Dynamometer Results & Comparisons - Top 10 RWHP Per Cubic Inch NA?
95ONE
04-29-2012, 01:20 PM
I don't see a good comparison in these threads. A bunch of randomness.
Lets break it down to groupings of cubic inch for comparison, but the list will ultimately be rated at HP/Cu.Inch so all sizes will be judged evenly. (well, as evenly as it's going to get anyway) You must post a dyno and specs. (not necessary to give secrets) but stuff that actually informs us what truly worked. So as much information as you can. Hopefully everyone can compete and learn at the same time. Auto and Manual will be rated in separate categories. I threw in some crazy set ups that I did a large search for in here to give examples that are / have been in this forum somewhere. NO BOOST ALLOWED. They can have a thread like this if they want, but the numbers get pretty silly.
TOP 10 MOST WHEEL HORSEPOWER / Cu.In. Naturally Aspirated - Manual trans.;
#1.) Patrick G - 1.46hp / Cu.In
2. Ron@Vengeance - 1.45hp / Cu.In.
3. Tony Mamo @ afr - 1.43hp / Cu.In.
4. 98blueSScamaro - 1.42hp / Cu.In.
5. LS1 Joe - 1.29hp / Cu.In.
6. camarokid94 - 1.25hp / Cu.In
7. WKMCD - 1.20hp / Cu.In.
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TOP 10 MOST WHEEL HORSEPOWER / Cu.In. Naturally Aspirated Auto Trans ;
NOTE* these will show a little lower than manual due to further Drive train loss
#1.) DMMizell - 1.72hp / Cu.In. - Glide
2. Chris1313 - 1.50hp / Cu.In
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Top 10 MOST ENGINE HORSEPOWER / Cu.In. Naturally Aspirated
NOTE* These will show higher hp/Cu.in. due to lack of parasitic loss in drive train.
#1.) LPE 403 460 cu.in. 805hp = 1.75 hp/cu.in.
2. Tireburnin........ - 416 cu.in. @ 714 hp = 1.72hp / Cu.In
3. Tony Mamo @ afr 454 cu.in. 731hp = 1.61 hp/cu.in.
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347 Cu.In. and less
Patrick G .....Manual - 347ci @ 508 rwhp = 1.46hp / Cu.In.
Ron @ vengeance.....Manual - 346ci @ 503 rwhp = 1.45hp / Cu.In.
Chris1313.....Auto - 346ci @ 520 rwhp = 1.50hp / Cu.In......Post #6
DMMizell.....Auto - 346ci @ 594 rwhp = 1.72hp / Cu.In......Post #7
98blueSScamaro.....Manual - 346ci @ 491 rwhp = 1.42hp / Cu.In......Post #3
348- 383 Cu.In.
Tony Mamo @ afr.....Manual - 383 @ 547 rwhp = 1.43hp / Cu.In......Post #11
384-427 Cu.In.
LS1 Joe.....Manual - 403 cu.in. @ 518 rwhp = 1.29hp / Cu.In.
WKMCD.....Manual - 402 cu.in. @ 482 rwhp = 1.20hp / Cu.In......Post #12
Tireburnin.....ENGINE - 416 cu.in. @ 714 hp = 1.72hp / Cu.In.......Post #26 - E85
camarokid94..Manual - 402 cu.in. @ 502 rwhp = 1.25hp / Cu.In......Post #45
427 Cu. In. and Larger
LPE 403.....engine only 460 cu.in. 805hp = 1.75 hp/cu.in......Post #9
Tony Mamo @ afr.....engine only 454 cu.in. 731hp = 1.61 hp/cu.in.
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Jenson
04-30-2012, 09:08 AM
SAM's 433LSX should be up there. That thing is insane.
98blueSScamaro
04-30-2012, 10:43 AM
chrs1313 made more then 472 fyi.
here is mine and my heads are for sale.....
346 ci ls6 block
stock pistons
stock rods
stock crank
243 heads Cartek 4X milled down to 56cc chambers
eps cam
and bolt on's
T56 trans
ford nine with 4.56 gears
hoosierQTP 28x11.5x15 tireon the dyno
made good power i am sure with a differnt cam it will make way more.think aboutselling this setup
TheLS1Lover
04-30-2012, 12:00 PM
I believe LPE 403 should be their also.
1.75 hp/ Cu. In.
460RHS - 803hp.
95ONE
04-30-2012, 12:11 PM
Excellent. I will update tonight. IF you have a link to their numbers / posts, that would be great, but otherwise I can find them if they're in LS-1 Tech.
98blueSScamaro
04-30-2012, 12:55 PM
chrs1313 info http://ls1tech.com/forums/dynamometer-results-comparisons/1405540-522rwhp-440rwtq-a4-346-update-track-results-car-vid-4-10-11-a.html
Johnnystock
04-30-2012, 01:12 PM
Theres that notch with stock cube and 594rwhp thru auto!
http://ls1tech.com/forums/dynamometer-results-comparisons/1540177-stock-cube-346-n.html
LIL SS
04-30-2012, 03:19 PM
Still not a perfect comparison.
Are the autos locked? 60e's and 80e's have different losses.
What about guys running th350/400 or glides that don't lock?
TheLS1Lover
04-30-2012, 03:27 PM
http://ls1tech.com/forums/dynamometer-results-comparisons/1481595-project-ovrkill-virginia-speed-rhs-460-803hp-698ft-lbs-n-93-octane.html
DMMizell
04-30-2012, 03:34 PM
pretty cool list!
my combo is a glide, not locked.
Thanks
Dave
Tony Mamo @ AFR
04-30-2012, 03:58 PM
Cool thread....
