View Full Version : omfg!! head gasket IN nj


stubbs4
04-29-2012, 11:03 PM
ok so i was driving and my belt came off i didnt realize untill the engine stated to overheat
so i pulled over and turned the car off so i fixed it today to find my coolant

low and my oil look ike choclate milk!! But i dont have any white smoke coming out of exhaust nor does it smell sweet but ididnt let it run that long maybe 2-3 min if its not the Head gasket what else could it be?? the car was only running hot for less than a minute



the belt also took this with it
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ANYONE wanna point me in the right direction ? or a good shop in north jersey ? or we i can get acouple beers and have one of you nice guys come out and help a noob in distress ??!!! HELP!!!!

DropTopBird
04-29-2012, 11:19 PM
That's the EGR hose in the pic, assuming your talking about the hose going into the manifold. If you feel that you want to do the repair it yourself, here is a step by step process for a head swap. It is pretty much the same process except you put your old head back on. Hope this helps.

http://www.ls1howto.com/index.php?article=3

stubbs4
04-29-2012, 11:20 PM
That's the EGR hose in the pic, assuming your talking about the hose going into the manifold. If you feel that you want to do the repair it yourself, here is a step by step process for a head swap. It is pretty much the same process except you put your old head back on. Hope this helps.

http://www.ls1howto.com/index.php?article=3

thanks for the responce but its the wire with that red tip?

LS6427
04-29-2012, 11:25 PM
Maybe you just blew some coolant into the over-flow tank..........maybe you didn't blow the gasket.

My temp needle has been totally buried into the red twice and nothing happened at all. These aluminum engines can easily handle 270 degrees.

Check the over-flow tank.

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stubbs4
04-29-2012, 11:28 PM
Maybe you just blew some coolant into the over-flow tank..........maybe you didn't blow the gasket.

My temp needle has been totally buried into the red twice and nothing happened at all. These aluminum engines can easily handle 270 degrees.

Check the over-flow tank.

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there is power steering fluid in the over flow just got rid of power steering cooler so i cant tell But I also found a hose that was leaking coolant

LS6427
04-30-2012, 12:16 AM
But I also found a hose that was leaking coolant

Well, there's the leak......right?

PS fluid huh.......you need to flush your cooling system like you've never flushed it before to get it all out of the block.

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DropTopBird
04-30-2012, 12:40 AM
The cable with the red tip is the cruise control cable. Did it take the entire bracket with it or just the connector that keeps the cable on the blade? If the connector is not broken, it just pops on and off the little stub on the blade.

The oil being milky is not good, neither is PS fluid in your coolant. Have you changed either since this happened? I would say change both fluids, put the belt back on, and drive it for ~100 miles or so. Check them both and see what they look like. If you blew the gasket you'll be able to tell for sure whats contaminating what.

stubbs4
04-30-2012, 12:49 AM
[QUOTE=DropTopBird;16255413]The cable with the red tip is the cruise control cable. Did it take the entire bracket with it or just the connector that keeps the cable on the blade? If the connector is not broken, it just pops on and off the little stub on the blade.

The oil being milky is not good, neither is PS fluid in your coolant. Have you changed either since this happened? I would say change both fluids, put the belt back on, and drive it for ~100 miles or so. Check them both and see what they look like. If you blew the gasket you'll be able to tell for sure whats contaminating what.[/QU

ok guys i got the ps fulid chaged i just need to flush the rad and change the oil!

stubbs4
04-30-2012, 09:30 AM
Well, there's the leak......right?

PS fluid huh.......you need to flush your cooling system like you've never flushed it before to get it all out of the block.

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sorry to be a pain but the gauge inside the car is not working for the temp with the thermostat still open?

LS6427
04-30-2012, 12:29 PM
sorry to be a pain but the gauge inside the car is not working for the temp with the thermostat still open?

t-stat is mechanical.....operates 100% from the temperature of the coolant thats touching it. It has nothing to do with any other system on the engine or electrical part. It always works regardless of other failed parts.

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Here's my flush write-up:

Best/easiest way to flush and get every drop of old coolant out.

