Ford.
I always find it amusing how purists here get their panties in a bunch if other company, specially Ford, does something like this.
Oh, and get off your high horse, Ive heard of that car but have never considered that a "production" vehicle.If you must grab by the hairs the term production Ford must be doing something right. Comparing a super low numbers exotic to a basically mass produced car looks even better for Ford.
I always find it amusing how purists here get their panties in a bunch if other company, specially Ford, does something like this.
I guess you also missed the numerous post where I gave ford their props and mentioned I'm happy for them. Don't twist my words to validate your response. Yes I love GM specifically the LS family of vehicles but I'm theist person to not recongize another company when they are doing great things.
Again I like the direction ford and the new family of mustangs are going in. In the end it's great for the consumer.