Obviously not "scientific" per say with so many driveline not to mention dyno variables (some are "hotter" than others).
Anyway....thought I would include my former 383 in here which was built in 05' by the way with far less of todays cutting edge technology attached (better heads, manifolds, and valvetrain components available now).
I'm sure if I had the opportunity to do something similar in 2012 I would easily be looking at 20+ more ponies with the same compression and displacement.
A link to my best results which was 547 RWHP / 500 TQ.....about 1.43 per cube thru an M6 driveline (unfortunately the link to the dyno graph is dead).
http://ls1tech.com/forums/dynamometer-results-comparisons/848805-last-hurrah-my-383-a.html
-Tony
WKMCD
04-30-2012, 04:11 PM
Extremely mildly built 427 but...
At the crank = 1.54
RW - 1.35
http://ls1tech.com/forums/generation-iv-internal-engine/662314-l92-dynojet-numbers-plus-plan-b-c-d-e-f.html
LS6427
04-30-2012, 04:48 PM
427ci C6 Z06. Heads and intake ported, cammed, exhaust, tuned
Air-Flo Technology in Pompano Beach, FL did all the work and tuning.
628 RWHP
TOP 10 MOST WHEEL HORSEPOWER / Cu.In. Naturally Aspirated - Manual trans.;
1) 1.47
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Frans96SS
04-30-2012, 05:38 PM
We made 566rwhp with an NA 408 through a tr6060 trans an a 9 inch with a big drag radial which is 1.387
Also made 490rwhp with a HCI LS1 set up. which is 1.416
95ONE
04-30-2012, 10:12 PM
SAM's 433LSX should be up there. That thing is insane.
My quick search didn't find it. Do you have a link?
here is mine
made good power i am sure with a differnt cam it will make way more.
Very nice. Added to the list
I believe LPE 403 should be their also.
1.75 hp/ Cu. In.
460RHS - 803hp.
Thank you for the link. Added to the list.
chrs1313 info http://ls1tech.com/forums/dynamometer-results-comparisons/1405540-522rwhp-440rwtq-a4-346-update-track-results-car-vid-4-10-11-a.html
Thank you for the link. The Auto hp/cu.in. section is tough to compete in or vs any other group. Highest numbers, but its logical they will be the ones trying harder for peak.
95ONE
04-30-2012, 10:52 PM
Theres that notch with stock cube and 594rwhp thru auto! http://ls1tech.com/forums/dynamometer-results-comparisons/1540177-stock-cube-346-n.html
That's DMMizell already posted. Thank you for the link though. And yeah, pretty ridiculous.
Still not a perfect comparison.
Are the autos locked? 60e's and 80e's have different losses.
What about guys running th350/400 or glides that don't lock?
I can post Locked, or Unlocked, or Glide next to all post in the Auto trans section, but if you're gonna dyno, you should dyno locked anyway right? If you're a glide, then no matter what you do, that's what is going to get to the wheels anyway. I get it, they all make a difference, but I'm not sure there's much else to do with this. All the dyno's read a little differently also, But I'm trying to arrange so much random information as organized as possible without making it silly confusing. I think breaking this down any further will really ruin the thread. That's why stating the set up in your posts and better yet, posting links to the build threads will let the readers get more from it if they want. But it will be at least a decent go to guide to start?
Cool thread....
Obviously not "scientific" per say with so many driveline not to mention dyno variables (some are "hotter" than others).
my best results which was 547 RWHP / 500 TQ.....about 1.43 per cube thru an M6 driveline.
-Tony
Nice. I didn't get to read this earlier version. I'm sure there are PLENTY that have seen that link and will back you up. So I will post the numbers without an actual working Dyno link.
And.. I guess I kinda called out to your first statement in the reply just above it. I think It (this list) is a decent "springboard" to a lot of good information as organized as possible without getting ridiculous and confusing. Then anyone can click on the individual links to get more detailed info if possible. I think I will tag each entry (at bottom under the cu.Inch divisions) with a post # reference to their specific links for quicker searching / learning.
http://ls1tech.com/forums/dynamometer-results-comparisons/1481595-project-ovrkill-virginia-speed-rhs-460-803hp-698ft-lbs-n-93-octane.html
That is LPE 403 already posted.
pretty cool list!
my combo is a glide, not locked.
Thanks
Dave
Thank You! I will start posting details like this in the Auto Section. Bad Ass set up man. I went over what I could to learn how you put it togther. Your heads are crazy large. (yeah, she said that too. )
Extremely mildly built 427 but...
RW - 1.35http://ls1tech.com/forums/generation-iv-internal-engine/662314-l92-dynojet-numbers-plus-plan-b-c-d-e-f.html
Thank you for the link.. Added to the list.
427ci C6 Z06. Heads and intake ported, cammed, exhaust, tuned. Air-Flo Technology in Pompano Beach, FL did all the work and tuning. 628 RWHP.
Awesome work. I did a search under your posts, but I didn't find anything with this build or dyno #'s. Do you have a link to your build on any forum? Here or otherwise? I will add when given
We made 566rwhp with an NA 408 through a tr6060 trans an a 9 inch with a big drag radial which is 1.387
Also made 490rwhp with a HCI LS1 set up. which is 1.416
I'm beat.. lol. Do you have a link to this? I didn't search. Apologies. :)
DMMizell
05-01-2012, 06:03 AM
Built this one,
454lsx,TH400 687rwhp
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4f2tNkpCbiQ
1.51 Hp/Cu
Owner is "LTZSS" on Ls1tech
Thanks,
Dave
1 nasty z
05-01-2012, 10:00 AM
I wont last long on this list but I am at 1.27/ cu. in. in a stock bottom end ls1 through a 4l60e with a 4k stall. 442 hp.