****My power steering fluid leaked into my block, so it was bad, but this flush process works for normal maintenance flushes too. You might just want to skip the degreaser stages.****
-Cold engine.
-Remove radiator fill cap.
-Remove the t-stat from the housing. ((Buy a new t-stat housing gasket, they're like $3.00)) Leave the housing attached to the rubber radiator hose, just remove the 2 housing bolts and pull it away from the water pump to get to the t-stat. (2-3 minute job). ***The t-stat itself can be removed from the so-called one piece t-stats just like we can remove the t-stat from the newer two-piece t-stats. And the housings will bolt right back to the water pump.***
-Put t-stat housing back on. (1 minute) Just put one bolt in, no need to put them both in, there’s no pressure in the system during the flush.
-Take the entire radiator drain valve (petcock) "off" and let it drain, don't just open the valve itself. It'll drain faster with it off and that’s what you want. ((Buy a new petcock valve before starting this flush process, sometimes they break when you remove them all the way just because they're cheap plastic and they get briddle over time, they're like $2.00))
-Take a hose and stick it in the radiator fill cap, running medium to high.
-Start the engine when the radiator looks like its full again.
-Turn heat on full blast
-Let it run for about 15-20 minutes or until the water is running out the drain CLEAR.
-((If you want to, you can wait till it runs clear, "close" the drain valve, add some degreaser (I use ½ gallon of Formula 88 to clean mine) and let it run for 15 minutes, then let it sit for 15 minutes, then run it for 5 minutes, then drain it all again. Then open the drain and put the hose in for about 5 more minutes and run it all out till its CLEAR. The degreaser will help break up the crap thats stuck DEEP in the BLOCK that sits and swirls and doesn't like to come out.)) ***NO…degreaser will not hurt anything. Just make sure its ok for aluminum.***
-When it runs clear your entire system is clean.
-Remove the overflow reservoir from the car and clean it out real good. (I had to use gasoline to clean mine out because the sludge and grime was so thick inside. The gas broke it all down and then it flushed right out. I filled it about 1/3 up with gasoline and shook the hell out of it real vigorously, the black stuff kept coming out. I did that like 4 separate times with gasoline till no more chunks of black crap came out. Make sure the lines that go to the reservoir are also cleaned out. Or just buy a new piece of 3/8” heater hose and replace that line, 3 feet will do, then cut to fit. My sludge came from my power steering fluid leaking into my coolant system.)
-Put the t-stat back in.
-Put the overflow reservoir back in.
-Put the drain valve back in. Use the new one, what the hell.
-Put half a jug of Dexcool in the radiator. (Or if you live in very cold places, 1 to 1 ½ jugs of Dexcool)
-Fill the rest with water.
***You do not need to use distilled water, clean hose water is just fine, just make sure your city water is clean and not total crap quality.

**Bleeding the system of air:
Take the radiator cap off when its COLD, top it off, start it up and let it idle, and let it warm up till the t-stat opens. I rapidly squeeze the upper and lower radiator hose like 20 times each while its warming up to help move any air bubbles through the system and by the t-stat on the engine side. When the t-stat opens you’ll see the level drop as you squeeze the hoses, its sucking the coolant through the system. You will also see the coolant start to flow in the radiator fill neck, once it starts to flow the level should drop down a lot, IMMEDIATELY top it off with coolant/water. Then the flow will stop when the t-stat closes. Wait one more time for the t-stat to open again and start to flow, if it drops down again top it off again. Do it a 3rd time if you want to make sure. When the level does NOT drop down when the t-stat opens and coolant is flowing....you're system is free of air bubbles. I always squeeze the upper hose during the whole process to keep any air bubbles moving through. Always works like a charm. Just keep checking your temp gauge until the t-stat opens for the first time to make sure it’s not sitting there overheating from a trapped bubble. May take 10-15 minutes for the t-stat to open the first time.
If you do start to get hot while sitting there and the t-stat will not open…..you have a good sized air bubble on the engine side of the t-stat. Shut the engine off and rapidly squeeze the upper and lower radiator hoses again. Then start the engine again and see if the t-stat will open. Sometimes you just have to work those hoses to move the air through. Even after it seems topped off after a couple cycles…check it the next time you have a cold engine…top off if needed.


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stubbs4
05-01-2012, 02:38 AM
The cable with the red tip is the cruise control cable. Did it take the entire bracket with it or just the connector that keeps the cable on the blade? If the connector is not broken, it just pops on and off the little stub on the blade.

The oil being milky is not good, neither is PS fluid in your coolant. Have you changed either since this happened? I would say change both fluids, put the belt back on, and drive it for ~100 miles or so. Check them both and see what they look like. If you blew the gasket you'll be able to tell for sure whats contaminating what.

it just poped off the blade thanks i am going to try that today FML..

t-stat is mechanical.....operates 100% from the temperature of the coolant thats touching it. It has nothing to do with any other system on the engine or electrical part. It always works regardless of other failed parts.


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wow thanks for all the info im going to do this today after i get home from work i will let you guys know who it turns out!!

GMtechmatt
05-02-2012, 07:41 PM
did u pressure test the system and check for external engine leaks and then internal?

stubbs4
06-02-2012, 11:02 AM
did u pressure test the system and check for external engine leaks and then internal?

thanks guys for all in input i had a shop look at the engine and they said everything is normal and my oil looks normal its been that way for about 2 weeks !!! LS6427 if i ever come to FL i owe you some drinks or whatever!