Here is the link with the dyno sheet and a video on the 2nd page.
http://ls1tech.com/forums/dynamometer-results-comparisons/1537503-my-mamofied-build-results.html
LSX-coupe
05-01-2012, 10:26 AM
David Lazear A.K.A. Stripes1987
should be on there.
810 rwhp and 565 rwtq
1.730 hp/cu in
468ci Lsx tall deck block
Mozez Canted valve heads
60mm Cam
Jesel .937 Keyway lifters
Manton 9/16 pushrods
Jesel Solid Body Shaft System
Titanium valves.
Psi springs
Full dry sump system
Beck Sheetmetal intake with 2 dominator TB's
rossler th400
7000 stall
4.56 gears
9" rear end
and slicks.
LSX-coupe
05-01-2012, 10:33 AM
My car made 572rwhp 518 rwtq NA its a tfs245 lsx 427. Its with a 4l60 so that makes 1.33hp/cu in.
http://ls1tech.com/forums/parts-classifieds/1535437-427-lsx-tfs245-nitrous-setup.html
sorry only thread i made on my car.
offaxis
05-01-2012, 10:35 AM
Im guessing this list is just for current setups as I know LG / Cartek / and a couple of others that dropped 500+ with 346`s many times several years ago. Im sure a quick search would fill in a bunch of those boxes if ya wanted
odarabla
05-01-2012, 11:07 AM
Im guessing this list is just for current setups as I know LG / Cartek / and a couple of others that dropped 500+ with 346`s many times several years ago. Im sure a quick search would fill in a bunch of those boxes if ya wanted
Wheel hp is hard to messure through a big stalled auto.. Besides some of the engines in question were built for peak #'s but may not run the #'s. Just saying..
95ONE
05-01-2012, 11:10 AM
Im guessing this list is just for current setups as I know LG / Cartek / and a couple of others that dropped 500+ with 346`s many times several years ago. Im sure a quick search would fill in a bunch of those boxes if ya wanted
If you have a link that still works with set up information. I can post those. Certainly applies here.
Wheel hp is hard to messure through a big stalled auto.. Besides some of the engines in question were built for peak #'s but may not run the #'s. Just saying..
Do you mean at the engine? Power at the wheels is power at the wheels. The glides just keep it in the best Rpm range at all times. (advantage over frictional loss through trans) Is the power at the wheels different at the track than at the dyno? (more load sort of thing?) I'm truly asking to learn, not being sarcastic.
Some big numbers. This is what I was looking forward to. More than I thought so soon though. :) I will correct / add some numbers on the first page tonight. I might have to go to the top 15 (instead of 10) to let some mostly street guys play too. :)
Frans96SS
05-01-2012, 01:36 PM
I'm beat.. lol. Do you have a link to this? I didn't search. Apologies. :)
No we didnt make any threads. I rarely make threads about builds any more... Dont have much time.
vetteboy2k
05-01-2012, 04:42 PM
We made:
~718rwhp(dynojet est.) with a 388ci motor thru 4.10 gears and a manual.
~530rwhp(dynojet est.) with a 346ci motor thru 4.10 gears and a manual.
Tireburnin
05-01-2012, 11:42 PM
I'm down for some dyno racing. Mine made 714 on the engine dyno at 416ci (1.71 hp/ci). The build thread and dyno sheets are linked in my signature.
I've got a bit more in this car when I can finally get some fuel in it (see 14-15:1afr) and work on the 60ft times. Running down the track seems to take far more work than the dyno!
Jenson
05-02-2012, 09:06 AM
http://www.ls1tech.com/forums/dynamometer-results-comparisons/1175779-sam-433ci-lsx-breaks-1000hp-n.html#post12198574
LIL SS
05-02-2012, 11:55 AM
Power at the wheels is power at the wheels. The glides just keep it in the best Rpm range at all times.
I would love for you to quantify this statement. Please tell us how a 2 speed trans helps to keep the motor in it's best RPM range at all times, vs a 4 speed auto or even 6 speed auto.
I also think that for the auto stuff, the trans type and locked/unlocked should be mentioned. Some guys only dyno their 4L60's/4L80's unlocked and some only dyno them locked. TH350's/400's/glides can't be locked.
PREDATOR-Z
05-02-2012, 04:14 PM
In the US, we measure power by mph at the track ;)
That Hp/liter is too foreign to us and soo :wrist:
95ONE
05-02-2012, 04:52 PM
I would love for you to quantify this statement. Please tell us how a 2 speed trans helps to keep the motor in it's best RPM range at all times, vs a 4 speed auto or even 6 speed auto.
I also think that for the auto stuff, the trans type and locked/unlocked should be mentioned. Some guys only dyno their 4L60's/4L80's unlocked and some only dyno them locked. TH350's/400's/glides can't be locked.
I apologize. I admit to not being an expert in these transmissions and don't mean to offend. I'm sure theres some heavy debate or argument for either somewhere on here that I could learn more?
I will mention it in the list if it is in their description. But, why would someone not lock their trans when on the dyno?
In the US, we measure power by mph at the track ;)
That Hp/liter is too foreign to us and soo :wrist:
:jest: Yep. I knew this comment was coming. I pretty much made an American version of HP/Liter. Difference is, in this set up, if you can make that much HP/liter with a smaller cubic inch, it should work out to the same or better with the larger. - Same architecture, bigger valves allows bigger flow, etc.
MPH at the the track measures WAY more than just an engines capabilities. E.T. of course is the major player in set up and driver. But E.T's give way to how much tire stick, how well you shift if in a manual, etc. The purpose here is to keep it as engine only as possible. Which is also impossible because of friction losses in the transmissions and what accessories are attached, and of what style, and the endless combinations in between. BUT. You have to start somewhere.
I made 573/530rw SAE at 5 on a DJ out of a DD 416 in my C5 Z. The stat's, graphs, and track vids are on here if you search my name.
LS6427
05-02-2012, 06:28 PM
Awesome work. I did a search under your posts, but I didn't find anything with this build or dyno #'s. Do you have a link to your build on any forum? Here or otherwise? I will add when given
Not my car. One of about a dozen aggressive C6 Z06's around here from a local shop. If I ever see him at a gathering I'll ask for a dyno sheet or have him post up about it.
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LPE 403
05-02-2012, 08:11 PM
Holy dick out thread :jest:
zraffz
05-02-2012, 08:16 PM
Unfair comparisons. It's impossible to factor in the differences between transmissions, rears, rotating assembly weight and other rotating mass.
LIL SS
05-02-2012, 11:50 PM
I will mention it in the list if it is in their description. But, why would someone not lock their trans when on the dyno? .
Some fear that the converter can't hold the power under lock-up.
Others feel that numbers locked are inflated as most people don't lock the verter but the top of third. In other words, you are not using all the power.
My little 347ci motor I built made 449rwhp through an 80e locked up. No doubt in my mind it would have shown more power through a 60e locked.
My current 418ci motor made 521rwhp through the same 80e locked up.
Both were on running 91 octane.
chrs1313
05-04-2012, 10:08 AM
http://forum.lsxtv.com/six-speeds-inc-record-breaking-lsx-241.html
925 (engine)/403 2.3hp/ci!!!
lemons12
05-04-2012, 10:23 AM
LOL at the *notes.... Then the autos fucking dominate.
There was a black camaro 346 (similar to what DMmizzel has) auto that put down like 44X? or so. No idea where to find it now.
Bill00Formula
05-04-2012, 05:23 PM
Slickvert posted:
FMS built me a 441 NA motor
Allan did an awesome job!
Pictures on the dyno and charts can be found here; http://www.futralmotorsports.com/images/bobdyno/
LS2 Block, with Darton Big Bore 4.185 Sleeves by RED
Callies 4” Crank
Manley Rods
ET Canted Valve Heads
Custom 14.2cr Diamond Pistons
FMS Solid Roller Cam
Jesel Rockers 1.85/1.80 rockers
Beck Sheet Metal Intake with 115mm TB
FMS Tri Y Headers 2"-2 1\8" stepped headers w\merge collectors
Moroso wet sump oil pan\Melling oil pump setup
Moroso Vacuum Pump
FMS/Bob
TQ HP
5000
5100 571 554
5200 572 566
5300 574 579
5400 584 600
5500 596 624
5600 604 644
5700 612 664
5800 626 662
5900 634 712
6000 646 738
6100 649 753
6200 649 766
6300 645 773
6400 641 782
6500 637 789
6600 634 796
6700 632 805
6800 633 820
6900 629 827
7000 628 837
7100 628 849
7200 629 863
7300 624 867
7400 622 877
7500 612 874
7600 607 878
7700 599 878
7800 595 884
7900 586 881
8000 576 877
95ONE
05-04-2012, 07:16 PM
No we didnt make any threads. I rarely make threads about builds any more... Dont have much time.
We made:
~718rwhp(dynojet est.) with a 388ci motor thru 4.10 gears and a manual.
~530rwhp(dynojet est.) with a 346ci motor thru 4.10 gears and a manual.
Please post a dyno sheet and a link to the build. I will post.
LOL at the *notes.... Then the autos fucking dominate.
There was a black camaro 346 (similar to what DMmizzel has) auto that put down like 44X? or so. No idea where to find it now.
Uh Huh.. The guys with the autos are making more total power at the engine. The reason there are so many autos that are kicking ass is that is where full on drag race motors reside. Put a standard on those engines that can handle that power and watch the power numbers grow larger than what the auto numbers are showing. That was the nature of the *note. - on the flip side, some might not look so sweet at the very low end of the revs, but there is no need for power down there with the drag racing dedicated autos.
None the less. You can still learn much. If you see a big power motor that STARTS it's dyno @6K rpm and goes to 9500, there is no need to compare your weekend warrior six speed to it. Trust me, you're most likely not going to pull up next to it at a stop light. (it happens though)
Some fear that the converter can't hold the power under lock-up.
then... unlocked is all they have to show and that's all that can be told. The only "fair" answer I have for them is that I will post locked or unlocked if it is mentioned.
Others feel that numbers locked are inflated as most people don't lock the verter but the top of third. In other words, you are not using all the power.
I'm not sure what you're trying to say here. But in general I think I know what you are saying. Thank you for the reply.
95ONE
05-04-2012, 07:38 PM
http://www.ls1tech.com/forums/dynamometer-results-comparisons/1175779-sam-433ci-lsx-breaks-1000hp-n.html#post12198574
I guess I could put that up. Good to know whats out there. It's funny how high the rpms are when the dyno STARTS. Does any one individual own it?
http://forum.lsxtv.com/six-speeds-inc-record-breaking-lsx-241.html
925 (engine)/403 2.3hp/ci!!!
Slickvert posted:
FMS built me a 441 NA motor
Allan did an awesome job!
Pictures on the dyno and charts can be found here; http://www.futralmotorsports.com/images/bobdyno/
Here are two like the first one. Now that I'm reading these, I'm not sure this is really what I had in mind for this list. I'll think it over. Maybe hear some opinions? Full Vendor builds? I think they deserve their own lists. This list is more for a private party sort of thing.
I made 573/530rw SAE at 5 on a DJ out of a DD 416 in my C5 Z. The stat's, graphs, and track vids are on here if you search my name.
I can do the search, but if everyone said,"just search my name" I wouldn't. I just did a search for you and the damn search froze. Not kidding. tried 3xs. Please post a link and I will post.
Unfair comparisons. It's impossible to factor in the differences between transmissions, rears, rotating assembly weight and other rotating mass.
I am trying to cover this statement. You're about the 3rd to say it so far. - he who only read the first few posts and then posted the above..... Please read the other posts and you will find a few others already covered this and my reply.
There will never be a perfect comparison. Please just make the best of it.
jimbob
05-04-2012, 08:24 PM
427 makes 607 rwhp. 1.42 hp per cube "4L80e transmission." I have a post around here some where. You tube dyno videos also. It started out with only 543 rwhp. Had the heads angle milled to 13.5 to 1 comp, fixed the Fast LS7 port miss-match and reported the manifold correctly by LS2 Portworks. Changed to a flowmaster merge vice ARH merge, and added a 4 inch cutout vice 3 inch. That got me the 607. I have to redyno now that I have added a vacuum pump and higher flowing cat converters...
Single plain would probalby pick up 40 rwhp with the heads I have and kick up to 1.5 hp per cube... Still that's a mello combo compared to the biggg boys on here.....
You mentioned more loss with a locked auto.... That's no kidding I lost 20 rwhp going from a manual t56 to a 4l60 with a locked converter. I was only making 400 rwhp at the time with my LT1 396 combo. Brain Tolley lost 40 rwhp (I believe) after he converted to auto (4l60e now at locked 599 rwhp...)
None of this really means poop without track ET/Mile an hour to back it up. My old 401 LT1 made 452 locked and ran 11.3's 3700lb race weight, at pinks. I'm sure with more than 150 more rwhp, low 10's should not be a problem..
jimbob
camarokid94
05-04-2012, 10:45 PM
:mullet: well back in........ shit i cannot remember 05-06? i built my 402 made 502 at the wheels M6 3.89 9in
lemons12
05-05-2012, 03:19 AM
95one, I understand why.... I just found it a bit amusing is all. Just caught my attention. :cheers:
95ONE
05-05-2012, 08:17 PM
427 makes 607 rwhp. 1.42 hp per cube "4L80e transmission." ... That got me the 607.
I have to redyno now that I have added a vacuum pump and higher flowing cat converters...
You mentioned more loss with a locked auto.... That's no kidding I lost 20 rwhp going from a manual t56 to a 4l60 with a locked converter. I was only making 400 rwhp at the time with my LT1 396 combo. Brain Tolley lost 40 rwhp (I believe) after he converted to auto (4l60e now at locked 599 rwhp...)
jimbob
Now that's a dyno difference that would be great to see. Before and after an aftermarket vacuum pump. Whether it's a lot or a little, it would be cool to know.
Could you post a link to the build and Dyno?
:mullet: well back in........ shit i cannot remember 05-06? i built my 402 made 502 at the wheels M6 3.89 9in
link to dyno and build
95one, I understand why.... I just found it a bit amusing is all. Just caught my attention. :cheers:
Cool. :cool:
camarokid94
05-06-2012, 09:49 AM
done
http://ls1tech.com/forums/dynamometer-results-comparisons/695055-402-afr205-244-248-dyno-sheet.html
and done
http://ls1tech.com/forums/dynamometer-results-comparisons/689746-finally-gonna-get-my-402-dynoed-tuned.html
and done done
http://ls1tech.com/forums/dynamometer-results-comparisons/690275-402-afr-205-results.html
3pedals
05-06-2012, 04:18 PM
N/A 6.0L, worked L92 heads, worked VicJr and a big carb
648.4hp @ 7500 1.78hp/ci
526.8tq @ 5400
Land and Sea engine dyno
This combo has not been run at the track yet, soon.......
EDIT-, added Build detail post link: http://ls1tech.com/forums/carbureted-lsx-forum/1514719-just-home-engine-dyno.html
and track results - 10.91 @130 @ 3425lbs race weight (may 20 2012)
http://i971.photobucket.com/albums/ae191/3pedals/SCN_0001-1.jpg
pharmd
05-07-2012, 09:01 PM
456rwhp/414rwtq stock 346 LS1, AI 218 cc heads, comp 231/239 112 cam, Fast 102, TB, ARH 1 7/8" headers, no cats, EWP, Ram Air, Bluecat Tune
456.23/346.7=1.316 rwhp/ci.
Graph HERE (http://www.advancedinduction.com/LSX/AiLSx218ccGM706Head.php)
LSX-coupe
05-08-2012, 12:09 PM
What about updating the first post
chrs1313
05-08-2012, 12:40 PM
N/A 6.0L, worked L92 heads, worked VicJr and a big carb
648.4hp @ 7500 1.78hp/ci
526.8tq @ 5400
Land and Sea engine dyno
This combo has not been run at the track yet, soon.......
http://i971.photobucket.com/albums/ae191/3pedals/SCN_0001-1.jpg
sexy would like to hear more about this combo:judge:
BADD SS
05-13-2012, 04:26 PM
540 rwhp, 366 ci LS2 block 6 speed, through a 9" with 4.56's/28" slicks. So thats 1.48 rounded up...
http://ls1tech.com/forums/dynamometer-results-comparisons/1009634-more-new-416-dyno-numbers-573-530rw-n.html
Here you go.
barnac0
05-16-2012, 11:07 AM
http://ls1tech.com/forums/dynamometer-results-comparisons/1436636-raptr-tea-215s-now-fast-102-graph-posted.html
Thats my build info.
485 rwhp/ 409 tq
DONAIMIAN
05-16-2012, 11:47 AM
Can't wait to get the tuning done on mine. Should be in the top three 347 M6 list.
Most of the cars are very powerfull
tmartin01Z28
05-17-2012, 03:16 PM
01 Z28 afr210v2 heads ported fast 102, jph custom ground cam, built 4l60e with 3200 yank stall and full bolt ons, 10.87:1 compression. I made 459RWHP and 410 rwtq. Dyno shee can be found in my galley. 1.33 hp/cu.in.
frank baba
05-19-2012, 07:46 AM
http://ls1tech.com/forums/dynamometer-results-comparisons/1481595-project-ovrkill-virginia-speed-rhs-460-803hp-698ft-lbs-n-93-octane.html
fraud dyno sheets do not count
SouthTexasBully
05-21-2012, 01:02 AM
LS2 364ci = 513 rwhp n/a..
that would be 1.40 rwhp per cubic inch..
H/C/I c6 ls2 m6...
tunedbytad
05-22-2012, 01:29 PM
96' Impala LT1 stock stroke .045 over
11.8:1 CR Hyd Roller passes CA emmisions
edelbrock shorty smog legal headers
Factory Z28 heads and manifold ported
thru A4 4L60E Edge converter unlocked
431RWHP SAE Dynapack backed up on Dynojet 488
431 / 357 = 1.207 HPpCube
http://a2.ec-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/14/f88ea9ebc878aea05e6897af7ea2c07d/l.jpg
3pedals
05-22-2012, 01:48 PM
EDIT: track results may 20 2012: traction limited 10.91@130 @ 3425lbs
N/A 6.0L, worked L92 heads, worked VicJr and a big carb
648.4hp @ 7500 1.78hp/ci
526.8tq @ 5400
Land and Sea engine dyno
This combo has not been run at the track yet, soon.......
http://i971.photobucket.com/albums/ae191/3pedals/SCN_0001-1.jpg
3pedals
05-22-2012, 10:48 PM
sexy would like to hear more about this combo:judge:
I updated my post with link to build details
Barrett
jegten
05-24-2012, 05:34 PM
ls3, 418, 547/508 w, 1.31/ci rounded.
RENE'S RAGE
05-27-2012, 10:18 AM
Hp at the rear wheel is what you want and lower et's.
But there are too many variables for rwhp, (trans, stalls, rearends, ect.)
I think the best way to measure what a engine makes is on a engine dyno.
Just my .02 cents.
miami993c297
05-27-2012, 10:36 AM
418 CiD NA Pump gas & Hydraulic real grocery gather, smooth as silk, through 90mm FAST and the whole requirements...
664 FWHP, click on the image for video:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v481/miami993c297/th_christainls.jpg (http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v481/miami993c297/?action=view¤t=christainls.mp4)
Christian
sick02ss
05-27-2012, 10:44 AM
1.23 408 stroker 504rwhp 605 fwhp
scphilli
05-31-2012, 02:17 PM
1.32 on pump gas with manual.
6.0monsta
06-07-2012, 07:40 PM
447ci @ 747 flywheel. Built by Shawn at Virginia Speed.
LPE 403
06-07-2012, 07:45 PM
447ci @ 747 flywheel. Built by Shawn at Virginia Speed.
Got her runnin huh? :cheers:
98blueSScamaro
06-07-2012, 10:15 PM
418 CiD NA Pump gas & Hydraulic real grocery gather, smooth as silk, through 90mm FAST and the whole requirements...
664 FWHP, click on the image for video:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v481/miami993c297/th_christainls.jpg (http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v481/miami993c297/?action=view¤t=christainls.mp4)
Christian
is this with your old heads reworked???
miami993c297
06-08-2012, 04:57 AM
is this with your old heads reworked???
Yes Sir,
Original ETP 215 reworked to 244cc+
Christian
6.0monsta
06-08-2012, 06:37 AM
Got her runnin huh? :cheers:
Waiting on the fuel system and drive shaft to show up. Once those are in the car i can tune it and finally see what it puts down.
98blueSScamaro
06-10-2012, 11:10 AM
Yes Sir,
Original ETP 215 reworked to 244cc+
Christian
Thats what i like to see. i just picked up a set for my SBE with the idea of opening them up for the next build after that. do you have a build thread on the new setup
RENE'S RAGE
06-17-2012, 04:31 PM
Got her runnin huh? :cheers:
What about yours Brent?
firefighter813x
06-18-2012, 01:03 AM
427 with 639hp @ engine=1.49
N2OBaby
06-18-2012, 03:09 PM
I love this thread.
LPE 403
06-18-2012, 04:02 PM
What about yours Brent?
Not too much plug'n'play stuff on this turd. Add in time to make things look right, it equals longer than planned. Hope to hear some noise late July. :secret2:
98blueSScamaro
06-18-2012, 05:21 PM
427 with 639hp @ engine=1.49
Holly Cubes batman Hahaha good to see it is done and what a monster.
firefighter813x
06-19-2012, 04:29 AM
Holly Cubes batman Hahaha good to see it is done and what a monster.
Yup, all done. When I get home from Iraq I get to install it ;)
The cam chosen by the builder will be great for a DD but is small for a 427 by ls1tech standards. hahahaha. It's the off the shelf comp LSL cam 239/247 which is pretty average for a lot of LS1/2/6 engines. Depending on how it drives I may throw something bigger in there... who knows. lol
Next time I'll use a different block and go for more cubes. Having a 427 in a Corvette just sounds right.
N2OBaby
06-19-2012, 10:06 AM
Having a 427 in a Corvette just sounds right.
A 427 in a Vette or a Camaro just feels & sounds right.
This thread rocks PERIOD.
jbhotrod
06-19-2012, 03:42 PM
What about these dudes? They got the fastest N/A LSx in the world so it must be near the top of this list?? With a 173mph trap at 440ci, Id guess atleast 1000+ hp... Anybody know any more details on the engine?
http://www.hutterperformance.com/Project/4/2005-GTO-Drag-Car.aspx
98blueSScamaro
06-19-2012, 04:59 PM
Yup, all done. When I get home from Iraq I get to install it ;)
The cam chosen by the builder will be great for a DD but is small for a 427 by ls1tech standards. hahahaha. It's the off the shelf comp LSL cam 239/247 which is pretty average for a lot of LS1/2/6 engines. Depending on how it drives I may throw something bigger in there... who knows. lol
Next time I'll use a different block and go for more cubes. Having a 427 in a Corvette just sounds right.
Haha my new cam is a 239/624 247/624 Lsl
firefighter813x
06-20-2012, 02:30 AM
Haha my new cam is a 239/624 247/624 Lsl
Oh... gotcha. Pretty funny since mine is 81 cubes larger and we have the same cam. I'll still win... NOT! :)
firefighter813x
06-20-2012, 02:31 AM
I kind of want to put the 427 in a 2nd gen Fbody and sell the 06 'Vette.
N2OBaby
06-20-2012, 05:48 PM
Any street guys with big RWHP #'s?
miami993c297
06-20-2012, 07:04 PM
Any street guys with big RWHP #'s?
I call my car a street car...with anyway HP enough to break my 335 rear tires loose driving 130 mph in fourth gear (click on the image):
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v481/miami993c297/Ed%20Curtis%20Zo6%20engine/th_SDC14066.jpg (http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v481/miami993c297/Ed%20Curtis%20Zo6%20engine/?action=view¤t=SDC14066.mp4)
Christian
3pedals
06-20-2012, 07:06 PM
when is the Op going to clean up the data and update the lists?
ONEBADWS6
06-21-2012, 09:43 PM
http://ls1tech.com/forums/dynamometer-results-comparisons/1457769-new-402-th400-numbers.html
SStressin
06-21-2012, 11:15 PM
once i get my max effort 383 dynoed il post up my results on here!
WKMCD
06-22-2012, 06:43 AM
Any street guys with big RWHP #'s?
My little C5 vert is a grocery getter. 577RW out of the very mild 427.
I really wish the OP would get my 427 numbers right at 1.35HP/CI
http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g93/WKMCD/corvettepicphil5.jpg
http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g93/WKMCD/corvettepicphil1.jpg
LIL SS
06-22-2012, 10:55 AM
Here is my old 418 combo. This was on 91 octane gas. This combo was at 1.246 through a 4L80E
http://ls1tech.com/forums/dynamometer-results-comparisons/1339416-469rwhp-unlocked-521rwhp-locked-na-no-n20.html
I will be making pulls soon with the better heads, more compression, bigger cam, and e85.
blackonblacksls
06-22-2012, 04:39 PM
My little C5 vert is a grocery getter. 577RW out of the very mild 427.
I really wish the OP would get my 427 numbers right at 1.35HP/CI
http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g93/WKMCD/corvettepicphil5.jpg
http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g93/WKMCD/corvettepicphil1.jpg
where did you dyno that at? ever run it at the track?
WKMCD
06-22-2012, 05:10 PM
where did you dyno that at? ever run it at the track?
Dynoed at VA Speed on a not very happy DJ. These are also SAE numbers.
I took it to the track once and it wouldn't shift with the Spec 3+ even with a Tick master. I've got an RPS CC Twin Lite in it now with a Stage 4 tranny and diff but I'm not sure if I'll make it back to the track. This really is just a nasty nasty toy.
blackonblacksls
06-23-2012, 12:52 PM
Dynoed at VA Speed on a not very happy DJ. These are also SAE numbers.
I took it to the track once and it wouldn't shift with the Spec 3+ even with a Tick master. I've got an RPS CC Twin Lite in it now with a Stage 4 tranny and diff but I'm not sure if I'll make it back to the track. This really is just a nasty nasty toy.
I bet their chassis dyno is about as accurate as their engine dyno the takes 800+hp hydraulic motors at like 6k rpm.. LOL..
What it trap at the track 125?
jbhotrod
06-23-2012, 02:13 PM
Does anyone know anything about the Hutter Racing GTO LSx440? Its probably light as hell, but regardless a 173mph is up there.
miami993c297
06-23-2012, 02:47 PM
418 CiD NA Pump gas & Hydraulic real grocery gather, smooth as silk, through 90mm FAST and the whole requirements...
664 FWHP, click on the image for video:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v481/miami993c297/th_christainls.jpg (http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v481/miami993c297/?action=view¤t=christainls.mp4)
Christian
BTW, this Z06 was dynoed on a dynojet:
1.47 RWHP/CI ... for what it worth.
Christian
chrs1313
06-24-2012, 11:28 AM
BTW, this Z06 was dynoed on a dynojet:
1.47 RWHP/CI ... for what it worth.
Christian
614rwhp??
1.47*418=
(614-664)/664 = 7% drivetrain loss!!!
Confused?
This thread have some of the nation powerful car
nastychevelle
06-24-2012, 07:04 PM
Don baskins BES 440lsx should be up there as well as SAM's 433lsx. Both are over 2.4/CI
jbhotrod
06-24-2012, 11:36 PM
Don baskins BES 440lsx should be up there as well as SAM's 433lsx. Both are over 2.4/CI
Whatt??!! More info on this please. Did you type that correctly? These are N/A #s right? Thats over 1000hp N/A!
Whatt??!! More info on this please. Did you type that correctly? These are N/A #s right? Thats over 1000hp N/A!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lndmqwPty0M
miami993c297
06-25-2012, 10:43 AM
614rwhp??
1.47*418=
(614-664)/664 = 7% drivetrain loss!!!
Confused?
Unfortunately I can't help on that...as the rwhp were that high on a dynojet...and in the 547 rwhp on a Mustang.
Nonetheless, 60 mph to 130 mph is 6.82/6.83 constant with a best of 6.77sc...Daily Driver NA Pump Gas, full weight, AC.
For what it worth.
Christian.
Dynospeed
06-25-2012, 11:52 AM
Ty Tech Performance built us a rhs 461 that did 886 at the flywheel. Its built for a large shot of nitrous.
LIL SS
07-12-2012, 11:48 AM
Made 546rwhp with my 418ci motor yesterday. That is through a big stalled auto.
http://ls1tech.com/forums/dynamometer-results-comparisons/1564470-546rwhp-unlocked-na.html
DMMizell
09-26-2012, 04:52 AM
Add this one to the list.
LSX 454 on a dyno jet, TH400, 706 RWHP
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jaVfXfrzFT0&list=UUXt4BfnfhghFP2UiBe5AzoQ&index=1&feature=plcp
Thanks
I hope it is sticky thread
LS1T56FTW
09-27-2012, 08:34 PM
Not sure if I can jump on the list or not, but I made 470whp out of a 346.
That is equal to 1.358hp/cubic inch. Numbers should be even higher when I put a FAST on this thing.
EDIT: Here is the video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=78SPJCWmHZ8
wildcamaro
09-28-2012, 08:24 PM
^^^nice car with some very nice numbers....to me navy blue metallic is the best paint on a fourth gen, let alone an SS
LS1T56FTW
09-29-2012, 07:36 AM
Thanks man! I spent a while looking for an NBM/T-56 LS1 car. Ended up getting a really good deal on that car too actually!
02SOMWS6
09-30-2012, 08:46 AM
My car made 473 rwhp and 407 rwtq with stock bottom end,a set of ported and decked 241 heads from ARE ,ported FAST 90 by Tony Mamo,Kooks stepped headers,EWP, 240/246. 608/613 cam, M6 with 12 bolt and 4.30 gears and steel Denny's driveshaft.Might not be enough to make the list but I figured I would throw it out there. I think most that have made more have a stock rear or aftermarket heads or both.
gtodoug
09-30-2012, 09:06 AM
C6Z here. Made 619whp through a stock 427 short block. 1.45whp per ci.
Here is the link to the build/dyno:
http://ls1tech.com/forums/dynamometer-results-comparisons/1430350-ls7-heads-cam-dyno-final-results-619whp-532wtq.html
LS1T56FTW
10-16-2012, 06:57 PM
^ I bet that thing moves.
98blueSScamaro
10-18-2012, 09:31 AM
My car made 473 rwhp and 407 rwtq with stock bottom end,a set of ported and decked 241 heads from ARE ,ported FAST 90 by Tony Mamo,Kooks stepped headers,EWP, 240/246. 608/613 cam, M6 with 12 bolt and 4.30 gears and steel Denny's driveshaft.Might not be enough to make the list but I figured I would throw it out there. I think most that have made more have a stock rear or aftermarket heads or both.
Not true!!!!!! Ls6 heads /cam / ford nine built with 4.56 gear 3.5 moly drive shaft and 28 slick at 24 psi dynoed 49x and 42x tq at the wheels and trapped 130+mph at 3300lbs so one of my dyno sheets is posted in here.
02SOMWS6
10-20-2012, 10:42 PM
Not true!!!!!! Ls6 heads /cam / ford nine built with 4.56 gear 3.5 moly drive shaft and 28 slick at 24 psi dynoed 49x and 42x tq at the wheels and trapped 130+mph at 3300lbs so one of my dyno sheets is posted in here.
I did say most...not all ...LOL
lt1773
10-22-2012, 04:32 PM
its really interested thread :)
John B
10-23-2012, 08:17 PM
Put me at 1.55 based on 660RWHP out of my stock cube LS7 http://ls1tech.com/forums/dynamometer-results-comparisons/1595028-1988-monte-carlo-ss-ls7-stock-short-block-h-c-i-belts-out-660-rwhp-n-92-octane.html#post16836930
lt1773
10-25-2012, 12:36 PM
Put me at 1.55 based on 660RWHP out of my stock cube LS7 http://ls1tech.com/forums/dynamometer-results-comparisons/1595028-1988-monte-carlo-ss-ls7-stock-short-block-h-c-i-belts-out-660-rwhp-n-92-octane.html#post16836930
Wow very nice built man congrats !:)
John B
10-25-2012, 06:22 PM
Wow very nice built man congrats !Thanks!
dr_whigham
10-27-2012, 01:43 AM
1.306 based on 452rwhp
stock 346 with 145k miles
Ed Curtis Cam
AFR 205's
FAST 92 NOT ported
roadtrip120
12-02-2012, 02:39 PM
1.417
490.6hp 437.6tq
Stock Bottom End 29K LS1 346
PRC 2.5 Heads
G5X4 Cam
Fast 102/102
1-7/8 Headers ,4" Mufflex
T56
Factory 10 Bolt 3.42
http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o4/roadtrip120/IMG_2116.jpg